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| 06:47.30 | FatPhil | what kind of fucknut uses grep -x "^...[elided]...$"? |
| 06:47.41 | FatPhil | what bit about ^ and $ wasn't clear? |
| 06:48.17 | FatPhil | right, let's flash this fscker, nothing of worth on it, clearly... |
| 06:48.48 | freemangordon | FatPhil: yep, just flash PR1.3 and eMMC |
| 06:49.07 | FatPhil | maybe I should do it when I'm sober |
| 06:49.10 | FatPhil | nahhhhhhhhhhh |
| 06:49.49 | freemangordon | hmm, isn't it too early in the morning to be drunk? |
| 06:50.09 | FatPhil | I've got the apt sources lists, and the dpkg -l, so I should be able to find any package that was on here in the past that still exists |
| 06:51.02 | FatPhil | "unfortunately", last night's tasting session consisted entirely of about 9% beers, so I still have a low density of blood in my alcohol stream |
| 06:51.17 | freemangordon | oh, I see :) |
| 06:53.02 | FatPhil | so, a 13-2 EMMC image, and either a 36-2 or 38-1 root image |
| 06:53.53 | freemangordon | both roots will do it, 38-1 has some sertificates blacklisted, but this is in cssu too |
| 06:54.20 | freemangordon | FatPhil: BTW if you're going to jump on cssu-testing, you'd better jump on cssu-thumb |
| 06:54.36 | freemangordon | same packages, but way faster |
| 06:55.43 | FatPhil | this device is for being on the bleeding edge |
| 06:56.01 | freemangordon | FatPhil: then cssu-thumb is what you need |
| 06:56.35 | freemangordon | ~cssu-thumb |
| 06:56.36 | infobot | somebody said cssu-thumb was <DocScrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597 |
| 06:56.44 | FatPhil | nope, a whole pint of pineapple and grapefruit juice is what I need |
| 06:58.08 | FatPhil | haha, man, I feel so dumb, I've not used this flasher in about 2 years |
| 06:58.09 | freemangordon | try some yougurt, mixed with water and a bit of salt, this is what I use usually |
| 06:58.57 | freemangordon | unfortunately google translates the above mixture as "kefir" which for sure is not true :D |
| 06:59.05 | FatPhil | hmmm, salty lassi |
| 06:59.32 | jon_y | is there a way to lock only the hildon-desktop orientation? |
| 06:59.40 | freemangordon | yes |
| 06:59.44 | jon_y | I was doing it with gconftool in earlier versions |
| 06:59.53 | freemangordon | the same in newer |
| 06:59.53 | jon_y | but now the option seems to be ignored |
| 07:00.15 | freemangordon | ~cssu |
| 07:00.15 | infobot | methinks cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 07:01.04 | freemangordon | jon_y: gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock -t bool true |
| 07:02.47 | jon_y | infobot: desktop-lock is gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock -t bool true |
| 07:02.47 | infobot | okay, jon_y |
| 07:03.06 | jon_y | freemangordon: strange, I set it through the gui gconf editor |
| 07:03.10 | jon_y | it didn't work there |
| 07:03.28 | jon_y | ah wait, I spoke too soon |
| 07:03.34 | freemangordon | jon_y: then check your gonf editor :) |
| 07:03.49 | jon_y | no, still going into potrait |
| 07:03.50 | freemangordon | jon_y: this locks only desktop, not tasknav or app menu |
| 07:04.05 | jon_y | yeah, I want to lock desktop only |
| 07:04.17 | freemangordon | weird |
| 07:04.48 | jon_y | is it maybe because of turbo speed hack? |
| 07:05.02 | freemangordon | no, the same happens here |
| 07:05.25 | jon_y | ok, yours is not locking either? |
| 07:05.34 | freemangordon | yep |
| 07:05.35 | freemangordon | please file a bug |
| 07:05.46 | jon_y | how do I file bug? |
| 07:06.45 | jon_y | ok http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs |
| 07:06.50 | FatPhil | is the website rather flakey? |
| 07:06.52 | freemangordon | https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Maemo%205%20Community%20SSU |
| 07:07.45 | freemangordon | FatPhil: BMO works just fine |
| 07:08.35 | freemangordon | jon_y: you need to register to enter a bug ofc |
| 07:08.41 | FatPhil | wiki wasn't |
| 07:08.45 | jon_y | ok |
| 07:08.54 | freemangordon | wiki is ok too |
| 07:08.59 | freemangordon | FatPhil: ^^^ |
| 07:09.18 | FatPhil | it's my wifi then |
| 07:17.30 | jon_y | freemangordon: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12707 |
| 07:17.32 | povbot_ | Bug 12707: /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock setting ignored |
| 07:17.39 | freemangordon | thanks |
| 07:18.11 | jon_y | btw, is there no way to get around the red boxes in turbo mode? |
| 07:18.39 | freemangordon | nfc |
| 07:18.49 | jon_y | I remember it did not have red boxes when setting it for the first time |
| 07:18.57 | jon_y | only appeared after the reboot |
| 07:19.11 | jon_y | disabling the turbo hack removes the red boxes |
| 07:19.24 | jon_y | it is back reenabling it |
| 07:19.36 | freemangordon | shit, ke-recv-extra doesn't have dbg package :( |
| 07:19.45 | jon_y | I'm fine living with the red boxes though, no biggie |
| 07:19.53 | jon_y | fast menu makes n900 feels fast |
| 07:24.02 | FatPhil | stock nokia software is shit |
| 07:24.23 | freemangordon | :D |
| 07:24.57 | FatPhil | I've just waited a minute for the browser to load the wiki page, so I could install the thumb repo |
| 07:25.23 | FatPhil | not even briefly did the piece of shit browser think that it ought to ask me where the freaking internet is |
| 07:25.28 | freemangordon | hmm, it is possible your network connection to be crappy |
| 07:25.40 | FatPhil | we interviewed someone from the browser team a few weeks ago |
| 07:25.49 | FatPhil | I forgot to punch him in the face |
| 07:26.25 | FatPhil | normally it's amazing |
| 07:28.18 | FatPhil | I live on a university campus, we have more bandwidth than I know what to do with |
| 07:28.40 | FatPhil | except today, apparently |
| 07:29.45 | FatPhil | but that doesn't stop the builtin browser from being a steaming pile |
| 07:30.07 | freemangordon | try thumb2 version, you'll be surprised |
| 07:30.32 | FatPhil | If I can get the current browser pointing in the direction of that repo, I'll do that |
| 07:31.06 | FatPhil | it really does stink |
| 07:31.34 | FatPhil | I just disconnects from the wlan, thought I'd try again, and then I did a web search - again, it didn't ask me where the internet was. |
| 07:31.57 | FatPhil | bring back the nokia bugzilla, I want to get some serious swearing out of my system |
| 07:32.35 | FatPhil | Maybe they broke it in week 38 |
| 07:33.02 | FatPhil | whilst they were rejecting real bug fixes, they were incorporating regressions instead |
| 07:33.33 | FatPhil | I think this is the first time I've used week 38's image, it's tragically fucked |
| 07:36.06 | FatPhil | my daily device is working fine (the week 36 image) |
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| 07:37.55 | FatPhil | woh, I can downgrade?!??! |
| 07:38.30 | FatPhil | I didn't check, maybe this has an R&D certificate on it |
| 07:38.57 | freemangordon | FatPhil: wait, what are you doing? |
| 07:39.07 | freemangordon | did you run cssu-installer? |
| 07:42.09 | FatPhil | haven't run anything on the PoS yet |
| 07:42.43 | FatPhil | I've just put 36-2 on it, as 38-1 simply didn't work |
| 07:43.11 | FatPhil | Only nokia could have a shutdown process that starts daemons... |
| 07:43.15 | FatPhil | (that's a lie...) |
| 07:43.43 | jon_y | freemangordon: btw, is the n900 qemu a workable solution to test kernel modifications? |
| 07:44.01 | freemangordon | jon_y: ask Pali, I've never used it |
| 07:44.06 | jon_y | ok |
| 07:44.19 | jon_y | will ping him when I see him |
| 07:45.45 | FatPhil | when you test kernel mods - do you have the ability to upload the kernel only to RAM, and run from there? or do you have to flash it? |
| 07:46.03 | freemangordon | flasher can be used to boot the kernel |
| 07:46.14 | freemangordon | but modules should be on rootfs |
| 07:47.34 | jon_y | yeah |
| 07:47.49 | FatPhil | no --initfs switch? |
| 07:47.51 | jon_y | alternatively I could just put it in /opt/boot and use uboot |
| 07:47.58 | jon_y | don't think it can |
| 07:48.39 | jon_y | also, what kind of dev environment do you guys use? |
| 07:48.48 | jon_y | at least gcc-4.7.x pls :) |
| 07:49.07 | jon_y | the linaro gcc? |
| 07:49.43 | FatPhil | I build kernels with 4.4.1 apparently |
| 07:50.07 | jon_y | uboot and linux 3.1x apparently requires 4.7 at least |
| 07:50.28 | FatPhil | anything that requires a particular compiler version is broken, IMHO |
| 07:50.42 | jon_y | no, it needs some new features |
| 07:51.25 | FatPhil | then it would be broken, see my statement 2 lines up ^^^ |
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| 07:51.52 | freemangordon | FatPhil: do you remember having problems with gio channels and newer kernels? |
| 07:52.03 | FatPhil | gpio? |
| 07:52.08 | freemangordon | gio |
| 07:52.13 | jon_y | FatPhil: you backported gcc-4.7 features? |
| 07:52.16 | freemangordon | GIOChannel |
| 07:52.41 | freemangordon | there is gio set on /proc/mounts |
| 07:52.41 | FatPhil | jon_y: what about what I've said lead you to that conclusion? |
| 07:52.58 | jon_y | it does require some new features from later versions |
| 07:53.10 | jon_y | iirc some new asm instruction |
| 07:53.27 | freemangordon | the callback is called every now and then, with GIOCondition == G_IO_IN |
| 07:53.43 | freemangordon | this looks similar o the poll() case |
| 07:53.48 | freemangordon | *to |
| 07:53.57 | jon_y | something to do with DSP instructions according to pali |
| 07:54.20 | jon_y | well, here are the binaries I found if anyone is interested https://launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain-binaries/+download |
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| 07:54.25 | freemangordon | jon_y: 4.2.1 just can't parse some of the headers |
| 07:54.29 | FatPhil | GIO gives me nothing but glib hits |
| 07:54.31 | jon_y | hi Pali |
| 07:54.34 | jon_y | freemangordon: ok |
| 07:54.37 | freemangordon | FatPhil: yeah |
| 07:54.49 | FatPhil | wtf's that to do with the kernel? |
| 07:55.01 | freemangordon | Pali: hi, hulda hits a problem similar to the poll() one |
| 07:55.06 | FatPhil | if glib can't do something, that's a glib problem |
| 07:55.17 | freemangordon | sure |
| 07:56.00 | jon_y | Pali: what dev environment do you recommend to work with if I were to do some kernel hacking |
| 07:56.03 | jon_y | ? |
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| 07:56.30 | FatPhil | chrish, 36-2's horrifically broken too, for the same reason |
| 07:56.42 | freemangordon | Pali: it does g_io_add_watch on /proc/mounts and the callback is non-stop called with GIOCondition == G_IO_IN |
| 07:56.57 | Pali | jon_y: is some env needed? I'm using crosscompiler and that is all |
| 07:57.09 | Pali | freemangordon: ok, thanks |
| 07:57.19 | jon_y | Pali: I see |
| 07:57.28 | Pali | freemangordon: glib does not support some flag? |
| 07:57.29 | jon_y | Pali: https://launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain-binaries/+download these will do fine? |
| 07:57.36 | freemangordon | Pali: the same happens for a NETLINK socket |
| 07:57.37 | freemangordon | seems like |
| 07:57.54 | Pali | jon_y: which distribution do you have? |
| 07:58.25 | Pali | freemangordon: I'm sure you *can* wait for data on netlink |
| 07:58.58 | jon_y | Pali: plain debian testing |
| 07:59.11 | Pali | freemangordon: also in my kernel branch there is already reverted sysfs patch... |
| 07:59.53 | freemangordon | Pali: the problem is that the callback is called with cond == G_IO_IN|G_IO_ERR, which hulda doesn't process. I will fix that and see what happens |
| 08:00.30 | freemangordon | because someone never think that cond is a bitfiels |
| 08:00.40 | freemangordon | *bitfield |
| 08:00.56 | Pali | ok, try to fix it |
| 08:01.28 | freemangordon | Pali: http://pastebin.com/zm0dHXeP |
| 08:01.43 | freemangordon | Pali: any clue what hulda is supposed to do? |
| 08:01.46 | Pali | jon_y: looks like debian does not have arm cross comilers in repository |
| 08:01.51 | Pali | try to install some |
| 08:01.55 | freemangordon | I will try |
| 08:01.56 | jon_y | ok |
| 08:02.05 | Pali | freemangordon: no |
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| 08:02.16 | jon_y | Pali: also, what do you recommend I use if I am to rebuild your power kernel? |
| 08:02.23 | jon_y | just cross compilers? |
| 08:02.44 | Pali | jon_y: for kernel-power, you can use scratchbox or madde too |
| 08:03.00 | FatPhil | ubuntu has xcompilers |
| 08:03.03 | jon_y | ~scratchbox |
| 08:03.03 | infobot | [scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, or hosted by maemo.org now, maintainer thedead1440 |
| 08:03.05 | Pali | but cross compiler is enough (if you do not want flasher package) |
| 08:03.26 | jon_y | I want the boot image for uboot |
| 08:03.41 | Pali | for zImage you do not needed nothing else |
| 08:04.12 | jon_y | ok, just scratchbox |
| 08:04.15 | jon_y | ~madde |
| 08:05.14 | jon_y | something like this I guess http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_toolchain_setup_%28gcc4.7.2-linaro%29 |
| 08:09.36 | FatPhil | nah, wifi just doesn't seem to work in this device :-( |
| 08:09.52 | FatPhil | gonna make installing CSSU rather hard |
| 08:11.06 | kerio | i have that problem too :c |
| 08:11.21 | kerio | usb networking is still an option |
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| 08:13.47 | FatPhil | the bizarre thing is that I'm sure it worked before I flashed it |
| 08:15.35 | FatPhil | only nokia could write software that shuts down in order to power up |
| 08:16.55 | freemangordon | Pali: netlink socket problem solved |
| 08:17.03 | Pali | ok :-) |
| 08:18.49 | freemangordon | Pali: do you have rights to create repos on gitorious (CSSU that is)? |
| 08:18.52 | jon_y | ~kp |
| 08:18.52 | infobot | methinks kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85665 |
| 08:19.14 | FatPhil | woh - I just had the blue-on-white nokia logo with the 5-dots animaation playing in front of it |
| 08:19.40 | Pali | freemangordon: no :-( |
| 08:20.06 | freemangordon | oh |
| 08:20.25 | Pali | ~kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823 |
| 08:20.25 | infobot | Pali: i already had it that way |
| 08:20.44 | Pali | ~kernel-power |
| 08:20.46 | Pali | ~kp |
| 08:20.47 | infobot | i guess kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85665 |
| 08:21.06 | Pali | infobot: no kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89823 |
| 08:21.06 | infobot | i already had it that way, Pali |
| 08:21.29 | Pali | ~kp |
| 08:21.29 | infobot | rumour has it, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85665 |
| 08:22.07 | jon_y | my debian vm hasn't been powered up for nearly a year, time to update everything |
| 08:24.09 | jon_y | yeah, looks like linaro 4.7.2 is still there |
| 08:31.14 | Pali | merlin1991: ping |
| 08:33.30 | FatPhil | ok, how to diagnose wifi issues? |
| 08:33.50 | freemangordon | dmesg/syslog? |
| 08:34.07 | FatPhil | [ 497.545776] wlan0: authenticated |
| 08:34.07 | FatPhil | [ 497.545806] wlan0: associate with AP 94:44:52:bb:52:7d |
| 08:34.07 | FatPhil | [ 497.551605] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 94:44:52:bb:52:7d (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=3) |
| 08:34.10 | FatPhil | [ 497.551635] wlan0: associated |
| 08:34.20 | FatPhil | wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:CC:77:EE:BF inet addr:192.168.2.6 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 08:34.32 | freemangordon | did you try to reboot the router? |
| 08:34.59 | FatPhil | that's in another guy's room :-( |
| 08:35.20 | freemangordon | :( |
| 08:36.26 | Pali | FatPhil: try to look in syslog, wlancond or icd2 sometimes write something... |
| 08:44.37 | freemangordon | Pali: /proc/mounts problem fixed too, need a git repo to commit |
| 08:44.40 | freemangordon | :) |
| 08:45.00 | Pali | freemangordon, create personal clone on maemo.gitorious.org |
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| 08:45.42 | FatPhil | woh, this thing doesn't have syslog! |
| 08:47.16 | FatPhil | I can ping my daily device over wifi |
| 08:48.02 | FatPhil | another flatmate's skyping, so wifi works for him |
| 08:48.33 | FatPhil | it seems to be just this browser that's failing |
| 08:48.46 | freemangordon | FatPhil: add repos by hand |
| 08:49.15 | freemangordon | deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free |
| 08:49.20 | jon_y | Pali: this patch still needed? https://privatepaste.com/4c45dacdb4 |
| 08:49.26 | freemangordon | deb http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/ fremantle free non-free |
| 08:49.43 | freemangordon | FatPhil: both of them needed |
| 08:49.50 | jon_y | seems to be some trouble with newer binutils |
| 08:49.58 | freemangordon | FatPhil: also make sure you have all the nokia repos enabled |
| 08:50.25 | Pali | jon_y: try to compile with or without that patch |
| 08:50.46 | jon_y | Pali: I made this patch some time ago |
| 08:51.01 | jon_y | I'm srestarting my kp builds |
| 08:51.10 | Pali | this patch is needed in upstream 3.x kernel |
| 08:51.19 | Pali | but no idea if for 2.6 too |
| 08:51.40 | freemangordon | Pali: another problem - if you lock the device, the leds got switched off, but digitizer is still active, any clue? |
| 08:52.08 | jon_y | Pali: it was for kp52 |
| 08:52.15 | Pali | digitizer? |
| 08:52.22 | freemangordon | touch screen works |
| 08:52.24 | jon_y | so yes, if you use newer linaro, I think |
| 08:52.41 | jon_y | it would be nice if you can accept it :) |
| 08:52.42 | Pali | freemangordon, mce problem? |
| 08:52.59 | freemangordon | seems like, just mentioning it here |
| 08:53.10 | Pali | jon_y: but old gcc on autobuilder does not know anything about that sec |
| 08:53.28 | Pali | freemangordon: we need to patch MCE... |
| 08:53.32 | jon_y | I see, ok |
| 08:53.46 | Pali | I already have tree with trying to backport harmattan version for fremantle |
| 08:53.54 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, don;t sound good |
| 08:53.58 | Pali | I think now it compiling, but it was nvere tested |
| 08:54.05 | freemangordon | doesn't even |
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| 08:55.06 | freemangordon | Pali: you found the initial fremantle tree state? |
| 08:55.17 | Pali | no, it does not exists |
| 08:55.27 | freemangordon | :( |
| 08:55.36 | Pali | what we have is diablo MCE |
| 08:55.43 | Pali | and harmattan MCE |
| 08:55.54 | Pali | and fremantle dbus files |
| 08:55.56 | freemangordon | FatPhil: do you have fremantle mce git tree on your laptop by chance :)? |
| 08:56.18 | Pali | so with above data I tried to reconstruct fremantle MCE |
| 08:56.44 | freemangordon | ok, no more hulda eating 100% CPU |
| 08:56.47 | freemangordon | Pali: I see |
| 08:59.09 | freemangordon | Pali: ke-recv will have to be fixed too :( |
| 08:59.49 | freemangordon | it does not automount uSD on backcover closed. and filemanager segfaults |
| 09:00.05 | freemangordon | hopefully we have all that |
| 09:00.14 | freemangordon | source code I mean |
| 09:04.41 | jon_y | where can I get the in progress 3.x kernel? |
| 09:04.49 | jon_y | how do I start playing with it? :) |
| 09:11.11 | FatPhil | operation failed (no updates available) |
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| 10:46.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dict hungover |
| 10:46.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dict hangover |
| 10:47.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dict 2 hangover |
| 10:48.03 | FatPhil | yay - internet! |
| 10:50.56 | FatPhil | so, off to CSSU/Thumb... |
| 10:54.24 | FatPhil | is it basically going to replace everything on the device? |
| 10:56.06 | FatPhil | where are "Nokia" and "Extras" catalogues? |
| 10:56.38 | jon_y | will 0xFFFF be ever ported to windows? |
| 10:58.15 | FatPhil | ah, "Extras" = "maemo.org" |
| 10:58.17 | jon_y | what exactly does 0xffff require anyway? |
| 10:58.31 | jon_y | ah libusb |
| 10:58.36 | jon_y | windows has libusb |
| 10:59.08 | jon_y | uh oh, ioctl |
| 10:59.18 | jon_y | probably relegated to cygwin now |
| 10:59.50 | jon_y | oh #include <linux/fs.h> |
| 10:59.55 | jon_y | forget cygwin either |
| 11:00.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | FatPhil: it's just a supplementary repo on top of cssu |
| 11:00.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | which in turn is a supplementary repo on top of the base nokia repo |
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| 11:01.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | cssu-thumb need a thumb-enabled kernel though, or device will segfault like mad |
| 11:02.11 | FatPhil | busy clicking "OK"... |
| 11:02.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu |
| 11:02.40 | infobot | methinks cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 11:02.54 | jon_y | does it make sense to enable selinux on n900? |
| 11:03.13 | jon_y | you know, because *secure* |
| 11:03.22 | FatPhil | does it make sense to enable selinux anywhere?!??! |
| 11:03.48 | jon_y | I don't know, I know the text editor isn't supposed to run external programs |
| 11:05.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~pr131 |
| 11:05.27 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/fiasco+co/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
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| 11:06.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | isn't this guy running maemo.cloud-7.de a really helpful dude? |
| 11:06.50 | FatPhil | hmmm, app manager is saying liqtm-bearer conflicts with some of the stuff |
| 11:07.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | QtM hmmmmm |
| 11:08.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | would probably kill qtm with fire on his device |
| 11:08.54 | FatPhil | saying "No"... |
| 11:10.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | what are you doing? CSSU? |
| 11:10.40 | FatPhil | am mow |
| 11:10.54 | FatPhil | s/ m/ n/ |
| 11:10.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf mow |
| 11:11.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | lag |
| 11:11.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | does a mtr from neocortex to dsl modem |
| 11:12.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | oh, there's a few -ENOCAFFEINE in syslog |
| 11:13.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're following the procedure in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU ? |
| 11:14.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | faithfully? |
| 11:14.08 | FatPhil | I think so |
| 11:14.19 | FatPhil | downloading 50.0 MB ... |
| 11:14.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | only update the CSSU system update |
| 11:14.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't do an update-all |
| 11:15.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | most of the stuff will get updated by cssu-update anyway |
| 11:15.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | update-all time for after cssu got installed |
| 11:15.37 | FatPhil | yup |
| 11:17.29 | FatPhil | Updating 'Maemo 5 Community SSU Package(thumb)' |
| 11:17.45 | FatPhil | I need some freaking breakfast |
| 11:18.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm completely lost on the correct procedure to directly upgrade to cssu-thumb |
| 11:18.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | h,, too early for breakfast here |
| 11:18.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm even |
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| 11:22.59 | FatPhil | operating system successfully updated |
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| 11:24.37 | FatPhil | where's the list of closed source packages? |
| 11:26.49 | arcean | http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages |
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| 11:57.03 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-06-14): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2; Stable(2013-01-10): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6 |
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| 18:53.09 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-06-14): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2; Stable(2013-01-10): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6 |
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| 20:18.29 | Fat_Phil | any idea why my custom xkb configuratio for shell-obsessives works in the shell, but not in this irc client? |
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| 20:24.02 | Fat_Phil | works in every app apart from this client apparently. |
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| 20:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | FatPhil: [2013-09-07 22:33:31] <-- Fat_Phil has left this server (Remote host closed the connection). |
| 20:37.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas my client doesn't show re-joins |
| 20:39.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | for your client I either need a DCC VERION request, or you disclose delibaerately what you're using ;-) |
| 20:39.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | WTF? |
| 20:39.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | why does *my* client still expand the nick, even when the user is gone? |
| 20:40.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh, no "_" |
| 20:40.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-09-07 22:40:32] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from FatPhil: irssi v0.8.12. |
| 20:40.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | so, NFC |
| 20:40.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | should be plain shell |
| 20:51.25 | FlatPhil | the client that didn't let me do {}%|`<>[] from the hw keybd was calles "communi" |
| 20:51.52 | FlatPhil | oh, not forgetting ~ |
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| 20:54.00 | FlatPhil | my g/f's put many of them on the toolbar for the x terminal, but I prefer them to be universal. hate the popup onscreen keyboard. |
| 20:55.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources FWIW |
| 20:56.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | try to find out about VI_s awesome keymapping. It's burried deeeeeep inside the bot's factoids |
| 20:57.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues vi_ |
| 20:57.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~fu |
| 20:57.33 | infobot | FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 20:58.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~dice 100d20 |
| 21:03.43 | FlatPhil | I spend most of my time in a shell, my keymapping is about as awesome as I could hope for. |
| 21:09.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | then I dunno how to help. I don't see how irssi would use a keymap different to the shell's one |
| 21:09.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe due to me never having used irssi |
| 21:11.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | please everybody involved in FPTF post or query me your full name, I'll eventually edit #2 of http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1372710&postcount=2 to list who's contributing |
| 21:15.35 | FatPhil | nope, irssi was fine, it was "communi" that was ignoring the keymap |
| 21:16.03 | sixwheeledbeast | re keymappings >> http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 21:16.51 | dos1 | DocScrutinizer05: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak, commited to FSO integration |
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| 21:53.25 | kerio | ~vi-kbd |
| 21:53.25 | infobot | vi-kbd is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping |
| 21:53.44 | kerio | and yeah, qt will still happily ignore your actual keymap |
| 21:53.48 | kerio | which is a giant pile of WTF really |
| 21:54.14 | kerio | it's what happens when a UI toolkit wants to reinvent everything |
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