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09:15.35*** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-06-14): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2; Stable(2013-01-10): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6
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11:14.10DocScrutinizer05[2013-06-28 13:04:26] <Lava_Croft> Like Macer reported last night, there seems to be some kind of problem concerning conversations
11:14.12DocScrutinizer05[2013-06-28 13:04:43] <Lava_Croft> since the latest update (i guess) it randomly closes due to some internal error
11:14.16DocScrutinizer05[2013-06-28 13:04:52] <Lava_Croft> even when theres no conversation open
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15:18.17freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: Lava_Croft: is there a bug report?
15:18.39DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: LOL, nope
15:18.50DocScrutinizer05see my monologue in #maemo
15:19.32DocScrutinizer05did CSSU even touch conversations or anything related to it?
15:20.34DocScrutinizer05and lava_croft was not willing to /join #maemo-ssu, "too lazy" :-S
15:22.03DocScrutinizer05so if nobody introduced a patch that's clearly related to conversations, I'd rather apologize for even c&p that fuzzy rant to here
15:22.34freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: there was
15:22.51freemangordonsome kind of portrait support. But it is all CSS/JS
15:23.07DocScrutinizer05oooh, "good". Then we actually might have a starting point to make some use of this "bug report"
15:23.08freemangordonso I doubt it can make conversations app crash
15:23.26freemangordonbut who knows
15:23.31freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: lemme finish reading your monologue :)
15:23.47DocScrutinizer05it's probably boring for you
15:23.53DocScrutinizer05nothing useful in it
15:27.33DocScrutinizer05rather that obscure "some internal error" would be useful to have details about it. Too bad lara_cruft is too lazy
15:29.10freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: "Internal error. Application 'conversations' closed " is here since the dawn of n900
15:29.31freemangordonand I would bet 5 on your "CSSU update writes to the fs"
15:29.51DocScrutinizer05thanks :-)
15:30.06freemangordonI really see no way for modified JS to crash that application
15:30.20DocScrutinizer05nah, but JS itself might "crash"
15:30.22freemangordonLava_Croft: could you point me to the initial report?
15:30.31freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: hardly, it is gecko
15:30.54freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: and it wouldn't crash only on couple of devices
15:30.57DocScrutinizer05lava_croft isn't here. Or did I miss sth?
15:31.14freemangordonoh, my IRC client is stupid :D
15:32.38freemangordonautocompletion seems to work cross channels
15:33.07DocScrutinizer05lol
15:33.10DocScrutinizer05cool shit
15:33.25freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59985
15:33.35freemangordonthere are a couple more threads like this
15:33.50DocScrutinizer05konversation is rather smart regarding that. It seems it actually even prefers the most recently speaking nicks
15:34.07freemangordonwhich I am too lazy to dig for
15:34.21freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I am using leafchat - some java crap on windoze
15:34.22DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I can't help much on that bug, since I never encountered it
15:34.32freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: oh, I am not asking for help
15:34.33freemangordon:)
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15:34.59freemangordonjust discussing
15:35.18DocScrutinizer05maybe that's the only thing I can contribute: I don't use IM and I don't use portrait, and I never seen conversations going down for me
15:36.23freemangordonhehe
15:36.25DocScrutinizer05some widget position/size readjustment overflow or out of bounds issue?
15:36.33freemangordonno way
15:36.58freemangordonif gecko was so fragile, we'll see microb crashing every 30 secs
15:37.02DocScrutinizer05a JS function that's only active for IM conversations?
15:37.17freemangordonJIT is one for all
15:37.24freemangordonthe engine I mean
15:37.32DocScrutinizer05:nod:
15:37.59freemangordonhowever, without a proper bug report I don;t think we can do much
15:38.19freemangordonI'll try to find the original reporter
15:38.26freemangordonand ask him to file a bug
15:38.27DocScrutinizer05I'm thinking of a function implemented in js that gets called only in a js-script snipplet that's handling IM texts
15:38.42DocScrutinizer05and that JS function might segfault or whatever
15:39.08DocScrutinizer05:nod:
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15:39.51freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: the change is related to some <div> tags positioning, honestly, I can't see how that could cause segfult, given that gecko on n900 is very robust
15:40.02freemangordonsegfault even
15:40.46freemangordonit is either corrupted conversations DB or some other fs problem
15:40.56freemangordonIMO
15:41.11DocScrutinizer05https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-06-28.log.html#t2013-06-28T00:55:03
15:41.46DocScrutinizer05:nod: again
15:42.18freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: thanks
15:43.54DocScrutinizer05maybe macer is less lazy
15:44.11freemangordonyeah, i hope so
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16:21.19Macerhi
16:21.21freemangordonhi
16:21.30Maceralrighty
16:21.32Macergive me a secon
16:21.40freemangordonMacer: what is "does not work" supposed to mean?
16:21.51freemangordondoes not work as in?
16:22.00Maceri can receive. sending doesn't seem to work
16:22.05Macerkeeps the "uploading" icon next to it
16:22.08Macernever time stamps
16:22.27freemangordonMacer: ugh
16:22.39Macerthe conversations themselves don't seem to show up properly
16:22.48Macerie: the name from the contact list is shown at first
16:22.51Macerthen disappears later
16:23.18freemangordonhmm, does the other side receive the SMS?
16:23.44freemangordonMacer: did you do some tweaks to your conversations UI?
16:23.45Maceroh. wth. it seems to have worked that time
16:23.49Macerno. never.
16:23.55freemangordonworked?
16:24.37Macerhm....
16:24.47Macerwell.. it is showing time stamps again
16:24.48Macerodd
16:25.10freemangordonreally
16:25.21Macerok wtf
16:25.22Macerlol
16:25.26Macerit was doing it all day yesterday
16:25.29Macerah well.. whatever
16:25.58freemangordonMacer: that's weird, but IMO it is related to sim<->tower, not to n900
16:26.18Maceryah. seems so. but the problems seemed related to the phone. since throwing it into the e7 worked fine
16:26.23Macerah well. sorry to have wasted your time
16:26.26Maceri'll keep testing it :)
16:26.27freemangordonnp
16:26.38freemangordonyep, please report how it goes
16:26.49Maceryeah. i'm using it now ;)
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17:31.10merlin1991freemangordon: ping
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18:06.10merlin1991hey Pali
18:06.15Palihi
18:06.24merlin1991got any free time on monday?
18:06.35Paliok
18:07.16merlin1991heh  you didn't even ask when
18:07.30merlin1991so we're trying to do a short meeting at 20utc
18:08.45Pali20utc? what about hour earlier?
18:09.30merlin1991that's what freemangordon said, but arcean can't so I'm guessing we should do it later in the week, whatabout wednesday?
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18:32.55Palimerlin1991: wednesday is ok
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21:03.40lufmerlin1991: ping
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21:15.19lufmerlin1991: I'll be on weekend house whole next week. There is very bad signal so it's possible that i'll not able to connect.
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21:42.13merlin1991luf whatabout free time in general, usually one is on vacation in such places :D
21:48.26lufmerlin1991: I hope it'll be better during working days in summer :)
21:48.57merlin1991hm actually whatabout free time you really wanna spend on irc? :D
21:49.36luf:D I don't know but I want spent more time on keepassx v2 and CSSU ...
21:50.14lufI should be on IRC during that time.
21:50.37lufI'm watching history of IRC (offline).
21:51.16lufmerlin1991: however that's just plan :(
21:52.10freemangordonluf: yay, you're alive :)
21:52.29luffreemangordon: it's nice to see you :D
21:53.18freemangordonluf: nice to see yout ooe. where you've been man, what's going on with you?
21:53.25freemangordon*too
21:54.23luffreemangordon: I don't know. Too much duties and work :( I was monitoring irc history but didn't have time to be online.
21:55.03luffreemangordon: I saw you and pali agreed that pa was my problem and commits between cssu1 and cssu4 were yours :D
21:55.20luffreemangordon: ... and nobody tested older pali's version.
21:55.41freemangordonluf: hmm? commits are mine?
21:56.07luffreemangordon: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/commits/master
21:56.35freemangordonhmm, yeah
21:56.44luf10:27  freemangordon  committed d6ed4cf  core: New LIFO style flist implementation :D
21:57.03freemangordonluf: but that's ben in -thumb for a while ;)
21:57.07freemangordon*been
21:57.22freemangordon6 months or something :)
21:57.25luffreemangordon: I see not all users has that problem.
21:57.50freemangordonluf: for sure we have to bisect that
21:58.39freemangordonluf: however, it is Friday, I am a couple of jacks ahead and I am glad to see you here :)
21:58.39lufThat's the reason I asked pali to rebuild cssu3 last week but nobody tested it yet :(
21:59.12freemangordonluf: I am very shor on time these days
21:59.17freemangordon*short
21:59.19luffreemangordon: Unfortunately I join only to answer merlin1991 that I'll be out of signal next week :D
22:00.01lufSo I wish you several more jacks and nice weekend.
22:00.19freemangordonoh, no, enough jacks for today :)
22:00.36lufSo some johnnies :D
22:00.49freemangordonluf: my point is that "I am happy you are somehow still here" :)
22:01.14freemangordonno matter you're short on time, RL strikes all of use
22:01.18freemangordon*us
22:01.40merlin1991btw freemangordon about monday, I guess you prefer wednesday earlier instead?
22:02.28freemangordonmerlin1991: I am fine for Monday and Wednesday
22:02.56merlin1991heh I prefer wednesday, so I just have to reach arcean now :)
22:02.58freemangordonas long as it is earlier than 23 local time
22:03.29merlin1991on monday we can only do that due to arcean, so wednesday it is
22:04.05freemangordonlet it be wednesday then
22:05.45merlin1991just realized his html template had no html, body or head tags
22:06.02merlin1991I blame firefox for just rendering everything even if you provide crap :D

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