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| 07:11.29 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-06-14): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2; Stable(2013-01-10): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6 |
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| 07:40.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | idont has explained that busybox-power now handles all alternatives dynamically, which aiui should result in less conflicts with e.g swapon or procps pkgs. CSSU team might want to evaluate this, and reconsider the pros and cons of including busybox-power to CSSU |
| 07:41.46 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: "idont has explained" - did I miss something? where is that? |
| 07:41.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | partially in /query |
| 07:42.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | partially on #maemo |
| 07:44.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd still opt for keeping the original busybox in rootfs and *adding* busybox-power to /opt/usr/bin and maybe bindmount it over the orginal busybox at end of system init, for various reasons |
| 07:45.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | one of those reasons: space requirements in rootfs |
| 07:46.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | another one: compatibility of initscripts, which shouldn't use any of busybox-power extended features |
| 07:46.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | this second point is arguable of course |
| 07:47.36 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: i guess rootfs space considerations shouldn't weight much when it comes to OS upgrades |
| 07:48.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd prefer a "/usr/bin/busybox swapon <extended option>" over a plain "swapon <extended option>" in any init script |
| 07:49.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | but again, that's just me |
| 07:49.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | we should discuss this, *if* we plan to eventually actually include busybox-power to CSSU |
| 07:50.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: rootfs space considerations are a major concern for every CSSU patch |
| 07:51.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | we can't assume that every user has kept 5MB reserved in / just for CSSU update purposes |
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| 07:53.17 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: it is about 200-300k |
| 07:53.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | if we could combine any such update that needs considerable amounts of /-space with major optification cleanup that frees at least same amount of /-space, then we're absolutely on the green half |
| 07:53.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 07:55.57 | freemangordon | Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1353271&postcount=1341 |
| 07:56.05 | freemangordon | that makes no sense to me :( |
| 07:56.46 | Pali | try to ask luf |
| 07:57.03 | freemangordon | Pali: why luf, iirc PA changes are yours |
| 07:58.33 | Pali | not really, my change is only increased size of memory allocation |
| 07:58.50 | Pali | and this my change does not make sense with above problem |
| 07:58.57 | Pali | luf commited more other patches |
| 07:59.06 | freemangordon | hmm, ok |
| 08:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | check packaging, paricularly optification. We seen PA fuckups before that originated from PA plugins living in /opt and thus startup of PA been butchered |
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| 09:40.38 | T_X | hi, I think one of the recent cssu updates broke voip for me. even though I have two sip accounts enabled, I can't actually select them for calling someone |
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| 10:38.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | T_X: check: |
| 10:38.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 10:38.06 | infobot | methinks jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 10:38.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | it has a few lines regarding that topic |
| 10:40.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | T_X: which app manegr did you use to do the cssu update? |
| 10:40.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | manager* |
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| 10:52.44 | T_X | DocScrutinizer05: I believe it was the standard maemo gui app manager (forgot its name) |
| 10:53.34 | T_X | hmm, was I supposed to still have the CSSU updater in the applications menu? |
| 10:53.53 | T_X | (looks like I now broke everything after clicking it again after a few months now) |
| 10:54.19 | T_X | well, not everything, but the gui at least |
| 10:55.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | cssu enabler? shouldn't break sth |
| 10:57.43 | T_X | DocScrutinizer05: these are my broken packages now: http://pastebin.com/Nebss05Z |
| 11:00.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think that's quite unusual |
| 11:00.43 | T_X | DocScrutinizer05: I'm getting the feeling that the package maemo-optify-runonce_0.10-32+0m5_all.deb is causing my n900 to reboot before completion: http://pastebin.com/etY2cGgm |
| 11:04.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo-optify-runonce should NOT get installed |
| 11:04.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno why apt suggests that to you, but at least apt has NO as default answer |
| 11:06.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | to me it seems pretty clear that your apt/dpkg db got messed up by doing sth that better wasn't done |
| 11:06.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | like removing mp-community-pr |
| 11:24.31 | Drathir | mornin... |
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| 21:52.01 | Sc0rpius | so |
| 21:52.06 | Sc0rpius | any news in CSSU-thumb 8.2? |
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