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| 08:39.48 | _rd | Started reflashing my n900 |
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| 09:19.48 | Drathir | mornin... |
| 09:25.50 | _rd | /etc/apt/sources.list.d # cat cssu-testing |
| 09:25.51 | _rd | deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free |
| 09:26.34 | _rd | then I run apt-get update and apt-get install community-ssu-enabler |
| 09:26.36 | _rd | but got |
| 09:26.43 | _rd | E: Couldn't find package community-ssu-enabler |
| 09:29.43 | Drathir | maybe try run HAM to update ? |
| 09:31.38 | _rd | Seems, I need to call the file cssu-testing.list |
| 09:33.55 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/VpP7m8er |
| 09:34.15 | Drathir | ~ # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list |
| 09:34.38 | Drathir | but nokias repository now doesnt works anymore... |
| 09:36.11 | Drathir | but idk if it a correct configuration this only mine config... |
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| 09:42.24 | _rd | Is there a cmd line to do the cssu upgrade? |
| 09:42.42 | _rd | apt-get upgrade will keep everything back, apt-get dist-upgrade will remove a lot of stuff (?) |
| 09:49.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | NEVER DO apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 09:49.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and even apt-get upgrade is highly deprecated |
| 09:50.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo is not really a debian distro when it comes to package management and apt |
| 09:51.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you're into cmdline a lot, then this one might give you some ideas: |
| 09:51.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
| 09:51.27 | infobot | [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
| 10:04.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | _rd: installation and update of CSSU is supported via HAM *only* |
| 10:05.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's annoyingly slow, but it has other benefits that outweigh this |
| 10:06.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | and don't think it got stuck, it's just busy and eventually will finish |
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| 10:08.12 | _rd | Thanks for reminding me. |
| 10:11.06 | _rd | Does CSSU-thumb have major issues? |
| 10:11.22 | _rd | Just wondering, if I should go for that one as well. |
| 10:12.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | you first should make familiar with cssu-t |
| 10:13.31 | _rd | beyond what is written on the wiki page? |
| 10:13.41 | _rd | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb |
| 10:13.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | thumb has no major "issues" but quite a number of idiosyncrasies that spoil "user experience". For example you need to worry when you want to use other kernels, or whenever a CSSU-t update gets rolled out |
| 10:14.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically cssu-thumb is to cssu-t what cssu-t is to stock maemo |
| 10:15.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | one basing on the other |
| 10:15.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | while this is the right concept for cssu-t, it's fundamentally flawed for cssu-thumb. thumb should rather roll an independent "fork" |
| 10:16.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | or call it "alternative distro" |
| 10:16.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't, and that creates repercussions when the stuff it bases on does change |
| 10:17.23 | _rd | ok, then I keep my fingers away from thumb right now |
| 10:17.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, learn about cssu-t then you will have better understanding how to handle cssu-thumb |
| 10:18.18 | _rd | I reflash my n900 again, maybe running apt-get broke something on the CSSU update. |
| 10:18.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | unlike cssu-t it doesn'T comprehensively support HAM based installation and update |
| 10:19.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | for thumb you have to know when to say "No Thanks, not this one please, it's bogus" |
| 10:19.19 | _rd | That would not scare me, in contrary I would even prefer to get manage the n900 with the cmd line instead of HAM. |
| 10:19.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sure. but then you need to know _how_ that's done |
| 10:20.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | and _how_ stuff works |
| 10:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's _not_ working like the usual debian distro |
| 10:20.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | and there is no good howto |
| 10:20.42 | _rd | I take HAM, fine for me now |
| 10:20.52 | _rd | (as long as it works ;-) |
| 10:21.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | once HAM doesn't work for CSSU, CSSU is dead |
| 10:21.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | we explicitly support HAM *only* |
| 10:21.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | (except for thumb) |
| 10:21.48 | _rd | BTW, do you know where the wlan passpharses are stored, i.e. is there a file I can restore, such that I do not loose all my passphrases? |
| 10:22.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 10:22.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | and no |
| 10:22.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's in gconf |
| 10:22.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | while basically gconf also are files, you are not suposed to safe and restore those |
| 10:23.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | osso-backup is doing such stuff for you |
| 10:23.07 | _rd | ok...can I extract the passphrase from the gconf file? |
| 10:23.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's rather good at it |
| 10:23.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
| 10:23.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | mompls |
| 10:24.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68063 |
| 10:25.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically `gconftool -R /<sometag> |
| 10:25.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | has all your connections |
| 10:25.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP |
| 10:26.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | or simply have a good read with `gconftool-2 -R /|less` |
| 10:26.33 | _rd | but I probably have to set --config-source= since I backed up all the config files (?) |
| 10:26.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | e.g /<ssid> kicks you to interesting region in less |
| 10:27.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're smarter than I am, here |
| 10:27.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 10:29.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | something like `find /<where> -name "%XML-or-sth%" exec grep "<your-SSID>" {} \;` might help |
| 10:30.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | the files gconftool uses are sth similar to "%XML%" |
| 10:33.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | %gconf.xml |
| 10:34.00 | _rd | After the re-flaching, do I have to run a HAM update, before running the cssu-t update? |
| 10:34.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | find /backup -name '%gconf.xml' |
| 10:34.11 | _rd | (via .install file and HAM) |
| 10:34.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 10:34.42 | _rd | Then CSSU-t does not work with a fresh flashed n900. |
| 10:35.09 | _rd | I can install the community-ssu-enabler and then I get a few updates offered.... |
| 10:35.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you flashed PR1.3 then you don't need to run updates, and you shouldn't install all offered updates in HAM but only the system upgrade |
| 10:35.35 | _rd | ...e.g. libqtm-bearer |
| 10:35.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | forget all those |
| 10:35.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | install the CSSU system upgrade HAM offers |
| 10:36.25 | _rd | it does not offer them for some reason. |
| 10:36.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, please rephrase |
| 10:36.59 | Drathir | add repository throught HAM maybe ? |
| 10:37.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | NJO! |
| 10:37.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu |
| 10:37.23 | infobot | well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 10:37.29 | _rd | The repository is there in HAM, the .install file did that. |
| 10:37.39 | _rd | I know the CSSU page very well ;-) |
| 10:37.50 | _rd | I took the .install file from there. |
| 10:38.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | the procedure is detailed, comprehensive, and tested |
| 10:38.26 | _rd | but I did run an HAM update before clicking the CSSU .install file. |
| 10:38.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | when ham comes up it will show you some updates available. Just pick the Community SSU system upgrade - NOTHING LESE |
| 10:39.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ELSE even |
| 10:39.17 | Drathir | but thats strange why dont showing cssu update inside ham... |
| 10:39.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't hurt but not useful |
| 10:39.52 | _rd | HAM comes up and does show its regular start screen. |
| 10:40.01 | _rd | I can go to "update" now (?) |
| 10:40.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | are you in point "5." of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation ? |
| 10:41.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | or in poin 7. |
| 10:41.22 | _rd | Just tried that, but I suspect I will only get the libqt* stuff again |
| 10:42.07 | _rd | yes that is what happened. |
| 10:42.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | are you in point "5." of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation ? or in point 7. ? |
| 10:43.09 | _rd | Sorry...I am at point 5 and missed 6 |
| 10:43.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | please follow instructions on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation |
| 10:44.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | the procedure is detailed, comprehensive, and tested |
| 10:44.17 | _rd | mea culpa for missing this point. |
| 10:46.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | due to the (somewhat complicated) nature of the process of installing CSSU, this is the most streamlined procedure we could come up with |
| 10:47.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all the installation of CSSU involves some nasty tweaks to repository list etc |
| 10:47.31 | _rd | It is working now, many thanks for helping. |
| 10:47.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
| 10:49.11 | _rd | BTW, do you want to have a look on my Xorg with the strange size from yesterday. I looked with a binary differ on it. There are many places which match exactly, but there are also many differences and mine also has a section with a lot of 00s. |
| 10:49.25 | _rd | I could not read out anything of it..... |
| 10:49.55 | _rd | ....in particular not what may have caused the broken installation. |
| 10:50.40 | _rd | will backupmenu also try to restore the installed packages? |
| 10:50.56 | _rd | i.e. does it store something like dpkg --get-selections? |
| 10:51.54 | _rd | just in case, here it is: http://bokomoko.de/~rd/Xorg.broken |
| 10:54.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | BM does a full logical (file level) disk image |
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| 11:04.19 | Drathir | thats interesting for me... Qåtd/lib/ld-linux.so.3GNUùôÁÕE |
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| 11:33.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
| 11:34.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, in Xorg.broken? |
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| 12:05.14 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: yes |
| 12:05.51 | Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: that looks for me like something of lib or program... |
| 12:07.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, hard to tell what it is, based on that random string. ld-linux.so is the genuine linux mechanism to load any executable |
| 12:08.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | for sure Xorg would want to use it one way or another to start arbitrary X client programs aka apps |
| 12:09.18 | Drathir | yea true... anyway ivteresting that virustotal will detect anything in it... |
| 12:10.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | please rephrase, does virustotal detect or not? |
| 12:16.55 | Drathir | yes virustotal have if good remember a scaner in top av providers, and if good remember have heusteristic scanning mean try detecting also not known types of viruses... |
| 12:28.18 | Drathir | https://www.virustotal.com/pl/file/de53a7d4c6fffddf3067ab789755b4c183ef289e46c6e6bd539409e340291c67/analysis/1371385525/ |
| 12:52.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks :-) |
| 13:01.26 | Drathir | np looks like clean but theoretically it can be suspicious code... |
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