| 00:01.14 | Drathir | Pali: update throught dpkg -i ? throught nokia app manager i cant update u-boot package |
| 00:01.58 | Pali | Drathir: why you cannot update u-boot package? |
| 00:02.02 | Pali | error message? |
| 00:02.39 | Drathir | the same error: !!!U-boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1 breaks the 3rd party package policy |
| 00:03.15 | Pali | and next? |
| 00:03.23 | Pali | which package it break? |
| 00:04.20 | Drathir | and in details only write cant update u-boot any reason described |
| 00:05.06 | Drathir | can check other way with more info? |
| 00:06.01 | Pali | Drathir: open log in app manager |
| 00:10.37 | Drathir | Pali: hmmm strange only have in log solmething that ? connected to 4cecc392-1391-4ed9-8d21-5e788892624e |
| 00:14.44 | Drathir | thats not good i think? |
| 00:15.19 | Pali | I do not know |
| 00:18.52 | Drathir | Pali: it make any difference that packages u-boot in past was installed from your site to support alarm version. |
| 00:19.42 | Pali | Drathir: no, I pushed similar version (from site) to extras-devel |
| 00:20.12 | Pali | Drathir: try to update via xterm apt-get |
| 00:20.29 | Pali | run as root: apt-get install u-boot-flasher |
| 00:20.48 | Drathir | ok going to try that |
| 00:20.54 | Pali | it will show detailed message |
| 00:32.42 | Drathir | package 2 hve conflict with linux kernel for power user power51r1. package 1 have conflict with linux kernel for power user (boot image for multiboot) // 1.Linux Kernel for power user 2.linux kernel for power user (boot image for u-boot) 3. u-boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1. |
| 00:33.10 | Drathir | but from console i have http://pastebin.com/FsbKa56Z |
| 00:33.34 | Drathir | to much for plain on the channnel |
| 00:43.20 | Drathir | its good or not? execute command again? btw the conflicts upper was from nokia app menager... |
| 00:45.12 | Pali | output from u-boot is OK |
| 00:46.27 | Pali | Drathir: what will happen if you try to update also kernel-power?: apt-get install kernel-power kernel-power-modules kernel-power-flasher kernel-power-bootimg |
| 00:46.54 | Pali | Drathir: now make sure you will *not* flash kernel-power to nand, because this erase uboot |
| 00:49.02 | Drathir | ok goin try do that |
| 00:50.40 | Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon: possible solution for upstart problem is here: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-upstart |
| 00:50.45 | Pali | it is NOT tested! |
| 00:53.59 | Pali | Drathir: any problem? |
| 01:01.51 | Drathir | Pali: i have monit to replace u-boot with power kernel in nand but i cancel that http://pastebin.com/bf7xsmT8 |
| 01:02.35 | Pali | ok, cancel that flash |
| 01:03.41 | Pali | it looks OK |
| 01:04.34 | Pali | merlin1991: it looks like you deleted my commit from mp-fremantle-community-pr repository, I merged them back |
| 01:04.58 | Pali | see sha commit id from Thursday January 24 2013 and Saturday June 08 2013: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr |
| 01:05.01 | Drathir | looks like nokia update app permit mistake u-boot instalation |
| 01:06.04 | Pali | ok, going off, bye |
| 01:06.05 | Drathir | btw any updates of fsck and mkfs planned in future? |
| 01:06.23 | Pali | it is planned |
| 01:06.36 | Drathir | Pali: thanks a lot for help calm dreams... |
| 01:06.57 | Drathir | oh thats great |
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| 10:04.13 | Pali | merlin1991: ping |
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| 10:13.48 | freemangordon_ | Pali: hi |
| 10:14.35 | freemangordon | Pali: could you push your upstart fix to mester? |
| 10:14.39 | freemangordon | *master |
| 10:14.49 | freemangordon | I'll test it on my second device |
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| 10:30.19 | freemangordon | merlin1991: "libcurl4-openssl-dev: Depends: libidn11-dev but it is not installable" |
| 10:34.23 | freemangordon | Pali: merged locally, will push if it works |
| 10:37.00 | Pali | freemangordon: ok, let me know if my changes fixed it |
| 10:38.49 | freemangordon | Pali: |
| 10:38.50 | freemangordon | grep: /sys/dev/block/8:8/device/../slot_name: No such file or directory |
| 10:38.50 | freemangordon | grep: /sys/dev/block/0:0/device/../slot_name: No such file or directory |
| 10:39.02 | Pali | shit |
| 10:39.10 | freemangordon | you're not getting major/minor correctly, will fix it |
| 10:39.29 | Pali | major=$((0x$minor)) |
| 10:39.32 | Pali | this is bad ^^^ |
| 10:39.42 | Pali | should be minor=$((0x$minor)) |
| 10:41.48 | Pali | freemangordon: do clean clone of git://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-upstart.git |
| 10:41.56 | Pali | now I fixed it |
| 10:42.06 | freemangordon | Pali: there are more problems |
| 10:42.19 | Pali | what? |
| 10:42.43 | freemangordon | oh wait, my bad |
| 10:42.51 | freemangordon | didn't echo $emmc :) |
| 10:43.51 | freemangordon | Pali: do we still default to mmcblk0? |
| 10:43.56 | freemangordon | (just asking) |
| 10:43.57 | Pali | yes |
| 10:43.58 | freemangordon | ok |
| 10:44.09 | Pali | for emmc in mmcblk1 mmcblk0; do ... |
| 10:44.15 | Pali | last is mmcblk0 |
| 10:44.44 | freemangordon | Pali: why clean clone, I added your repo as remote, going to just git pull --rebase pali master ;) |
| 10:45.01 | Pali | I rebased commits in my repo |
| 10:45.21 | freemangordon | oh |
| 10:45.21 | Pali | so you need to force pull |
| 10:48.59 | freemangordon | git reset --hard origin/master; git pull --rebase pali master did the job |
| 10:49.08 | Pali | ok |
| 10:50.56 | Drathir | can i ask if you using any gui for git or all by hand from command line? |
| 10:52.05 | freemangordon | Pali: |
| 10:52.07 | freemangordon | Configuration file `/etc/default/mount-opts' |
| 10:52.09 | freemangordon | ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. |
| 10:52.11 | freemangordon | ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version. |
| 10:52.13 | freemangordon | What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: |
| 10:52.15 | freemangordon | Y or I : install the package maintainer's version |
| 10:52.17 | freemangordon | N or O : keep your currently-installed version |
| 10:52.19 | freemangordon | D : show the differences between the versions |
| 10:52.21 | freemangordon | Z : background this process to examine the situation |
| 10:52.23 | freemangordon | The default action is to keep your current version. |
| 10:52.31 | Pali | did you edited that file? |
| 10:52.35 | freemangordon | Pali: no |
| 10:52.53 | Pali | ah, press Y |
| 10:53.11 | freemangordon | Pali: well, I will, the point is - will HAM press it :) |
| 10:53.34 | Pali | HAM propably updating config files |
| 10:53.46 | freemangordon | Pali: probably? hmm :( |
| 10:54.17 | freemangordon | Drathir: I use git-gui for pushing only |
| 10:54.25 | freemangordon | Drathir: everything else is by hand |
| 10:54.30 | freemangordon | in cli |
| 10:54.47 | freemangordon | Pali: black screen |
| 10:55.21 | freemangordon | Pali: will power-cycle just in case |
| 10:55.22 | Pali | :-( |
| 10:55.43 | freemangordon | oh, wait |
| 10:56.19 | freemangordon | booting the wrong kernel |
| 10:57.19 | Drathir | freemangordon: thanks for explain good to know |
| 10:57.55 | freemangordon | Pali: well, it boots with the cover opened :) |
| 10:58.13 | Pali | back cover? |
| 10:58.17 | freemangordon | yep |
| 10:58.22 | Pali | then SD card is disconected |
| 10:58.23 | freemangordon | (no usd) |
| 10:58.26 | freemangordon | i know |
| 10:59.00 | freemangordon | ok, boots wit it closed too |
| 10:59.07 | freemangordon | that's on KCSSU though |
| 10:59.35 | freemangordon | Pali: going to have something to eat, will flash stock and test after that |
| 10:59.46 | Pali | ok |
| 11:00.11 | freemangordon | merlin1991: or you cant test on your device ^^^ |
| 11:00.13 | freemangordon | *can |
| 11:01.33 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, could you try to find someone on #maemo to test |
| 11:02.21 | freemangordon | Pali: http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/upstart/ |
| 11:15.10 | freemangordon | Pali: going to post on TMO asking for some tester |
| 11:21.07 | freemangordon | merlin1991: where are you?!? |
| 11:30.15 | tadzik | is it safe to update to new cssu now? |
| 11:30.23 | tadzik | if it isn't, I can maybe provide a testcase |
| 11:30.26 | freemangordon | tadzik: new cssu? |
| 11:30.46 | tadzik | wasn't there one, that caused bootloops for folks? |
| 11:30.53 | freemangordon | tadzik: oh, that one |
| 11:31.17 | freemangordon | you can't install it, merlin1991 removed -pr from the repo to prevent more devices bootlooping |
| 11:31.25 | tadzik | okay, good |
| 11:47.06 | freemangordon | tadzik: I guess you can apt-get upgrade |
| 11:47.33 | tadzik | freemangordon: well, I thought I may open the pandora's box and help you with tracking down the bug |
| 11:47.38 | freemangordon | and the install (hopefully) fixed .debs from http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/upstart/ |
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| 11:47.59 | freemangordon | tadzik: we need someone to confir the issue is fixed with stock kernel |
| 11:48.09 | freemangordon | tadzik: but I guess you're on -thumb |
| 11:48.13 | tadzik | I don't think my thumb... exactly |
| 11:49.05 | freemangordon | so you'd better wait, I hope as soon as merlin1991 appears, we'll have a new -pr |
| 11:51.16 | tadzik | okayo |
| 11:56.40 | Drathir | tadzik: can i ask what is a pandora's box? |
| 11:57.08 | freemangordon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora%27s_box |
| 11:57.31 | Drathir | freemangordon: thanks /me goin to read |
| 11:59.09 | Drathir | lol oh... i think that name have a hidden second mean :p |
| 11:59.40 | Drathir | meaning* but not sure |
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| 15:36.49 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: so what's the status now? |
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| 17:17.58 | freemangordon | merlin1991: need someone to confirm it is fixed with stock kernel |
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| 17:27.19 | freemangordon | merlin1991: feel free to test the debs in my $HOME/upstart |
| 17:29.20 | Drathir | Pali: help help^^ |
| 17:30.38 | Drathir | after reboot device wifi indicator is red no wifi networks showing, where to search issue? |
| 17:30.58 | Drathir | how to check verifiy if drivers are loaded? |
| 17:32.47 | freemangordon | Drathir: do powerdown/powerup |
| 17:33.18 | Drathir | freemangordon: ok i try |
| 17:34.09 | Drathir | my lsmod : http://pastebin.com/jWLvc43X |
| 17:35.38 | freemangordon | hmm, no wifi mods if I see it correctly |
| 17:35.45 | freemangordon | woke up just a few minutes ago :) |
| 17:36.20 | Drathir | freemangordon: mornin |
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| 17:42.50 | Drathir | after reboot still red indicator of wifi. |
| 17:43.15 | freemangordon | Drathir: what indicator is that? |
| 17:43.24 | freemangordon | do you have autodisconnect by chance? |
| 17:44.05 | Drathir | near clock on homescreen |
| 17:44.47 | freemangordon | Drathir: could you provide a screenshot? as my device shows nothing where not connected |
| 17:45.04 | Drathir | normal looks similar to *)))) |
| 17:45.14 | Drathir | ok wait a sec i do screenshot |
| 17:45.51 | freemangordon | I know how it looks like when connected, the point is that I see no icon when disconnected |
| 17:46.37 | freemangordon | Drathir: since when it started to behave like that? |
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| 17:55.07 | Pali | Drathir: load driver wl12xx: modprobe wl12xx |
| 17:59.45 | Drathir | Pali: module wl1251_spi not found. |
| 18:00.22 | Drathir | freemangordon: yes after update and reboot to load new kernel |
| 18:00.32 | Pali | Drathir: module wl12xx |
| 18:00.36 | Pali | not wl1251 |
| 18:01.17 | Drathir | freemangordon: file uploading take a little because throught gsm uploading. |
| 18:01.44 | Drathir | Pali: yes i write wl12xx and this error message shown |
| 18:04.19 | Pali | Drathir: then you enabled packet injection drivers |
| 18:05.30 | Drathir | Pali: how to enable it? |
| 18:07.30 | Pali | Drathir: can you post files which are in /etc/modprobe.d/ ? |
| 18:07.41 | Drathir | yes ofc |
| 18:07.56 | Pali | also check if you have module wl12xx.ko in /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/ |
| 18:10.37 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/DVcTq1XB /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 18:10.39 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
| 18:10.45 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 18:10.50 | merlin1991 | atm installing the packages ;9 |
| 18:10.54 | freemangordon | oh, ok |
| 18:11.03 | freemangordon | merlin1991: make sure to purge the old config |
| 18:11.08 | merlin1991 | did |
| 18:11.11 | freemangordon | ok |
| 18:11.18 | freemangordon | just reminding :) |
| 18:13.09 | Drathir | confirm file wl12xx.ko is in power52 |
| 18:13.42 | merlin1991 | dpkg -L kernel-power-modules | grep wl12xx.ko |
| 18:16.19 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: boots |
| 18:16.36 | Drathir | merlin1991: http://pastebin.com/44aj1iRn |
| 18:16.57 | merlin1991 | so it should be there :) |
| 18:17.09 | merlin1991 | though in retrospect I should have read that from your confirm line :) |
| 18:17.14 | merlin1991 | I read it as a question though |
| 18:18.24 | Pali | Drathir: download this script to device http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/packet-injection.sh |
| 18:19.05 | Pali | Drathir: and run: ./packet-injection.sh disable && ./packet-injection.sh unload |
| 18:21.25 | freemangordon | merlin1991: going to push to gitorious |
| 18:21.57 | merlin1991 | I might have a proper scratchbox here, gotta check, if not I can release it on sunday evening |
| 18:23.41 | Drathir | Pali: http://pastebin.com/Lv6EEDzc |
| 18:25.13 | Pali | Drathir: this is bad "libwl1251: libwl1251_nl_init failed" |
| 18:25.24 | Pali | which version of kernel you using? |
| 18:25.29 | Pali | run: uname -a |
| 18:25.41 | freemangordon | merlin1991: pushed |
| 18:26.10 | Drathir | 2.6.28.10-power52 |
| 18:26.44 | Pali | Drathir: now please provide dmesg output |
| 18:26.51 | freemangordon | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/upstart/commit/5b763eea9ce683e05c6d79528f1d3282a54b13dc |
| 18:26.56 | freemangordon | what is the idea? |
| 18:27.26 | Pali | when maemo rootfs (with /opt) is stored on eMMC or SD card |
| 18:27.33 | merlin1991 | Pali: what u-boot in devel is yours again? |
| 18:27.45 | freemangordon | Pali: ok, thanks |
| 18:28.04 | Pali | merlin1991: u-boot in extras-devel? |
| 18:28.17 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 18:28.34 | Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/u-boot-flasher/ |
| 18:28.51 | merlin1991 | thanks |
| 18:28.54 | Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/u-boot-tools/ |
| 18:29.13 | Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/u-boot-bootimg/ |
| 18:29.14 | merlin1991 | it's confusing with 3 different u-boot packages in devel where 2 are called uboot-* and yours is u-boot-* |
| 18:29.33 | Pali | other uboot version should be removed from extras |
| 18:30.03 | Drathir | Pali: http://pastebin.com/BVHAmXFR |
| 18:30.43 | Pali | Drathir: hm... try to reboot device |
| 18:31.23 | Pali | maybe it really it is needed to reboot after calling enable/disable command from above script |
| 18:31.27 | Drathir | btw charger sometimes not connecting because entrance of port is lazy and show charger connecting/disconnecting can be a spam inside dmesg |
| 18:31.42 | Drathir | ok rebooting |
| 18:33.57 | Pali | merlin1991: when you going to update CSSU-T can you add also last version of ke-recv from git (it is in cssu-devel) |
| 18:34.18 | Pali | ke-recv will use mount-opts from upstart config file |
| 18:34.49 | Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991: if you do not have, can you update and test ke-recv from cssu-devel? |
| 18:35.13 | freemangordon | Pali: since when ke-recv is in -devel? |
| 18:35.51 | Pali | May 09 |
| 18:36.37 | freemangordon | ke-recv (3.19-16) unstable; urgency=low |
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| 18:36.53 | freemangordon | this is what I have on my "production" device |
| 18:37.00 | Pali | also package osso-af-utils (since January 12 2013) |
| 18:37.09 | freemangordon | Pali: no |
| 18:37.23 | freemangordon | lets include it in the next update |
| 18:37.33 | Pali | that are changes which should go together with dsme version which is now in CSSU-T |
| 18:37.40 | freemangordon | oh |
| 18:37.48 | freemangordon | well, ok then |
| 18:37.51 | Pali | then downgrade dsme |
| 18:37.56 | freemangordon | why it is not included? |
| 18:38.09 | Pali | merlin1991? |
| 18:38.37 | Pali | more packages was updated to use /var/lib/dsme/saved_state instead calling getbootstate |
| 18:38.52 | freemangordon | Pali: wait, if it depends on osso-af-utils>x why it is able to install? |
| 18:39.01 | Pali | it does not depends |
| 18:39.09 | Pali | but same change which is in dsme is also in osso-af-utils |
| 18:39.13 | freemangordon | but it should if it needs it |
| 18:39.27 | freemangordon | however |
| 18:40.49 | Pali | lasy version of ke-recv in devel & git is 3.19-16 |
| 18:42.12 | Drathir | freemangordon: http://db.tt/YCb1MLOX |
| 18:42.38 | freemangordon | Drathir: never seen that :) |
| 18:42.49 | freemangordon | loocs scary :D |
| 18:42.52 | freemangordon | *looks |
| 18:44.14 | Drathir | freemangordon: yea i was scared but second i think new icons set and when network is off have red indicator |
| 18:45.31 | Drathir | freemangordon: but after moment icon set inside kernel cant ba a true |
| 18:47.24 | Drathir | btw i must think about something to do with usb port to be thiner again, but really scare... |
| 18:49.44 | Drathir | Pali: no changes |
| 18:53.11 | Pali | Drathir: please provide again /etc/modprobe.d and dmesg |
| 18:53.29 | Pali | plus: ls -l -a /lib/modules/<kernel_version> |
| 18:55.09 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/jsPzcREP |
| 18:56.22 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/Xjz4BZcG |
| 19:00.01 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/vxVLL9Pj |
| 19:00.57 | Drathir | <kernel_versin> i changed to power52 |
| 19:02.54 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/qqk2vNWz |
| 19:04.02 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/gqk2vNWz correct |
| 19:07.38 | Drathir | or maybe i must make update again? is possible something not correctly installed yesterday? or not connected with problem? |
| 19:14.20 | Pali | Drathir: in /etc/modprobe.d is still packet-injection.conf |
| 19:14.34 | Pali | can you re-run that script with disable arg (as root)? |
| 19:16.11 | Pali | what is command of gqk2vNWz? |
| 19:19.30 | Pali | Drathir: there is bug in that script |
| 19:19.39 | Pali | Now I found where is problem, going to fix it |
| 19:19.50 | Pali | wait for new version of script |
| 19:22.59 | Pali | Drathir: now fixed, please download new version of http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/packet-injection.sh and run disable again |
| 19:26.09 | Drathir | Pali: ok i try to run only disable command |
| 19:26.46 | Pali | and post output of disable command |
| 19:27.03 | Drathir | say packet injection alredy disabled |
| 19:27.21 | Drathir | are alredy* |
| 19:28.02 | Drathir | is the same commans byt on kernel power51 |
| 19:28.06 | Drathir | command* |
| 19:28.54 | freemangordon | merlin1991: so? are you gonna fix it or we'll wait until tomorrow? In both cases, please do some PR on TMO :) |
| 19:29.01 | Pali | Drathir: please run: ls -l -a /etc/modprobe.d/packet-injection.conf |
| 19:29.07 | Pali | ls -l -a /etc/event.d/packet-injection |
| 19:29.17 | Drathir | cat ls -l -a /lib/modules/2.6.28.10-power51/ |
| 19:29.27 | Drathir | ok checking |
| 19:30.00 | Drathir | redownkoload the script |
| 19:34.35 | Drathir | http://pastebin.com/s3pzGMbm |
| 19:35.36 | Drathir | packets modules are alredy disabled |
| 19:37.03 | Drathir | ls -l -a /etc/event.d/packet-injection |
| 19:37.12 | Drathir | this file noe egsist |
| 19:37.17 | Pali | this looks OK :-) "wl1251-cal: Got CAL NVS" |
| 19:37.18 | Drathir | not* |
| 19:37.28 | Pali | also MAC address found |
| 19:37.44 | Pali | now your wifi should work |
| 19:38.07 | Drathir | this also not egsist ls -l -a /etc/modprobe.d/packet-injection.conf |
| 19:38.27 | Pali | rigth, all should be deleted if packet injection is disabled |
| 19:38.39 | Drathir | correct wifi search networks work again |
| 19:38.53 | Pali | ok, so problem solved? |
| 19:39.06 | Drathir | guys thanks a lot for a help |
| 19:39.27 | Pali | Drathir: and I thank you for finding bug in my script :-) |
| 19:39.31 | Drathir | yes i try reboot to check if red indicator removed |
| 19:39.55 | Drathir | because now have 2 ^^ |
| 19:40.06 | Drathir | red and white ;p |
| 19:44.02 | Pali | two icons? |
| 19:44.15 | Pali | maybe you installed 3rd application? |
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| 19:47.07 | Drathir | proppably not refreshed yet after reboot should go to normal i get screenshot uploading now |
| 19:54.56 | eddyb | Pali, freemangordon: back :D |
| 19:55.06 | eddyb | do I need anything more than http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/bootmenu/1.12/ ? |
| 19:55.28 | eddyb | apt-get and aptitude don't seem to work, I'm thinking I could dpkg -i that deb package |
| 19:55.58 | Pali | eddyb: bootmenu DEB is enought, but make sure you do *not* have installed multiboot |
| 19:56.01 | eddyb | maybe from a script so I can save the output for feedback. too bad maemo doesn't have a sane sudo >:( |
| 19:56.19 | eddyb | Pali: nope, didn't install any boot-related package since I flashed |
| 19:56.35 | Pali | ok |
| 19:56.35 | eddyb | I think multiboot broke my previous root |
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| 20:18.08 | eddyb | ctrl+shift+x only works if it's the first thing I do... it's almost as if the window manager (or whatever's left of it) does z-indexing backwards |
| 20:18.35 | Drathir | 2 icons ^^ http://db.tt/Ry6swClT |
| 20:19.13 | Drathir | *not_true* hit n900 with dual wlan inside |
| 20:21.59 | eddyb | huh? |
| 20:25.54 | eddyb | Pali: would this work? cd /home/user/MyDocs; dpkg -i bootmenu_1.12_armel.deb 2>&1 > dpkg_log |
| 20:26.26 | Pali | Drathir: this looks like some 3rd app... |
| 20:26.51 | Pali | eddyb: no |
| 20:26.59 | eddyb | dammit |
| 20:26.59 | Pali | bad order of &> operators |
| 20:27.04 | eddyb | huh? |
| 20:27.06 | Pali | 1> dpkg_log 2>&1 |
| 20:27.51 | Pali | ^ this is correct ^ |
| 20:28.03 | eddyb | oh my, I must've done this wrong so many times |
| 20:28.46 | eddyb | but I've seen it done this way more times than I've done it |
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| 20:29.17 | eddyb | lovely |
| 20:29.22 | Drathir | Pali: after reboot all go to normal status one icon |
| 20:29.50 | Pali | ok |
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| 20:31.33 | Drathir | thanks again guys for help looks like problem sloved |
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| 20:32.43 | Drathir | looks all works goin to apply cssu update |
| 20:33.17 | Pali | Drathir: updating CSSU-T not working yet |
| 20:33.36 | Pali | it is disabled until reboot loop will be fixed and pushed to repos |
| 20:34.10 | Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991: is my patch for upstart fixing that reboot loop? |
| 20:34.12 | Drathir | ok good to know |
| 20:38.28 | eddyb | gaah if only the damn thing didn't make sounds |
| 20:39.11 | eddyb | Pali: 4 lines, the last one is Setting up bootmenu (1.12) ..., I think it's done :D. do I reboot now? |
| 20:39.38 | Pali | ok, reboot and open keyboard |
| 20:39.47 | eddyb | (not in that order) |
| 20:40.17 | Pali | when device will boot with open keyboard it show bootmenu |
| 20:41.08 | Pali | and big warning! when you are in bootmenu you *cannot* change battery! |
| 20:41.33 | eddyb | the same thing as multiboot? |
| 20:41.34 | Pali | so before doing some big usb transfers (like cloning eMMC) charge battery to FULL in maemo |
| 20:41.38 | Drathir | is anything boot stuff to good to have to instal eg. to fix loop/boot problems? |
| 20:42.20 | Pali | Drathir: u-boot, bootmenu and recovery console |
| 20:42.33 | Pali | Drathir: and also backupmenu |
| 20:42.40 | eddyb | Pali: which thing do I choose? |
| 20:42.52 | Pali | eddyb: what you need to do? |
| 20:43.51 | eddyb | access the raw /home partition |
| 20:44.10 | eddyb | I want to dd it then attempt to fix it |
| 20:45.08 | Drathir | Pali: u-boot here backupmenu here, but must read about boot menu and recorvery console if this a packages too. |
| 20:45.28 | Pali | eddyb: then start usb mass storage mode |
| 20:45.34 | eddyb | it's not called that |
| 20:45.36 | eddyb | USB hard drive? |
| 20:46.04 | eddyb | oh, press Ctrl for USB mass storage mode |
| 20:46.06 | eddyb | that? |
| 20:46.14 | Pali | eddyb: yes |
| 20:46.30 | Pali | and make sure you have full battery |
| 20:46.48 | Pali | (or enough for data transfer) |
| 20:46.52 | eddyb | I left it charging before I did anything today |
| 20:46.57 | Pali | ok |
| 20:47.03 | eddyb | RX-51...? |
| 20:47.09 | Pali | because in this mode, battery is not charging |
| 20:47.24 | Pali | eddyb: should be |
| 20:47.28 | eddyb | would need battery management drivers to charge? |
| 20:47.31 | Pali | it export full eMMC and SD card |
| 20:47.43 | eddyb | ok, I won't mount it. time to learn dd params :P |
| 20:48.17 | Pali | eddyb: dd if=/from.. of=/to.. bs=4M |
| 20:48.30 | Pali | 4M is good for our eMMC |
| 20:48.38 | eddyb | thanks :D |
| 20:48.53 | Drathir | Pali: about battery i dont know yet, next good to know... in backup menu is enabled emergency charging mode? |
| 20:49.29 | Pali | could be, do not know, I used backupmenu 2 years ago... |
| 20:49.55 | Pali | everything needed I have in my bootmenu (usb networking & usb mass storage) |
| 20:50.31 | eddyb | dammit I'm not sure which device it is |
| 20:50.46 | Drathir | Pali: backupmenu dont conflict with bootmenu? |
| 20:50.59 | Pali | no, backupmenu using bootmenu :-) |
| 20:51.07 | Pali | backupmenu is boot entry for bootmenu |
| 20:53.04 | eddyb | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.08 | eddyb | had to use hwinfo for that |
| 20:54.33 | eddyb | looks like 8-16MB/s |
| 20:54.53 | Drathir | btw 1. maemo 5 community ssu package and 2. community ssu enabler still avaible on package update list... |
| 20:54.55 | eddyb | Pali: how big is it? |
| 20:55.25 | Pali | eddyb: /home partition? By default 2GB |
| 20:55.35 | eddyb | 1GB done already |
| 20:55.48 | eddyb | a full battery is more than enough to dd it |
| 20:56.05 | Pali | Drathir: packages are in package list, but DEB package from URL removed |
| 20:56.16 | eddyb | but the small speed means I'll have to test recovery methods on the copy |
| 20:57.09 | Drathir | Pali: oh from thats side, maybe/looks like i have too bootmenu installed hrhr |
| 20:57.21 | eddyb | 2147483648 de octeți (2,1 GB) copiați, 176,791 s, 12,1 MB/s |
| 20:59.25 | Drathir | like n900 speed |
| 21:00.37 | eddyb | sorry for the localized unix |
| 21:03.04 | eddyb | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2,0G iun 9 00:01 home_part.orig |
| 21:03.47 | eddyb | that should stop me from wrecking the original |
| 21:05.52 | eddyb | o_O |
| 21:06.03 | eddyb | Pali: there's a lot of stuff in lost+found |
| 21:06.31 | Pali | eddyb: this is what fsck found |
| 21:07.05 | eddyb | it's like random directories |
| 21:07.06 | Pali | if you want paths for something maemo special, ask... |
| 21:07.24 | eddyb | too bad they're listed by inode, kinda hard to figure where everything belongs |
| 21:09.11 | eddyb | Pali: can I get the original from somewhere? |
| 21:09.25 | eddyb | I'm tempted to write a script that matches partial trees from lost+found |
| 21:09.50 | eddyb | oh dammit there's a lot of android stuff mixed in |
| 21:09.53 | Pali | eddyb: not, because fsck was not able to get where was inode... |
| 21:10.08 | eddyb | I mean original partition, vanilla |
| 21:11.57 | Drathir | Pali: how about package "recorvery mode", also good to be installed ? |
| 21:12.15 | eddyb | Pali: at least I have a programming challenge :P |
| 21:12.46 | Drathir | eddyb: android stuff? |
| 21:12.54 | eddyb | from NITdroid |
| 21:13.00 | eddyb | in /home |
| 21:13.03 | Pali | Drathir: it is bootmenu entry for classic linux console recovery mode |
| 21:13.11 | merlin1991 | Pali: I've tested what freemangordon built and uploaded to the server, that worked which patch are you talking about? |
| 21:13.12 | Pali | but for this is needed kernel-power |
| 21:13.44 | merlin1991 | and please again for me the problem/situation with osso-af-utils |
| 21:13.45 | Pali | merlin1991: yes, freemangordon builded upstart with my patches |
| 21:13.56 | eddyb | am I right in thinking the fact that lost+found contains a lot of stuff, there's nothing left to fix, but look in lost+found? |
| 21:13.57 | merlin1991 | it works on my device with sd inserted |
| 21:14.14 | Drathir | eddyb: oh i see , can i ask about experience of using NIDroid? |
| 21:14.25 | Pali | merlin1991: more packages was updated to use /var/... instead calling getbootstate. one of these packages was dsme |
| 21:14.36 | Drathir | NITdroid* |
| 21:14.39 | merlin1991 | but /var/... is generated? |
| 21:14.49 | Pali | and I think it is not good idea to update only one package which using that from /var/... |
| 21:14.53 | eddyb | Drathir: I can't install chrome because it's gingerbread |
| 21:15.01 | Pali | yet that file in /var/.... is generated in /sbin/preinit |
| 21:15.34 | eddyb | OMG |
| 21:15.34 | Pali | s/yet/yes/ |
| 21:15.41 | eddyb | Pali: I found /user/home |
| 21:15.45 | eddyb | err /home/user |
| 21:15.53 | Pali | eddyb :-) |
| 21:16.01 | merlin1991 | Pali: well when we talked about what goes into this cssu release nobody said anything of osso-af-utils and ke-recv :/ |
| 21:16.09 | merlin1991 | I've built this release based on that information |
| 21:16.12 | eddyb | Pali: although it's missing some things |
| 21:17.15 | Pali | merlin1991: I do not remember but problem with this CSSU-T update was that it was late and it contains a lot of patches and I forget what was included here... |
| 21:17.34 | merlin1991 | true |
| 21:17.54 | merlin1991 | the time between this and the last update, and the time it took me to get it together was quite a bit :/ |
| 21:17.59 | Pali | and so maybe I forgot to tell you about ke-recv or osso-af-utils... |
| 21:18.40 | Pali | at least, now I have that script which print version of all packages in git, devel, testing and stable repos |
| 21:18.54 | Pali | so we can look what is missing in devel or testing |
| 21:19.00 | Pali | and not to forget something to push |
| 21:19.53 | eddyb | Pali: where's var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb placed? |
| 21:19.55 | Pali | ~#maemo cssu-state is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/cssu-state.sh |
| 21:19.55 | infobot | Pali: okay |
| 21:20.24 | Pali | eddyb: in MyDocs/.apt... or in /opt somewhere... |
| 21:20.39 | eddyb | derp |
| 21:20.48 | eddyb | I think this is /opt |
| 21:20.50 | eddyb | but I'm not sure |
| 21:21.52 | eddyb | #90113 |
| 21:22.00 | Pali | in MyDocs I have (or had) some .apt* dirs |
| 21:22.08 | eddyb | it's not that |
| 21:22.17 | merlin1991 | there are some cache dirs from apt-worker there afaik |
| 21:22.39 | merlin1991 | ie. .apt-archive-cache |
| 21:24.11 | eddyb | Pali: I guess I'll grab a fresh partition, and try to combine those files with the few in lost+found |
| 21:24.24 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: PR is out there, more or less |
| 21:25.40 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: not like I'm the pr man, you have way more interaction with the community than me ;) |
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| 21:34.58 | eddyb | lol |
| 21:35.12 | eddyb | Pali: there's something left in /home |
| 21:35.58 | eddyb | although I'm not sure if it's some kind of skelly or left from before |
| 21:37.57 | eddyb | ./user/.modest/cache/mail/imap/edy.burt__imap.gmail.com_993/ |
| 21:38.00 | eddyb | hah, that's still there |
| 21:40.38 | eddyb | Pali: I would just remove lost+found from the real partition, put vanilla stuff in, and see how it boots then |
| 21:40.42 | eddyb | is that a good plan? |
| 21:41.19 | Pali | no, your fs is really corrupted and I suggest you to do full reflash |
| 21:41.27 | eddyb | hmm |
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| 21:42.18 | Pali | in case you have working rootfs, full reflash is: flash vanilla and then flash combined image |
| 21:42.30 | Pali | this will erase and reformat everything in device |
| 21:42.40 | Pali | also MyDocs! |
| 21:43.35 | eddyb | what if I take the clean partition, loopback mount it, copy the few things I didn't lose from /home, fsck on my laptop, then dd that back in the device? |
| 21:43.51 | eddyb | I'd rather not touch MyDocs :S |
| 21:43.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | and keep a backup of any files in /home/user/* and /home/user/MyDocs/* |
| 21:44.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsck yields poor results usually |
| 21:44.53 | eddyb | I already have the entire /home partition. maybe I should write a script to backup everything in MyDocs but the biggest things (evopedia english wikipedia and kde4) |
| 21:45.04 | Pali | eddyb: backup also MyDocs |
| 21:45.17 | Pali | and rather do full reflash, fsck not working ideally and correctly |
| 21:45.28 | eddyb | I mean fsck on a simple file |
| 21:45.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can access MyDocs via mass storage mode |
| 21:45.59 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: he using my bootmenu which export full eMMC via mass storage (also /home) for backup |
| 21:46.00 | eddyb | and I said that just to make sure it was perfectly clean when I put it back in |
| 21:46.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah |
| 21:46.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | even better |
| 21:46.26 | eddyb | wouldn't bootmenu let me write a different /home partition? |
| 21:46.37 | eddyb | like a clean one+some of my files that I didn't lose? |
| 21:47.01 | eddyb | I'd rather have that than nuke the entire phone. |
| 21:47.07 | Drathir | my MyDocs after crash and readonly mode works but can crash in anytime :p better do full and dont loose your data... |
| 21:47.29 | eddyb | what does MyDocs have to do with anything? |
| 21:47.35 | eddyb | it's not like it's dirty now |
| 21:48.10 | eddyb | I wouldn't mind replacing /home then doing a root reflash, but without MyDocs |
| 21:49.14 | eddyb | what's in /home/opt that would be modified by cssu-thumb and/or any updates? |
| 21:49.46 | eddyb | I've seen 5 different places where binaries and libraries can go in maemo, it's crazy :( |
| 21:52.35 | merlin1991 | eddyb: when you flash rootfs an huge bunch of stuff goes to /opt |
| 21:52.36 | Drathir | archlinux last update merge all /sbin /usr/sbin /bin to /usr/bin there only big was moved to bigger space... |
| 21:52.43 | merlin1991 | basically on a flashed never booted device /opt is empty |
| 21:52.57 | merlin1991 | then on first boot it moves stuff over |
| 21:53.13 | eddyb | merlin1991: so if I change /home then flash, it will ensure it's bootable? |
| 21:53.24 | eddyb | wait, what's in /home before flashing? |
| 21:54.02 | eddyb | what you say might make this easier, if I create a clean partition for /home then reflash |
| 21:54.29 | Drathir | maybe now if nokia allow it should be possible to rearrange space for all directories in new modern way... |
| 21:54.34 | eddyb | I do have to change /home before reflashing, because I need bootmenu for direct eMMC access. lovely system architecture |
| 21:55.02 | merlin1991 | Drathir: the main problem is / is on a different physical space than /home |
| 21:55.38 | merlin1991 | and since we need /usr for boot we can't seperate there |
| 21:55.47 | merlin1991 | hence opt was born |
| 21:56.20 | Drathir | merlin1991: but theoreticaly is possible to resize all default partitions if permissin was granted officially? |
| 21:57.33 | eddyb | officially? |
| 21:57.39 | eddyb | you could probably do it yourself |
| 21:58.05 | eddyb | merlin1991: but why is there a / and a /home partition? |
| 21:58.51 | merlin1991 | eddyb / is on one physical flash device and /home and MyDocs are on the other device |
| 21:58.56 | eddyb | oh, nvm |
| 22:02.35 | eddyb | what's that for? speed? |
| 22:03.24 | eddyb | and why couldn't more stuff be permanently mounted in /whatever on another partition? |
| 22:03.28 | merlin1991 | who knows, ask nokia :D |
| 22:03.57 | merlin1991 | well I guess their idea was to keep the essential system on the / device and only move user programs to /opt |
| 22:04.31 | merlin1991 | you know the emergency call guidline, it just has to work in the worst conditions, even without /opt |
| 22:04.42 | eddyb | is that sarcastic? |
| 22:05.11 | eddyb | emergency call wouldn't work on my N900 with /home half-fucked |
| 22:05.21 | merlin1991 | and it actually does, I had a device where the flash for /opt broke, it still booted and I could make calls, only without /opt (that flash also has swap on it) everything else was basically useless |
| 22:05.46 | merlin1991 | but it does boot into maemo and you can use the caller without /home and /opt and no swap |
| 22:06.00 | eddyb | can you read the text? |
| 22:06.12 | merlin1991 | hm? |
| 22:06.18 | eddyb | text on screen. is it readable? |
| 22:06.22 | merlin1991 | themes are on /usr/share which is part of / |
| 22:06.28 | merlin1991 | so yes |
| 22:06.41 | merlin1991 | it looks okay, only when you start touching stuff shit goes south |
| 22:06.52 | eddyb | that sounds like it works better than mine |
| 22:07.12 | merlin1991 | like open microb --> insufficient memory program "internet" has ben aborted was the most fun bit |
| 22:07.38 | eddyb | I just remembered this, why does maemo shut down if I kill browser(d)? |
| 22:08.08 | merlin1991 | because browsered is goverend by dsme since it's boost started |
| 22:08.29 | merlin1991 | and if you kill stuff that is under dsmes area it thinks the device is malfunctioning and reboots |
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| 22:08.42 | merlin1991 | makes not that much sense for the browser though |
| 22:08.50 | eddyb | idea: instead of having everything in /home, move it to /user_partition or something like that and then mount /home, /opt, parts of /usr and whatever else you want. also, for crying out loud, decide on a sane directory layout, right now it's splattered |
| 22:08.59 | eddyb | merlin1991: oh dear that's smart |
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| 22:09.43 | merlin1991 | eddyb: well the bindmount of /home/opt to /opt has one advantage though |
| 22:09.53 | merlin1991 | you don't run into problems where there is space in /home but none in /opt |
| 22:10.15 | eddyb | it's not bad in theory, but it looks like a bad hack |
| 22:10.30 | eddyb | (the way it's implemented, that is) |
| 22:10.49 | eddyb | I'm curious, what's in the original /home partition? |
| 22:10.54 | Drathir | for me most missing thing is ultra lightweight browser like opera/ucweb java versions... |
| 22:11.40 | kerio | opera mobile is kinda like that |
| 22:11.42 | merlin1991 | eddyb: afaik the pr 1.1.1 was just a resize of the MyDocs parition to make space for opt |
| 22:12.45 | Drathir | kerio: yea but is still too big and slow |
| 22:12.47 | eddyb | but is there anything in /home? |
| 22:12.55 | eddyb | if I do the full reflash |
| 22:14.40 | eddyb | I feel like I should just reformat to a clean partition via YaST and copy some of the config files in |
| 22:14.49 | eddyb | then do a simple root reflash |
| 22:15.30 | Drathir | i have compare and remember when i go from symbian to n900 yes opera mobile have more abilities but i missing for fast reading and search things on web... and compresion of content was also much more because data was rendered by server side... |
| 22:18.14 | eddyb | hmm, is it possible the microb cache overflowed and I had no space left in /home? |
| 22:19.16 | eddyb | and then a random reboot made the old fsck get to work and screw up |
| 22:41.31 | Drathir | eddyb: microb if good remember have limit in config |
| 22:42.14 | eddyb | oh, yeah, nvm |
| 22:42.47 | Drathir | that is started opera memory usage http://pastebin.com/aUhXHV1X |
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| 23:47.20 | freemangordon | is reading through the backscroll |
| 23:47.57 | freemangordon | 00:25 <merlin1991> freemangordon: not like I'm the pr man, you have way more interaction with the community than me ;) |
| 23:48.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991: well, you are supposed to be, being a member of the HFC, MCC and CSSU ,maintainer ;) |
| 23:49.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: people like to hear from "the officials" you know |
| 23:49.39 | freemangordon | and /me is sick of playing CSSU PR guy :( |
| 23:52.55 | merlin1991 | how come? |
| 23:54.36 | freemangordon | merlin1991: come on, everytime when there is someting screwed in CSSU it is me to play the PR, check the thread on TMO |