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10:32.46 | fw190 | DocScrutinizer05: hello! do you have a minut or two? |
10:33.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | shoot |
10:33.29 | fw190 | a while ago I had problems with spinning down my dis cin opensuse |
10:33.35 | fw190 | and you suggested me to do |
10:33.41 | fw190 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >>/etc/init.d/boot.local |
10:33.43 | fw190 | and then |
10:34.01 | fw190 | grep -r hdparm /etc |
10:34.08 | fw190 | it worked a few times |
10:34.21 | fw190 | but today after fresh install of opensuse with lxde |
10:34.28 | fw190 | it doesnt want to cooperate with me ;) |
10:34.52 | fw190 | the grep gives: /etc/sysconfig/ide:# mode) or any mode supported by hdparm (e.g. "mdma2", "udma5", ...) |
10:35.44 | fw190 | in boot.local i get: echo: command not found |
10:35.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | huh? |
10:36.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | your bash tells you "echo: command not found" ? |
10:37.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | and what do you mean by "in boot.local "? |
10:38.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | please paste result of |
10:38.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ls -l /etc/init.d/boot.local |
10:38.45 | fw190 | -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 405 05-03 12:29 /etc/init.d/boot.local |
10:39.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >>/etc/init.d/boot.local |
10:39.28 | fw190 | well in boot.local ther suposed to be this: "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
10:39.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
10:40.16 | fw190 | after your command there is: echo: command not found /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda |
10:40.24 | fw190 | in two lines |
10:40.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | tail -n 3 /etc/init.d/boot.local |
10:40.31 | fw190 | and the disc keeps spinning |
10:40.51 | fw190 | echo: command not found /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda |
10:41.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, where or what is that? |
10:41.46 | fw190 | that is the output of |
10:41.51 | fw190 | tail -n 3 /etc/init.d/boot.local |
10:42.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
10:42.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
10:43.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | please paste your input line and the result line |
10:43.38 | fw190 | output: /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda |
10:43.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | no way |
10:43.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's no "output:" on your screen |
10:44.25 | fw190 | well Iahve pasted the command |
10:44.28 | fw190 | then enter |
10:44.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~> echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
10:44.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda |
10:44.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~> |
10:45.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is how your paste should look like |
10:45.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | here |
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10:46.05 | fw190 | If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this: cnf echo |
10:46.49 | fw190 | that is what pops out after: echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
10:47.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | can't you just c&P? |
10:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | incl prompt and everything |
10:47.37 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this: cnf echo |
10:48.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder what shell you're using |
10:49.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | or if you're in an xterm at all |
10:49.33 | fw190 | LXTerminal |
10:49.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
10:50.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, nfc what you're doing there |
10:50.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo is a builtin of bash |
10:50.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
10:50.57 | fw190 | I'm starting LXterinal and puting the commands ;) |
10:51.05 | fw190 | and a shit storm comes out |
10:51.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't use LXterminal |
10:51.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | never heard of that |
10:52.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, echo an unknown command. I can't help on that |
10:53.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | try Konsole |
10:53.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even xterm |
10:53.46 | fw190 | yes |
10:53.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | or type the shit on console1 (alt-ctrl-F1) |
10:53.51 | fw190 | I'm in xterm now |
10:53.55 | fw190 | and trying to |
10:54.00 | fw190 | do it again |
10:54.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo test |
10:55.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | or, even better: |
10:55.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/bin/echo $PATH |
10:56.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | paste cmdline plus result here |
10:56.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | you don't want to try and do it again, as you already messed up stuff |
10:57.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, please do |
10:57.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/bin/echo $PATH |
10:58.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | and then please do: |
10:58.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo test |
10:58.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | paste those 4 lines here |
10:58.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | the 2 input and 2 output lines |
10:59.00 | fw190 | fw190@linux-gsm8:~> /usr/bin/echo $PATH /home/fw190/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games |
10:59.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | not concatenated |
10:59.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | but meh |
10:59.29 | fw190 | fw190@linux-gsm8:~> echo test test |
11:00.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | this doesn't come in as two lines here |
11:00.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it looks like that on your screen then you got a problem |
11:00.55 | fw190 | the output of echo test |
11:00.58 | fw190 | is test |
11:01.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | then please do: |
11:02.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >/etc/init.d/boot.local |
11:02.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^ this is different to previous one |
11:02.53 | fw190 | I did it |
11:03.24 | fw190 | nothing popped out |
11:03.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's fine |
11:03.58 | fw190 | "im doeing evrything as root if this is important |
11:04.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | now do |
11:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat /etc/init.d/boot.local |
11:04.53 | fw190 | echo: command not found |
11:05.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks |
11:05.57 | fw190 | when I open boot.local |
11:06.13 | fw190 | there is only: |
11:06.33 | fw190 | echo: command not found |
11:06.55 | fw190 | does this matter that home is encrypted? |
11:07.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | fetch last echo line with cursor-up |
11:07.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | remove ">/etc/init.d/boot.local" with backspace |
11:07.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | shoot |
11:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's the result? |
11:08.54 | fw190 | all was left is cat |
11:08.58 | fw190 | after enter |
11:09.01 | fw190 | nothing came up |
11:09.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | wut? |
11:09.51 | fw190 | I do not understand this: fetch last echo line with cursor-up |
11:10.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | press cursor-up key until last line starting with "echo" shows up |
11:10.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks a bit more |
11:11.02 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this: cnf echo |
11:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | and probably now nothing works at all and you don't even have a prompt anymore, right? |
11:11.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | your fucking PATH is not set correctly |
11:12.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I have no damn clue what you did to get |
11:12.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-03 13:00:55] <fw190> the output of echo test |
11:12.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-03 13:00:58] <fw190> is test |
11:12.38 | fw190 | ? |
11:12.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | while the output of echo "someothershit" is echo: cmd not found |
11:13.29 | fw190 | that is the point |
11:13.36 | fw190 | clean open suse with lxde |
11:13.54 | fw190 | the first point of setting it up |
11:13.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you can't copy&paste two complete consecutive lines here, without any added comments or removed linebreaks, i can't help any furhter |
11:14.00 | fw190 | was stoping the disc spining down |
11:14.08 | fw190 | as I did 3 times in last year |
11:14.12 | fw190 | and all worked |
11:15.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | please type(!): |
11:15.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | /bin/bash |
11:15.57 | fw190 | http://tinypic.com/r/5kowsz/5 |
11:16.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't help me |
11:17.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | try to damn highlight the two lines with mouse, and paste them here, or on http://privatepaste.com |
11:17.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | but honestly, this been way more than 2 minutes now |
11:18.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels more like 2 hours |
11:18.37 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # /bin/bash |
11:18.50 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # |
11:19.00 | fw190 | the command and the output |
11:19.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | fine |
11:19.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | now type: |
11:19.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/bin/echo $PATH |
11:19.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | and paste the both lines here |
11:19.56 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # /usr/bin/echo $PATH |
11:21.24 | fw190 | the output |
11:21.32 | fw190 | doesnt want to paste here so I put it ther |
11:21.38 | fw190 | http://privatepaste.com/e4b07330ba |
11:22.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | here you need to add a second / at start of line |
11:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | or a space |
11:22.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | type: |
11:23.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/bin/which echo |
11:24.04 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # /usr/bin/which echo |
11:24.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | / |
11:24.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | // |
11:24.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually |
11:25.08 | fw190 | http://privatepaste.com/9edc83c66e |
11:25.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
11:25.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
11:25.27 | fw190 | I'm on web irc and adding a space or ?? doesn't allow me to paste it |
11:25.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | weird |
11:26.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | add a fuckwebirc at beginning of line |
11:26.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | please type: |
11:26.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo test |
11:26.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and paste the both lines here |
11:26.51 | fw190 | <PROTECTED> |
11:27.12 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo test |
11:27.23 | fw190 | test |
11:27.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | please type: |
11:27.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
11:27.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | and paste the both lines here |
11:28.10 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
11:28.26 | fw190 | If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this: cnf echo |
11:28.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMG |
11:29.16 | fw190 | I agree - maybe I will try to install it again or use another distro like lubuntu |
11:29.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're aware that in "echo test" and "echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 2...." it's both times same command called "echo"? |
11:29.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | please type: |
11:29.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "test" |
11:30.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | and paste the both lines here |
11:30.42 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "test" |
11:30.52 | fw190 | test |
11:31.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | now I think i'm dreaming |
11:31.17 | fw190 | I can paste you the terminal ;) |
11:31.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | please type: |
11:31.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/test" |
11:31.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | and paste the both lines here |
11:32.03 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/test" |
11:32.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsckwebirc |
11:32.35 | fw190 | fckwebirc /test |
11:33.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm" |
11:34.00 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm" |
11:34.18 | fw190 | fuck /sbin/hdparm |
11:34.23 | fw190 | ;) |
11:34.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
11:34.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev" |
11:35.26 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev" |
11:35.40 | fw190 | .... /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev |
11:35.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
11:36.18 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
11:36.28 | fw190 | ... /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda |
11:36.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-03 13:28:10] <fw190> linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" |
11:36.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-03 13:28:26] <fw190> If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this: cnf echo |
11:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | [ |
11:37.30 | fw190 | so now it worked? |
11:37.35 | fw190 | I do not understand |
11:38.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're sure you haven't inserted unprintable chars into your commandline? |
11:38.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | like ctrl-v or whatever |
11:39.16 | fw190 | at which point? |
11:39.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, maybe you should retry: |
11:39.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >/etc/init.d/boot.local |
11:40.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | at NO point!# |
11:40.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | c&p from wbeirc most likely is a poor idea |
11:40.56 | fw190 | before I mess again |
11:41.07 | fw190 | what does this mean: at NO point!# |
11:41.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | there might be such hidden chars |
11:41.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | this means you must not press ctrl-v or any other keys |
11:41.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | just type what you read here |
11:41.50 | fw190 | Ok I have copied |
11:41.58 | fw190 | it to a notepad |
11:42.04 | fw190 | and will put it form there |
11:42.13 | fw190 | ah |
11:42.14 | fw190 | ok |
11:42.16 | fw190 | I will type it |
11:42.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | how hard can it be to press cursor-up to get last line, then add >/etc/init.d/boot.local |
11:44.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | either that works now, or not. anyway I'm afk. sorry |
11:45.07 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >/etc/init.d/boot.local |
11:45.19 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # |
11:45.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat /etc/init.d/boot.local |
11:46.15 | fw190 | linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # cat /etc/init.d/boot.local |
11:46.26 | fw190 | ... /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda |
11:46.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | congrats |
11:46.48 | fw190 | reboot and test? |
11:48.22 | fw190 | thank you for your time |
11:48.26 | fw190 | I will reboot |
11:48.35 | fw190 | and try to figure out why it worked now |
11:55.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | GOD, 90 minutes |
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12:01.32 | fw190 | da fuck less /etc/init.d/boot.local |
12:01.39 | fw190 | shows: /sbin/<U+FEFF>hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda |
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12:02.05 | fw190 | I have not put that U+FEFFF |
12:08.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/feff/index.htm |
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12:10.16 | fw190 | DocScrutinizer05: sory for the 90minutes but as I see no hope I have to go back to buntuk ro debian or something els which will stop this idiotic disc from spinning down |
12:13.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>But every 4-6 months another huge thread on the Unicode List gets started about how bad the BOM is for UTF-8 and how it breaks UNIX tools that have been around and able to support UTF-8 without change for decades2 and about how Microsoft is evil for shipping Notepad that causes all of these problems and how neither the W3C nor Unicode would have ever supported a UTF-8 BOM if Microsoft did not have Notepad doing it, and so on, and |
12:13.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | so on.<< |
12:18.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Believe it or not, unicodeFFFE is actually documented as Internet Explorer's Preferred Charset Label for Unicode (Big-Endian). Periodically people report the name as a bug, since there is no such code point in Unicode as U+fffe. But the reason for the name is that if you look at a BOM of UTF-16 big endian on a system that is little endian, it will look like FFFE. Since that is not a valid character, it is easy to tell on a Little |
12:18.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | Endian system that the file must be Big Endian Unicode. The name is just acting as a sensible (if somewhat platformily provincial) labelling of what one sees on almost 100% of all Windows platforms.<< |
12:20.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | i'd bet fw190 did NOT *type* the commands, rather probably c&p'ed it from some M$-related shit, if only the webirc page |
12:21.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-03 13:41:50] <fw190> Ok I have copied |
12:21.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-03 13:41:58] <fw190> it to a notepad |
12:21.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-03 13:42:03] <fw190> and will put it form there |
12:22.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks a little more, then heads out |
12:22.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ssh via PuTTY or what? |
12:23.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | or a virtualbox under win7? |
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13:56.01 | Pali | merlin1991: cssu-t :-) |
14:14.19 | freemangordon | Pali: he told Friday, I suspect that means Friday evening :) |
14:14.37 | Pali | ok :-) evening |
14:14.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991: no bars and girls for you today :P |
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14:44.17 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I wish |
14:44.26 | merlin1991 | bars are in the realm of possible |
14:44.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm? why the bars are impossible for you? |
14:45.02 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: other way around :D |
14:45.25 | freemangordon | hmm? |
14:45.31 | freemangordon | WTF? |
14:45.39 | merlin1991 | bars are possible, girls are rather hard :) |
14:45.54 | freemangordon | ooh, rabbit never come easy :P |
14:49.57 | merlin1991 | now back to c# :/ |
15:41.10 | Pali | merlin1991: can you delete expiration date on cssu GPG key? |
15:42.20 | Pali | if you can do it before next cssu-t, I can update cssu enabler package (where is stored public part of key) |
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15:45.53 | Pali | merlin1991: do not push last version of modest to cssu-t, but version 3.90.7-11.3 |
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21:10.27 | Pali | merlin1991: you have less then one hour :-) |
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