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08:21.10 | luf | I need to install CSSU-stable 3.0. Any idea how to do that? |
08:23.37 | kerio | ...that's pretty specific |
08:24.04 | kerio | start from stock, install each exact version |
08:27.44 | kerio | installing the 3.0 metapackage won't work |
08:30.54 | luf | kerio: How to easily find the "each exact version"? |
08:46.14 | kerio | luf: apt-cache show mp-fremantle-community-pr |
08:46.22 | kerio | and then go look at the dependencies of the version you want |
08:46.32 | kerio | and then swap every >= for a == in your mind |
08:46.58 | luf | I was affraid you said that :D |
08:47.47 | kerio | luf: to be fair, it's easily automable |
08:48.05 | kerio | luf: note that you might not necessarily get the exact same thing as -Smaemo3 |
08:48.14 | kerio | because dependencies can be pulled in, and they'll default to the latest version |
08:49.56 | pwnguin | u/part |
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08:50.34 | luf | kerio: :( I need exact -Smaemo3 |
08:50.40 | luf | I'll try and I see. |
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09:00.00 | kerio | luf: http://fpaste.org/Eqv5/raw/ something like this |
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09:11.31 | kerio | luf? |
09:13.00 | luf | Yes? |
09:15.57 | kerio | luf: http://fpaste.org/Eqv5/raw/ something like this |
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09:25.00 | luf | kerio: thanks I saw that. |
09:25.34 | luf | I need some mentaly preparation to reflash my dev N900 ;) two N900 is not enough .. |
09:25.52 | kerio | "mental preparation", aka a backup |
09:26.51 | luf | kerio: no backup is needed as it's development machine |
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14:17.39 | freemangordon | merlin1991: -thumb repo download speed sucks :( |
14:17.56 | freemangordon | I am getting between 50 and 100 KB/s |
14:19.11 | kerio | hahaha |
14:19.18 | kerio | poor merlin1991.at, getting hammered |
14:19.44 | freemangordon | yep |
14:31.53 | kerio | merlin1991: buy more bandwidth! |
14:39.03 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: really? |
14:39.06 | merlin1991 | that's odd |
14:39.55 | freemangordon | merlin1991: seems like it is because of mirrors |
14:40.22 | merlin1991 | hm current up speed from the server that is being used is 100Kb&s |
14:40.35 | merlin1991 | s.&./. |
14:42.29 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: upspeed should be awesome theoretically |
14:43.22 | merlin1991 | I'm getting straight 1Mb/s when I dl something |
14:43.33 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: can you try again? |
14:44.20 | freemangordon | merlin1991: not now |
14:53.24 | jonwil | is it safe to use r.m.o at this point? |
14:59.39 | kerio | safe for what? |
15:00.02 | jonwil | as in, is r.m.o stable enough to actually download things from? |
15:03.27 | jonwil | hmm, it seems to be up but VERY slow :P |
15:03.57 | luf | jonwil: yes it is very slow. |
15:06.31 | kerio | jonwil: it shouldn't go down |
15:06.38 | jonwil | good |
15:07.02 | jonwil | currently getting 4.5 kilobits a second speed from rmo |
15:07.11 | jonwil | now its gone right down |
15:07.57 | Pali | merlin1991, look at apt cssu merge request |
15:08.23 | Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991: when will be next cssu meeting? |
15:08.42 | Pali | I have some points for discussion |
15:08.51 | luf | jonwil: It's stalled often here and also 345B/s ,,, |
15:17.10 | jonwil | is it slow because of an issue with r.m.o (and related infrastructure), because so many people are hitting it or both? |
15:20.16 | M4rtinK | I can also report that it is very very VERY slow :) |
15:20.34 | luf | jonwil: No idea. But Docs and one admin hunted something on #maemo channel few hours ago. |
15:20.47 | M4rtinK | and if I am not mistaken, the CSSU repositories are down at the moment ? |
15:20.56 | M4rtinK | at least according to apt-get errors |
15:20.57 | kerio | jonwil: 5% cpu usage, 25Mbps up |
15:21.03 | luf | jonwil: high iowaits ... due to writes |
15:21.09 | kerio | luf: nah |
15:21.18 | kerio | rmo is just pushing 25Mbps |
15:21.28 | kerio | and nemein does some rate-limitation so packets are dropped |
15:21.58 | jonwil | so the answer is what exactly? |
15:22.14 | luf | kerio: ok |
15:22.41 | luf | jonwil: too many boring N900 users today :D |
15:22.47 | kerio | jonwil: keep calm and apt-get |
15:33.51 | luf | kerio: you frozen the jonwil :D |
15:34.04 | kerio | :D |
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15:58.43 | luf | What are the CSSU-stable repostiories? |
15:59.32 | kerio | kinda like the debian stable repositories |
16:00.16 | luf | kerio: I want to install CSSU-stable 3.0 if you remember. So I can't install it the usual way :( |
16:00.56 | kerio | heh |
16:01.02 | kerio | just use a mirror |
16:01.16 | kerio | deb http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org/community/ fremantle free non-free |
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17:12.01 | Pali | merlin1991: ping |
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18:25.49 | warfare | rmo should work but very very slowly. |
18:31.10 | kerio | warfare: the issue is that sometimes it's so slow that the timeout kicks in |
18:31.56 | kerio | warfare: btw, can't we cheat and use coral? |
18:33.41 | warfare | kerio: apt on maemo has http redirects disabled. |
18:33.49 | kerio | :( |
18:35.27 | warfare | I could set up a varnish on my server and then point repository.maemo.org to my ip. But I don't know, who has access to the DNS. |
18:35.39 | kerio | hm, so the only thing we could do would be to change the DNS aDAMMIT |
18:35.56 | kerio | warfare: hm, are you sure you've got enough bandwidth? |
18:36.01 | kerio | bandwidth/traffic i mean |
18:36.42 | kerio | i think that nokia still controls the domain |
18:36.45 | kerio | and the dns |
18:37.01 | kerio | maemo.org.21600INNSns.nokia.com. |
18:37.09 | kerio | shakes his fist at elop |
18:43.24 | warfare | hm, my server at hetzner has around 5T and the one at ovh uses around 2 of its 5T/month. |
18:43.52 | kerio | =D |
18:44.29 | warfare | the ovh box hosts a podcast for a friend and a closed music archive, hence the traffic. |
18:49.08 | kerio | gregoa: are you around? i have a question to you regarding dist-upgrade |
18:49.19 | kerio | warfare: ask DocScrutinizer, i suppose |
18:50.13 | kerio | warfare: also, it would end up being 270T/day, wouldn't it |
18:51.18 | warfare | I'm looking at cloudflare at the moment. ;) |
18:51.54 | kerio | does cloudflare work without redirects? |
18:52.18 | warfare | Yes, but it needs a DNS change. |
18:52.31 | kerio | i figured - *something* must call it |
18:52.55 | kerio | doesn't it cost a lot? |
18:53.24 | warfare | the basic one is free. |
18:53.40 | warfare | the pro costs 20$/month. |
18:54.03 | kerio | wow |
18:54.11 | kerio | do they not pay for bandwidth, in some way? |
18:54.58 | warfare | I think they just have enough. |
18:55.16 | kerio | "100% uptime guarantee" suuuuuuure |
18:55.19 | warfare | And they make probably enough money with their business and enterprise customers. |
18:56.32 | warfare | 2 hours edge cache expiry - which is good for our case. |
18:56.47 | luf | warfare: I'm ready to change /etc/hosts ;) |
18:57.01 | kerio | luf: nope |
18:57.09 | kerio | /etc/hosts can't do CNAMEs |
18:57.34 | luf | kerio: ?? Why do I need CNAME? |
18:57.45 | kerio | luf: cloudflare isn't *one* server |
18:58.14 | luf | kerio: I can use just one of their servers. |
18:59.02 | kerio | warfare: it's fair to say that our body is ready |
19:00.19 | warfare | cloudflare wants to take over your dns ;) |
19:01.02 | kerio | hold on, do they? |
19:01.07 | luf | warfare: pitty |
19:01.09 | kerio | i thought you just had to set a CNAME |
19:01.17 | kerio | i doubt nokia will approve such a radical move |
19:01.53 | warfare | I think so. |
19:01.56 | warfare | bummer. |
19:03.34 | kerio | warfare: well, we only need a subdomain |
19:05.53 | kerio | warfare: apparently there's some kind of beta service that uses CNAMEs |
19:05.57 | kerio | but it's only for paid customers |
19:16.31 | luf | incapsula has 50GB/month limit |
19:19.35 | kerio | will cloudflare accept to be the nameserver for a subdomain only? i couldn't find anything about it on the website |
19:22.54 | luf | kerio: maemo.org is subdomain of org ;) So it doesn't matter what level of domain is used ;) |
19:24.44 | kerio | 'yes, we'd like to start using cloudflare on our domain, it's "com". do you think we'll need an enterprise plan for it?' |
19:40.54 | luf | kerio: (cssu stable): E: Version '0.7.20.2maemo13.2+0cssu1' for 'apt' was not found |
19:41.08 | luf | kerio: My fault. |
19:41.19 | kerio | ? |
19:41.45 | luf | I'm watching Davis cup ... SUI x CZE 5. set and 22:21 ... |
19:42.04 | luf | Never ending story. I forget to add cssu stable repo |
19:42.10 | kerio | :D |
19:44.18 | luf | 7 hours of tenis ... it's begin to be boring ... |
19:45.42 | luf | We win! |
19:47.13 | kerio | /whoises luf to figure out his nationality |
19:47.23 | kerio | yay cz |
19:47.28 | luf | W: Failed to fetch http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org/community/dists/fremantle/non-free/binary-armel/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 37.59.41.108 80] |
19:47.35 | kerio | madness |
19:47.41 | kerio | try using skeiron |
19:47.54 | luf | ~skeiron |
19:48.01 | kerio | skeiron.org/repo/community/ |
20:09.05 | luf | It doesn't work for me neither :( |
20:09.53 | thedead1440 | luf did you check the url? Its supposed to be: http://skeiron.org/repo/repository.maemo.org/community/ |
20:10.07 | luf | BTW it seems there is no non-free :) |
20:10.10 | kerio | whoops |
20:10.19 | luf | thedead1440: I also tried this. |
20:10.46 | thedead1440 | gives a hashsum mismatch? |
20:10.49 | kerio | luf: use merlin1991's apt-mirror community thingy |
20:10.57 | kerio | maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/community |
20:12.15 | luf | thedead1440: no I can't scroll now. MMNT |
20:14.39 | luf | 99% [10 Translation-cs gzip 0] [Waiting for headers]gzip: invalid magic |
20:14.40 | luf | Ign http://skeiron.org fremantle/non-free Translation-cs |
20:14.48 | luf | But there is no non-free |
20:15.16 | kerio | luf: use merlin's |
20:16.26 | luf | I see but it doesn't help with: E: Version '3.90.7-9' for 'modest' was not found |
20:16.38 | luf | http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/community/pool/fremantle/free/m/modest/ |
20:17.01 | luf | So I'm not able to install older cssu stable :( |
20:17.59 | kerio | :( |
20:18.05 | kerio | why do you need the older cssu stable? |
20:20.51 | luf | I want to reproduce one obexd error (reported by pinochio on TMO) |
20:21.25 | kerio | tell him to update |
20:25.22 | arcean_ | IIRC pinochio uses the latest stable cssu |
20:31.42 | luf | kerio: cssu-s 3 doesn't have issue with obexd 0.46. But newer cssu-s has the issue. |
20:32.03 | luf | I tried to imagine what is the difference :( |
20:32.04 | kerio | ...so check the changes in obexd and bluez |
20:32.11 | luf | kerio: no change |
20:32.21 | kerio | what's the problem? |
20:32.39 | luf | kerio: stop working OPP profile which I didn't touched. |
20:32.55 | kerio | OPP? |
20:33.07 | luf | I go through the cssu-s changelog and see no relevant change :( |
20:33.25 | luf | kerio: push files |
20:33.40 | luf | kerio: It's send file ... functionality |
20:33.59 | luf | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59114 |
20:34.10 | kerio | he probably started noticing the problem after -Smaemo3 |
20:34.32 | luf | Yes. |
20:37.34 | arcean_ | luf: ohh crap, there's another person with this problem on Polish forum |
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20:38.27 | luf | arcean_: It's like a ghost. |
20:38.45 | arcean_ | luf: they said, they noticed the problem after this upgrade: http://fpaste.org/vMsx/ |
20:38.53 | luf | Is the polish guy able to better describe the situation? |
20:39.27 | arcean_ | I'll email him |
20:39.47 | luf | arcean_: And what problem he faced? |
20:40.42 | luf | arcean: can you send me a link to polish forum? |
20:41.06 | arcean_ | luf: he's not able to send files via bluetooth to his notebook with windows7 |
20:41.08 | arcean_ | ie |
20:41.28 | arcean_ | since stable 4.1 only original nokia obexd is working |
20:41.42 | luf | That's sound like pinochio :) |
20:41.53 | luf | * That sounds ... |
20:42.48 | arcean_ | yeah, pretty much :) |
20:43.23 | luf | arcean: can you send me a link to the polish forum? |
20:43.49 | arcean_ | sure, http://meegoforum.pl/post4539.html#p4539 |
20:43.59 | arcean_ | pinochio and kownas users :) |
20:44.37 | luf | arcean_: BTW the update you send in pastebin is from testing ... |
20:45.35 | arcean_ | then I have nfc what cssu version he has on device :) |
20:46.41 | luf | arcean_: the pulseaudio update is mine ;) And AFAIK isn't in stable still. |
20:48.13 | arcean_ | maybe his Win7 is screwed ? :D |
20:48.26 | arcean_ | hmm |
20:49.04 | arcean_ | ok, tomorrow I'm going to check this with win7 and win8 PCs |
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20:50.42 | luf | arcean: It seems to me that it's using L2CAP (as usually RFCOMM). |
20:51.11 | luf | But I don't understand why it stops working :( CSSU-S 4.1: * Recompiled thumb binaries as non-thumb |
20:53.22 | luf | arcean: Also noone report this issue with testing :( |
20:53.37 | luf | Except pinochio (for sure) |
20:53.59 | arcean_ | and the second guy (kownas) |
20:54.29 | arcean_ | but as I said earlier, I think it's more about Windows than cssu/obexd/whatever else :D |
20:55.23 | luf | arcean_: I'm affraid it's not ... The same problem is with newer bluez :( |
20:56.51 | luf | arcean_: the problem is with widcomm bluetooth stack on win side. |
20:57.23 | arcean_ | hmm |
20:57.41 | arcean_ | then why it works with old nokia obexd |
20:58.26 | luf | arcean_: There is no L2CAP support for OPP ;) |
20:58.37 | luf | But I'm not sure. |
20:59.16 | wumpwoast | Hey, has anyone made dummy icd connections that tie into wpasupplicant? |
20:59.38 | wumpwoast | trying to get cisco leap wpa-enterprise working, and nokia's normal wireless profiles don't support it |
20:59.41 | wumpwoast | but wpasupplicant does |
20:59.52 | kerio | how would DUMMY fix that? |
21:00.21 | wumpwoast | I presumed a dummy profile could maybe call a script that calls wpasupplican |
21:00.59 | kerio | i'm not sure libicd-network-null has something for that |
21:01.13 | kerio | can't you do something similar with ifup.d? |
21:01.43 | wumpwoast | does bringing an int online with ifup.d send the relevant events so you see the little "wireless" icon as online? |
21:02.18 | kerio | wumpwoast: no, i mean that you'd get ICD2 to connect to the network, and then you run wpasupplicant from a script in ifup.d, if the ssid matches |
21:02.37 | kerio | i'm not sure if it would work, i have no idea of how wpasupplicant works and when it should work |
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21:03.54 | wumpwoast | kerio: if ifup.d scripts run when you touch the proper network icon, then this might be worth trying |
21:04.00 | wumpwoast | appreciate the help! |
21:05.24 | kerio | wumpwoast: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2109498 this is my /etc/network/if-up.d/50_wifi_autologin |
21:05.38 | kerio | but i don't know when wpa_supplicant is supposed to run |
21:05.49 | kerio | this is after dhcp has kicked in |
21:07.40 | wumpwoast | wpasupplicant needs to run pre-dhcp. So your idea likely works if I use an if-pre-up.d script |
21:07.54 | kerio | ooh, probably! |
21:07.55 | kerio | neat |
21:08.01 | wumpwoast | the order goes: iwconfig essid, wpasupplicant, dhcp. |
21:08.30 | kerio | wumpwoast: also, look at the other scripts too, to figure out how to get values from the networking UI and stuff |
21:08.34 | kerio | if you want/need them |
21:09.14 | wumpwoast | for some reason I didn't think icd hooked into the /etc/network scripts. Very happy that it does :) |
21:18.38 | kerio | wumpwoast: having a UI for wpa enterprise would be better |
21:18.55 | kerio | dammit, where's jonwil when you need him |
21:19.08 | kerio | wumpwoast: do those networks appear in the list as wpa networks? |
21:19.45 | luf | pali, freemangordon: where is KP git? |
21:20.00 | Pali | luf, on garage |
21:20.04 | Pali | or on cssu gitorious |
21:20.13 | Pali | s/or/and/ |
21:20.54 | luf | There is kernel-cssu on cssu gitorious ... |
21:21.14 | Pali | see kernel-power branch |
21:21.23 | luf | Ahh, ok. thanks. |
21:23.08 | luf | Pali: are there some bluetooth patches? |
21:23.32 | kerio | wumpwoast: it's a good enough conversation for the public channel :) |
21:23.47 | kerio | wumpwoast: what does the password you put in do? |
21:24.39 | Pali | luf, yes |
21:24.46 | luf | Pali: hmmm you touched l2cap and we have problems with l2cap :) Maybe it's not coincident ... :D |
21:25.22 | luf | merlin1991: ping |
21:26.01 | wumpwoast | kerio: not sure what you mean. I configure my password in the setup screen |
21:26.23 | wumpwoast | it tries to connect for a little while and then I get a "failed to connect" message |
21:26.31 | kerio | wumpwoast: yeah but the password is used to... connect to the network as if it's a wpa-personal network? |
21:26.39 | kerio | should there even be a password request there? |
21:27.03 | wumpwoast | no, this would be back to an auth server of some kind (radius probably) |
21:27.30 | kerio | i'm not sure if running wpa_supplicant after it's been ran by ICD2 (presumably) would work |
21:27.38 | kerio | but hey, you might as well try |
21:27.51 | luf | Pali: did you test bluetooth-fix-potential-bad-memory-access-with-sysfs-files.diff somehow? |
21:27.51 | wumpwoast | I tried running wpa_supplicant, looking for an online event in dbus-scripts |
21:27.53 | wumpwoast | and that didn't work |
21:28.15 | wumpwoast | it saw the event and appeared to run wpa_supplicant but... no dice. |
21:29.00 | kerio | wumpwoast: well, wpa_supplicant is also used for wpa-personal, right? |
21:29.22 | kerio | and it appears that libicd-network-wlan doesn't have source :( |
21:29.24 | wumpwoast | for the normal nokia icd connections? no... |
21:29.39 | wumpwoast | n900's wpa stuff does not seem to use wpasupplicant |
21:30.16 | wumpwoast | i've used wpasupplicant for wpa-personal on n900, but normal nokia icd works fine for that purpose. :) |
21:30.44 | kerio | wumpwoast: well, you can still make yourself a script that does iwconfig, wpasupplicant, dhcpc, route |
21:30.57 | kerio | and then run the DUMMY network so maemo apps are happy |
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21:31.03 | Pali | luf, that patch was backported by freemangordon |
21:31.07 | Pali | luf, ask freemangordon |
21:31.28 | wumpwoast | kerio: that's precisely my goal. if icd thinks it's online so I can start skype, then I'm happy |
21:31.50 | kerio | hoooooooooold on |
21:32.13 | kerio | apparently you can just set up a wpa enterprise network |
21:32.23 | kerio | feels dumb |
21:32.36 | wumpwoast | yes, but that doesn't seem to work with cisco leap wireless :( |
21:33.11 | wumpwoast | it works on other wpa-enterprise infrastructure, but not the cisco stuff I have now. |
21:33.43 | kerio | "Cisco itself is phasing out LEAP due to weaknesses found in its security model. Therefore Maemo has no plans to support it." |
21:33.44 | kerio | FUCKING NOKIA |
21:33.52 | WizardNumberNext | wumpwoast: sell cisco, get something normal, become rich man |
21:34.05 | luf | Pali: can you help me if the patch is also in kernel-cssu? I'm a little bit lost. |
21:34.10 | kerio | wumpwoast: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3655 |
21:34.12 | povbot | Bug 3655: EAP-LEAP (Cisco) not supported |
21:34.43 | wumpwoast | which is why I'm out in the weeds messing with wpasupplicant :) |
21:35.08 | kerio | \_o_/ |
21:35.12 | wumpwoast | WizardNumberNext: heart is warmed. :) |
21:35.31 | kerio | anyway, libicd-network-null will let you make a fake connection so that maemo apps are happy |
21:35.32 | luf | freemangordon: ping |
21:35.43 | kerio | in the meantime, you configure the ip stack as you'd like |
21:35.47 | luf | kerio: same as dummy ;) |
21:36.03 | kerio | i don't think there's a way to make dummy/null run a script when you connect - it would be neat, though |
21:36.31 | Pali | luf, I do not know |
21:36.39 | WizardNumberNext | I use real coputer for 802.11g serving (two networks) and I am quite sure, that it is much cheaper, then cheapest CISCO you can find |
21:36.44 | Pali | look at git history |
21:37.57 | kerio | WizardNumberNext: technically linksys is cisco now |
21:38.57 | WizardNumberNext | kerio: technically liksys works and is much cheaper; technically my server is PentherSolutions now! |
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21:39.08 | wumpwoast | appreciate the help guys. I'll poke my head in once I've got scripts and documentation for this that are tested/working. |
21:41.16 | luf | Pali: I see KP commits in master branch so I'm not able to identify if it's in kernel-cssu or not :( Any hint? |
21:41.42 | Pali | luf, last commit in master branch is merge from kernel-power |
21:41.48 | Pali | look at previous commits |
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21:50.11 | merlin1991 | luf Pali pong |
21:51.00 | luf | merlin1991: do you remember the bluez-4.99 environment you prepared for me? |
21:51.07 | merlin1991 | yes |
21:51.12 | merlin1991 | atm it's not ready though |
21:51.18 | luf | What kernel is there? |
21:51.20 | merlin1991 | (because I'm not at home) |
21:51.24 | merlin1991 | stock |
21:51.50 | luf | merlin1991: Isn't there cssu or kp? |
21:53.00 | Pali | merlin1991, look: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/apt/merge_requests/1 |
21:59.45 | merlin1991 | luf: nope |
22:00.15 | merlin1991 | Pali: I'll look into it (if it's still the same, and if yes push it) |
22:00.56 | Pali | merlin1991, when will be next cssu meeting? |
22:01.52 | Pali | merlin1991, also look at this merge request: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/gtk/merge_requests/2 |
22:01.52 | luf | merlin1991: you killed my last hope :D |
22:02.18 | Pali | which contains unreleased nokia fixes |
22:04.17 | Pali | merlin1991, problem is that I cannot test that gtk patches, because my qemu in scratchobx crashing |
22:04.27 | Pali | and I'm unable to compile gtk in scratchbox :-( |
22:04.46 | merlin1991 | I'll try it |
22:04.56 | merlin1991 | luf: tbh I'm not really sure |
22:05.00 | merlin1991 | I can check when I get back home |
22:24.21 | arcean_ | Pali: I've pushed new gtk with those patches |
22:24.43 | arcean_ | and so far everything's ok |
22:25.02 | Pali | arcean_, so compilation worked? |
22:25.05 | arcean_ | Pali: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/g/gtk%2b2.0/ |
22:25.09 | arcean_ | yes |
22:25.47 | arcean_ | Pali: clean fremantle scratchbox env |
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22:35.37 | luf | merlin1991: I'll appreciate it |
22:47.18 | luf | merlin1991: however if you find some time can you test also: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1320243&postcount=503 |
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