IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20130115

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07:10.00freemangordonkerio: a couple of packages in -thumb, you may want to upgrade
07:42.02keriofreemangordon: holy upgrades batman
07:42.26freemangordon:)
07:42.53kerioi'm probably seeing more than usual, from -devel
07:43.01freemangordonkerio: disable it
07:43.04kerioor did you upgrade everything?
07:43.18freemangordonmicrob,qt,h-d and PA
07:44.18freemangordon(though I will have to issue one more h-d update as arcean pushed a commit in h-d 2 hours after I uploaded it in the repo)
07:45.18keriooh, then it's ok
07:45.22freemangordonhowever, arcean has left an eastern egg in h-d, portrait lock actually works :D:D:D
07:45.48keriowait, i'm away from a computer, why am i updating
07:46.04freemangordonkerio: why do you need a computer?
07:52.17keriobackups
07:53.21kerioand battery
07:58.19freemangordonbackups,backups... you don't need them :P
08:08.56keriobackupped
08:09.03kerioare you going to push the update?
08:15.34keriofreemangordon:
08:41.08keriofreemangordon: updated, didn't blow up
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09:00.06freemangordonkerio: I'll wait h-d and gvfs-extra development to cease first
09:00.31freemangordonalso I think we have a lenghty discussion on orientation lock applet
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10:49.27freemangordonarcean: do you plan more updates to h-d for now?
10:49.37freemangordonBTW great job :)
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10:57.14luffreemangordon: I see only 2 BT devices in the log ...
10:58.26luffreemangordon: I also think more about dynamic device loading and there is problem that Bluetooth entry is only shown when there is at least on BT device ... Also preloading is a problem as I don't want activate BT when you enter filemanager ...
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11:24.35freemangordonluf: yep, it happens with only 2 devices too
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11:37.27arceanfreemangordon: no, version 2.2.149 is ready to release
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12:19.39luffreemangordon: maybe range problem. I have 2 devices where one is down and I don't see such problem. I'll check it once more.
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12:24.37jonwilhi
13:00.37freemangordonjonwil: hi
13:01.06freemangordonluf: could be, though the devices were sitting on the table with 20 mc of distance :D
13:02.34jonwilStill trying to decide what to investigate next, current top candidate is the mess that is ICD
13:47.48freemangordonarcean: i'll bump the version in debian/changelog a bit (to -10), do you mind
13:47.50freemangordon?
13:48.24freemangordonoops, to .150
14:16.47arceanfreemangordon: if there's no change in sources, bump only the package version ie make it 2.2.149-2
14:17.57luffreemangordon: log says it clearly: Jan 14 17:59:25 Nokia-N900 bluetoothd[990]: Unable to get service record: Host is down (112) (and the line one below with BDA = BT MAC)
14:18.14freemangordonarcean: you pushed one more commit
14:18.30freemangordonarcean: but ok, i'll add -2 (for exampe)
14:18.45arceanfreemangordon: yes, but under 149 badge :P
14:19.08freemangordonarcean: yes, but that was after I uploaded it in -thumb repo :D
14:19.08luffreemangordon: add -thumb instead of -2 ? :D
14:19.19arceanfreemangordon: :D
14:20.06freemangordonluf: could do that too
14:20.07arceanlets say if there's no tag in repo for new version, then it's not finished
14:20.25freemangordonarcean: ok, will remember for the future :)
14:20.42arceanfreemangordon: ok :)
14:21.38luffreemangordon: what is BDA for the device which is wrongly ignored?
14:22.15arceanor maybe I should use 2.2.149~1 when it's unreleased and change it to 2.2.149-1 when it's ready?
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14:31.47freemangordonluf: A8:7B:39:XX:XX:XX
14:32.34lufYeah this is reported as Host is donw.
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14:41.18freemangordonluf: but it was up, with HF attached (iirc)
14:54.24lufMaybe that's the problem.
14:55.00luffreemangordon: can you try it with HF disconnected?
14:55.34lufI have no idea because this is returned from bluez. I don't think it's osso-gnomevfs-extra related (I should be wrong about it).
15:27.07luffreemangordon: just curious - are you using stock bluez (4.60)?
15:31.14freemangordonstock
15:31.49freemangordonluf: well, could be some intefernce with wifi
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17:00.48freemangordonaapo: zeq tried to do that, it (glibc) compiles, but there was some problem with l18n iirc
17:01.27aapofreemangordon: installing it to the device or running or linking against it?
17:01.52freemangordonaapo: i know it will bring some speed benefit, but I am afraid i'll break something :D
17:02.00freemangordonaapo: when installed on the device
17:02.17freemangordonthere was no translation, according to zeq
17:02.44aapoI will test
17:03.08freemangordoni.e. instead of "phone" you got some "oc_li_phone_ui" (I withdraw that from the air, but you got the idea)
17:03.34freemangordonaapo: great, feel free to ask if anything
17:03.56freemangordonaapo: BTW i'd always prefer IRC over TMO for such discussions ;)
17:04.42freemangordonaapo: IIRC you were the one to build newer glibc, ain't?
17:04.54aapofreemangordon: yes
17:05.21freemangordonwhat was the problem with it, some apps not working?
17:05.30aapoI'm currently working with glib-2.35.3
17:05.39freemangordon"working"?
17:05.44aapowrong paste
17:05.50freemangordonit is installed on your device?
17:06.29aapowe tried glibc from meego, but didn't get it to boot on device
17:07.07aaponow I'm hacking with libglib as it seems easier
17:07.33freemangordonany clue why? did you try to copy it in /opt/somedir and do LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/somedir xterm?
17:07.42freemangordonfor example
17:07.51freemangordonto see if there are some missing symbols
17:08.25aapoI don't remember, I will search from my logs
17:08.42freemangordonwell, it is not so important
17:09.03freemangordonif we are to upgrade libc, i'd rather take the one from debian or ubuntu
17:09.37freemangordonmeego/harm stuff is usually tailored too much
17:09.46freemangordon(afaik)
17:12.12aapoI think same. My utopia is to get rid as much Nokia stuff and go more close to debian
17:13.25freemangordonaapo: actually we are slowly getting there, (read libcurl, libpng, zlib, etc.). though our biggest and for now unsolvable problem is PA
17:14.04aapodo you think two more eyes will help?
17:14.36freemangordondo you ask if we need developers in CSSU? elaborate please.
17:16.45aapoI meant for PA, but of course in general I would like to hear more about goals os CSSU
17:18.03freemangordonaapo: well, the goal(as I get them) is to keep fremantle and n900 alive for as long as possible. upgrading whatever is possible and is making sense in the meantime.
17:18.10freemangordon*goals
17:18.58aaposo if (one day) it is possible upgrade and recompile every package of maemo5, cssu will do it
17:19.01freemangordonhave in mind this is not necessarily what the maintainre(s) think :D
17:19.30freemangordonaapo: where it was the last time you've checked CSSU repo on gitorious?
17:20.52aapofreemangordon: I think there are now more repositories than when I last checked
17:22.23freemangordonyep :). at least 4 of them are upstream versions (excluding here the stuff like h-d where we're the upstream)
17:22.32aaponow I also see that there are 5 commits more for glibc than what I got with apt-get source
17:23.06freemangordonaapo: yep. gcc intrinstics are backported
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21:01.51DocScrutinizer05anybody got that friggin link from N950?
21:20.30freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: none of us afaik. just request it, i guess you'll receive the link
21:20.59DocScrutinizer05would need to use tmo PM, I honestly hate it like the plague
21:21.59freemangordonpost on TMO for someone who has it to PM/MAIL it to you
21:22.20DocScrutinizer05If anybody likes me to get that file and host it 'somewhere', send me some data in a /query
21:23.13freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: though I bet Pali has it already :D
21:23.28DocScrutinizer05that's why I asked here :-)
21:24.47DocScrutinizer05I think it shouldn't vanish in oblivion and bitrot on somebody's private HDD
21:25.33arceanhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1315257&postcount=193
21:25.41arcean:P
21:26.09freemangordonwhat was the bet for? :D:D:D
21:27.02arceanhehe
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21:27.57arceanfreemangordon: do you remember why it's here? https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/mb/hd-dialog.c#line190
21:28.18DocScrutinizer05doesn't sound good nevertheless, I thought it been about src, not image
21:29.06freemangordonarcean: to disable rotation for dialogs in task navigator which parent does not support portrait
21:29.22arceanfreemangordon: sometimes this IF statement is true for portrait dialogs so they're not visible
21:29.24freemangordoni.e. has some atom set
21:30.07freemangordonarcean: && hd_task_navigator_get_disable_portrait(client)
21:30.15arceanfor example, when you want to call someone from the Telephone app
21:30.43arceanyou get only blured background without a dialog with buttons to call him
21:30.47freemangordonarcean: got it, seems the atom does not get removed
21:30.58freemangordonarcean: yep, saw that today
21:32.15freemangordonarcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/home/hd-task-navigator.c#line4584
21:32.20freemangordonthat atom
21:33.01arceanyeah
21:33.09arceanthat makes sense
21:33.27freemangordonseems hd_task_navigator_set_disable_portrait(False) does not get called when it should be
21:33.41freemangordonmaybe on exit from tasknav, IDK
21:33.49arceanI hope so
21:33.54arcean:)
21:34.31freemangordoni.e. iterate (or keep a list of windows which had this atom set) and remove it on exit from tasknav
21:35.24freemangordonarcean: you did a lot of changes since i wrote that code, it was written some year (or more) ago :)
21:36.12arceanit drives me mad since a couple of months :P
21:36.20arceanand it's hard to reproduce
21:36.39freemangordonI see
21:36.52freemangordonabyway, check where hd_task_navigator_set_disable_portrait is called
21:37.00freemangordon*anyway
21:38.14freemangordonarcean: here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/home/hd-task-navigator.c#line4098
21:38.41freemangordonarcean: or even better here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/home/hd-task-navigator.c#line2605
21:42.54freemangordonarcean: or simply add && STATE_IS_TASKNAV(hd_render_manager_get_state()
21:43.08freemangordonhmm, I like ^^^ more
21:44.11freemangordonarcean: as it is better to have the correct atom set when entering tasknav
21:48.30arceanok, I'll check how it behaves now
21:48.47freemangordonarcean: you've changed if() ?
21:48.57arceanwhich one?
21:49.10freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/mb/hd-dialog.c#line190
21:49.14freemangordonthat one
21:49.40arceanwith "&& STATE_IS_TASKNAV(hd_render_manager_get_state()" ?
21:49.45freemangordonyep
21:50.18arceanhmm currently I have this as a workaround :P
21:50.38freemangordonhehe. why workaround, this is the correct fix
21:50.48freemangordonIMO
21:50.49arceanbut if it's about task navigator atom, it should be correct
21:50.51arceanyes ;)
21:51.24freemangordonwasn't there STATE_IS_TASKNAV_PORTRAIT()?
21:51.43arceannope
21:52.39freemangordonoh, I meant - I think there is such macro defined, so you can use it instead of STATE_IS_PORTRAIT() && STATE_IS_TASKNAV()
21:52.50freemangordonbut, well, both will do the job
22:04.37arceanfreemangordon: fixed :)
22:04.51freemangordonarcean: good, push it :D
22:05.15arceansure :D
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22:22.22merlin1991hey guys
22:22.26merlin1991anything you need from me? :D
22:22.34merlin1991I have a rare 30 mins to 1 hr atm :D
22:24.12keriomerlin1991: gimme a million euros
22:25.11freemangordonmerlin1991: Can't think of anything I need right now :).
22:25.27merlin1991kerio: I can possibly five you a million internetz ;)
22:26.08keriogood enough, five them to me
22:39.11freemangordondammit, this build is endless :(
22:39.29merlin1991freemangordon: sounds like qt xD
22:39.42freemangordonmuch worse
22:39.51merlin1991libc? openssl?
22:39.56freemangordonlatest mozilla with romaxa's ipclite interface
22:40.09merlin1991xD
22:40.17arceanlol
22:40.32arceanhates building fennec :D
22:40.51arceanmy PC even more :)
22:40.58freemangordonthe one from here https://wiki.mozilla.org/Embedding/IPCLiteAPI#Build_instructions:
22:41.57freemangordonall 4 cores used. ~1.5 hours now

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