| 00:00.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: hard to blame those 0.5th level help desk robots |
| 00:00.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: unless I have some hard facts to slap them with |
| 00:02.47 | ShadowJK | Basically the modem hides their buggy network config |
| 00:02.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: but yeah, it kinda explains the behavior when I assume >>DHCP doesn't work for new lease on 2G, while handing over an existing lease from 3G works" |
| 00:04.07 | ShadowJK | I suspect dhcp isn't really relevant |
| 00:04.45 | ShadowJK | like, I've never seen a dhcp request or refresh in 3g-2g-3g transitions |
| 00:04.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | who however is the culprit for DHCP not working on 2G, that's still up to anybody's guess. Particularly since during last years I found 2G recovering from such lockup when I reboot the device |
| 00:05.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, it could as well be something around APN sign-in |
| 00:05.52 | ShadowJK | dhclient or dhcp overall is probably not at all involved at any stage of a cellular connection |
| 00:06.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | errr, how would ICD2 resp dnsmasq know about the device's IP then? |
| 00:06.40 | ShadowJK | "dhcp not working" is hard to tell apart from "connection is not working at all" unless you've got access to both ends |
| 00:07.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all I config my GPRS DHCP in connections-advanced |
| 00:08.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *could* |
| 00:09.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | "get IP automatically" and "get DNS automatically" |
| 00:10.13 | ShadowJK | It's not dhcp |
| 00:10.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 00:11.02 | ShadowJK | Since when has gsm/3g ever reused an existing protocol when they could invent a new protocol :P |
| 00:12.02 | ShadowJK | dhcp needs an existing IP connection, I suspect the addresses get negotiated before IP packets start flowing |
| 00:13.25 | ShadowJK | there's also no dhcp on dialup internet, PPPoE and PPPoA +dsl either |
| 00:32.19 | luf | freemangordon: I announced also your upload of microb-engine to cssu-devel on TMO. |
| 01:01.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: I'd say you got a point there |
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| 07:14.42 | freemangordon | luf: can we do anything about the missing thumbnails? to stop trying to get them for example? |
| 07:16.00 | freemangordon | luf: this is for obexftp |
| 07:22.50 | luf | freemangordon: I understand. I also have it in my todo. |
| 07:24.35 | freemangordon | luf: another inconvenience (though I think nothing can be done) - the connection to the devices is tried in order BT returns them |
| 07:25.24 | freemangordon | this leads that 5th device in the list (which is available) to be hardly accessible, because the 4 previous are not available |
| 07:25.31 | freemangordon | I hope you get what I mean |
| 07:26.20 | freemangordon | I wonder if async dbus calls with callbacks could help here |
| 07:26.50 | luf | freemangordon: we talked about it last week. You said it's async ... |
| 07:27.47 | freemangordon | luf: BT as a whole is async related to the other fs |
| 07:28.05 | freemangordon | but device enumeration/browsing in BT is not AIUI |
| 07:28.45 | luf | freemangordon: enumeration is fast enough. The problem is that it tries to preload the content one level down ... |
| 07:28.57 | freemangordon | i.e. until there is no answer from device A (evenv if it is "device not found"), device B is not enumerated |
| 07:29.46 | freemangordon | luf: exactly. however, it is not a major problem, so I think we could live with it |
| 07:29.58 | freemangordon | if there is no some easy solution |
| 07:30.19 | luf | freemangordon: I can add it to the todo however I have no idea how to do it. |
| 07:30.42 | freemangordon | luf: I guess it is something in gw_... calls |
| 07:30.59 | freemangordon | luf: it is up to you |
| 07:31.01 | luf | freemangordon: Hmmm maybe some monitor ... (the problem is on FS side) |
| 07:31.08 | freemangordon | yes |
| 07:31.41 | luf | I have no problem with BLUEZ/DBUS but right now it's just function call from gnome-vfs-daemon and response (sync). |
| 07:32.30 | freemangordon | could it be that the "serial.connect" call is causing it to stall? |
| 07:32.39 | luf | freemangordon: however it'll have downside in periodical (?) checking of device status (online/offline). |
| 07:33.37 | freemangordon | hmm, yep, afaik it blocks in "serial.connect" for the devices not in the range |
| 07:33.38 | luf | freemangordon: you said that it's not a problem. However only adding some g_warning and checking logs can gives you the answer. |
| 07:33.57 | freemangordon | luf: :nod: |
| 07:34.19 | freemangordon | ok, i'll do it when have some time |
| 07:34.45 | freemangordon | heads for the office |
| 07:36.07 | luf | I'll add todos: 1) try to change connecting in parallel; 2) try to handle BT devices using some monitor (but how to check availability periodically). |
| 07:36.53 | luf | 1) just inside the one sync call from gnome-vfs-daemon 2) it'll be fully async |
| 07:37.37 | luf | freemangordon: how long "freeze" do you see because of not reachable 4 devices? |
| 08:07.29 | kerio | hm, is there an obexfs fuse file system? |
| 08:07.36 | kerio | it would be neat |
| 08:09.49 | luf | kerio: no idea |
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| 10:28.43 | luf | freemangordon: ping |
| 10:31.26 | luf | freemangordon: never mind I had wrong idea |
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| 11:45.08 | freemangordon | luf: I misexplained it - there is no "freeze", but a device in range which is 5th in the list, gives "unable to connect" error. I guess it is because something times out while bluez(or whoever) tries to connect to the 4 devices not in range |
| 11:45.38 | freemangordon | otherwise UI is fully responsible all the time |
| 11:56.27 | luf | freemangordon: can you post me what's in syslog? |
| 11:57.06 | luf | freemangordon: I think this should be logged (the error why it's unable to connect). |
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| 12:05.37 | freemangordon | can't do it now, my second device is not with me here in the office |
| 12:05.44 | freemangordon | will do later, when back home |
| 12:05.51 | freemangordon | luf: ^^^ |
| 12:16.43 | luf | freemangordon: ok |
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| 16:05.48 | freemangordon | luf: http://pastebin.com/jUckH5qD |
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| 16:33.17 | freemangordon | why Qt refuses to build? |
| 16:48.56 | freemangordon | nice, if you have some escaped char in the build path ('+' for example) you can't build Qt :D |
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| 23:03.31 | Pali | merlin1991, can you create getbootstate and initrd-progs repos on cssu gitorious? |
| 23:03.42 | Pali | I have OSS replacement for that two packages |
| 23:04.57 | Pali | and next I have patches for osso-af-utils, hildon-welcome and dsme to not fail if /proc/bootreason not exists |
| 23:05.53 | Pali | these patches removing dependency on /proc/bootreason from maemo system and kernel without /proc/bootreason could be bootable on maemo too |
| 23:06.11 | Pali | let me know if you create repositories |
| 23:06.27 | Pali | now going offline... |
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