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12:11.37freemangordonaapo: don't use 4.7.2 if you want to debug, neither gdb nor (latest) valgrind handle all the ARM instructions
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15:14.05keriomerlin1991: why is maemosec-certman-tools in the metapackage
15:16.02Palikerio, because some maemo applications using binaries from that package...
15:16.11kerioPali: nope
15:16.34Palidid you run grep on full filesystem?
15:16.38kerioif they do, they have a botched dependency
15:17.13keriomp-fremantle-generic-pr only depends on maemosec-certman-common-ca
15:19.00Paliyou know that maemo has bad dependency :P
15:19.12kerioyeah but maemosec-certman-tools isn't installed in pr1.3
15:19.21Palikerio, run grep and then we know if it is really needed
15:19.33Palicheck PR1.3.1
15:19.44Palithat update was for certman only
15:22.10keriooh no, nvm
15:22.14kerioi suck at reading apparently
15:22.22kerioit's in the stock metapackage
15:23.34keriofor 1.3.1
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18:08.51kerioPali: have you looked into the u-boot-update-bootmenu patch?
18:10.24Palinot yet
18:12.32keriobut it's a really small patch!
19:15.00aapoany point for compile kernel-power with gcc-4.7? I think it is not compiled with it yet.
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20:16.43freemangordonaapo: you may try, it might bosst performance for fs a bit
20:16.48freemangordon*boost
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22:12.07luffreemangordon: do you know about this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85494&page=3 ?
22:12.39freemangordonlemme check
22:12.46freemangordonluf: yah
22:12.49freemangordonyeah
22:12.52freemangordonsaw it
22:13.39freemangordonluf: re your microb-engine questio - i compiled it with system zlib and libpng and installed it on my primary
22:13.57freemangordonwanna run it for a couple of days to see how it will behave
22:14.16freemangordonthumb branch that is, but it should not make any difference
22:14.37freemangordonluf: btw are correct libxml and zlib in -devel?
22:14.59keriofreemangordon: my system boots with them, so i would assume so
22:15.10freemangordonkerio: your system is -thumb
22:15.43keriooh, right
22:16.06luffreemangordon: as far as I know then yes. I didn't upload libxml2-2.8.0 :)
22:16.22luffreemangordon: anything concrete why are you asking?
22:20.54luffreemangordon: another question. Did the user with obexd problems (thumb 7) report something new? I lost it ...
22:26.08freemangordonluf: The point is - is it safe to upload ARM microb-engine using system libpng and zlib to -devel, i.e. if all dependencies are in place
22:26.27freemangordonluf: re obexd -no, nothing in addition
22:26.48freemangordonluf: so, you think it is safe to use libxml2.8?
22:27.38freemangordonluf: TBH i think we should stop at this point (after microb-engine and libxml 2.8) and test for a while
22:27.56luffreemangordon: I'm not sure if latest libpng (with apng) is in cssu-devel.
22:28.09freemangordonotherwise we risk if something breaks to be clueless about the reason
22:28.18freemangordonluf: that was my question :)
22:28.19lufI think we can wait with libxml 2.8.
22:28.47freemangordonluf: yep, sounds sane
22:29.24freemangordonwe have way beyond critical mass for the next update
22:29.40freemangordonwe can use the time while merlin1991 is skiing to test
22:30.28luf:D
22:30.30freemangordonarcean_: what is the situation with Qt and h-d, are they in -devel yet?
22:30.53freemangordonluf: ;)
22:31.07luffreemangordon: any idea how to check apng support in libpng?
22:31.27freemangordonluf: try to compile microb-engine with it
22:31.42freemangordonor open the lib in hex editor and search for apng
22:31.56arcean_freemangordon: yes, they're
22:31.58arcean_http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311611&postcount=65
22:32.30freemangordonarcean_: thanks, seems i've missed that
22:32.33luflibpng was added to the cssu-devel 2013-01-03 22:10:07
22:33.00freemangordonluf: if there is apng, it should be written in changelog
22:33.26freemangordonarcean_: are merges pushed on gitorious CSSU repo?
22:33.34freemangordonor only MRs
22:34.14arcean_hmm, not yet
22:35.01freemangordonarcean_: please, ask merlin1991 to merge them, I want to test those, but won't revert to ARM :D
22:35.13freemangordonesp for Qt
22:35.41arcean_there's one important commit for Qt: http://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arceans-qt-x11-maemo/commit/bd952eede40ad0e0ee368e0a5a65566d93667b19
22:35.58freemangordonarcean_: yes, I saw it
22:36.47freemangordonarcean_: BTW I think you have commit/push rights for CSSU repo, why don;t you just use them?
22:37.54arcean_those changes were way too risky to commit them directly to the cssu repo
22:37.56arcean_:P
22:38.11freemangordonarcean_: we can always revert ;)
22:38.45arcean_that's another approach :D
22:38.57freemangordonarcean_: after all all of us are doing risky changes in critical system libs :)
22:39.13luffreemangordon: libpng 0cssu3 is in cssu-devel. So I think it's the latest ...
22:39.20arcean_hehe
22:40.10freemangordonarcean_: if changes were commited in master, i'd have run h-d and cssu on my primary for at least 3 days :D
22:40.36freemangordonluf: well then, i'll try tomorrow to push microb-engine too
22:41.31freemangordonluf: gvfs-extras with your latest changes is on devel, ain't?
22:41.41freemangordons/on/in/
22:42.21luffreemangordon: great
22:42.30freemangordonluf: hmm?
22:42.32luffreemangordon: right
22:42.36freemangordoni was asking :D
22:42.57freemangordondid you upload it in -devel?
22:43.33luffreemangordon: First you use normal sentence (about microb-engine) ... => great After that you asked => right ;)
22:43.53freemangordonsorry for asking too many questions, i want to check if averything we'll gonna push in the next -testing is gonna be tested
22:43.57lufAll my latest except libxml 2.8.0 is in cssu-devel (see the TMO) and in git.
22:43.59freemangordonluf: aah, ok
22:44.20lufI have no problem with questions.
22:44.26freemangordon:)
22:44.45lufIt's better than silence. I have no info is someone tested it (except you).
22:47.16freemangordonluf: usually this is enough :D:D:D
22:47.36freemangordonyou know I am picky o the details :P
22:47.40freemangordon*on
22:47.51lufYes the highest award for sysops ;p
22:48.06freemangordon?
22:48.27freemangordonsorry, I am few jacks ahead, elaborate a bit :D
22:49.16lufSilence is the highest award for sys adms (I'm sysadm) ;)
22:49.24freemangordonaah, ok :D
22:55.07luffreemangordon: I hope I'll test tomorrow or following day the microb-engine. Now I need some rest. It were hard days last week or two.
22:55.09arcean_merge requests created ;)
22:56.28PaliTHIS is very very bad nokia joke: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/apt/blobs/master/methods/netrc.cc#line215
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22:57.31freemangordonPali: who is JOSHUA?
22:58.27Palino idea
22:58.39freemangordonbtw what that code do?
22:58.48Palibut storing some password for apt-get to source file...
22:59.12freemangordonwell, "&& Uri.Password.empty () == true && Uri.User.empty () == true"
22:59.43Paliseems that apt sending Uri.User = string ("NOKIA-OSSO-") + string (product_hardware); as user name
22:59.45freemangordonPali: are you serching for a way to fix the expired certificates?
23:00.06Palineed to run tcpdump and show it in wireshark
23:00.13Paliwhat our apt-get doing
23:00.19Paliseems that apt-get is pacthed by nokia
23:00.29Paliwe do not have normal apt in maemo :-(
23:00.52freemangordondoes that do any harm?
23:01.08PaliI do not know what it doing...
23:01.22PaliMAG did not imported full history to git
23:01.50freemangordon:(
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23:58.33DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: JOSHUA!!! JOSHUA!!!!! will you watch your movies, son?

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