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06:47.50freemangordonPali: seems your "protocol version" PA patch breaks something, this is what I get in syslog with it:
06:47.53freemangordonJan 10 22:26:32 Nokia-N900 pulseaudio[815]: client-ext.c: client-ext.c: Can't obtain command line
06:47.54freemangordonJan 10 22:26:55 Nokia-N900 pulseaudio[815]: ratelimit.c: 2 events suppressed
06:48.29Palifreemangordon, note that I added support for syslog too
06:48.40Paliso in last version all syslog messages was discarted
06:48.52freemangordonluf: I added one more patch on top of yours (the one from ubuntu bugtracker)
06:48.56Palican you add syslog patch to pulseaudio and try it with old version?
06:49.03freemangordonPali: that might have been on puropse
06:49.11freemangordon*purpose
06:49.58freemangordonPali: can't do it now, I'm in the office, don;t want to risk a bootloop my primary
06:50.06Paliok
06:52.17freemangordonPali: where did you enable that? which patch?
06:53.06Palihttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/commit/c90f16a20f8ada12d346d94a8cb847d0037715ed
06:53.13Palionky last line
06:53.18freemangordonok
06:53.19Pali--log-target=syslog
06:53.50freemangordonaah, I see, it should be that then
06:54.12freemangordonwill test when possible
06:54.27Paliok
06:58.33freemangordonPali: BTW how battery applet calculates the remaining charge and bars?
06:59.06Paliwhen using BME or replacement, it send all data
06:59.25freemangordonas according to it now I hav 68% charge/974 mA/6 bars
06:59.39freemangordonI've disconnected from the charger 1.5 hours ago :D
07:00.01Palido you use BME?
07:00.04freemangordonyes
07:00.14Paliso ask BME devs :D
07:00.26Paliit only show what BME send...
07:00.44Palibut you *should* see two times
07:00.50freemangordonI see
07:00.55Palifirst is active and second is idle
07:01.10freemangordon4 hours/4 days
07:01.23Paliin BME readme file is written that active time is about 2 hours...
07:01.38Paliidle time in BME readme file is missing...
07:01.45freemangordonwhich device is that? :D
07:01.53freemangordon2 hours of active time
07:01.54Palirx-51
07:02.00freemangordonhehe
07:02.33Palibut on bme replacement I'm using two bq27 registers for time: MLTTE for idle
07:02.37Paliand some for active
07:02.47Pali(that which give average value)
07:02.48freemangordonyeah, I know that replacement is fine
07:02.58Paliand it reporting very similar times
07:03.12Pali4-5 hours / 3-5 days
07:03.43freemangordonbut wonder if it is a wise idea to put this in CSSU (now).
07:04.05freemangordonit will cause lots of fuss
07:04.31freemangordonPali: BTW have in ming I have 1410 mAh battery
07:04.37freemangordon(or was it 1430)
07:04.49keriofreemangordon: i want that battery :(
07:05.08freemangordonkerio: kust buy one, all new BL5Js are 1403
07:05.12freemangordon*1430
07:05.20freemangordonI took that from an Asha
07:05.33kerioi'm waiting for a weird chinese battery to arrive, vi claims that it's 1600
07:05.42kerioas in, he did multiple calibrations and it ended up there
07:05.44freemangordonyeah, I know
07:07.55freemangordonPali: I have the feeling your applet shows one bar lower than stock, for the same data
07:07.56Palido you trust chinese battery??
07:08.20PaliI do not want to see exploding my phone...
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07:08.43freemangordonalso stock applet shows red bar on batery low warning, yours way before that
07:08.45Palifreemangordon, bars are reported from BME
07:08.59Palionly % is calculated to rx51_battery if loded
07:09.02Pali*loaded
07:09.14Paliso this is maybe problem...
07:09.16freemangordonPali: The value is reported by bme, yes, but it is the applet that is using it
07:10.02freemangordonaiui your applet shows red bar on battery.charge_level.current = 1 aiui
07:10.20freemangordonI guess stock does that on battery.charge_level.current = 0
07:11.42freemangordonsame for max, you (IMO correctly) show 6 bars on 68 persent load, but stock shows 7 bars(not verified though)
07:11.50freemangordons/load/charge
07:12.27freemangordonluf: another patch should be done on top of "yours" in PA
07:12.39freemangordonluf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/924416
07:12.50luffreemangordon: I saw you already added ...
07:13.07freemangordonI did that and installed on my test device, seems like working
07:13.24freemangordonluf: where did you saw that? I didn;t push anything
07:13.52freemangordon(iirc)
07:14.44luffreemangordonluf: I added one more patch on top of yours (the one from ubuntu bugtracker)
07:14.52freemangordonaah, ok :)
07:15.13freemangordonluf: I was not sure you've read it
07:15.30freemangordonhowever, do you want me to upload the debs?
07:15.31lufSo may I push my changes into git?
07:15.35freemangordonluf: no
07:15.49lufSo please give me the patch. I'll manage it.
07:15.57freemangordonthe one on ubuntu does not apply cleanly on top of Nokia's
07:16.15freemangordonso i got flist.c from upstream
07:16.16freemangordonok
07:16.40lufPlease just upload the flist.c.
07:17.11freemangordonluf: BTW everything here is commited, just not pushed, what if I push in a new branc (devel or next or flist)
07:17.19freemangordonor just push in master
07:17.30keriofreemangordon: Pali's applet is... special
07:17.58freemangordonluf: I mean, why waste time, I everything is in place (the patch, changelog, everything)
07:18.26luffreemangordon: I did the patch (againist building trees) between libxml2 2.6 and 2.8 (around 200.000 lines so aprox 100.000 of changes). Do you still want it?
07:19.19freemangordonyep, upload it please, I'll try to find time to try t verify what has changed
07:19.20luffreemangordon: Ok. So let's manage it. Feel free to create new branch/git for merge request.
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07:19.52freemangordonluf: i'll push to master, ok?
07:20.49freemangordon(i forgot to branch before doing changes :( )
07:20.59rantomMorning.
07:21.13lufOk. I hope you splitted the config change for AudioSink from the rest :)
07:21.22lufrantom: Morning.
07:22.05freemangordonluf: I just cloned master on gitorious and added 0206...patch
07:22.06rantomA bit curious. I updated to the latest stable release and there was a mention in tmo that modest, tinymail and maemo-security-certs were updated
07:22.44freemangordonluf: I didn;t use your source tarball (besides getting debian/changelog from it)
07:23.09freemangordonok, going to push, you'll see, if something is not ok, we can always revert
07:23.19rantomHowever there's no closer report on what part they were updated. For example maemo-security-certs, if  I'm not mistaken, was supposed to remove the TURKTRUST-certificate, but it is still listed under Settings
07:23.41keriorantom: nope
07:23.56keriorantom: CSSU has followed what mozilla and m$ have done
07:24.10kerioexplicitly blacklist the two mistakenly-released intermediate CAs
07:25.03luffreemangordon: Ok.
07:25.11rantomSo to summarize: there's three certificates for that company which two of them were faulty?
07:30.55freemangordonluf: pushed
07:33.20freemangordonrantom: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/maemo-security-certman/commit/0be038825a98dae2d80fd411a02cb4c86ed1b36a
07:33.43rantomfreemangordon: Thanks, I just found that too :)
07:34.02rantomMakes sense. I just thought that it would be removed from the Settings but I was wrong, thanks
07:34.17rantom(As happened with DigiNotar, IIRC)
07:36.36rantomOh and one more thing, that I'm not quite sure is it new or not (I've been jumping between Stable and Testing a bit so I might just be confused)
07:36.46rantomWas camera-ui removed from Stable?
07:37.14keriorantom: nicocam was never added to stable
07:37.37rantomOh, ok
07:39.12luffreemangordon: cssu-devel/
07:39.23luf*?
07:39.46rantomYep. Just double-checked and the nicocam was not shown in my other Stable N900
07:39.56rantomThanks for all the replies, cleared a lot for me
07:40.23luffreemangordon: you ahve to be crazy to read 6,5MB diff with +-150k rows
07:45.02luffreemangordon: http://merlin1991.at/~luf/libxml2/source/libxml2_2.6_to_2.8.diff
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08:04.21freemangordonluf: do you have idea what amount of commits i've passed through while backporting DSP driver? ;)
08:05.06freemangordonluf: anyway cssu-devel sounds ok to me. just test it before uploading.
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09:35.10luffreemangordon: no idea.
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09:36.33luffreemangordon: BTW I see: dpkg-genchanges: warning: unknown information field `Breaks'
09:37.10lufPackage: libpulse0; Breaks: pavucontrol (<< 0.9.8)
09:38.18freemangordonluf: yeah, saw it
09:38.30freemangordonbut this is legacy from stock, so...
09:40.29luffreemangordon: why there is a name?
09:40.50lufI think it's useless in our version ...
09:42.20lufI want to drop the name ...
09:50.43freemangordonluf: what name?
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09:51.11lufstruct pa_flist { char *name;
09:51.26lufIt's just for storing unknown ... malloc + free in our version.
09:51.43lufpa_flist *pa_flist_new(unsigned size) { return pa_flist_new_with_name(size, "unknown"); }
09:52.18lufDo you agree with removing? I'll do it.
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10:06.11luffreemangordon: ^^^ ?
10:20.11freemangordonluf: so pa_flist_new_with_name is only used inside flist.c?
10:20.22freemangordonif that is the case, I'm pretty much ok
10:23.39freemangordonluf: yeah, it seems it is used only for log/debug http://www.mail-archive.com/pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de/msg08002.html
10:24.07freemangordonluf: remove it, we don't need to debug :D
10:29.16ivgalvezfreemangordon are you removing any of those cpu-offender proprietary filters from pulseaudio?
10:29.26freemangordonivgalvez: no
10:29.32freemangordonwe can't
10:30.02freemangordonthe speakers protection is burried somewhere there afaik
10:30.11ivgalvezfrom my memories I think there was some low-pass filter implemented in kernel space that could substitute the one in PA
10:30.23freemangordonivgalvez: yep, there is
10:30.39freemangordonbut afaik it is not widly tested.
10:30.56merlin1991and we don't ship a kernel with it
10:31.24freemangordonivgalvez: the other piece there is no way for us to remove is echo cancelation ;)
10:31.34ivgalvezthat's worse
10:32.26ivgalvezmerlin1991 I've always supported a kernel in Fremantle's CSSU as it's in Diablo's CSSU
10:32.35ivgalvezbut anyway
10:32.44merlin1991ivgalvez: but it's kernel first then pa fix ;)
10:32.47merlin1991not the other way around
10:32.51ivgalvezyep
10:32.51freemangordon:D
10:33.20ivgalvezthis afternoon in Council meeting, most of the discussion will be around infra
10:33.27ivgalvezif you are interested in participate
10:34.26MrPingu_TUDivgalvez: Which channel?
10:34.43ivgalvez#maemo-meeting
10:34.43merlin1991finally found the setting for not spinning down harddrives on batter (xfce), it's been driving him crazy when the whole system comes to a grinding halt waiting for the harddisk to get back to spee
10:34.58ivgalvezevery Friday at 19:00 UTC
10:35.20merlin1991I'm ususally out, and read the backlog afterwards :D
10:35.36MrPingu_TUDI will have to, too ;p
10:37.46MrPingu_TUDI'm out, back to home again!
10:38.54freemangordonivgalvez: 19 UTC is a bit late for me, but I'll try to participate at least for a while
10:44.09ivgalvezI hope I could connect without problems, I might be on the move with my sloppy connection, but there's a lot to discuss
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10:54.22luffreemangordon: we need debug but it's used only in flist.c with "unknown" value. Removed :)
10:56.46Paliivgalvez, I have question for meeting: what happened with community OBS?
10:57.06lufPali: what is OBS? :)
10:57.26Paliopensuse build system
10:57.46Palimeego and mer have it
10:57.52Paliwe have autobuilder...
10:58.22merlin1991come on, don't diss our beloved autobuilder
10:58.24Palialso harmattan use it for community repos...
10:59.32ivgalvezPali: I'm not up to date about OBS status
11:00.03ivgalvezWoody was more on it
11:00.04Paliso this is question for meeting :-) somebody maybe know...
11:00.12ivgalvezyes, noted
11:00.45ivgalvezhopefully we would be able to start a proper Harmattan community repo once we manage the repositories
11:01.22ivgalvezor we might need to call it Maemo 6 repo, as the Harmattan trademark seems more unlikely to be trasnferred to the foundation
11:07.22lufIt seems patched PA is working ...
11:07.40lufNew version uploaded to the http://merlin1991.at/~luf/pulseaudio/
11:08.27lufLatest sources are on gitorious.
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11:53.58lufI uploaded patched PA into cssu-devel with notification on TMO.
12:06.33freemangordonluf: great, will test as soon as I have time
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12:28.51lufDoes anybody remember the wiki page how to enable bluetooth (I think it's the page with dbus commands). I'm going to find it.
12:30.04arceanhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Bluetooth
12:31.55lufarcean: thanks.
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14:47.40freemangordonPali: honestly, you should add 1 here https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-area-applet-battery/blobs/master/status-area-applet-battery.c#line384
14:47.51freemangordon(to the reported value)
14:48.27Palilook here: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-area-applet-battery/blobs/master/status-area-applet-battery.c#line425
14:48.46Paliyour change will be irrelevant
14:49.11freemangordonooh, you use percentage
14:49.18freemangordonbut thats bogus
14:49.39freemangordonwe all know those values are incorrect
14:50.04freemangordonPali: when on BME, at least keep the current behaviour for bars
14:50.32Paliok, I will change it
14:50.48Palinow preparing n900 patches for 3.8 :-)
14:51.18freemangordonPali: according to applet I have 2 bars remaining. Usually by that time of day I have at least 4 ;)
14:51.24freemangordon(with similar usage)
14:52.48freemangordonPali: great
14:52.51freemangordonwhich devices?
15:45.00luffreemangordon: I have a patch for osso-gnomevfs-extra you requested ;)
15:54.43freemangordonluf: great, now I am happy :D
16:02.28luffreemangordon: so few and you're happy. Good :D
16:04.56freemangordonluf: whell, i am not an avid men :P
16:28.31luffreemangordon: do you agree with putting libhildonfm and osso-gnomevfs-extra into cssu-devel?
16:30.44luffreemangordon: I pushed the the osso-gnomevfs-extra patch to gitorious.
16:47.34freemangordonluf: yes, put them in -devel
16:47.51freemangordoni'll add thumb suport to -extra package
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17:18.47luffreemangordon: Do I forget add the thumb support?
17:18.55luffreemangordon: Hmm I forget. I'm preparing fix.
17:19.38freemangordonluf: as you wish, though is not a problem to me to add it in the branch
17:23.43luffreemangordon: added
17:23.58freemangordonluf: thanks
17:24.16lufYou're welcome. I'm sorry I forget to check :(
17:26.15lufI'm building osso-gnomevfs-extra and I'll upload it to cssu-devel with libhildonfm.
17:27.05freemangordonis there a corect dependency added?
17:27.11freemangordon*correct
17:27.39luffreemangordon: do we want also Depends: libhildonfm (>= new version) in osso-gnomevfs-extra?
17:27.55freemangordonmaybe a dependency to osso-connectivity-ui-l10n should be added, not sure though
17:28.08luffreemangordon: There was (and is) no dependecy now
17:28.21freemangordonok, leave it that way
17:28.42freemangordonwe'll fix it when it is time to enter -T
17:29.01lufI want to fix it now the correct way (no changes later) :)
17:29.21freemangordonI am ok, ofc :)
17:29.42luf1) dependency to libhildonfm - I think it should
17:29.50freemangordonyep
17:30.39luf2) osso-connectivity-ui-l10n - this is a question but normal user never want to see xyz_abs_bluetooth instead of Bluetooth. So you're right FMPOV and I'll add it too.
17:31.00luffreemangordon: I'll add both. Ok, thanks.
17:31.09freemangordonosso-connectivity-ui-l10n-mr0
17:31.25freemangordonthe correct package name
17:32.12keriomerlin1991: wtf, spinning drives? :s
17:32.33freemangordonlaptop_mode=1?
17:32.43keriofreemangordon: drives that *spin*
17:32.46kerioaka not SSDs
17:32.51freemangordonofc
17:33.10freemangordonwe're old-fashioned here after all
17:33.22freemangordonstill using fremantle, what SSDs? :D
17:33.35keriothe n900 only has SSDs!
17:33.45luffreemangordon: just to check: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, libhildonfm2 (>= 2.28.22+0cssu3), osso-connectivity-ui-l10n-mr0 (>= 6.11+0m5)
17:34.11freemangordonlook sgood to me
17:34.43freemangordon(you should know better than me libhildonfm2 version)
17:34.50freemangordonbut l10n is fine
17:35.01luf:)
17:35.50luffreemangordon: what about bluez dependency? Did you test it also on stock bluez?
17:36.12freemangordoni've tested it only on stock bluez :D
17:36.33freemangordonmaybe obexgw should be added too
17:36.49freemangordon(or whatever the package name was)
17:37.11luffreemangordon: Great. I tested it only on 4.99. I'm a little bit said that you don't try 4.99 :D
17:37.20freemangordonii  libgwobex0                                          0.64+0m5                                  wrapper library for openobex
17:37.37lufdbus?
17:37.47freemangordonluf: it was installed on my -devel device, but I reflashed a couple of days ago. bootloop :D
17:38.08freemangordonluf: and iirc you've said it still has problems. ?
17:39.15lufI know ... libxml2 + zlib :D I have no problem with it. But you're right some person has troubles with win ...
17:39.38freemangordonhmm, wasn't that obexd?
17:39.45freemangordonor it is bluez too?
17:40.46lufSomeone on thumb reported obexd but I see no reply from him. And don_falcone and merlin1991 (reproduce) bluez + win
17:41.11lufHowever both is working ok for me :(
17:41.17freemangordonhmm, i guess both of them has obexd from cssu-t ;)
17:41.20luf(I don't use -thumb)
17:41.42lufI have also obexd from cssu-t ;)
17:41.55freemangordondoes not matter, you are on -T, which is the same version as in thumb :)
17:44.44luffreemangordon: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, bluez (>= 4.60), libdbus-glib-1-2, libgwobex0, libhildonfm2 (>= 2.28.22+0cssu3), osso-connectivity-ui-l10n-mr0 (>= 6.11+0m5)
17:44.48lufAny other idea?
17:45.12freemangordonno
17:45.51lufMaybe I can drop version info for osso-connectivity-ui-l10n-mr0
17:46.12freemangordonmaybe
17:49.06lufI see another one: libosso-gnomevfs2-0
17:49.29freemangordonlibhildon should depend on it
17:49.32freemangordonso no need
17:50.01luflibhildon shouldn't depend on osso-gnomevfs-extra
17:50.29freemangordonI mean that libhildonfm depends on  libosso-gnomevfs2-0
17:50.30luflibhildon doesn't need osso-gnomevfs-extra to run properly
17:50.57freemangordonso no need to add it to a package which depends on libhildinfm
17:51.11lufAaah good. libdbus-glib-1-2 is not needed as libosso-gnomevfs2-0 depends on it.
17:52.00lufOk. No more time with this :D Final result: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, bluez (>= 4.60), libgwobex0, libhildonfm2 (>= 2.28.22+0cssu3), osso-connectivity-ui-l10n-mr0
17:53.06freemangordonlooks fine to me
17:57.44Pali~rescueOS
17:57.44infobotrescue-os is, like, http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/
17:58.13PaliNIN101, how to generate initfs?
17:58.42PaliI have compiled 3.8 kernel with modules and now I want to unpack your initfs and add here my modules...
17:58.47Palihow to do that?
18:00.30Paligenromfs?
18:00.33freemangordonPali: you have to unpack and loopback mount
18:00.45freemangordon(usually)
18:00.48Paliit seems image is romfs
18:00.56PaliI mounted it only in RO mode
18:01.04freemangordonjust mount it then
18:01.26PaliI will try genromfs utility for generating new romfs image
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18:12.20NIN101Pali: it is cramfs
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18:16.27kerioPali: your hald-addon-bme filled up my tmpfs :c
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21:08.37aapoWhat version of gdb you are using on N900? I'm getting "Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0xf3" during bactrace and if I understood it means that my gdb can't handle application which is compiled with gcc-4.7+thumb -compiler.
21:09.33aapoI'm talking about gdb=6.8.50.20090417-0maemo2+0m5
21:13.45lufPali: ping
21:13.52Paliluf, pong
21:14.23lufPali: I installed you battery applet (ok it show icon in sb).
21:15.07lufI removed advanced-power and advanced-power-monitor and the icon from SB disappeared (however I see info in sb menu.
21:15.35luf(both - yours and ap - battery icons disappeared)
21:18.12lufPali: ok I see the icon again after shutdown/power on
21:18.33Paliyes, there is bug in hildon (or maybe in aplet?)
21:18.46Paliit is not possible to unload module correctly
21:19.08Paliso you need to restart hildon after updating plugins
21:19.29lufAaah ok. I didn't know it. Thanks for explanation.
21:25.23luffreemangordon: when do you plan to give us recompiled browser againist system zlib+libpng?
21:28.02kerioPali: how do i disable the hald-addon-bme logs?
21:28.19Palikerio, recompile
21:30.58kerioPali: how do i disable the hald-addon-bme logs without recompiling?
21:31.07Palinot possible
21:31.17PaliI will recompile deb package
21:31.30Paliseems that logs are not needed...
21:32.35keriomy toolchain is pestering people on IRC
21:32.36kerio:D
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22:11.28kerioDocScrutinizer05: i find myself without a bouncer :(
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