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| 09:35.55 | Pali | kerio, now new profiled is in cssu-devel |
| 09:36.06 | kerio | ^_^ |
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| 09:48.06 | kerio | Pali: not only that, i see |
| 09:48.43 | kerio | OMG dsmetool poweroff |
| 09:48.45 | kerio | i love you <3 |
| 09:49.05 | Pali | sudo poweroff should work now too :-) |
| 09:49.12 | kerio | yep, i see |
| 09:49.26 | kerio | why both upstart and system-services are updated? |
| 09:49.27 | Pali | sudo reboot working too |
| 09:49.38 | kerio | same source package? |
| 09:49.41 | Pali | kerio, because both deb packages comes from upstart src |
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| 09:52.13 | Pali | merlin1991: In cssu-devel and cssu-testing are different deb packages rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait with same version |
| 09:52.32 | Pali | and my apt-get still trying to upgrade something... |
| 09:53.11 | Pali | we should consider to *not* rebuild Architecture independent packages when moving cssu-devel to cssu-* |
| 09:53.21 | Pali | or always increase number |
| 09:56.15 | kerio | the one from cssu-testing takes priority for me |
| 09:56.20 | kerio | or maybe it's just newer |
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| 10:10.39 | merlin1991 | Pali: well who's the culprit who uploaded to -deve? |
| 10:10.42 | merlin1991 | *-devel* |
| 10:11.11 | merlin1991 | btw which version has the better css? |
| 10:11.17 | Pali | both are same |
| 10:11.41 | Pali | I updated first version to devel |
| 10:12.02 | Pali | and (propably you) updated recompiled (same version) from git to testing |
| 10:12.23 | merlin1991 | and what's the difference? |
| 10:12.32 | Pali | no difference |
| 10:12.41 | Pali | only apt-get still show me "update" |
| 10:12.47 | merlin1991 | "are different deb packages" |
| 10:12.53 | Pali | and cycle between that two versions |
| 10:13.01 | merlin1991 | hm weird |
| 10:13.15 | Pali | deb packages has different md5sum but files are same |
| 10:13.39 | Pali | control files has different timestamp, so tar part in deb is different |
| 10:13.45 | Pali | so deb packages must be different |
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| 10:14.19 | Pali | btw, operator name widget from devel doing cyclic reboot :-( |
| 10:14.30 | Pali | not I enabled R&D mode and disabled lifeguard |
| 10:14.51 | Pali | I'm going to investigare what happened |
| 10:14.55 | Pali | ping jonwil ^^^^^ |
| 10:15.22 | jonwil | wierd that its doing that, its working just fine for me |
| 10:15.45 | jonwil | I am running the same .deb file as was uploaded to -devel |
| 10:16.21 | Pali | I see that hildon-something crashing after I updated packages |
| 10:16.37 | Pali | so maybe there is also 3rd app |
| 10:16.40 | jonwil | maybe |
| 10:16.47 | jonwil | all I know is that its working for me |
| 10:16.49 | Pali | going to investigate |
| 10:17.08 | kerio | Pali: ah fuck, bootloop |
| 10:17.21 | kerio | and yes, it's connui-home-cellular |
| 10:17.47 | Pali | kerio, enable R&D and disable lifeguard |
| 10:17.57 | kerio | Pali: nah, where's the .so? |
| 10:17.58 | jonwil | so there is a legit problem with connui-home-cellular as it stands in cssu-devel? |
| 10:19.56 | jonwil | its definatly working for me with no crashes |
| 10:20.05 | jonwil | or boot problems |
| 10:20.26 | jonwil | which means the people having the problems (if there are any) will have to debug it themselves and come up with the solution... |
| 10:21.20 | Pali | /usr/bin/hildon-home crashing |
| 10:21.59 | Pali | and crashing after "Jan 5 11:15:03 Pali-Nokia-N900 cellular: csd[1275]: ISI_SMS .901580> incoming_cell_broadcast(): Incoming cell broadcast" |
| 10:22.01 | Pali | jonwil ^^^ |
| 10:22.25 | jonwil | Do you have the logging for the widget enabled? |
| 10:22.32 | Pali | no |
| 10:22.37 | Pali | going to enable it |
| 10:22.40 | jonwil | please do |
| 10:22.50 | Pali | but I do not remember gconf keys :D |
| 10:22.52 | jonwil | enable it and get some logs of just how far it gets when you boot |
| 10:23.00 | jonwil | look in the source code for the gconf keys :P |
| 10:23.06 | Pali | I know |
| 10:23.16 | kerio | huh, it reboots for me even without the connui-home-cellular .so |
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| 10:23.55 | Pali | so then we need gdb + debug symbols |
| 10:24.09 | Pali | hildon-home-dbg |
| 10:24.27 | jonwil | or connui-home-cellular-dbg :) |
| 10:24.29 | kerio | Pali: hildon-home crashed even without the .so |
| 10:24.52 | jonwil | since its not broken for me, I cant help you fix it |
| 10:25.56 | jonwil | going to go back to looking for interesting things to reverse engineer. I gave up on clockd because I have no way to test a number of its features to make sure they work (I don't want to reverse engineer anything I cant properly test locally) |
| 10:28.10 | kerio | Pali: i have no connui-cellular-operator-home-item.so and it still crashes |
| 10:28.22 | Pali | kerio, so need gdb and backtrace |
| 10:28.51 | kerio | Pali: how do i type esc in recovery console? |
| 10:29.12 | Pali | hm, I do not know |
| 10:30.11 | Pali | kerio, enable R&D and disable lifeguard |
| 10:30.20 | kerio | i don't wanna do that! :c |
| 10:30.21 | Pali | then reboot cycling will be disabled |
| 10:32.31 | kerio | what's signal 11? |
| 10:32.41 | kerio | oh segv |
| 10:34.11 | kerio | anyway, the problem isn't connui-home-cellular i think |
| 10:34.30 | kerio | Pali: does hildon-home know about profiles? |
| 10:34.48 | Pali | kerio, there is plugin in status menu |
| 10:35.04 | kerio | the status menu is hildon-status-area or whatever |
| 10:35.10 | kerio | hildon-home is hildon-home |
| 10:35.47 | Pali | I started hildon-home & hildon-desktop in gdb |
| 10:35.50 | Pali | nothing crashed |
| 10:35.53 | Pali | and working fine |
| 10:35.54 | kerio | :s |
| 10:36.01 | Pali | going to start also hildon-status-menu |
| 10:36.25 | kerio | dangling pointers ahoy |
| 10:36.37 | kerio | fine, i'll do it your way pali >:c |
| 10:37.07 | kerio | Pali: what flags do i need? no-lifeguard-reset? |
| 10:37.40 | Pali | yes |
| 10:41.58 | jonwil | ok, so the problem isn't connui-home-cellular? |
| 10:42.14 | kerio | jonwil: it deleted it and it still crashes |
| 10:42.15 | kerio | s |
| 10:42.25 | kerio | seems like it's hildon-home somewere else |
| 10:42.28 | kerio | *somewhere |
| 10:42.41 | kerio | but of course it works fine when ran inside gdb :s |
| 10:44.24 | kerio | no, wait, i got a sigsegv |
| 10:44.50 | kerio | with no debug symbols |
| 10:45.53 | kerio | how do i specify the debug symbols? |
| 10:47.20 | kerio | Pali: ah crap, hildon-home is .launched |
| 10:47.28 | kerio | how do we debug that? |
| 10:47.41 | Pali | I do not know |
| 10:47.46 | Pali | under gdb it not crashing |
| 10:47.51 | Pali | and without gdb it crash |
| 10:47.53 | kerio | how are you launching it? |
| 10:48.05 | Pali | $ gdb --args maemo-summoner hildon-home.launch |
| 10:48.14 | Pali | $ maemo-summoner hildon-home.launch |
| 10:48.29 | kerio | oh, what's maemo-summoner? |
| 10:48.36 | kerio | like maemo-invoker but in its own instance? |
| 10:48.42 | Pali | yes |
| 10:48.52 | kerio | well, it still crashes for me |
| 10:48.58 | Pali | in gdb too? |
| 10:49.01 | kerio | but maemo-summoner doesn't |
| 10:49.04 | merlin1991 | bt plz |
| 10:49.07 | Pali | backtrace backtrace |
| 10:49.11 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 10:49.25 | Pali | kerio, do you know how to get backtrace from crashed app? |
| 10:49.36 | kerio | gdb thinks everything is fine |
| 10:49.40 | Pali | there is some env in bash or something similar... |
| 10:49.45 | Pali | but I do not remebmer |
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| 10:51.07 | kerio | Pali: maemo-summoner doesn't crash but i'm not getting the icons |
| 10:53.44 | kerio | when was hildon-home thumbified? |
| 10:58.26 | kerio | Pali: the only thing i can think of is the new profiled |
| 10:58.53 | kerio | but everything else works fine :S |
| 11:02.40 | kerio | Pali: downgraded profiled, libprofile0 and profile-data to stock |
| 11:02.49 | Pali | kerio, doing it too |
| 11:02.53 | Pali | and not hepled |
| 11:02.56 | kerio | :c |
| 11:03.08 | kerio | i can't remember what else i changed in the system before this |
| 11:03.09 | Pali | I upgraded also zlib1g and libpng12-0 |
| 11:03.15 | kerio | oooh |
| 11:03.17 | Pali | maybe some of that two libs |
| 11:03.18 | kerio | i bet it's zlib1g |
| 11:03.41 | kerio | i was running libpng12-0 for a while |
| 11:03.51 | kerio | but zlib1g is new |
| 11:03.56 | kerio | and fairly important |
| 11:04.24 | Pali | but why nothing else crashed?? |
| 11:04.30 | Pali | zlib is used everyhere |
| 11:04.31 | kerio | Pali: nothing else crashed so far |
| 11:04.50 | kerio | also, hildon-home is a fickle bitch |
| 11:05.03 | kerio | loads all sorts of plugins |
| 11:07.55 | Pali | all profile libraries are ok |
| 11:07.57 | kerio | Pali: i has a hildon-home :D |
| 11:08.04 | kerio | downgraded zlib1g |
| 11:08.05 | Pali | operator is ok too |
| 11:08.28 | Pali | libpng12-0 is ok too |
| 11:08.36 | kerio | confirm |
| 11:08.36 | Pali | so zlib1g crashing... |
| 11:08.49 | kerio | freemangordon: you bootlooped up |
| 11:09.49 | luf | kerio: what version of libxml2 do you have? |
| 11:09.49 | kerio | luf: weren't you also involved? |
| 11:09.56 | kerio | :D |
| 11:10.34 | kerio | luf: 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5+0cssu0+thumb0 |
| 11:10.43 | luf | That's the reason. |
| 11:10.56 | kerio | freemangordon: you bootlooped up the correct dependencies |
| 11:11.09 | luf | Fuck it shouldn't be possible to install zlib1g without correct libxml2 |
| 11:11.19 | kerio | luf: see my previous line |
| 11:11.36 | kerio | i suppose i should test if everything boots with both of those |
| 11:11.36 | luf | kerio: It's my fault ;) |
| 11:11.53 | kerio | while i'm still on rd mode |
| 11:12.19 | luf | can you show me dpkg -s zlib1g ? |
| 11:12.29 | kerio | luf: from which version? |
| 11:12.56 | luf | The last from cssu-devel |
| 11:13.07 | kerio | luf: no mention of libxml2 |
| 11:13.42 | kerio | perhaps there should be a Breaks: libxml2 (<< 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5+0cssu1) |
| 11:13.48 | Pali | $ sudo apt-get install zlib1g=1:1.2.3-9.osso9+0m5 |
| 11:13.57 | Pali | this ^^^ fixing reboot loop |
| 11:13.58 | luf | It's there in sources ... |
| 11:14.12 | luf | No apt-get install libxml2 will fix the bootlook |
| 11:14.18 | luf | *bootloop |
| 11:14.38 | luf | (from cssu-devel) |
| 11:14.49 | jonwil | ok, so connui-home-cellular is NOT broken? |
| 11:15.14 | kerio | jonwil: i told you already |
| 11:15.18 | kerio | you're completely blameless <3 |
| 11:15.21 | jonwil | ok, great |
| 11:15.52 | Pali | kerio, you can quit vim also with SHIFT+Z+Z |
| 11:16.02 | kerio | not when i'm inputting text, surely |
| 11:16.15 | kerio | otherwise it would be hard to type two capital Zs in a row |
| 11:16.17 | Pali | so you do not need ESC :-) |
| 11:16.20 | luf | Hmmm Breaks seems to be ignored during build ... |
| 11:16.34 | Pali | and ctrl+C to go normal mode |
| 11:16.36 | kerio | gregoa: halp |
| 11:16.40 | kerio | Pali: oh, k |
| 11:16.49 | luf | We have to put it into Conflicts. |
| 11:16.49 | jonwil | ok, so can someone tell me which systemui packages have been cloned so far? |
| 11:16.54 | kerio | Pali: still, isn't there a ctrl+something combination that does esc? |
| 11:16.58 | kerio | luf: no we don't, yet |
| 11:17.08 | kerio | Pali: like ctrl+i that's the same as tab |
| 11:17.22 | luf | kerio: remap the keyboard ;) |
| 11:17.28 | Pali | jonwil: alarm, tklock, dev, powerkeymenu |
| 11:17.36 | luf | Shift+Enter is the empty combination ;) |
| 11:17.43 | jonwil | are there any others that we need cloned?> |
| 11:17.57 | Pali | jonwil, systemui daemon itself |
| 11:18.34 | jonwil | ok, that I cant clone because of some of the things it does :P |
| 11:18.36 | kerio | hrmpf, ctrl+[ |
| 11:18.48 | kerio | Pali: is there a way to set rd flags from the device itself? |
| 11:19.03 | Pali | kerio, yes writing own C application :-) |
| 11:19.15 | kerio | can't 0xFFFF do that? |
| 11:19.26 | Pali | I do not know, but maybe yes |
| 11:19.31 | Pali | I do not know if I implemented it |
| 11:19.34 | kerio | ...you wrote it! |
| 11:19.37 | Pali | you can try |
| 11:19.49 | Pali | I used some OSS cal parser in 0xFFFF |
| 11:20.07 | Pali | so I think write support via proprietary libcal is not in 0xFFFF |
| 11:20.19 | Pali | kerio, but I have prepared open source replacement for initrd-tools DEB package |
| 11:20.26 | Pali | and in that package is cal-tool binary |
| 11:20.35 | Pali | which write to stdout cal flags |
| 11:20.42 | jonwil | There is a functionally identical clone of libcal out there |
| 11:20.48 | Pali | I can add new options for storing cal flags |
| 11:20.55 | kerio | Pali: btw, uboot sometimes fails to turn the backlight on |
| 11:21.08 | Pali | kerio, uboot has no bakclight support |
| 11:21.22 | Pali | kerio, backlight is controlled via SPI interface |
| 11:21.33 | Pali | and I did not have time for creating driver for it in buoot |
| 11:21.55 | luf | :q |
| 11:22.04 | luf | :D wrong window ... |
| 11:22.21 | kerio | luf: anyway, just wait for gregoa to come and tell us that our tools are older than dirt |
| 11:22.48 | luf | :D |
| 11:22.55 | kerio | and then give us a workaround |
| 11:22.58 | luf | kerio: we have to fix it ASAP. |
| 11:22.59 | jonwil | if the wiki was working I would update http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages with annotations on which ones are worth cloning and which ones are not (for example cloning nokia-maps-core is pointless when there are better maps apps for the N900) |
| 11:23.25 | kerio | google-search-widged must be cloned! |
| 11:23.28 | kerio | *widget |
| 11:23.45 | kerio | otherwise how will i make a shortcut to the google homepage in hildon-home? |
| 11:24.46 | jonwil | and for example I suspect cloning evolution-data-server-addressbook-backend-sim would be of limited usefulness |
| 11:25.55 | kerio | jonwil: for which purpose? |
| 11:26.15 | jonwil | thats what I mean, there is no point in cloning that package |
| 11:26.24 | jonwil | because there is no use for having a clone of it |
| 11:26.54 | kerio | jonwil: *limited* use for having a clone of it |
| 11:27.00 | Pali | jonwil, yes, clone of evolution-data-server-addressbook-backend-sim is needed |
| 11:27.01 | kerio | unless it's statically linked |
| 11:27.13 | Pali | in maemo5 there is no support for copy to sim |
| 11:27.20 | Pali | you can copy only from sim |
| 11:27.25 | kerio | also, we might want to update evolution-data-server to a newer, incompatible version |
| 11:27.44 | luf | kerio: welcome in the hell. |
| 11:27.55 | Pali | kerio, our evolution server is fork of old version, but speed is still better then in upstream |
| 11:28.08 | luf | Pali: no it's not |
| 11:28.14 | Pali | not now? |
| 11:28.27 | Pali | I remember that fremantle fork was faster |
| 11:28.37 | jonwil | btw, I suspect that evolution-data-server-addressbook-backend-sim is not what we need for copy-to-sim |
| 11:28.53 | luf | Pali: there were some measurement and fremantle was one of the slowest ... |
| 11:29.00 | jonwil | I suspect we need to figure out how to use libsimpb0 |
| 11:29.05 | luf | I forget where ... |
| 11:29.12 | jonwil | i.e. cellular services daemon sim phonebook plugin |
| 11:29.21 | jonwil | which may not even support copy-to-sim at that level |
| 11:29.30 | jonwil | in fact, do we even know if cellmo supports copy-to-sim? |
| 11:29.32 | Pali | jonwil, in osso addressbook there is only button copy from sim |
| 11:29.35 | luf | freemangordon: Breaks is ignored by our build env :( |
| 11:29.46 | kerio | freemangordon: you bootlooped up, son! |
| 11:30.24 | luf | > grep Breaks debian/control |
| 11:30.24 | luf | Breaks: libxml2 (< 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5+0cssu1) |
| 11:30.24 | luf | > dpkg --info ../zlib1g_1.2.7.dfsg-13maemo1+0cssu1_armel.deb |
| 11:30.24 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.24 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.31 | jonwil | until we know if the cellmo and csd support copy-to-sim, doing anything with evolution doesn't help |
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| 11:30.51 | kerio | jonwil: csd even supports multiple connections at the same time! |
| 11:30.51 | Pali | jonwil: libtime, clockd and systemui is priority |
| 11:31.01 | kerio | luf: try with << |
| 11:31.09 | kerio | Pali said there's a difference |
| 11:31.12 | luf | kerio: it's my mistake (the bootloop) |
| 11:31.29 | kerio | only your mistake? |
| 11:31.45 | luf | Yes. |
| 11:31.53 | jonwil | well I cant do libtime, clockd or systemui |
| 11:31.58 | jonwil | so I am looking for something else to do |
| 11:32.11 | kerio | freemangordon: apparently, you didn't bootloop up |
| 11:32.16 | kerio | sorry about that |
| 11:32.24 | kerio | luf: have you tried with << instead of <? |
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| 11:33.08 | Pali | jonwil, libplayback |
| 11:33.25 | Pali | or systeminfo daemon |
| 11:33.26 | jonwil | whats special about libplayback? |
| 11:33.51 | Pali | jonwil, libplayback is needed if you want to play some music (e.g in OMP) in silent profile |
| 11:33.58 | jonwil | ok |
| 11:34.08 | Pali | or if you want to pause music playback when there is incomming call |
| 11:34.33 | jonwil | ok, so we know why we want to call this library. But whats the benefit of having an open clone? |
| 11:34.34 | luf | merlin1991: can you please remove the zlib1g from cssu-devel? |
| 11:34.45 | jonwil | There is already a -dev package for it |
| 11:35.23 | Pali | jonwil, yes but for open source media player you need 3rd nokia closed libary |
| 11:35.52 | Pali | and libplayback was reason why I needed to decompiled prolog code :D |
| 11:35.57 | jonwil | ok, and for sysinfo daemon, whats the benefit of having that open? |
| 11:36.22 | Pali | using phone info on other platforms (also on maemo) |
| 11:36.45 | Pali | if you want to retreive IMEI (and other stuff) you can do it only wit sysinfo |
| 11:37.00 | Pali | another closed daemon and library is omap3camd |
| 11:37.03 | jonwil | all sysinfo stuff comes from CAL |
| 11:37.22 | Pali | some SIM identifier not |
| 11:37.27 | Pali | (IMSI) |
| 11:37.46 | Pali | omap3camd is needed for camera |
| 11:37.54 | jonwil | best thing for camera is to use fcam (which IIRC can do camera on N900 without omap3camd) |
| 11:38.43 | Pali | really? |
| 11:38.48 | jonwil | I think so |
| 11:38.51 | Pali | omap3camd doing something with kernel |
| 11:39.05 | Pali | if you kill it image quality is bad... |
| 11:39.15 | Pali | but you still got image from camera |
| 11:39.50 | Pali | another closed daemon is alsaped |
| 11:44.03 | jonwil | I dont see anything in sysinfod (or rather the list provided by sysinfo-tool -l) that indicates IMSI |
| 11:44.11 | merlin1991 | luf: what's wrong with it? |
| 11:44.33 | jonwil | IMEI yes, IMSI no |
| 11:46.16 | kerio | merlin1991: can cause a bootloop due to wrong metadata |
| 11:46.27 | jonwil | IMSI comes from Cellular Services Daemon |
| 11:46.30 | jonwil | not sysinfo daemon |
| 11:46.46 | merlin1991 | starts the banhammer for zlib |
| 11:46.59 | kerio | namely, it's missing a Breaks: libxml12-0 (<< 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5+0cssu1) |
| 11:47.11 | kerio | if you can add that instead, it would be also fine |
| 11:47.34 | jonwil | I have checked and all things that sysinfod supports all come from CAL |
| 11:47.40 | kerio | er, wtf |
| 11:47.42 | kerio | libxml2 |
| 11:47.53 | kerio | not sure where the 12-0 came from |
| 11:48.26 | merlin1991 | luf: removed |
| 11:48.27 | kerio | [general notice] if you installed the new zlib1g from cssu-devel, make sure you've also installed the latest libxml2 from cssu-devel, or you'll get a bootloop |
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| 11:52.06 | jonwil | ok, so going through the list, alsaped was suggested as needing reverse engineering but its too complex for me. |
| 11:52.36 | jonwil | bluetooth-sysinfo was done by me already :) |
| 11:53.11 | jonwil | clockd I cant do because I cant test all its functionality |
| 11:54.20 | jonwil | connui-* has thus far eluded my efforts to reverse engineer any of it |
| 12:00.36 | jonwil | with regards to evolution-data-server-addressbook-backend-sim |
| 12:01.11 | jonwil | it seems like that library is calling e_book_backend_set_is_writable |
| 12:01.14 | jonwil | e_book_backend_set_is_writable(true) |
| 12:01.19 | jonwil | so its already able to write to the SIM phonebook |
| 12:02.22 | jonwil | so no changes are needed to evolution-data-server-addressbook-backend-sim to handle phonebook write, just need to change addressbook code itself to handle write to sim I think |
| 12:02.53 | jonwil | moving down the list we have facebook-* which I wont be touching since I hate Facebook and refuse to have an account there :P |
| 12:07.25 | jonwil | as for google-search-widget it would be easier (for someone with GTK skills) to write a new widget that does the same thing than it would be to reverse engineer it |
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| 12:09.52 | jonwil | All the widget does is launches http://www.google.com/m?client=ms-nokia-maemo in the browser |
| 12:10.31 | jonwil | all of the useful bits of hildon-im-* have been done already IIRC |
| 12:11.50 | jonwil | libcityinfo is useless to clone without the underlying data that it uses (which we cant just copy from Nokia) |
| 12:16.40 | luf | merlin1991: because package Breaks doesn't work :( |
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| 13:00.25 | luf | kerio: I uploaded fixed zlib package into cssu-devel. |
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| 13:05.17 | luf | kerio: can you test refreshed zlib? I tested it and it can't install without proper libxml2 now. |
| 13:05.40 | kerio | if you used Conflicts i'll be mad >:c |
| 13:05.51 | luf | Feel free to be mad ;) |
| 13:06.00 | luf | Better than bootloops. |
| 13:06.28 | kerio | you could've waited for gregoa to wake up and report |
| 13:06.35 | kerio | you *should've |
| 13:06.37 | luf | And you can take a look into history that gregoa suggested Breaks or Conflicts (Breaks doesn't work) |
| 13:06.57 | luf | kerio: you're bad boy :D |
| 13:07.18 | luf | I'm going to work manually ... |
| 13:08.22 | kerio | hm, i think he said that Breaks *should've* worked with our version of the tools |
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| 13:09.54 | luf | kerio: ok I see that Conflicts ins't nice :D |
| 13:11.00 | kerio | luf: why? what happens? |
| 13:11.05 | luf | however it works : |
| 13:12.13 | kerio | luf: hm, it's missing the Conflicts with zlib1 and zlib1g-udeb |
| 13:12.20 | kerio | the stock zlib1g had that |
| 13:12.25 | kerio | not sure if it'll change anything |
| 13:12.31 | luf | http://pastebin.com/PsgvvDUU |
| 13:12.44 | luf | leaving now |
| 13:13.09 | kerio | heh, maybe Breaks would give out a better message? |
| 13:13.25 | luf | kerio: Breaks doesn't work :( |
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| 13:14.53 | kerio | Breaks doesn't pass properly between source package and .deb, but maybe it would still be parsed correctly |
| 13:20.17 | Pali | please remove *udeb* packages |
| 13:20.30 | Pali | that is used only by debian installer |
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| 14:11.24 | gregoa | luf: "Breaks: libxml2 (<< 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5+0cssu1)" works in my scratchbox, i.e. it ends up in the binary package. "Breaks: libxml2 (< 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5+0cssu1)" leads to the warning "dpkg-gencontrol: warning: relation < is deprecated: use << or <=" and then I have "Breaks: libxml2 (<= 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5+0cssu1)" in the binary package. [tested with some random package I had lying around not with zlib] |
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| 14:14.41 | kerio | gregoa: <3 |
| 14:15.05 | kerio | gregoa: are you sure you have the original tools in your scratchbox, though? |
| 14:16.46 | gregoa | kerio: that's indeed a good question -- what "original" means :) |
| 14:16.58 | kerio | merlin1991: btw, can you add some CNAMEs to your dns records? and possibly some rewrite rules on your web server - i'd love to use urls like cssu-testing.merlin1991.at |
| 14:17.12 | kerio | for the repos |
| 14:17.28 | jonwil | still stuck for what to reverse engineer next... :P |
| 14:17.32 | gregoa | kerio: I mean I'm quite sure I have a clean scratchbox but it's possible I've created it from a newer however-thats-called than luf |
| 14:17.42 | kerio | so i can understand wtf is going on with apt-cache policy |
| 14:18.01 | kerio | gregoa: do you reckon there's a way to make apt show the full repo URLs rather than just the hostname? |
| 14:18.06 | gregoa | right, apt-cache policy output is mostly useless |
| 14:18.41 | merlin1991 | kerio: hm what does a a browser send to the server when it follows a cname? |
| 14:18.46 | gregoa | kerio: not sure, at least I don't remember right now, and I know that I had this question myself before. there might be something else ... |
| 14:19.03 | kerio | merlin1991: the hostname - in this case, it would be cssu-testing.merlin1991.at |
| 14:19.09 | kerio | not maemo.merlin1991.at :) |
| 14:19.21 | merlin1991 | hm well for cssu-testing that isn't going to work |
| 14:19.28 | merlin1991 | ham is a bitch ;) |
| 14:19.32 | kerio | not without some configuration, yes |
| 14:19.34 | kerio | on your part, i mean |
| 14:19.48 | merlin1991 | nah I mean on the n900 hand |
| 14:19.51 | merlin1991 | part |
| 14:20.02 | kerio | well, we could eventually change the URLs in community-ssu-enabler |
| 14:20.05 | gregoa | btw, what this "Breaks" question shows is IMO clearly that we want to have all packages for all repos (re)built on some autobuilder with a defined and clean environment. directly installing packages that someone has built on their machine has led to problems and will lead to problems |
| 14:20.16 | merlin1991 | on my part it's a simple add cname ln -s in the /srv/http/ dir and rndnc reload merlin1991.at :D |
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| 14:21.11 | kerio | merlin1991: but then the url will be community-devel.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel |
| 14:21.13 | kerio | and that's ugly :( |
| 14:21.34 | merlin1991 | err no |
| 14:21.55 | kerio | oh you're going to move the directory too? neat |
| 14:22.07 | merlin1991 | kerio: my setup is /srv/http/$hostname/STUFF |
| 14:22.17 | kerio | if we want to follow the debian structure, it should be community-devel.merlin1991.at/maemo/ |
| 14:22.22 | kerio | although it doesn't make much sense |
| 14:22.33 | kerio | so maybe just on the / |
| 14:22.36 | merlin1991 | so if I ln -s /srv/http/$oldpath /srv/http/$newhost then it's all nice and shiny |
| 14:23.09 | Pali | merlin1991, luf, freemangordon, call 'echo 188.117.59.202 wiki.maemo.org >> /etc/hosts' to update maemo wiki |
| 14:23.12 | kerio | ln -s /srv/http/maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel /srv/http/community-devel.merlin1991.at |
| 14:23.14 | Pali | and we can start use it |
| 14:23.33 | merlin1991 | kerio: exactly :D |
| 14:23.38 | kerio | also add one for extras-devel-light pls |
| 14:23.58 | merlin1991 | pick a name ;) |
| 14:25.47 | kerio | ln -s /srv/maemo.merlin1991.at/light/extras-devel/ /srv/extras-devel.merlin1991.at |
| 14:25.54 | merlin1991 | hm I should rework my dns setup anyway, atm it's a bunch of A and AAAA entries, I should put cnames with a higher ttl and A for merlin1991.at |
| 14:27.34 | jonwil | Pali: thanks for the link to the wiki |
| 14:27.59 | jonwil | If I have that entry in /etc/hosts and am pointing to the new wiki |
| 14:28.05 | jonwil | would it then be safe to edit it? |
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| 14:30.21 | jonwil | but yeah I think I will see what libplayback looks like :) |
| 14:30.42 | kerio | merlin1991: and cssu-thumb too! |
| 14:32.50 | jonwil | damn, libplayback is using an opaque structure |
| 14:33.50 | jonwil | but its definatly something reverse-engineerable I hope |
| 14:35.42 | merlin1991 | http://extras-devel.merlin1991.at/ |
| 14:35.59 | kerio | :D |
| 14:36.04 | merlin1991 | the others I don't really want todo because you'd have to change the cssu enabler AND we'd run into the ipv6 problems again |
| 14:36.14 | kerio | k |
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| 14:39.26 | kerio | it doesn't really help with the apt-cache policy problem then, does it? :c |
| 14:39.50 | kerio | meh, i suppose that now the packages with "thumb" in it are from -thumb and the ones without are from -devel |
| 14:39.57 | kerio | so it did help, in a way |
| 14:53.15 | merlin1991 | it got rid of 33% of the possible entries (in a way) |
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| 15:22.59 | Pali | kerio, do you have bootmenu installed? |
| 15:23.00 | Pali | I mean original or modified fanoush bootmenu script /bootmenu.sh |
| 15:23.10 | kerio | i do |
| 15:23.18 | kerio | with backupmenu and recovery console |
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| 15:24.05 | Pali | I have open source replacement for text2screen, cal-tool and key_pressed binaries |
| 15:24.17 | Pali | text2screen is used in bootmenu for rendering text |
| 15:24.25 | Pali | do you want to try it? |
| 15:24.51 | Pali | (text2screen & cal-tool comes from opendsme project, key_presses was written by me) |
| 15:25.08 | Pali | I created debian package for it |
| 15:25.31 | kerio | hm, not right now |
| 15:25.33 | kerio | i'm pooping |
| 15:41.36 | Skry | need scissors? |
| 15:43.00 | jonwil | ok, I have been looking at libplayback and have come to the conclusion that its easiest to either use it as-is (the fact that its closed-source shouldn't make a difference to anyone except the most fanatical OSS zealots and I doubt anyone like that is using the N900) or to use the dbus interfaces (e.g. org.maemo.Playback) directly |
| 15:43.05 | jonwil | Its clonable |
| 15:43.12 | jonwil | but annoying |
| 15:43.31 | jonwil | i.e. its too annoying to be worth the effort since changing it isn't something we have a reason to do |
| 15:44.01 | jonwil | and since its really only a wrapper around some dbus stuff where the other end of the dbus link is open |
| 15:45.41 | Skry | I prove your doubt about fanatic zealots not using N900 wrong |
| 15:45.49 | jonwil | naybe |
| 15:45.53 | jonwil | maybe |
| 15:46.41 | jonwil | but there are far more important closed things on the N900 for people who care to complain about than libplayback :) |
| 15:47.08 | jonwil | What we need to look at is cases where there is genuine value in cloning them |
| 15:47.21 | jonwil | e.g. cloning clockd/libtime is definatly worth it (and I would do it if I could) |
| 15:49.17 | Skry | sure, not complaining am I? I even welcome messy code with great joy and praise :) |
| 15:54.15 | jonwil | :) |
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| 18:12.05 | luf | gregoa: Can you give me the package? I'll try it also. Maybe I did something wrong |
| 18:12.36 | luf | gregoa: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/zlib/ - here you can check how I did it (HEAD~2) |
| 18:14.13 | luf | Pali: (zlib) udeb package is also in original maemo 1.2.3. So I did as few changes as possible. |
| 18:15.02 | Pali | ok |
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| 18:29.24 | luf | Pali: if you're sure about it I can try to comment it out (or remove) |
| 18:29.56 | kerio | it's probably an upstream residual |
| 18:30.05 | kerio | fremantle is loosely based on... etch? |
| 18:33.32 | luf | kerio: I know but during upgrade I use the way of minimal changes ... |
| 18:34.34 | kerio | luf: anyway, gregoa made the Breaks information work fine |
| 18:42.12 | luf | kerio: I see he said it's ok for him. |
| 18:42.34 | luf | But it doesn't work for me or freemangordon. |
| 18:43.08 | kerio | gregoa: reveal us your magic |
| 18:44.38 | luf | gregoa: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/zlib/blobs/15518257be7ee967b07ea8fc7cc8b632fe593460/debian/control - this didn't work for me and freemangordon |
| 19:10.22 | freemangordon | luf: hmm? |
| 19:11.03 | freemangordon | aah, come on, not again :( http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2798897 |
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| 19:14.06 | freemangordon | at least we have the sources tvis time https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/maemo-security-certman |
| 19:16.17 | Sicelo | sucks |
| 19:16.37 | freemangordon | merlin1991: http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2013/01/enhancing-digital-certificate-security.html |
| 19:16.59 | freemangordon | (all others too) ^^^ |
| 19:20.41 | freemangordon | merlin1991: do you mind to post on TMO about it? |
| 19:22.42 | Pali | I read about TURKTRUST too |
| 19:22.57 | Pali | can we blacklist that CA? |
| 19:24.17 | freemangordon | Pali: can we?!? WE MUST, if nor the whole CA, then at least the certificates in question. |
| 19:24.23 | freemangordon | s/nor/not/ |
| 19:25.00 | freemangordon | though if goggle/M$/mozilla blacklist the root cert, we have to follow |
| 19:26.19 | Pali | ok, do you know how to do in that maemo package? |
| 19:27.37 | freemangordon | I don't, was just looking at https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/maemo-security-certman/commit/fc21ae95be7f44189be2360d445f4fe3f10ab712 |
| 19:27.46 | freemangordon | this is for diginotar |
| 19:27.55 | freemangordon | shouldn't be that hard |
| 19:28.09 | Sicelo | debian is considering to remove the whole root |
| 19:28.36 | freemangordon | well, maybe we should do the same then |
| 19:28.55 | Pali | ok, we should release stable cssu ASAP |
| 19:28.58 | Sicelo | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=697366 |
| 19:29.05 | Pali | with blacklisting that ca |
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| 19:44.25 | freemangordon | Pali: stable? what about -testing :P |
| 19:46.15 | freemangordon | going to make a thread on TMO, we can at least inform the "users" :) |
| 19:57.28 | freemangordon | Pali: I think it is merlin1991/chemist to decide whether we will remove the whole CA or just compromised root certificates |
| 19:58.19 | freemangordon | though TBH I tend to agree with the reporter on bogs.debian.org - this guys were aware of the issue back in 2011 and did nothing :( |
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| 20:03.11 | Raimu | Humm, another cssu-devel update that messed up ext4 optfs today. |
| 20:06.20 | Raimu | Sorry -- didn't mess as much as rewrote ext3 where ext4 was written and rebootlooped my n900. |
| 20:06.59 | kerio | Raimu: eventually CSSU should fix the fstab situation |
| 20:07.18 | kerio | hold on, can't ext4 be automatically identified? |
| 20:07.26 | Raimu | Yup. It's easy to manually fix after updates for now. |
| 20:07.47 | kerio | Raimu: it's just one place, right? |
| 20:08.05 | kerio | rcS-late, where /home is mounted |
| 20:09.01 | kerio | didn't apt-get ask for confirmation, though? |
| 20:09.35 | freemangordon | Raimu: could you send a patch to Pali, I think it should be no problem to include it in CSSU |
| 20:09.54 | Raimu | Naw, it overwrote genfstab.awk I think? |
| 20:10.22 | freemangordon | kerio: afaik ^^^ is not a config file |
| 20:10.27 | kerio | Raimu: ah yes, it does mount /home |
| 20:10.41 | kerio | freemangordon: yeah, it's in /usr/lib |
| 20:10.55 | kerio | Raimu: i just have if falsed the block that autogenerates the fstab |
| 20:11.08 | freemangordon | why apt should ask then? |
| 20:11.20 | kerio | freemangordon: i just figured out the problem |
| 20:11.25 | kerio | rcS-late doesn't do the explicit mount |
| 20:11.26 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 20:12.33 | Raimu | kerio, suggest a way to make it a non-issue for me too if you can? |
| 20:12.52 | Raimu | If-falsing which piece of scripting? |
| 20:12.59 | kerio | Raimu: "if false; then" before # Generate fstab and mount /home |
| 20:13.06 | kerio | "fi" after "rm -f $tmp_fstab" |
| 20:13.10 | kerio | in /etc/event.d/rcS-late |
| 20:14.33 | Raimu | Thanks. |
| 20:14.48 | Raimu | freemangordon: I would if I was dapper enough with scripting |
| 20:14.55 | gregoa | luf, kerio: sorry, I can't give you the package because it was just some random package in ~/src/ in my scratchbox, and I've removed the changes again. but I didn't do anything else than you, i.e. add the Breaks line to the binary package and run dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us |
| 20:15.07 | kerio | gregoa: i didn't mean the package, i mean YOUR MAGIC |
| 20:15.18 | kerio | or possibly the version of dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:16.27 | gregoa | kerio: re magic: :) |
| 20:16.41 | gregoa | kerio: the question with the version is probably relevant indeed |
| 20:16.50 | kerio | Pali: do you reckon we could add an official way to disable the fstab generation in rcS-late? |
| 20:17.09 | kerio | like if the file /etc/default/no-auto-fstab exists |
| 20:17.11 | gregoa | kerio, luf: ii dpkg-dev 1.14.25maemo3+0m5 |
| 20:24.52 | luf | gregoa: same here |
| 20:25.32 | luf | ii dpkg-dev 1.14.25maemo3+0m5 Debian package development tools |
| 20:29.34 | Pali | FOR ALL: if you changing any file that is in /usr, first divert origin file and then edit it. system files which come from package system can be replaced without warnings!!! |
| 20:29.42 | kerio | indeed |
| 20:29.49 | kerio | well, you'll get a warning |
| 20:29.52 | Pali | for diverting use: $ sudo dpkg-divert --local --rename --add <file> |
| 20:29.56 | kerio | usually, apt-get telling you that it's about to update a package :) |
| 20:30.36 | gregoa | luf: well, then I'm running out of ideas |
| 20:30.47 | Pali | and about fstab problem: I think we can use autodetection for each partition (and fallback to default values if autodetection not work) |
| 20:31.05 | kerio | Pali: when generating the fstab each time? |
| 20:31.07 | Pali | ke-recv already doing it via HAL for SD card and for devices in usb host mode |
| 20:31.10 | kerio | but i don't want to generate the fstab each time :( |
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| 20:31.41 | Pali | only when not exists is good idea too |
| 20:32.24 | kerio | why is it even autogenerated, anyway? |
| 20:32.38 | Pali | no idea |
| 20:32.42 | Pali | ask somebody from nokia |
| 20:32.52 | luf | gregoa: can you try to make a zlib package from gitorious? |
| 20:32.53 | Pali | or somebody who remember pr1.0 |
| 20:32.58 | kerio | if we wanted to update it, we could just update base-files |
| 20:33.40 | gregoa | luf: I can try but how does this help? |
| 20:33.56 | luf | To see if it's in my env or mistake in zlib. |
| 20:34.28 | luf | gregoa: HEAD~2 commit as I commited the workaround with Conflicts. |
| 20:34.50 | gregoa | ok ... |
| 20:38.54 | gregoa | luf: first attempt: fails to build with "dpkg-gensymbols: error: cannot open debian/zlib-core.symbols: No such file or directory" *sigh* |
| 20:41.06 | luf | strange I rebuild it without problem. |
| 20:41.37 | kerio | Pali: crazy: disable the autogeneration of /etc/fstab |
| 20:41.56 | kerio | it's not like it can change from a boot to another, without changing the .awk file |
| 20:44.46 | ShadowJK | It used to be able to change before devs started crying like little children that they don't know how to install stuff anywhere else than /usr, and Nokia had to move stuff to /home /opt to make room, after which the "use nand and usd if emmc is broken" logic stopped working and went away |
| 20:45.06 | gregoa | luf: I now removed the 2 includes from the symbols file in order to build it. the resulting binary has this info: https://paste.debian.net/222025/ |
| 20:45.47 | luf | gregoa: so the problem is in the build env ... |
| 20:46.07 | luf | what dpkg version do you have? |
| 20:46.24 | gregoa | luf: the same I pasted half an hour ago :) 1.14.25maemo3+0m5 |
| 20:46.50 | luf | gregoa: You pasted dpkg-dev ... |
| 20:46.58 | luf | But it's the same. |
| 20:47.06 | gregoa | luf: yes because that's the relevant one :) (and the same) |
| 20:48.52 | luf | gregoa: dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us - give me: dh_testroot: You must run this as root (or use fakeroot). |
| 20:49.14 | luf | What sb env are you using? I'm using the virtual guest from Nokia. |
| 20:50.11 | gregoa | puh, difficult question. I set this up years ago. with the debian packages for scratchbox and then some fremantle-target following some instructions |
| 20:51.32 | gregoa | luf: does this help: http://paste.debian.net/222026/ ? |
| 20:52.21 | luf | Yes. |
| 20:52.29 | luf | Devkits: perl debian-etch qemu doctools svn git |
| 20:52.37 | luf | This is the difference. |
| 20:53.18 | gregoa | so s/etch/squeeze/ hm. interesting. |
| 20:54.03 | gregoa | but still you see the same dpkg* version. -- and then something else is used behind your back? -- I guess we need someone who understand scratchbox better :/ |
| 20:54.23 | freemangordon | gregoa: seems your SB is outdated, what is the version of scratchbox-core? |
| 20:54.45 | gregoa | freemangordon: 1.0.27 |
| 20:55.02 | freemangordon | the fuck?!? here it is 1.0.17 |
| 20:55.14 | gregoa | freemangordon: and I had it in my sources.list until the host went down in december (?) ... |
| 20:55.32 | freemangordon | gregoa: latest for SB1 is 1.0.17 AFAIK |
| 20:55.45 | freemangordon | could it be you have SB2 installed? |
| 20:56.08 | gregoa | not that I know of ... |
| 20:56.14 | freemangordon | weird |
| 20:56.42 | gregoa | at least I don't find any packages on my host with scratchbox2* or sb2* |
| 20:57.23 | freemangordon | gregoa: though luf is right, now way to build in SB (here) without -frakeroot parameter to dpkg-buildpackage |
| 20:57.32 | freemangordon | s/now/no/ |
| 20:58.34 | gregoa | freemangordon: oh, interesting. |
| 20:59.19 | gregoa | ah, the sb.org repo works again: https://paste.debian.net/222027/ |
| 21:00.49 | freemangordon | gregoa: see, the first is 1.0.18 |
| 21:00.55 | freemangordon | so you have SB2 |
| 21:01.24 | gregoa | freemangordon: 1.0.x is sb2? wow |
| 21:01.32 | freemangordon | SB1 is aphophis or something, can't remember the exact name |
| 21:01.55 | gregoa | Apophis according to http://www.scratchbox.org/download/ |
| 21:01.55 | freemangordon | gregoa: ofc I could be talking bullshit :D:D:D |
| 21:02.18 | gregoa | ah, and this is Hathor: http://www.scratchbox.org/download/scratchbox-hathor/ |
| 21:02.20 | freemangordon | right, so fremantle SB is apophis |
| 21:02.32 | freemangordon | and you have hathor |
| 21:03.04 | freemangordon | (at least it is apophis in vmware SDK images from nokia) |
| 21:03.09 | gregoa | don't tell this to the fremantle_armel target in my SB :) |
| 21:03.21 | freemangordon | ok, i'll keep it secret :P |
| 21:03.44 | gregoa | well, yes, those images are not exactly fresh. and I followed some maemo instructions to set this up ~2,5 years ago ... |
| 21:04.04 | gregoa | (and probably replaced etch with squeeze devkit while following along) |
| 21:04.24 | freemangordon | gregoa: well, they are fresh(the images), SDK's been updated after PR1.3 |
| 21:04.52 | freemangordon | latest SDK host OS is lucid |
| 21:05.01 | kerio | >ubuntu |
| 21:05.05 | freemangordon | yes |
| 21:05.29 | gregoa | I guess that was http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Installing_Maemo_5_SDK_on_32-.2F64-bit_Debian.2FUbuntu-based_distributions which points to http://www.scratchbox.org/download/scratchbox-hathor/ right at the beginning |
| 21:05.54 | freemangordon | I see |
| 21:05.56 | freemangordon | :( |
| 21:06.04 | gregoa | lucid ... 10.04 -- just 2.5 years old :) |
| 21:06.06 | kerio | well, it works-ish, isn't it |
| 21:06.26 | kerio | *doesn't |
| 21:06.39 | gregoa | I don't have problems with it, it's just that I can't reproduce luf's and freemangordon#s problems :) |
| 21:06.44 | freemangordon | gregoa: well, I am lost then. And I am not exactly SB guru :) |
| 21:06.58 | freemangordon | I don;t have problems ;) |
| 21:07.09 | kerio | i doubt anyone understands SB |
| 21:07.10 | freemangordon | luf: what problems had I? |
| 21:07.11 | kerio | not even the SB devs |
| 21:07.23 | kerio | freemangordon: Breaks isn't correctly parsed |
| 21:07.31 | freemangordon | kerio: what? |
| 21:07.33 | gregoa | freemangordon: I though you also couldn't get the Breaks added? |
| 21:08.01 | freemangordon | well, i build the package as it was on gitorious. TBH didn't check for warnings |
| 21:08.10 | freemangordon | which package was that? zlib? |
| 21:08.15 | kerio | freemangordon: zlib1g |
| 21:08.20 | freemangordon | i'll build it right now |
| 21:08.33 | kerio | well, not right now |
| 21:08.39 | kerio | it has Conflicts in the control file |
| 21:08.42 | freemangordon | why? |
| 21:08.43 | kerio | and not Breaks |
| 21:08.46 | kerio | because Breaks didn't work for luf |
| 21:08.50 | kerio | and didn't work in the past |
| 21:09.07 | freemangordon | kerio: I have the version here which is in -devel |
| 21:09.07 | luf | kerio: Breaks didn't work for freemangordon ;) and me too |
| 21:09.17 | freemangordon | aah, i see |
| 21:09.25 | luf | freemangordon: I reupload it due to missing Breaks. |
| 21:09.31 | freemangordon | could someone check zlib in cssu-devel |
| 21:09.31 | kerio | it caused a bootloop here and at pali's |
| 21:09.38 | freemangordon | this is the version i built here |
| 21:09.41 | kerio | it's been reuploaded, with a Conflicts |
| 21:09.42 | luf | freemangordon: kerio ended in bootloop see the histor |
| 21:09.52 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 21:09.59 | kerio | but it's not the right thing - if you try to install it, it prompts to delete ~everything |
| 21:10.04 | luf | Because zlib1g missing Breaks :( |
| 21:10.05 | freemangordon | could it be because libxml2 was not pulled? |
| 21:10.08 | kerio | a Breaks should be a bit more accomodating |
| 21:10.21 | kerio | freemangordon: yep, because there was nothing in zlib1g referring to libxml2 |
| 21:10.50 | gregoa | but still, a dist-upgrade should have installed at in parallel, no? |
| 21:11.01 | kerio | gregoa: dist-upgrade is horrendously broken |
| 21:11.10 | gregoa | what still confuses me is that we have the same dpkg* version _in_ sb |
| 21:11.13 | freemangordon | dpkg-genchanges: warning: unknown information field `Breaks' in input data in package's section of control info file |
| 21:11.14 | kerio | an upgrade should've installed it in parallel - but i have cssu-thumb pinned at 600 priority |
| 21:11.22 | freemangordon | ok, sorry, my bad |
| 21:11.32 | kerio | why is it unknown? :s |
| 21:11.34 | freemangordon | i've missed that :( |
| 21:11.37 | luf | freemangordon: my mistake ... |
| 21:11.47 | kerio | unless dpkg-genchanges is somehow the one from outside scratchbox |
| 21:11.54 | kerio | in which case, what the fuck SB |
| 21:13.09 | gregoa | kerio: that's my only conclusion too (that dpkg-* from sb itself (?) is used and not the one inside). very weird. |
| 21:14.24 | gregoa | ah, that's interesting: https://paste.debian.net/222031/ ← so there's a dpkg-genchanges in the scratchbox-devkits |
| 21:15.41 | gregoa | hm, have a said before that I want an autobuilder for each package that hits my n900? instead of different scratchboxes on individual machines *sigh* |
| 21:15.51 | kerio | a separate autobuilder? :o |
| 21:15.54 | luf | Ok so you don't use nokia's dpkg-dev version :) |
| 21:16.39 | gregoa | depends if the scratchbox-devkit-debian-squeeze package from scratchbox.org counts as nokia |
| 21:17.20 | luf | dpkg-genchanges --version ? |
| 21:17.28 | luf | Debian dpkg-genchanges version 1.13.25. |
| 21:17.43 | gregoa | which of the three? host / sb / "inside" sb? |
| 21:18.03 | kerio | what's "inside" sb? :o |
| 21:18.04 | luf | Where you run the dpkg-buildpackage ;) |
| 21:18.13 | kerio | isn't that scratchbox? |
| 21:20.03 | gregoa | luf, kerio: here we go with all 3: https://paste.debian.net/222038/ |
| 21:20.18 | kerio | the missing ssl cert for debian.net is annoying |
| 21:20.37 | kerio | they could really get a real certificate or something |
| 21:21.33 | gregoa | kerio: you could also use an OS that ships the cert :) |
| 21:22.20 | gregoa | luf: so interestingly we still have different version _within_ the sb |
| 21:22.30 | kerio | is it shipped on just os x? |
| 21:22.31 | kerio | er |
| 21:22.33 | kerio | wtf am i saying |
| 21:22.37 | kerio | is it only shipped in debian? |
| 21:22.49 | gregoa | probably |
| 21:39.51 | luf | freemangordon: ping |
| 21:49.02 | luf | Has someone stock bluez and can try to run: dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.btcond /com/nokia/btcond/request com.nokia.btcond.request.rfcomm_bind string:00:00:00:00:00:00 string:FTP |
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| 21:58.54 | luf | Don't try it :D It's neat. Even in sb is Diablo only bt-dbus.h :D |
| 22:00.17 | kerio | luf: what's that? |
| 22:03.43 | luf | It's even in meego git ... |
| 22:03.55 | luf | It's some dbus call to connect to BT device. |
| 22:04.13 | luf | Used in Diablo (only) in osso-gwconnect |
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| 23:55.23 | freemangordon | luf: pong |