IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20130102

00:00.07DocScrutinizer05after all if number->name works during call inbound, it can also get used during adding a number to arbitrary contacts, to detect twin entries
00:00.56DocScrutinizer05obviously that again is doomed to fail due to missing sourcecode of contacts app
00:02.46DocScrutinizer05much the same basic issue like with fixed hardcoded set of default fields shown with new contacts. Each time I have to add the same friggin "address" fields etc again when creating a new contact, I feel like smashing the N900 on elop's head
00:03.06DocScrutinizer05(though elop is innocent this single time)
00:05.54DocScrutinizer05also did you ever notice that the only way to read a freetext note added to a contact is to open the contact for editing?
00:07.05keriothe os x addressbook lets you choose which fields to display in editing mode, even without any data
00:34.48DocScrutinizer05alas this isn't os x
00:34.57DocScrutinizer05err
00:36.18DocScrutinizer05well, I should actually look into this *%$"G" contacts database, maybe the default empty record is in there and could get edited
00:37.37DocScrutinizer05GOD! would I like to change the default set if fields shown in a new contact
00:37.54DocScrutinizer05s/ if / of /
00:38.59DocScrutinizer05actually I couldn't think of any special complications in REing the contacts frontend
00:39.55DocScrutinizer05should probably be easier than even calendar
00:40.13DocScrutinizer05and a completely different class than dialer
00:43.04DocScrutinizer05probably I should check evolution
01:30.05RaimuIPS is a horrible ROM patching dinosaur
01:30.27RaimuNo way to discern if your ROM dump is the one the patch is created for
01:31.15RaimuIt just tells what bytes of the file to change into which and then good luck running the file
01:31.42RaimuIf there's like a different header than expected taking up space then IPS here patches the wrong bytes
01:32.24RaimuOr maybe the guys making the patch used a slightly older or newer dump of the ROM and hunting for that one you go
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01:53.49jonwil~seen pali
01:53.55infobotpali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 4d 14h 33m 43s ago, saying: 'freemangordon, do you know state of portrait keyboard?'.
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02:48.35gregoaDocScrutinizer05, keri: sketch for getting the first parapgraph of a wikipedia page as plain text for infobot: http://paste.debian.net/220949/ ; requires the not very standard Web::Scraper module
02:48.49gregoas/keri/kerio/
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07:59.34kerio:D
07:59.46kerionow i feel kinda bad for dissing perl
07:59.47keriobut not too much
08:05.55merlin1991luf: libxml2 is merged
08:06.39lufmerlin1991: I see in mailbox. Thanks. I'll put it into cssu-devel in near future also new libpng and hopefully zlib.
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08:13.06merlin1991luf:  you also might like this commit https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libcpaboutcssu/commit/cbd845fbc731bff84e8d5423e4fa5bca4121327f ;)
08:14.15lufOh no ... I'm not the grey man behind ... Now they know me :D
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09:22.57jon_yDocScrutinizer05: jon_y is good
09:31.39keriomy, how modest
09:34.50jon_ykerio: DocScrutinizer05 put DocScrutinizer, so my irc nick is fine too :)
09:35.15kerioi meant the absolute statement
09:35.26kerioinfobot: jon_y is <jon_y> jon_y is good
09:35.26infobotokay, kerio
09:35.35kerio~jon_y
09:35.35infobotfrom memory, jon_y is <jon_y> jon_y is good
09:35.41kerio:D
09:35.42jon_y:)
09:36.11jon_yI was referring to the bq2k query perl conversion
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10:05.27keriojon_y: i know :)
10:05.55kerio'twas a joke
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11:22.59luffreemangordon: to the /dev/mtd2 - the first line is interesting: [ 1118.429321] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
11:24.30keriodereferencing NULL, yay
11:31.36lufkerio: exactly ...
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11:59.58luf~seen pali
12:00.04infobotpali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 5d 39m 52s ago, saying: 'freemangordon, do you know state of portrait keyboard?'.
12:00.40kerioD:
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12:04.22lufkerio: it's KP52 ;) but maybe not the latest ...
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12:40.16kerioluf: yeah, prereleases don't have an actual version number
12:41.04lufkerio: are you sure? [  464.625366] KERNEL_VERSION=Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power52 #1 PREEMPT Fri Oct 12 16:06:34 CEST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux
12:41.29kerioluf: there are at least three KP52
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12:52.03freemangordonluf: could you pastebin /dev/mtd2 so I can take a look at it?
12:53.59luffreemangordon: sure
12:55.00freemangordonluf: BTW there is zlib repo on gitorious ;)
12:59.32luffreemangordon: I know.
13:00.11luffreemangordon: you don't need to wait for sources in git as I sent you the link to test the patch ...
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13:07.06freemangordonluf: I'll wait for the source in git, I want to do thumb branch too
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13:08.52lufIt will be better if you can test it without git. Maybe we don't want the patch in git ...
13:09.03luffreemangordon: ^^^
13:11.31freemangordonhmm, yeah, makes sense
13:11.40luffreemangordon: http://pastebin.com/F5cEt228
13:12.11luf3 times the same oops ;)
13:13.04luffreemangordon: however for sure I installed this kp52 some time prior the official release.
13:13.16freemangordonwhat you were doing?
13:13.25lufNothing special.
13:13.26freemangordonaah, make sure to upgrade
13:13.40freemangordonThere were some fixes
13:13.53lufOnce some dpkg -i (through sshd)
13:14.06freemangordoncharger connected?
13:14.22lufnetwork over usb.
13:14.40lufSo USB cable connected (N900 and PC)
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13:14.49freemangordonhmm, QtMobileHotspot?
13:15.28freemangordonhowever, install the latest KP52 and if the problem continues, report it again (to me and Pali)
13:15.29lufI don't think so. I'm going to check. Is it package name?
13:15.41freemangordonqtmobilehotspot iirc
13:15.55lufIt hasn't appeared again.
13:16.06lufJust 3 times in one day.
13:16.23lufBefore that the phone was fully discharged.
13:16.26freemangordondespite that, install the latest, Pali has fixed sume related stuff
13:16.35freemangordon*some
13:17.00lufThe first oops during charging. The last one was with nearly full battery.
13:17.10freemangordon^^^
13:17.17lufI see.
13:18.45luffor record: no QtMobileHotspot (checked with dpkg -l | grep hot)
13:19.46freemangordonluf: how do you setup USB netowrking?
13:20.45kerioluf: oh really? you installed kp52 before the official release? i would've never guessed
13:21.07kerioexcept for the fact that it still hasn't been released :)
13:24.57lufkerio: because of BT + NAP and bridge module ;)
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13:30.21jonwilAnyone here seen Pali lately or know if/when he is most likely to show up next?
13:33.36lufjonwil: It's just 5 days. Maybe some vacation as no regular school hours now ...
13:34.13jonwilquite possible :)
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13:47.21freemangordonluf: I am not sure NEON patch in zlib is used at all
13:47.43freemangordonat least there is no adler32.o in arm/ directory
13:48.00freemangordonaah, wai, it is #included
13:48.04freemangordon*wait
13:54.10amiconnHmm, somehow I can't install cssu-tjumb :\
13:54.28amiconnI tried the 1st step, but now HAM has no catalogs at all?
13:54.37kerioamiconn: HAM is being silly as usual
13:54.48kerioclose it, wait for the cpu usage to go down, start it again
13:55.35luffreemangordon: I hade the same feeling prior to include :D
13:56.25luffreemangordon: but there is no problem with test and qemu/sb should have problem with neon ... So I'm not sure if there is any neon opts.
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14:22.07amiconnkerio: Seems to have worked now, thanks!
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14:27.28amiconnThumbified fennec doesn't seem to be any faster than plain fennec though (iow, still unusable)
14:28.18kerio:(
14:32.32amiconnIt's not a real problem, since I'm using opera mobile 95% of the time anyway (and maybe 5% microb - due to needing flash or ovi compatibility)
14:33.36kerioweird, i can't stand opera
14:34.15amiconnIt's the fastest browser on N900 by far
14:34.29keriomicrob is fast enough
14:34.58kerioand i doubt that opera mobile can actually deal with weird websited
14:35.00kerio*sites
14:35.05amiconnMicrob is considerably slower, but still okay
14:35.27amiconnOpera mobile has page reflow, which is really useful
14:37.25amiconnBtw, does cssu-thumb have thumbified microb?
14:37.38keriothe rendering engine, not the UI
14:37.49keriothe UI is closed
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15:38.16freemangordonkerio: and it is the engine that matters in terms of speed usually
15:38.47luffreemangordon: have you noticed any speedup with the zlib and the patch from meego? :)
15:39.06freemangordonno :(. well, some 2-3 %
15:39.19freemangordongcc does it better with -O3
15:39.33freemangordonluf: BTW -Os is size
15:39.42freemangordon-O2 is better
15:40.58freemangordonluf: that NEON patch does not worth the bytes used to be stored on the device :D:D:D
15:41.38freemangordonluf: BTW did you see the comments from the author, something like "I don;t have ARM device nearby, so I didn;t test my code" :D
15:42.49freemangordonluf: we'd rather use gcc 4.7.2 with -ftree-vectorize -ffast-math to produce assmby output and use that
15:42.54freemangordon*assembly
15:43.51freemangordonluf: did you try code aurora patch?
15:44.11luffreemangordon: so change -O2 flag and don't use the patch. To be honest I don't study this patch very deeply as I get it from meego repository.
15:45.02freemangordonluf: I still think NEON could be useful, if we only can find a good code
15:45.16luffreemangordon: Yes I tested code aurora patch. It's in history (it's slower), I hope we both are talking about the fast patch.
15:45.38freemangordonI am using the source in your home dir
15:45.49luffreemangordon: np about NEON.
15:46.11luffreemangordon: You can read it in changelog what I tested and doesn't work :)
15:46.44lufhttps://gitorious.org/0xdroid/external_zlib/commit/5d42d250693f443ba3ad0f663d269177b2d02300/diffs - this codea aurora patch just slow down the deflate.
15:46.55freemangordonluf: BTW i'll google around if I can find something better
15:47.07freemangordonwell, adler is used only in decompress aiui
15:47.17luffreemangordon: ok.
15:48.13luffreemangordon: so the question is if the fixes in zlib 1.2.7 are enough to upgrade zlib on N900.
15:48.30freemangordonluf: wait, that patch is only partial
15:48.47freemangordonthere is code aurra adler neon implementation
15:49.04freemangordonluf: would you rephrase please
15:49.28freemangordonthe question that is
15:59.07luffreemangordon: I see no adler neon patch from code aurora.
16:01.18luffreemangordon: rephase: do we want upgrade zlib on N900 to 1.2.7 (without neon patch = without speed up)? There are just some fixes (mem_leaks - no proove if againist N900 1.2.3-9 code) and some new features.
16:01.53luffreemangordon: please post me the code aurora adler neon implementation. I can try it.
16:16.15freemangordonluf: ok
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16:17.26freemangordonluf: https://codereview.chromium.org/5176006/patch/1/2
16:17.56freemangordonhttps://codereview.chromium.org/5176006
16:20.22freemangordonluf: BTW this is against 1.2.3 :)
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16:59.59luffreemangordon: is it really different patch? When I took a look last time I think it's just subset of patches I tried.
17:00.15lufI'll try.
17:00.33freemangordonluf: don;t
17:00.44freemangordonI am porting it, will be ready in a couple of minutes
17:01.01luffreemangordon: I bet it'll help in that case :D
17:01.06freemangordonthe link you posted contains only fast_copy part
17:01.16freemangordondon't :P
17:01.26freemangordonyou'll lose your money
17:02.21lufI know that. I spent several hours or days on libpng with slowdown all the time and you tried one patch in few minutes and it saves 30%. It's the fact ;)
17:03.35freemangordonwell, I guess I am just lucky :D
17:03.50lufBTW to be honest I vote for zlib 1.2.7 as it's backword compatible (in public API/ABI). Unfortunatlly libxml2 used internal stuctures (but we have it patched now).
17:04.10freemangordonBTW I vote for 1.2.7 too
17:04.16luffreemangordon: don't belieave you're lucky. You're so good.
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