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| 08:58.02 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you want glibc from me? |
| 09:23.16 | freemangordon | merlin1991: do you have a list of updated packages for the last 2 -testing updates? |
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| 11:48.31 | chem|st | merlin1991: my key does not work still and I have no idea what the password was to your key... |
| 11:49.59 | kerio | try hunter2 |
| 11:50.02 | kerio | >:D |
| 11:51.01 | chem|st | merlin1991: forget it typo... |
| 11:52.25 | chem|st | xmas is and my gift is CSSU-Stable.5 |
| 12:09.25 | chem|st | o.O |
| 12:09.44 | chem|st | qt git push tells me to use the push url... wtf |
| 12:10.11 | chem|st | git:// is read-only |
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| 12:29.59 | freemangordon | chem|st: logon to gitorious before copying the address ;) |
| 12:30.05 | freemangordon | *login |
| 12:30.32 | freemangordon | you need ssh:// |
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| 12:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: you push S5? cooooool! :-D |
| 12:38.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | and happy xmess, to you all |
| 12:43.18 | kerio | happy saturnalia |
| 12:48.50 | chem|st | freemangordon: I pushed all others just fine! |
| 12:49.15 | chem|st | hmm update is uploaded but not showing on device... |
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| 12:50.47 | chem|st | thought the repo is still running... garage is r/o |
| 12:54.03 | chem|st | http://repository.maemo.org/community/pool/fremantle/free/m/mp-fremantle-community-pr/ |
| 12:54.17 | chem|st | there it is... so the buggy thing did not die on me |
| 12:54.51 | chem|st | http://repository.maemo.org/community/pool/fremantle/free/c/curl/ |
| 12:54.56 | chem|st | for all your love! |
| 12:55.02 | chem|st | hmm |
| 12:55.17 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: do you mind checking for upgrades? |
| 12:55.44 | chem|st | cssu5 is live I guess, my sisters device doesn't show it |
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| 12:59.36 | chem|st | hmm didn't edit the msg correctly... still showing 4.1 in ham :) however... do I care? |
| 12:59.48 | kerio | yes |
| 13:00.12 | chem|st | works for me... |
| 13:00.18 | kerio | otherwise this will be known forever as the release with the wrong version number |
| 13:00.49 | chem|st | version number in the info field |
| 13:01.06 | kerio | yes, that |
| 13:01.11 | kerio | imagine troubleshooting issues |
| 13:01.13 | chem|st | :) |
| 13:04.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: I wouldn't know where to "update" - I got no cssu-s installed on any device |
| 13:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway on the run to find out who's seeling milk and stuff at xmess day @ 14:00 |
| 13:05.09 | chem|st | ah... |
| 13:06.11 | chem|st | rewe |
| 13:07.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 13:07.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ttyl, or so |
| 13:45.56 | chem|st | anyone installed yet? |
| 13:51.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: rewe been a bummer |
| 13:52.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | though I heard others spreading the hoax as well |
| 13:53.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | fsck xmess, each single year |
| 13:56.23 | kerio | perhaps if you had done your shopping earlier... |
| 13:58.03 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: yes and the list: libmatchbox2 h-d systemui-dev powermenukey alarm-ui rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait profile status menu plugin glibc ke-recv upstart |
| 13:58.34 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: oh rewe also down at 12? |
| 13:59.00 | chem|st | merlin1991: an idea on not being able to push qt4? |
| 13:59.36 | merlin1991 | chem|st: what's the output of git remote -v ? |
| 13:59.59 | chem|st | origingit://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo.git (fetch) |
| 14:00.00 | chem|st | origingit://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo.git (push) |
| 14:00.33 | merlin1991 | git remote set-url origin git@gitorious.org:community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo.git |
| 14:00.36 | merlin1991 | and then it should work |
| 14:00.53 | merlin1991 | you have the git specific read only protocoll there ;) |
| 14:01.19 | merlin1991 | btw post the changelog into tmo if you didn't already |
| 14:01.26 | chem|st | thx |
| 14:01.28 | chem|st | uploaded |
| 14:01.46 | chem|st | I wrote what was updated and what introduced |
| 14:01.53 | chem|st | is a lazy basterd |
| 14:02.32 | chem|st | everything is pushed then |
| 14:03.20 | chem|st | and it seems to be working correctly |
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| 14:04.46 | chem|st | at least lib curl is now 7.26 |
| 14:05.29 | merlin1991 | fires up his S device |
| 14:07.28 | merlin1991 | hm what's /usr/lib/apt/methods/rred |
| 14:09.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: 1400 |
| 14:09.54 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: so you been doubled lucky too^^ |
| 14:10.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | yeah |
| 14:10.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | got me some Hmilk from a turkish shop, they are less mad |
| 14:11.13 | merlin1991 | ewghs haltbarmilch :/ |
| 14:11.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | indeed |
| 14:12.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol, in front of me there's a shop 'kerio' |
| 14:12.24 | kerio | wat |
| 14:12.28 | kerio | picture please |
| 14:12.41 | DocScrutinizer51 | ooh wait, keiro |
| 14:12.58 | kerio | aww :( |
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| 14:16.59 | merlin1991 | hm no snow here, but enough fog that visibility is cut at 50m :D |
| 14:18.51 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: anyway, here you are http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20121224_001.jpg |
| 14:25.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: here's even SUN |
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| 15:00.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: you fixed that version thingie? |
| 15:01.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: also you published the rollout on tmo? |
| 15:01.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | if not, I'll happily do that |
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| 15:17.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah, seen you did "announce" it already :-) |
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| 15:38.31 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yes to what? also, those are the packages in the latest -testing, i need those from the previos one too |
| 15:38.49 | merlin1991 | glibc |
| 15:39.02 | freemangordon | take it from -devel |
| 15:39.07 | merlin1991 | need .changes |
| 15:39.09 | merlin1991 | if you still have it |
| 15:39.28 | freemangordon | aah. i'll check |
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| 15:39.54 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo6; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5 | Meeting: 27th 1900UTC |
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| 15:40.10 | freemangordon | did anyone tested glibc with stock kernel? |
| 15:41.12 | merlin1991 | and last testing was: camera-ui, h-d, ke-recv, obexd, openssl, pulse, rtcom-eventlogger-async, status-area-orientationlock-applet |
| 15:41.28 | freemangordon | thanks |
| 15:44.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm, no .changes, can you generate it? I'll rebuild it in the meantime |
| 15:44.49 | merlin1991 | yeah I can |
| 15:45.32 | freemangordon | so, shall I build it then? |
| 15:47.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm, wait a bit, i'll check on one more place |
| 15:52.44 | freemangordon | merlin1991: i found some changes file |
| 15:53.00 | freemangordon | how to check if it is the correct one? |
| 15:53.38 | merlin1991 | the version is in there in plain text |
| 15:54.17 | freemangordon | yes, but I want to be sure |
| 15:55.03 | freemangordon | http://pastebin.com/JRswmVsX |
| 15:55.04 | merlin1991 | well compare the hashes inside with the .deb on devel |
| 15:55.22 | freemangordon | are those md5? |
| 15:55.25 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 15:55.38 | merlin1991 | apt hashes are md5 unless otherwise stated |
| 16:00.10 | merlin1991 | just realized that he wanted to check the new S |
| 16:00.13 | merlin1991 | doing it now :D |
| 16:00.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991: don;t have time to check hashes right now, but that seems to me like the correct file, I checked git history |
| 16:01.08 | freemangordon | the last commit there is the same as on gitorious |
| 16:01.27 | freemangordon | and file date is 1st of November |
| 16:04.04 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: got the ppoll test prog lying around somewhere? |
| 16:04.15 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yes |
| 16:04.36 | merlin1991 | could you throw it on the server? I'd like to check just to be sure :D |
| 16:06.54 | freemangordon | http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/ |
| 16:07.00 | freemangordon | both source and bin |
| 16:07.20 | merlin1991 | thanks |
| 16:07.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ask doc for help on hanging it fast |
| 16:07.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you arew aware you need a kernel too? |
| 16:07.57 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: wasn't a simple renice enough to get childspin hang quite fast? |
| 16:08.02 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: ofc :) |
| 16:08.04 | freemangordon | for ppoll to work as it should |
| 16:08.08 | freemangordon | ok :) |
| 16:08.12 | merlin1991 | afaik kp has the patch included |
| 16:08.26 | freemangordon | merlin1991: only KP52 iirc |
| 16:08.29 | freemangordon | Pali: ping |
| 16:08.36 | Pali | pong |
| 16:08.48 | freemangordon | Pali: which KP has ppoll/pselect patch? |
| 16:09.03 | Pali | 52 |
| 16:09.10 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ |
| 16:09.16 | freemangordon | nothing released |
| 16:09.45 | freemangordon | merlin1991: http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/kernel-cssu-ppoll/ |
| 16:09.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: err wait |
| 16:09.46 | merlin1991 | I could use kenrel-cssu-ppoll from the server then ;) |
| 16:09.51 | freemangordon | yes |
| 16:10.03 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: chldspin |
| 16:10.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: you need to run another concurring process with higher prio |
| 16:10.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you get preemption |
| 16:10.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | on childspin |
| 16:10.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 16:10.43 | merlin1991 | yeah so if I reduce the prio of childspin to something lower than usual anything like h-d could get preemption |
| 16:10.49 | merlin1991 | I think that was what you did |
| 16:11.10 | freemangordon | he did while[1]; do; done; |
| 16:11.16 | merlin1991 | ah :D |
| 16:11.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | what I did was running a while 1 do; :;done |
| 16:11.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | with a nice -5 |
| 16:11.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you may want to run 2-3 of those ^^^ |
| 16:12.00 | freemangordon | but usually 1 is enough |
| 16:12.18 | freemangordon | to hang chldspin in seconds |
| 16:12.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | you need to make sure to renice them to higher prio, otherwise it doesn't help |
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| 16:12.32 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 16:12.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | messybox is messed up wrt nice/renice |
| 16:12.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | once again and afaik |
| 16:13.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | I finally ended setting prio/niceness in top iirc |
| 16:13.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991: does what i put on pastebin is enough? |
| 16:13.58 | freemangordon | .changes |
| 16:14.00 | merlin1991 | should be enough |
| 16:14.05 | merlin1991 | everything else is in the repo |
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| 16:47.25 | kerio | freemangordon: are you also working on the next thumb release? :3 |
| 16:47.48 | freemangordon | kerio: will start tomorrow |
| 16:48.39 | freemangordon | I want merlin1991 to sinish, so I can base it on the new -testing |
| 16:48.43 | freemangordon | *finish |
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| 16:50.21 | kerio | k |
| 16:50.26 | freemangordon | merlin1991: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1307339&postcount=245 |
| 16:51.20 | merlin1991 | can't get childspin to lock, lol |
| 16:51.26 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: no version thingy I did not fix, yes on tmo |
| 16:51.48 | chem|st | it is only the version info shown on update screen |
| 16:52.09 | freemangordon | merlin1991: did you renice sh? |
| 16:53.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: check actual niceness of your concurrent busyloop in top |
| 16:53.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | messybox fooled the shit outa me when I tried to increase prio |
| 16:54.45 | merlin1991 | hm top does not show niceness here, you sure you meant top? |
| 16:54.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | chilspin ran ~120min without locking for me, until I managed to renice the busyloop. Then it locked instantly |
| 16:54.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | not sure |
| 16:55.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | though "f" |
| 16:55.10 | freemangordon | merlin1991: it shows "<" |
| 16:55.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | and 2shift-f" |
| 16:55.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | MY top shows PR and NI |
| 16:56.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | hit "f" key! |
| 16:56.23 | merlin1991 | hm it does show <, but childspin spinds away |
| 16:56.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | PRio is "H" |
| 16:56.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | NIceness is "I" |
| 16:57.19 | freemangordon | merlin1991: run 2-3 chldspin processes |
| 16:57.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, you're sure your *busyloop* is running with increaed niceness? |
| 16:57.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | err lowered niceness |
| 16:57.59 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: increased? |
| 16:58.02 | freemangordon | ok |
| 16:58.24 | freemangordon | merlin1991: run 2-3 busyloops too |
| 16:59.00 | freemangordon | merlin1991: once done, start rotating the device while on the desktop |
| 16:59.13 | freemangordon | (to have the transitions) |
| 16:59.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | wasn't needed for me |
| 16:59.48 | freemangordon | for me too, but helps |
| 16:59.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | once I did a proper renice -10 busyloop-process, childspin locked in 15s |
| 17:00.13 | merlin1991 | rotating did the trick |
| 17:00.25 | merlin1991 | busybox renice -5 wasn't enough |
| 17:00.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | you didn't really renice your busyloop then |
| 17:00.43 | freemangordon | merlin1991: try with -10 |
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| 17:00.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | busybox renice is a hoax |
| 17:00.58 | kerio | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1414106 oh linus <3 |
| 17:03.36 | freemangordon | i like his style :D |
| 17:04.02 | freemangordon | thanks gods it on the right side of the fence re systemd |
| 17:04.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: actually it's quite interesting to investigate what it needs to preempt childspin from another process |
| 17:04.20 | freemangordon | s/it/he is/ |
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| 17:07.33 | merlin1991 | damn family calling, releas will have to go tomorrow |
| 17:07.49 | chem|st | :) |
| 17:08.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAAAAAA |
| 17:08.51 | chem|st | x-mas scks! |
| 17:08.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Linus for president! will he marry me? ;-P |
| 17:10.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: xmess (SIC!) |
| 17:11.31 | kerio | merlin1991: tell them you have the shits |
| 17:13.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: thanks for sharing this golden URL |
| 17:14.05 | freemangordon | Pali: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=blob;f=drivers/power/rx51_battery.c;h=ca49d6c0ee9d6e0c51ee922416b10b5e594d46b9;hb=HEAD |
| 17:14.19 | Pali | I know |
| 17:14.33 | freemangordon | I didn't :) |
| 17:14.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | hi Pali! :-D |
| 17:15.03 | Pali | hi :-) |
| 17:15.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I recently pondered to appoint you and freemangordon for maemo developers of 2012 |
| 17:15.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 17:16.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | FWIW |
| 17:16.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 17:16.45 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: will I have a badge? :D:D:D |
| 17:16.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll do a few |
| 17:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | also t-shirts |
| 17:17.13 | freemangordon | ok, we got a deal then :P |
| 17:17.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | but you have to share a photo with you wearing it |
| 17:17.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | and nothing else ;-P |
| 17:18.37 | freemangordon | hmm, will thin about it. though I am bit of confused - you want to merry linus, now that... :P |
| 17:18.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | "I been THE maemo developer of 2012, and see what it got me" |
| 17:18.48 | freemangordon | *think |
| 17:19.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 17:19.22 | freemangordon | "Will code for food" |
| 17:19.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, actually my gf wouldn't bother me marrying Linus |
| 17:20.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I guess Linus would |
| 17:20.16 | freemangordon | however, got to go. night |
| 17:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | cya |
| 17:20.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | enjoy the *mess |
| 17:23.00 | kerio | night fmg |
| 17:54.44 | Pali | kerio, do you know if there is some cdc_ether driver for windows? |
| 17:55.03 | Pali | working usbnetwork with g_nokia on windows |
| 17:55.48 | kerio | idk, i don't use windows so i never had to document myself on that |
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| 22:32.57 | merlin1991 | chem|st: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1307381#post1307381 !! |
| 22:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: he noticed that, but refused to fix it ;-) |
| 22:36.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-24 16:00:36] <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: you fixed that version thingie? |
| 22:36.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-24 16:01:35] <DocScrutinizer05> chem|st: also you published the rollout on tmo? |
| 22:36.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-24 17:51:26] <chem|st> DocScrutinizer05: no version thingy I did not fix, yes on tmo |
| 22:36.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-12-24 17:51:48] <chem|st> it is only the version info shown on update screen |
| 22:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: you probably could hexedit it on repo server |
| 22:38.30 | merlin1991 | nope |
| 22:38.39 | merlin1991 | don't have access ;) |
| 22:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 22:38.57 | merlin1991 | also I'd have to adjust various md5 sums in various places |
| 22:39.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch |
| 22:39.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | rrright |
| 22:39.15 | merlin1991 | well I know the places, but still :D |
| 22:39.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | that hurts |
| 22:39.45 | merlin1991 | but I wouldn't trust apt, if there weren't at least a md5 check |
| 22:40.05 | kerio | dammit chem|st |
| 22:40.05 | merlin1991 | I mean yeah download this modem firmware in $package, I totally trust you that it's fine |
| 22:40.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, we can push a version S5.1, to fix the S5 HAM message ;-P |
| 22:40.25 | kerio | merlin1991: technically apt also checks for gpg signatures |
| 22:40.26 | merlin1991 | that's easier :D |
| 22:40.38 | kerio | but of course nokia is nokia |
| 22:41.06 | merlin1991 | kerio: that's another thing, it still doesn't help if I trust the source but still have nfc about the transport channel / integrity of the transmitted data |
| 22:41.20 | kerio | i said *also* |
| 22:41.31 | merlin1991 | and I said not so important ;) |
| 22:41.32 | kerio | besides, it would be hard to botch a transmission without botching a signature |
| 22:41.48 | kerio | it'd have to be a pretty lucky botch |
| 22:41.49 | merlin1991 | the signature is only on the relases file |
| 22:41.53 | kerio | D: |
| 22:41.58 | kerio | well, it's the file with the MD5s |
| 22:42.00 | merlin1991 | which in turn only has the md5 hashes of the packages files |
| 22:42.08 | merlin1991 | the package file has the md5s for the .debs |
| 22:42.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | cough |
| 22:42.35 | merlin1991 | well it's still sane enough |
| 22:42.40 | kerio | it's hashes all the way down! |
| 22:42.55 | merlin1991 | since apt will go foobar if you pad a pacakges file in order to get an md5 collision |
| 22:42.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | hash the world |
| 22:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders which file will contain its own hash in the end ;-P |
| 22:43.37 | merlin1991 | hasception! |
| 22:44.01 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: a big enough file will be a fixed-point for a hash function |
| 22:44.12 | kerio | no, wait, wtf am i saying |
| 22:44.29 | kerio | not necessarily |
| 22:44.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a nice math problem: find the file that contains its own md5 hash |
| 22:45.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, actually it's boring |
| 22:45.39 | kerio | what do you mean "contains"? |
| 22:46.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, if I would mean, 'consists of' it was challenging |
| 22:46.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | 'contains, anywhere, among lots of filler cruft' though is boring |
| 22:48.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | since you simply add random stuff at end of file, until grep `md5sum file` file returns success |
| 22:49.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you know this algo will barf up a solution eventually |
| 22:49.29 | merlin1991 | gotta find out if apt can do "ftp continue" on packages downloads |
| 22:49.41 | merlin1991 | or rather pdiff downloads |
| 22:50.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | does it even use ftp? |
| 22:51.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | isn't it more like http? |
| 22:51.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | wget |
| 22:51.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | or does that depend on the repo name, or whatever |
| 22:52.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~xmess |
| 22:52.24 | infobot | [xmess] the X Multi Emulator Superior System, http://x.mame.net/, or ask me about xmame |
| 22:52.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
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| 23:27.39 | kerio | merlin1991: pdiff downloads? |
| 23:28.03 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: it supports different transports |
| 23:28.11 | merlin1991 | ftp http and some others |
| 23:28.32 | merlin1991 | kerio: I meant downloads of the package diff files --> pdiff |
| 23:28.48 | kerio | pdiffs are small |
| 23:29.01 | kerio | i'm not even sure it's worth resuming their download |
| 23:29.03 | merlin1991 | depends on the repo |
| 23:29.25 | merlin1991 | and yes it is if you are doing some embeded crazy system that happens to run into fuck loads of roaming |
| 23:29.54 | kerio | if you're roaming, it's not worth downloading anything :3 |
| 23:30.04 | merlin1991 | sometimes you have to |
| 23:30.14 | merlin1991 | because only your equipment is roaming but not oyu |
| 23:34.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | OTA upgrade on spy equipment? ;-P |
| 23:36.23 | merlin1991 | that would be more fun |
| 23:36.29 | merlin1991 | but generally ota upgrade on roaming |
| 23:36.43 | merlin1991 | happens I might run into a use case for that @ work |
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