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10:47.56freemangordonPali: why did you drop the dependency on mce-dev for tklock?
10:48.11Palibecause is not needed
10:48.21Palino #define is used
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10:53.49freemangordonPali: aah, yes, it is alarmui that needs it
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10:54.09PaliI looked into diablo & harmattan mce
10:54.15freemangordonPali: would you try to fix tklock UI bug?
10:54.16Paliboth seems very very different
10:54.25Paliwhich bug?
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10:54.48freemangordonPali: the one we discussed during the meeting on Thursday
10:55.00PaliI forgot, can you give me link?
10:55.09freemangordonok, just a mnute
10:55.12freemangordon*minute
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10:57.05freemangordonPali: thats the original report:
10:57.07freemangordonhttp://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-12-12.log.html#t2012-12-12T13:23:34
10:57.18freemangordonPali: you need to have forced rotation disabled
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11:06.14Palihm, I have no idea how to fix that
11:06.57Palirotate screen to landscape before tklock is shown?
11:14.57Palifreemangordon, I added portrait flag for tklock window and I see that only problem is background image
11:15.43Palifreemangordon, and after that reported bug is not more reproducable
12:11.46tadzikso the new tklock will rotate, eh? :/
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12:15.21kerioPali: what should i test in the new profiled?
12:15.47Palikerio, if phone ringing :-)
12:15.58Paliif changing profile settings working
12:16.27Paliif vibration working (on new sms/email/im...)
12:20.27DocScrutinizer05meh, vib will work one all or none
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12:37.02freemangordonPali: makes no sense to enable rotation for tklock
12:37.28freemangordonPali: leave it, i'll take a look when have time
12:37.56PaliDocScrutinizer05, in profiled profile settings is stored if vibration is enabled or not
12:38.08Paliso need to test if that configuration working correctly
12:38.35Palifreemangordon, now I have portrait background for default theme (I edited it with gimp)
12:38.36DocScrutinizer05sure, but it will work for all of sms, call, mail alike
12:38.52Paliyes
12:39.02Palibut need to test if sound is played too :-)
12:39.05DocScrutinizer05no need to test each
12:39.09freemangordonPali: you need to do that for every theme out there ;)
12:39.24Palifreemangordon, look at hildon-application-manager
12:39.25DocScrutinizer05one working ->ok
12:39.43Paliit working only for two themes
12:39.45DocScrutinizer05probably that's what you meant
12:39.57Paliwe can disable autorotation if background file is missin
12:40.11freemangordonPali: then we'll hit the bug ;)
12:40.29PaliDocScrutinizer05, you can specify different sound and volume for im, sms and voice call
12:40.49DocScrutinizer05for vib?
12:40.57freemangordonPali: so, first thing we should do is to fix the bug and put the fixed version to -testing ASAP, as right now tklock leacks memory
12:40.59Paliand need to test if options which set maemo programs are compatible with new harmattan profiled
12:41.09PaliDocScrutinizer05, for sound/ringing
12:41.10freemangordon*leaks
12:41.22DocScrutinizer05[2012-12-15 13:16:26] <Pali> if vibration working (on new sms/email/im...)
12:41.22Paliok
12:41.37freemangordonPali: after that we can start playing with portrait mode and whatnot
12:41.44Paliok ok
12:41.58DocScrutinizer05I read that as  "if vibration working on new sms, email, and im"
12:42.04freemangordonPali: :)
12:42.14DocScrutinizer05you need to test only one of them
12:42.39Paliyes (there is only one key for vibration enabled or disabled)
12:46.56kerioPali: after installing profiled, i find myself with 4 profiles instead of two
12:47.03keriogeneral, meeting, outdoors, silent
12:47.16lufkerio: :)
12:47.50PaliI have that too
12:47.53keriohow do i check what they do?
12:48.01lufPali: I'll hopefuly test profiled tomorrow a bit.
12:48.03keriothe standard configuration UI doesn't see them
12:48.08freemangordonkerio: push the nutton
12:48.14lufkerio: profilesx package ;)
12:48.17Palikerio, install profileclient package
12:48.24freemangordon*button
12:48.28Paliprofileclient is console application which print configuration
12:48.38Palialso can change
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12:48.56lufBut profilesx use itself status menu plugin (same design/behaviour) as the new from Pali.
12:49.35lufI'm using more profiles for 2 years ;)
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13:10.28keriofreemangordon: "Silent" should appear in the powerkey menu, if the profile selected isn't silent
13:14.40keriohm, who decides that when in silent, applications don't have a right to play sounds?
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13:48.33gregoaso, how can I delete these new profiles? profilesx just waits when I press delete, and profileclient doesn't seem to have a delete option
13:52.36gregoa"profileclient -T" doesn't even show changes made in profilesx
14:01.10kerioi doubt you can delete them
14:03.23gregoaseems so. so this is a case of "I know better than you what's good for you"?
14:03.44gregoa(changes in profilesx seem to propagate though)
14:06.59keriohm, maybe it couldn't even handle that
14:07.15keriocheck what's going on between profilesx and profiled with dbus-monitor or something
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14:18.05Palinow I found that outdoors and meeting profiles are hardcoded into profiled binary (same as general & silent)
14:18.10PaliI will delete them
14:18.19Palifrom source code
14:18.23gregoaPali: thanks
14:21.01Palibtw, who is interesting, here is simple shell script which will generate valid debian source (DSC) package from debian binary (DEB): http://pastebin.com/ZPuYnZPr
14:21.36Paliusefull for rewriting Nokia closed/non-free packages
14:21.41Palifreemangordon, see ^^^^
14:22.35Paliscript name is "deb2dsc"
14:28.53DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# profiled --help
14:28.56DocScrutinizer05:-/
14:29.18DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# profilesx-util --help
14:29.22DocScrutinizer05:-//
14:30.18DocScrutinizer05hope you considered there might be users who got e.g. tweakr installed
14:34.28DocScrutinizer05ii  profile-data                                        0.0.6+0m5                                  configuration data for the profile daemon
14:34.30DocScrutinizer05ii  profiled                                            0.0.18+0m5                                 profile daemon, manages user settings
14:34.31DocScrutinizer05ii  profilesx                                           1.6                                        Extended Ringtone Profiles
14:34.33DocScrutinizer05ii  status-menu-applet-profiles                         0.12+0m5                                   Profiles status menu plugin
14:34.37DocScrutinizer05ii  maemo-applet-profiles                               0.56+0m5                                   Profile control panel applet
14:34.46DocScrutinizer05o.O
14:38.50DocScrutinizer05this /etc/profiled/90.nokia.ini looks kinda nice, but doesn't resemble anything I see in my actual profiles in use
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14:39.33DocScrutinizer05aah, there are of course other files as well
14:39.53DocScrutinizer0599.custom.ini is BS
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14:40.48DocScrutinizer05OH LOL! and 80.profilesx.ini contains 5 char: [STE]
14:40.54PaliDocScrutinizer05, profileclient
14:41.02PaliCLI application
14:41.45PaliDocScrutinizer05, [STE] means --> adding new profile with name STE
14:41.45DocScrutinizer05well /etc/profiled/* doesn't make any sense to me
14:41.52Paliwhy not?
14:42.00Palisimple ini style file
14:42.14Palieach profile is in [PROFILE] section
14:42.19DocScrutinizer05nothing in there represents anything of my currently used / available profiles
14:42.22Paliwith default values
14:42.39Palithat are system wide configs
14:42.49Paliuser settings are in ~/.profiled/
14:42.59DocScrutinizer05BWAHAHAHA sure
14:43.05DocScrutinizer05<- idiot
14:43.34Palionly small problem is that you cannot add new profile in user config file
14:43.49Paliyou can define new profile only in system wide /etc/profiled/
14:44.53DocScrutinizer05home/user/.profiled/custom.ini has a 25 lines of "###########################################################################"
14:45.04Paliseems like padding
14:45.47Pali~seen _nicolai_
14:45.52infobot_nicolai_ <~nicolai@rzpc118.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 395d 1h 28m 28s ago, saying: 'LaoLang_cool, clipman http://maemo.org/packages/view/clipman/'.
14:46.27Palibad :-(
14:55.43DocScrutinizer05Pali: padding? :-o
14:55.51DocScrutinizer05who needs padding nowadays?
14:56.05Palisee file sizw
14:56.07Pali*size
15:20.34DocScrutinizer05still don't get it
15:21.30DocScrutinizer05I mean, yeah, the "padding" makes for a filesize of 4096, but why t f it needs to be that size?
15:24.13keriosomewhere, something does a read() from that file to a 4096-characters buffer
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15:33.24kerioNIN101?
15:36.32DocScrutinizer05kerio: that's insane
15:36.47kerioo rlyu
15:36.48kerio*rly
15:38.42DocScrutinizer05read to a fixed size buffer, from a file that must have same size, without checking for EOF or other return code
15:39.05DocScrutinizer05I wonder what will happen if a make that file 80192
15:39.10DocScrutinizer05;-P
15:39.15DocScrutinizer05or 1 byte
15:39.38DocScrutinizer058192 but meh
15:40.14NIN101kerio: pong
15:40.37kerioNIN101: are you Guest13349?
15:40.47keriooh no, that's rd
15:41.39DocScrutinizer05netsplit with protect-nick and poor re-auth in client does that
15:43.09DocScrutinizer05nick-protection is more of a PITA than a benefit
15:43.09kerioDocScrutinizer05: znc 1.0 was released, and it has a native sasl module, btw
15:43.16keriowhich is awesome
15:43.40kerioyou're authed to nickserv even before the MOTD
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17:45.32DocScrutinizer05hmm, I always hoped that user:password would do that
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18:15.34kerioDocScrutinizer05: with user:password as the server password, it does identify, but later
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