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| 10:53.12 | Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, can you include package rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait to next -testing/thumb cssu metapackage? |
| 10:54.15 | Pali | it is already in devel and it adding support for portrait mode for messaging (if forcerotation or whitelist is enabled) |
| 10:54.36 | Pali | it is arch independent package, contains only css text files |
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| 11:09.31 | tadzik | where does this whitelist live? |
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| 11:22.16 | kerio | tadzik: transitions.ini |
| 11:25.52 | tadzik | I have no /white/ in any of my transitions.ini*. Is there some docs on how should it look like? |
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| 11:35.16 | kerio | tadzik: install the latest hildon-desktop and it'll be magically reset |
| 11:35.40 | tadzik | the latest being the one in -devel? I have the fresh cssu-testing |
| 11:36.10 | kerio | tadzik: it should be the one in the latest -testing, -Tmaemo6 |
| 11:36.49 | tadzik | I'm on -Tmaemo6, according to "About Community SSU" |
| 11:37.01 | kerio | then idk |
| 11:37.13 | tadzik | "reset" as in "it will modify my transitions.ini"? |
| 11:37.38 | kerio | it'll install the default transitions.ini |
| 11:37.43 | kerio | it's not marked as a configuration file afaik |
| 11:38.27 | tadzik | hm, odd |
| 11:38.40 | tadzik | well, I guess I'd care once I install the portrait conversations :) |
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| 13:09.25 | gregoa | kerio: transitions.ini is a conffile here. I got a prompt during the last upgrade, and: dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' hildon-desktop | grep transitions.ini |
| 13:14.48 | kerio | gregoa: hm |
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| 14:59.11 | freemangordon | jonwil: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/trees/master |
| 14:59.14 | freemangordon | :P |
| 14:59.43 | freemangordon | the only thing that still needs to be implementd it "end currend task". But it is trivial |
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| 15:21.02 | jonwil | nice job :) |
| 15:21.36 | freemangordon | thanks. now I need to find someone to test it :D |
| 15:21.57 | jonwil | got anything else on your "things to look at cloning" list? |
| 15:22.08 | freemangordon | no |
| 15:22.14 | jonwil | ok |
| 15:22.44 | kerio | freemangordon: ^_^ |
| 15:22.45 | jonwil | All the things I have tried to clone have turned out to be too complex |
| 15:22.58 | jonwil | so I have run out of things to play with |
| 15:23.02 | kerio | jonwil: join #maemo-nexus7 and start cloning fremantle |
| 15:23.21 | jonwil | heh, don't care about Nexus7 (as I dont own one :) |
| 15:23.29 | jonwil | only care about N900 |
| 15:23.52 | kerio | hmm, what's the most powerful keyboarded device released to the general public so far? |
| 15:24.03 | kerio | s/device/smartphone/ |
| 15:24.20 | Sicelo | none, i suppose |
| 15:24.23 | Sicelo | :P |
| 15:24.35 | kerio | Sicelo: i'm thinking motorola milestone |
| 15:24.59 | Sicelo | at least N900 is not it, heh |
| 15:25.29 | kerio | the droid 4 |
| 15:26.05 | Sicelo | i don't know anything about that moto. only know about N900 |
| 15:26.19 | kerio | but it's only evdo/lte/gsm |
| 15:26.30 | kerio | fucking USofA |
| 15:27.05 | Sicelo | oh my |
| 15:30.06 | jonwil | Give me a device with the hardware power of the RAZR MAX HD, the looks of the Galaxy S II, the software openness of the GTA04 and the keyboard and touch-screen of the N900 and it would be the most awesome phone I could imagine |
| 15:30.47 | kerio | >looks of the galaxy s2 |
| 15:30.50 | kerio | >keyboard |
| 15:30.53 | kerio | nope |
| 15:31.15 | jonwil | hey thats why its a wishlist and not an actual device :P |
| 15:31.45 | kerio | it's not even a wishlist |
| 15:32.34 | kerio | for the same reason you can't have "time travel" in a wish list |
| 15:33.02 | tadzik | what's so good about the touch screen of the n900? |
| 15:33.22 | kerio | it's resistive |
| 15:33.47 | kerio | technically i think that it's possible to have hybrid resistive/capacitive touch screens |
| 15:34.14 | tadzik | implementation details aside, is there any advantage besides "I can use anything as a stylus"? |
| 15:35.00 | kerio | it's a lot more precise |
| 15:35.10 | kerio | also gloves |
| 15:35.40 | jonwil | I recon though that the Galaxy S2 (the US variant with the flat touch buttons and not the international variant with the big square physical button at the bottom) is one of the most beautiful devices ever produced. Better looking than the Galaxy S3 and definatly better looking than any iPhone released to date |
| 15:36.46 | jonwil | well actually its not perfect when viewed from the back |
| 15:36.57 | jonwil | but from the front its good |
| 15:38.26 | jonwil | heck, give me a phone with the front and thinness and sides of the S2 and the back of the iPhone 5 and it would be even more beautiful looking :) |
| 15:39.04 | jonwil | only failing of the S2 in the looks department is that bump in the rear |
| 15:39.23 | jonwil | and the non-shiny crappy material they used for the back case |
| 15:39.27 | Sicelo | irregardless of OS? |
| 15:40.03 | freemangordon | ok, "End current task" is there, too :) |
| 15:40.26 | jonwil | I haven't had enough experience with different OSs to be able to say which one looks the best |
| 15:41.10 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
| 15:42.37 | jonwil | in terms of phones that exist and that have physical landscape QWERTY keyboards, the N900 is far from the worst-looking one that exists |
| 15:45.14 | jonwil | It seems like there is an unwritten law that android phones with physical keyboards must be made to be seriously ugly |
| 15:52.48 | Sicelo | i definitely like the looks of the N900.. maybe i'm biased, lol. |
| 15:56.41 | tadzik | it would be nice if the back was flat :) |
| 15:58.31 | kerio | wtf is DMA in powertop? |
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| 16:36.45 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 16:37.08 | freemangordon | merlin1991: powerkeymenu replacement should be ready :) |
| 16:37.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/trees/master |
| 16:38.45 | freemangordon | need someone to review the code (if possible). Also the licenses are missing, etc. |
| 16:39.14 | freemangordon | but functionality-wise it should be 100% ready |
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| 16:53.11 | kerio | freemangordon: is it a rewrite from scratch? |
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| 17:56.02 | arcean | freemangordon, nicely done :) |
| 17:56.12 | arcean | is it available in cssu-devel? |
| 19:06.51 | Pali | luf, merlin1991, freemangordon, I'm going to push this change https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/merge_requests/1 to cssu-devel |
| 19:07.25 | merlin1991 | Pali: go ahead, afaik luf gave you the green light some time ago |
| 19:07.26 | Pali | now finaly I'm able to connect from desktop ubuntu pulseaudio to maemo pulseaudio and send stream |
| 19:17.14 | Pali | I'm pushing also some small changes for ke-recv (disable autostart of osso file manager when usb device is mounted & option to enable/disable dhcp/dns server for usbnetwork) |
| 19:22.32 | kerio | Pali: what's "pc suite mode" there? |
| 19:22.41 | kerio | the actual pc-suite mode, or just g_nokia loaded? |
| 19:25.02 | Pali | where? |
| 19:25.15 | kerio | if you enable the automatic usb networking from ke-recv |
| 19:25.32 | Pali | when pc suite mode is enabled |
| 19:26.01 | Pali | you should use only GUI |
| 19:26.11 | kerio | i see |
| 19:26.19 | kerio | what's started in pc suite mode, anyway? |
| 19:26.25 | kerio | softupd, phonet-at and? |
| 19:26.32 | Pali | compicated |
| 19:26.47 | Pali | first is stopped mass storage with scripts |
| 19:27.02 | Pali | then is called some pcsuite-enable.sh script |
| 19:27.26 | Pali | and start some daemons like softupd, obex, phonet-at ... |
| 19:28.08 | kerio | i see |
| 19:28.15 | kerio | wtf, isn't obexd a bluetooth thing? |
| 19:28.51 | kerio | there's also syncd in the daemons that are started |
| 20:13.31 | Pali | daemons needed for pc suite |
| 20:14.17 | Pali | obex is for obex file transport (you can expore files via Window Explorer with installed Nokia PC Suite) |
| 20:14.41 | Pali | obex is not only for bluetooth, but also for IR and USB |
| 20:14.52 | Pali | (maybe there is also via network...) |
| 20:15.40 | Pali | but useless for linux users where is ssh... |
| 20:25.48 | kerio | i see |
| 20:25.54 | kerio | but i thought obexd was always running |
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| 20:55.56 | freemangordon_ | Pali, why disable file manager when usb device is connected? |
| 20:59.07 | kerio | freemangordon_: because it's really, really annoying |
| 20:59.30 | kerio | and it's also a departure from the stock UI behaviour |
| 21:00.14 | freemangordon_ | Kerio: what? Why annoying? Also, check the stock behavior whe uSD is mounted |
| 21:00.28 | freemangordon_ | *when |
| 21:00.34 | kerio | it opens up the file manager when you put the cover back? |
| 21:00.43 | freemangordon_ | Exactly |
| 21:00.57 | kerio | cool, let's disable that too |
| 21:00.59 | kerio | because it's dumb |
| 21:01.01 | freemangordon_ | Also, I want to hear from Pali :-P |
| 21:01.10 | freemangordon_ | No, it is not |
| 21:04.21 | Pali | freemangordon_, it freezing when my usb flash device in usb host mode is connected |
| 21:04.41 | Pali | only sometimes it not freeze |
| 21:05.16 | Pali | and next problem is that it show annoying message that No supported device was found when choosing some usb host mode |
| 21:05.33 | freemangordon_ | pali: well, lets fix hostmode or whatever is causing the problem, not limit the functionality :-( |
| 21:06.40 | freemangordon_ | Or introduce a timeot to workaround it, it really does not make sence do differ with uSD mount process |
| 21:07.09 | freemangordon_ | (sorry for the typos, using my n900) |
| 21:08.07 | Pali | it is bug in osso_filemanager |
| 21:08.19 | Pali | I really have no idea why it freezing |
| 21:08.44 | freemangordon_ | In frontend or in backend, as backend is FOSS? |
| 21:08.46 | Pali | every other application working, only osso file manager freeze when ke-recv call to open it |
| 21:09.21 | Pali | I do not know, I have no idea how to check if some library or binary freezing |
| 21:10.40 | freemangordon_ | However, lets investigate what happens. |
| 21:11.27 | freemangordon_ | I bet we can find a workaround if not a solution. |
| 21:16.02 | merlin1991 | btw freemangordon_ does the powerkey replacement still leak? |
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| 21:22.19 | freemangordon_ | Merlin1991: afaik no. |
| 21:23.04 | freemangordon_ | Didn't run valgrind though, will do it ofc |
| 21:23.38 | freemangordon_ | Did a simple tests, heap size remains constant |
| 21:25.47 | freemangordon_ | merlin1991: btw it is a re-write, not REed |
| 21:26.14 | freemangordon_ | And my code rarely leaks :-) |
| 21:27.49 | merlin1991 | and how sure are you about complete feature parity? |
| 21:28.21 | freemangordon_ | I tested them. |
| 21:29.01 | freemangordon_ | Everything i could think about |
| 21:29.37 | freemangordon_ | Didn't tested signal path in .xml, but afaik it is not used |
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| 22:15.16 | illuminata | is ssu known to still have reboot loop issues? i upgraded to it on the advice that it should solve those problems but they're back |
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| 22:19.04 | kerio | illuminata: which kind of bootloop? |
| 22:21.09 | illuminata | didn't know there were multiple kinds, but the one where the carrier name and widgets flash in and out |
| 22:23.46 | kerio | i'm not sure why you think cssu is responsible for that |
| 22:24.23 | illuminata | was told something similar before, that some watchdog type program wouldn't force a reboot when a widget wasn't functioning properly |
| 22:24.35 | illuminata | something to that effect, it was a couple/few months ago. your nick is familiar too |
| 22:25.03 | illuminata | or maybe this was geared more for #maemo proper |
| 23:15.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: for "stop current task" please consider to avoid deadlock when process table filled (forkbomb). It's an old boring pun in unix that you can't start a process to kill a process when there's too many processes. So usual workaround is to have a process already running (usually a shell) where you can `exec killall <forkbomb>` |
| 23:18.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno if all that makes sense, since maybe even pressing powerbutton to open the menu already needs to start a new process. Then obviously there's no use in later on trying to make the "stop current task" menubutton forkbomb-safe |
| 23:20.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | but I guess you're using the osso-kill-task.sh script (or what's it's name) anyway, so probably all that doesn't make too much sense |
| 23:23.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe there's no such script and you better forget my last remark |
| 23:26.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | otoh I guess OOM starts killing processes as soon as ther are too many |
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