| 00:35.02 | *** join/#maemo-ssu joshgillies (~josh@58-6-103-4.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:19.37 | *** join/#maemo-ssu dhbiker (~dhbiker@193.2.218.150) |
| 03:26.54 | *** join/#maemo-ssu amiconn_ (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 04:03.28 | *** join/#maemo-ssu DocScrutinizer05 (~HaleBopp@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 04:48.50 | *** join/#maemo-ssu dhbiker (~dhbiker@95.87.145.172) |
| 08:39.38 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:48.50 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali) |
| 09:15.38 | *** join/#maemo-ssu kolp (~quassel@212.255.46.150) |
| 09:29.09 | *** join/#maemo-ssu joshgillies (~josh@58-6-103-4.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:33.07 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:44.38 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:45.57 | _rd | I received a new cssu update, but did not find an entry in the ChangeLog http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog is that not maintained anymore? |
| 09:47.00 | kolp | _rd: The wiki is currently broken and can't be edited. Changelog is on tmo |
| 10:00.04 | *** join/#maemo-ssu M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@mail.melf.eu) |
| 10:01.31 | kerio | freemangordon: *update poke* |
| 10:04.49 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:26.13 | *** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD28DBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:32.37 | _rd | kolp, many thanks, found it http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1297455&postcount=972 |
| 10:39.03 | kerio | i wonder, should i enable forcerotation? |
| 10:52.21 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:12.09 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Martix_ (~martix@ip-62-245-106-78.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 11:36.09 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:06.20 | Lava_Croft | no |
| 12:06.21 | Lava_Croft | never |
| 12:13.54 | kerio | k |
| 12:58.08 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:16.09 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Skry (~skry@81-175-145-167.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 13:36.58 | *** join/#maemo-ssu arcean (~Arcean@aacx144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 13:40.58 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:51.47 | *** join/#maemo-ssu toxaris (~toxaris@s83-180-246-172.cust.tele2.se) |
| 14:03.55 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:38.15 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali) |
| 15:51.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | insane fools picking $random-other-distro if there's no frequent "updates" no matter WHAT gets actually updated |
| 15:52.16 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: tmo is bad for your health |
| 15:52.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | "I don't care what the OS looks like, and what gets done, I WANT an update twice a month or I'll find some other OS that provides such updates" |
| 15:52.36 | *** join/#maemo-ssu arcean (~Arcean@aacx144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 15:52.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-23 19:09:19] <tilou> cause i am thinking to move to nemo if there isn't update anymore |
| 15:53.39 | merlin1991 | ah wait that was on irc :D |
| 15:54.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think those users are better off with gentoo, or probably best they switch to WoW or some other RPG |
| 15:54.46 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, you wanted to know about new 0xFFFF... I created TMO thread |
| 16:00.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: nice :-d And thanks for telling me about tmo thread, which would've gone unnonitced by me otherwise |
| 16:00.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | unnoticed* |
| 16:00.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and :-D |
| 16:00.56 | Pali | link: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 |
| 16:01.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-))) |
| 16:01.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | bookmarked |
| 16:08.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: I gather you rolled T6 recently? |
| 16:09.13 | merlin1991 | yesterday |
| 16:09.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: /topic. tmo announcement? Talked to GAN/Jaffa about MWKN? |
| 16:09.44 | merlin1991 | hm topic is a good idea |
| 16:09.52 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [+o merlin1991] by ChanServ |
| 16:10.03 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo6; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1 |
| 16:10.13 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [-o merlin1991] by ChanServ |
| 16:11.13 | merlin1991 | regarding tmo: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1297455&postcount=972 |
| 16:13.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1297455#post1297455 (I hate those other single-post-links, esp since my theme does format:center) |
| 16:14.40 | merlin1991 | I didn't find the anchor, and there is no button to easily get an anchored link :/ |
| 16:14.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1297539#post1297539 |
| 16:15.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | (there is) |
| 16:15.07 | merlin1991 | where? |
| 16:15.15 | merlin1991 | (button, not anchor) |
| 16:15.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | should we answer this in a more generic way? Like "generally it's not recommended to 'downgrade' to any other CSSU-$x flavour from CSSU-thumb" ? |
| 16:16.05 | merlin1991 | huh? |
| 16:16.17 | *** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD28DBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:16.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | in single post view, the upper-right (in my theme) link to thread |
| 16:16.53 | merlin1991 | true, but one has to go to single thread view first xD |
| 16:17.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 16:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | sucks |
| 16:17.39 | merlin1991 | cssu-thumb delibertly runs with postfix versions on top of testing in order for thumb users to be able to update to latest testing when it gets out, due to possible important update |
| 16:17.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Quick question, should this update be avoided if currently running CSSU Thumb version?<< |
| 16:18.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 16:18.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | so we should post this answer then - alas I dunno where from you quoted that, if you quoted at all |
| 16:19.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway the answer by hxka is a tad fuzzy and overly terse |
| 16:19.41 | merlin1991 | though essentially correct :D |
| 16:20.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | "it depends..." also is a correct answer to almost every question ;-P |
| 16:20.48 | merlin1991 | btw I didn't quote ;) |
| 16:21.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | so would you bother to post your fine comment to that tmo thread, as answer to makyboyuk's question? |
| 16:21.42 | merlin1991 | didn't freemangordon answer at some point? |
| 16:21.56 | merlin1991 | ah wait it's the last post there |
| 16:23.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1297539#post1297539 asked _you_, I think it's ok when _you_ answer, in a less terse way than hxka |
| 16:24.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | or freemangordon might even be the more appropriate candidate for answering, but since question was addressed at you... |
| 16:25.35 | Pali | merlin1991, if you have scratchbox working, can you build & push battery & profile menu applet to cssu-devel? |
| 16:26.18 | merlin1991 | Pali: okay, will do that later when I can reboot |
| 16:26.44 | Pali | after update to ubuntu 12.10 aqemu (gui for qemu) crashing after startup so I have problem to start my scratchbox in virtual machine... |
| 16:27.12 | *** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD28DBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:27.16 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-area-applet-battery |
| 16:27.21 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-menu-applet-profiles |
| 16:31.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | now muses how to re-enable proper updates (install cssu-MP) while keeping stock camera-ui and procps |
| 16:31.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng PITA |
| 16:34.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | the more I'm wondering what's so great about frequent updates so somebody would consider switching to nemo if not every other week an update ships for CSSU-T, no matter if there's *anything* in that update that's really relevant to that person |
| 16:35.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | must be some sort of masochism paired with boredom |
| 16:35.38 | tadzik | don't worry, they'll soon see nemo's battery life |
| 16:35.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol, right |
| 16:36.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | back to my initial problem... |
| 16:36.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: any suggestions? |
| 16:36.50 | tadzik | people probably feel insecure about using a "dead platform" and feel better if there are updates every second day |
| 16:37.11 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: well I'd install fake packages to make apt and ham happy :D |
| 16:37.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I for one feel most insecure with using an immature platform that needs updates every second day ;-P |
| 16:37.34 | merlin1991 | empty busybox-symlinks-procps that has no conflicts and highe version number |
| 16:37.45 | merlin1991 | and original camera ui repacked with high version number |
| 16:38.30 | merlin1991 | actually re camera-ui |
| 16:38.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a plan, that fails when it comes to my lacking packaging knowhow |
| 16:38.51 | merlin1991 | just edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and pimp its version with an epoch (add 1: at the start) |
| 16:40.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I already considered restoring /var/*/(dpkg|.*apt.*)/* to a state where MP been installed and no procps and camera-ui caused conflicts |
| 16:40.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | while keeping the binaries |
| 16:41.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels nausea around the corner |
| 16:42.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, could we maybe take a weekend's time to think about MP and possible alternatives? |
| 16:43.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf needs cssu-t6-MP depend on camera-ui at all? or on ps, resp conflict with procps? |
| 16:44.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | this whole MP concept is so damn braindamaged in my book |
| 16:45.23 | Pali | merlin1991, see: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/alarmd/merge_requests/1 |
| 16:45.53 | Pali | (I used alarmd for testing my script git-import-dscs) |
| 17:01.33 | *** join/#maemo-ssu dhbiker (~dhbiker@193.2.218.150) |
| 17:12.23 | *** join/#maemo-ssu arcean (~arcean@aacx144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 17:13.03 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:26.54 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:41.44 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali) |
| 19:06.24 | *** join/#maemo-ssu arcean (~arcean@aacx144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:14.03 | *** join/#maemo-ssu wumpwoast (~jcassidy@63.251.248.156) |
| 19:28.20 | *** join/#maemo-ssu _rd (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:47.02 | *** join/#maemo-ssu rd_ (~rd@p57B48D94.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:17.11 | *** join/#maemo-ssu ron0062000 (~ron006200@cpe-72-181-242-49.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 20:25.09 | *** join/#maemo-ssu nox- (noident@freebsd/developer/nox) |
| 20:57.58 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali) |
| 20:59.42 | *** join/#maemo-ssu ron0062000 (~ron006200@cpe-72-181-242-49.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 21:47.11 | *** join/#maemo-ssu wumpwoast (~jcassidy@63.251.248.156) |
| 22:42.00 | *** join/#maemo-ssu M13 (~M13@170.133-224-87.telenet.ru) |