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00:59.37 | kolp | Hi, does anyone have an idea how hard it would be to replace the wifi icon in the status area with one that shows the link quality like in the status menu? |
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09:03.49 | kolp_ | Hi, does anyone have an idea how hard it would be to replace the wifi icon in the status area with one that shows the link quality like in the status menu? |
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09:42.35 | merlin1991 | kolp: you'd have to rewrite the plugin |
09:55.53 | luf | merrlin1991: did you catch my message that irmc in obexd is fixed in cssu git? |
09:56.40 | kolp | merlin1991: is it open source? |
09:57.05 | merlin1991 | luf: yep, I'm building :) |
09:57.08 | merlin1991 | kolp: no idea |
09:57.30 | kolp | ok, thanks, I'll have a look :) |
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10:19.29 | MrPingu | Pali: status-menu-battery applet seems to fine over here, having BME, KP51r1 and on CSSU_thumb ;) |
10:19.31 | MrPingu | Thanks |
10:19.57 | Pali | MrPingu, ok |
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10:21.37 | MrPingu | Except for the weird calculation of remaining time |
10:22.12 | MrPingu | But that's not you to blame :P |
10:22.57 | Pali | you can use time calculation from bq27x00_battery module when bme is stopped |
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10:31.44 | MrPingu | I know :) |
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11:01.32 | kolp | merlin1991: fyi, it's closed, together with libconnui, for which also no headers are available. Awesome... |
11:02.25 | merlin1991 | hm afaik we do have reversed headers for libconnui somewhere (not sure might be that is one of the aborted re projects though) |
11:02.50 | merlin1991 | Pali/freemangordon/jonwil would know |
11:06.33 | freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libconnui-dev |
11:06.41 | freemangordon | kudos to jonwil |
11:07.39 | kolp | Thanks, will check |
11:08.23 | freemangordon | Pali: I wonder how BME calculates the remaining time |
11:08.43 | freemangordon | I don;t believe it is wrong, most probably we just miss something |
11:09.11 | Pali | freemangordon, see changelog from nokia binary package |
11:09.28 | Pali | there is written that remaining time was deleted from widget (fixing some bug) |
11:10.32 | Pali | <PROTECTED> |
11:10.43 | Pali | <PROTECTED> |
11:11.03 | Pali | ping andre__ |
11:11.24 | freemangordon | ok, but why is that? I bet it is because initialy n900 has usage time around 6 hours :D:D:D |
11:11.36 | freemangordon | s/has/had/ |
11:12.14 | andre__ | pong Pali |
11:12.18 | andre__ | on the leave |
11:12.34 | andre__ | and no, I don't have access to Nokia's bugtracker anymore :) |
11:13.56 | Pali | ok |
11:14.13 | freemangordon | battery.remaining_time = 0 (0x0) (int) |
11:14.28 | freemangordon | USB connected |
11:14.47 | Pali | andre__, do you remember why was remaining time removed from status menu applet? |
11:15.13 | Pali | freemangordon, when charging bme not reporting time (sometimes) |
11:15.49 | freemangordon | Pali: in ^^^ case you'd better write "Charging" or "Connected to charger" instead of the remaining time of 0 |
11:16.19 | Pali | my applet never show time 0 |
11:16.26 | Pali | and it really show charging |
11:16.32 | Pali | or not? |
11:16.35 | Pali | bug? |
11:17.11 | Pali | and new hald-addon-bme reporting time when battery will be fully charged |
11:17.13 | freemangordon | Pali: I don;t have your applet installed |
11:17.19 | Pali | ok :-) |
11:17.30 | freemangordon | just lshal -u /../bme |
11:27.16 | kolp | Pali: it shows 'charging', and also the time remaining |
11:27.36 | kolp | (Which right now is 2 hours for 82%) o.O |
11:27.54 | Pali | kolp, I do not know how bme working... |
11:28.07 | kolp | And then switches to 5 hours when I disconnect the charger :) |
11:36.16 | merlin1991 | sqlite from marmistrz looks good |
11:36.18 | merlin1991 | now building |
11:38.09 | merlin1991 | bah it needs debhelper >= 7 |
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11:54.58 | chem|st | merlin1991: do you have a workaround at hand for the ARGZ thing with modest not building |
11:55.39 | merlin1991 | I haxx0red my libtool file the last time |
11:55.57 | chem|st | Î was wondering what broke it |
11:56.00 | merlin1991 | (/usr/share/libtool/libtool.m4) |
11:56.41 | merlin1991 | hm not that m4 file though |
11:57.12 | chem|st | I was looking into several files attached to that matter and did not find anything |
11:57.29 | chem|st | I definetly miss something there |
11:57.34 | freemangordon | merlin1991: wasn't it automake version? |
11:57.52 | chem|st | freemangordon: nothing changed... |
11:57.53 | freemangordon | i.e. you need to install --reinstll 1.8 |
11:58.04 | freemangordon | and after that install --reinstall 1.9 |
11:58.13 | chem|st | well I try that again |
11:58.32 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I never made it to the right config of automake versions, so I just haxx0red the absolute path into the m4 file so it did could find the stuff |
11:58.43 | chem|st | I did not want to touch that again cause that was what broke kerecv before |
11:58.43 | freemangordon | you can try autoreconf --force |
11:58.54 | freemangordon | ^^^ |
11:59.01 | chem|st | merlin1991: that was intltool |
11:59.07 | merlin1991 | ah yeah true |
11:59.17 | chem|st | which is working fine with my setup |
11:59.30 | merlin1991 | ah yeah I remember |
11:59.42 | chem|st | I had to install automake in a specific order |
11:59.52 | merlin1991 | I only remember the argz stuff because it showed up whilst I tried to get intltool to run |
12:00.05 | merlin1991 | hm currently grepping for that stuff but can't find it :P |
12:00.11 | chem|st | freemangordon: I did not change anything apart of installing pythen-dev things in between |
12:01.48 | freemangordon | aah, wait |
12:01.55 | chem|st | I am scared to try that installation procedure of automake again |
12:02.20 | freemangordon | remove python-dev, disable maemo-extras repo and install python-dev from SDK repo |
12:02.21 | chem|st | freemangordon: I cannot remember what was pulled in with it |
12:02.30 | freemangordon | chem|st: does not matter |
12:02.41 | chem|st | ehrm one second |
12:02.42 | freemangordon | iirc there are 2 versions of python-dev |
12:03.00 | freemangordon | the one in extras breaks a couple of packages. IIRC |
12:03.05 | freemangordon | you need the one in SDK |
12:03.09 | freemangordon | repo |
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12:04.44 | merlin1991 | oh yes, the sqlite library from harm cannot be built in it's current form for the cssu :/ |
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12:09.26 | Pali | kerio, I updated hald-addon-bme & status menu plugin |
12:09.35 | Pali | now working fine without bme too :-) |
12:09.41 | Pali | you can try them |
12:09.54 | Pali | files are on same URLs |
12:12.53 | merlin1991 | hm sqlite from harmattan depends on debhelper 7 (fixed easily), tcl8.5 (even conflicts 8.4 which is what we have) and automake 1.10 (latest we have is 1.9) |
12:14.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991: we have automake 1.10 |
12:15.01 | merlin1991 | in -devel |
12:15.04 | merlin1991 | not in sdk / cssu |
12:17.43 | freemangordon | Pali: a wild idea - it seems BME is reporting some sane values, can you average the last N reported values and use that somehow |
12:19.18 | freemangordon | Pali: for remaining time that is |
12:37.07 | chem|st | re |
12:39.16 | chem|st | freemangordon: changed the python stuff |
12:39.40 | chem|st | so back to ARGZ |
12:39.48 | chem|st | ideas? |
12:41.42 | chem|st | it is not the automake and it is not the python-dev thing |
12:51.00 | merlin1991 | chemist run a git clean -dfxe .gitignore and then try to build again |
12:51.51 | chem|st | nope |
12:56.24 | andre__ | Pali, oh, no idea, sorry |
12:57.09 | merlin1991 | hm searching for the gl_func_argz fun on google brought me http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2009-11-04.log.html |
12:57.26 | merlin1991 | somewhere around 1:20 the fun starts :D |
13:02.04 | chem|st | ? |
13:02.25 | merlin1991 | fun as in great irc quote quality .D |
13:02.26 | chem|st | I found that before but around 1:20 isn't anything useful |
13:02.42 | merlin1991 | usually fun isn't usefull ;) |
13:03.08 | chem|st | ... you mean I earned a free promotion as soon as I get it to build that way? |
13:03.51 | merlin1991 | yeah you'll have to pay 2€ more into the cssu fund after you got your promotion, cssu status are very strict ;) |
13:03.55 | merlin1991 | *statutes* |
13:05.35 | chem|st | nice :( |
13:05.53 | chem|st | asking lardman in #maemo how he solved it... |
13:10.56 | Pali | andre__, ok |
13:11.20 | Pali | freemangordon, so this should be done in hald-addon-bme (not in status menu applet) |
13:21.02 | Pali | freemangordon, here is screen of old battery widget with time info: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/nokias-maemo-os-appearing-next-month-627450 |
13:21.09 | Pali | from August 19th 2009 |
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13:33.18 | Pali | here is too: http://mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900-en.shtml |
13:34.19 | MrPingu | Maybe they removed it because BME calculations suck |
13:37.32 | Pali | good point |
13:39.43 | Pali | freemangordon, can you test if new libbmeipc working with kernel drivers? |
13:40.01 | Pali | I fixed last problems in hald-addon-bme and it is ready for replace |
13:42.58 | jonwil | do we have proper algorithm for calculating temperature yet (i.e. to pass correct value to pulseaudio) |
13:44.03 | Pali | yes |
13:44.13 | Pali | implemented in kernel driver rx51_battery.ko |
13:44.33 | jonwil | how did you figure out the math? |
13:46.40 | Pali | jonwil, I found on net formula for some samsung chip |
13:46.53 | jonwil | and it works same as real BME? |
13:47.22 | Pali | and DocScrutinizer05 put his n900 into fridge for getting more RAW+BME values |
13:47.33 | jonwil | ok |
13:47.51 | Pali | and then I modified constants in samsung formula |
13:48.21 | Pali | and then that formula reported same values as DocScrutinizer's bme |
13:48.37 | jonwil | ok, sounds good then |
13:49.12 | Pali | jonwil, and I found in CAL formula constants |
13:49.27 | Pali | so I think we really have connrect formula |
13:49.38 | jonwil | thats good to know |
13:50.01 | Pali | jonwil, so bme replacement is complete :-) |
13:50.12 | jonwil | Would the CAL constants be in the bit that changes from device to device? |
13:50.13 | Pali | now we need to test if everything together working |
13:50.14 | MrPingu | Good work, Pali! |
13:50.46 | Pali | jonwil, I looked into more CAL dumps and all has same value in that constants position |
13:50.52 | jonwil | ok |
13:51.12 | Pali | jonwil, look to irc log for more info |
13:51.20 | jonwil | ok |
13:51.25 | jonwil | sounds good anyway if we got it all figured out |
13:51.38 | jonwil | Good that we have open source BME replacement bits |
13:51.54 | Pali | jonwil, now we have working new status menu plugin too :-) |
13:52.01 | Pali | for battery |
13:52.14 | jonwil | That's one less binary blob the MeeGo/Mer/Tizen/etc guys need to use |
13:52.41 | Pali | jonwil, I need to know what systemui actdead battery plugin doing |
13:52.56 | Pali | do you have time to write some documentation about systemui? |
13:53.10 | Pali | freemangordon, want to rewrite alarm systemui plugin too |
13:53.24 | Pali | so some systemui info will be usefull |
13:54.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: I couldn't care less about tizen rt al guys and what they have to use or not |
13:54.20 | Pali | jonwil, I sent rx51_battery driver for upstreaming: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/30/446 |
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14:11.54 | jonwil | looking at that plugin, I see it making calls to libcanberra, dbus, glib, gconf, gtk, libhal and pango |
14:18.27 | jonwil | The canberra stuff is all about playing /usr/share/sounds/ui-charging_started.wav and /usr/share/sounds/ui-wrong_charger.wav |
14:18.45 | jonwil | dbus is about interface='com.nokia.mce.signal',member='display_status_ind', interface='com.nokia.mce.request',member='req_display_state_off', interface='com.nokia.mce.request',member='req_display_state_on' and interface='com.nokia.mce.request',member='get_display_status' |
14:19.12 | jonwil | gconf is reading /system/systemui/acting_dead/window_priority |
14:23.09 | jonwil | its also setting up HAL stuff to look at the properties maemo.rechargeable.charging_status, maemo.charger.connection_status, battery.charge_level.current |
14:27.48 | jonwil | it also looking for battery.rechargeable.is_charging, battery.rechargeable.is_discharging, maemo.charger.type, battery.charge_level.capacity_state, |
14:27.53 | jonwil | I hope that info helps |
14:35.31 | freemangordon | jonwil: do you have any info about systemui? |
14:35.37 | freemangordon | anything REed? |
14:36.08 | jonwil | http://www.cncmods.net/files/systemui.h |
14:36.18 | jonwil | thats all I got basically |
14:41.52 | jonwil | that plus anything I posted to the lists |
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14:45.35 | jonwil | points Pali to the logs |
14:48.27 | jonwil | wishes using OpenSSL to do AES encryption wasn't so hard :( |
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14:51.18 | Pali | jonwil, irc log for battery temperature: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-09-27.log.html#t2012-09-27T17:00:18 |
14:51.26 | Pali | + look some days before and after |
14:51.32 | jonwil | ':) |
14:51.42 | jonwil | did you see my info on the actingdead plugin? |
15:04.50 | Pali | now from irc log |
15:21.04 | chem|st | can someone who has no python dev stuff installed pls try to install python-all-dev python-support and tell me what it wants to drag in?! |
15:24.18 | MrPingu | http://pastebin.com/zSVfAbxK |
15:24.29 | MrPingu | chem|st: ^^^ |
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15:25.11 | MrPingu | Already got python-support but for python-dev dependencies are there, I guess. Hope it helps you |
15:29.23 | merlin1991 | chem|st: apt-cache show python-all-dev ;) |
15:29.27 | chem|st | MrPingu: damn... thankyou |
15:29.55 | chem|st | merlin1991: I needed a dependency tree not only its own dependencies |
15:30.16 | chem|st | merlin1991: was looking if I missed something |
15:30.49 | chem|st | so for some reason modest compiled fine before I had a hand on libxml2 |
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17:04.08 | kerio | goddammit where's pali |
17:04.10 | kerio | ~seen Pali |
17:04.20 | infobot | pali <~pali@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 1h 59m 30s ago, saying: 'now from irc log'. |
17:05.29 | kerio | hrmpf :C |
17:05.36 | kerio | i need to tell him his hald-addon-bme sucks |
17:05.39 | kerio | or something |
17:05.50 | freemangordon | send him an email |
17:09.58 | freemangordon | it is not in /tec/* either |
17:10.05 | freemangordon | */etc/* |
17:10.19 | freemangordon | I wonder if it is because of the country I live |
17:14.22 | freemangordon | oops, ECHAN |
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17:49.02 | luf | kerio: pali is back ;) |
17:49.08 | kerio | luf: i know :D |
17:49.25 | kerio | Pali: here's probably better, even though it's not exactly cssu material |
17:49.44 | kerio | Pali: left charging overnight, woke to battery at "99%" and charging |
17:50.24 | kerio | removed charger, and then started toying around to try to make the charging icon disappear |
17:51.36 | Pali | kerio, did you updated to new version? |
17:51.43 | kerio | which new version? |
17:51.44 | kerio | no |
17:51.54 | kerio | gimme some binaries |
17:51.56 | kerio | possibly in .debs |
17:52.33 | kerio | i don't have a toolchain anywhere |
17:53.08 | Pali | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/latest.log.html#t2012-11-07T14:09:26 |
17:53.28 | Pali | kerio, update both hald-addon-bme and status menu plugin and then reboot |
17:53.34 | Pali | binaries are on same url |
17:53.57 | kerio | Pali: so now the applet works regardless of hald-addon-bme? |
17:54.01 | kerio | :D :D :D |
17:54.11 | Pali | yes it is working :-) |
17:54.38 | kerio | but hald-addon-bme expects the modules to be loaded only |
17:54.57 | kerio | is it still status-area-applet-battery 1.0-1? |
17:55.06 | Pali | yes, same files |
17:55.23 | Pali | hald-addon-bme support modules hotplug too |
17:55.37 | kerio | what values does it provide when no modules are loaded? |
17:55.48 | Pali | zero |
17:56.42 | kerio | won't it shut down the phone due to low battery then? :) |
17:57.33 | Pali | no |
17:57.41 | kerio | Pali: the status applet still checks for the version of bme, doesn't it |
17:57.42 | kerio | :( |
17:57.54 | kerio | it locks up the booting :( |
17:58.16 | Pali | yes it check, but reading charging values when changing |
17:59.17 | kerio | Pali: hmm, there's something wrong |
17:59.23 | kerio | i get a solid green led when the screen is locked |
18:00.16 | kerio | new hald-addon-bme, new status-area-applet-battery, bq2415x-charger, bq27x00-battery and rx51-battery loaded |
18:01.21 | kerio | hm, now i don't |
18:01.29 | kerio | ok, i'm going to try charging now |
18:07.32 | kerio | Pali: idea: tapping on the battery in the status menu gives additional bq27200 informations |
18:16.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ I support that idea a lot |
18:17.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: you're aware green LED is just a msg to mce, requesting a certain pattern? The pattern will |
18:17.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | 'stick' until unset or overridden by a pattern with higher prio |
18:18.03 | kerio | Pali: and, in that same popup, allow starting hostmode or something |
18:18.28 | kerio | has very little space in the status menu |
18:18.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. allow execution of arbitrary binary on clicking a certain button |
18:19.04 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: you're going to run sudo bq27200.sh 60, right |
18:19.06 | kerio | it won't work! |
18:19.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | 'color' (and maybe also writing) on the button depending on return of the 'binary' called |
18:20.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: depends on proper specs for the API between that applet and the binary |
18:21.14 | kerio | Pali: you made the applet use the bq27200 data for the full charge :D :D :D |
18:21.15 | kerio | i love you |
18:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I think of 'binary' returning sth like `echo "-textbox "voltage: 3800mV\ncurrent: 266mA discharge"` |
18:22.49 | kerio | hm |
18:23.04 | kerio | eeh, i don't really like it |
18:23.14 | kerio | if you want custom messages, there's widgets or buttons for it |
18:23.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | or `echo "-button-color red -button-text 'kernel module didn't respond'" |
18:24.40 | Pali | I'm not going to implement that |
18:24.43 | Pali | I do not have time for it |
18:24.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I don't like a hard dependency of battery applet to either bq24xx.ko stuff nor any other h-e-n or bme-replacement related stuff |
18:25.13 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i think it uses hald-addon-bme data |
18:25.16 | kerio | Pali: right? |
18:25.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly don't care what it's using |
18:25.30 | kerio | Pali: btw, it works perfectly |
18:25.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | h-e-n original is supposed to still work, even with new applet |
18:26.12 | kerio | not if bq27x00-charger is loaded :) |
18:26.22 | kerio | er, bq2415x-charger |
18:26.29 | kerio | you'd have to change booston a tiny bit |
18:27.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | pfff, what makes you think h-e-n original v2.0 couldn't unload bq2415x-charger to do stuff the way it thinks is better suited? |
18:27.25 | kerio | because if it did that, i'd tell it to fuck off >:C |
18:27.46 | kerio | i want battery information while hostmoding, dammit |
18:27.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | then I tell you as h-e-n user to f o |
18:28.09 | kerio | h-e-n devs are so rude! |
18:28.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what? booston already gathers some battery info |
18:29.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | it could gather more, if only no other process interferes by exclusively allocatzing the I2C interface to the chips |
18:29.56 | kerio | kernel module don't care, kernel module don't give a fuck |
18:30.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ??? |
18:30.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | detects kerio trolling mode |
18:30.33 | kerio | a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg reference |
18:30.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
18:32.38 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, there is (or should be) no need to unload the charger modules to do hostmode |
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18:40.07 | freemangordon | alarm UI leaks at least one DBusMessage :( |
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19:23.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | leaks dbus-msg? |
19:34.51 | kerio | Pali: why do we need the "Battery:" text in the status menu applet? |
19:35.07 | Pali | why not? |
19:35.16 | kerio | it uses up space for no good reason |
19:35.16 | Pali | in original there is |
19:35.23 | kerio | there's *only* that in the original |
19:35.49 | Pali | do you have problem with space in your language? |
19:35.57 | Pali | strings are transtaled |
19:36.15 | kerio | it's kinda full when it's also charging |
19:36.36 | kerio | Pali: do you have a libbmeipc to give me too? |
19:36.57 | Pali | kerio, new freemangordon libbmeipc only export temperate |
19:37.16 | Pali | yes, there is source code in git repo: https://gitorious.org/rx51-bme-replacement/libbmeipc |
19:41.11 | Pali | kerio, for help ask freemangordon, he tested older version |
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20:26.39 | luf | I have a question about bluez PAN. |
20:27.05 | luf | Anyone open to discussion how it should be implemented? |
20:27.37 | luf | I'm trying to create a mode for NAP where no bridge interface will be used. |
20:28.18 | luf | But it needs some mechanism for setting the interface which is added. |
20:28.20 | kerio | luf: #bluez :) |
20:28.58 | luf | kerio: :D Nice they remove all other code except NAP + bridge => I see no possibility |
20:29.17 | luf | kerio: any other idea opinion? :) |
20:29.28 | luf | I see two different ways |
20:29.43 | kerio | luf: no, i mean, go ask the guys in #bluez |
20:29.46 | kerio | it's the dev channel |
20:31.06 | luf | 1) put back the network.conf with NAP settings (bridge_name - none mean no bridge, script for setting devices, option if bluez should start NAP automaticaly during startup) |
20:31.34 | luf | 2) just call some DBUS signal/method to keep another sw to setup the interface |
20:31.53 | luf | kerio: it's not so low devel thing. |
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20:33.10 | luf | option 1 means everything will be managed by bluez, option 2 means keep the settings of interfaces on another piece of SW. |
20:34.56 | kerio | i'd vote for 1 |
20:35.07 | kerio | but changing config files doesn't allow for "live" configuration |
20:37.36 | luf | kerio: that's the problem ;) Also when you want to use NAP + bridge - someone should create some settings (what interface is for outgoing traffic - or choose from default route + some priorities in config file - it sounds very complicated)? |
20:38.50 | luf | BTW live configuration should be done in runtime only (change the bridge + include/exclude interface) or change some bnepX interface ... while config settings are default for next bluez restart. |
20:41.09 | luf | Hmmm, it's good to write it here. I make better overview for myself. |
20:41.38 | luf | Now I prefer option 1. |
20:43.06 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: I think you will be happy to share your opinion :) |
20:45.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have to think about it, not sure I really understand the details yet |
20:45.50 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: Ok. feel free to ask. |
20:46.14 | luf | Maybe I should also describe the current situation (bluez-4.99). |
20:47.33 | luf | Now the NAP is enabled/disabled using DBUS methods - it's a problem that you have to enable NAP when you pair it with computer so the computer can see that the device supporting NAP. |
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21:15.04 | luf | I'm going to sleep. But I'll take a look into archive so if you have any thought about bluez + PAN please write it. |
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