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| 06:24.55 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: you mean a 2GB limit on vfat |
| 06:25.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean a 2GB limit of 32bit kernels |
| 06:26.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | a few days ago somebody argued with me and seemed to claim the limit of vfat is actually 4GB |
| 06:27.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | while on maemo we evidently have a 2GB limit |
| 06:28.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | which makes sense for signed int32 function return, with <0 == Error |
| 06:29.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | such int32 return for file functions should apply to all fs, not only vfat |
| 06:29.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never tried to create a >2GB file on /home |
| 06:29.47 | kerio | there's probably not enough space anyway :) |
| 06:30.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I leave that up to sb who got extended /home part |
| 06:31.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | my suspicion: even on ext3 there'll hit the kernel's 31bit limit |
| 06:34.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I could check on a SD card |
| 06:34.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | or a USB stick |
| 06:34.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I seem to recall people reporting issues with files >2GB |
| 06:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: how's about your energy for investigations? create a uSD with ext3 and a 3 or even 5GB file on it? then insert to N900 |
| 06:36.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have to leave now for my awesome daywork job |
| 06:37.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you could be the one to discover this issue |
| 06:37.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | or prove all concerns moot |
| 06:38.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | keep in mind this might differ between stock and KP |
| 06:38.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like an interesting topic, no? |
| 06:46.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: probably checking struct buffer in sys/stat.h should suffice to tell if kernel file functions use a int32, uint32, or (u)int64 |
| 07:07.37 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: if I remember right 2GB is limit for vfat. |
| 07:08.27 | luf | I saw larger files on different FS (xfs, extX,...) on 32-bit. The problem with different FSes are compatibility with win world. |
| 07:09.13 | freemangordon | luf:from wikipedia: |
| 07:09.15 | freemangordon | 4,294,967,295 bytes (4 GB - 1) with FAT16B and FAT32[1] |
| 07:11.07 | freemangordon | it is 4GB - 1 as ~0 is used for end of chain iirc |
| 07:42.50 | luf | freemangordon: my experiences are different. |
| 07:43.11 | freemangordon | luf: it depends on the cluster size ;) |
| 07:43.30 | freemangordon | iirc you need 32k cluster to have 4GB file |
| 07:43.52 | freemangordon | or was it 64k? |
| 07:44.19 | luf | ok :) I used default values as I hope it's the most tested :) |
| 07:44.59 | freemangordon | :) |
| 07:45.13 | freemangordon | luf: btw your modified PA is in -thumb |
| 07:45.43 | freemangordon | which reminds me.. what is the status of bluez? |
| 07:45.49 | luf | freemangordon: thanks. I have to find some spare time for thumb ... |
| 07:46.20 | luf | freemangordon: I installed it again on my main N900 so I hope it's quiet stable. But testing is needed. |
| 07:47.17 | luf | Oh I forgot to upload the latest greatest :D |
| 07:47.59 | luf | Bluez devel fixed the last problem with AudioSource.Connect so I see no pending bugs right now. |
| 07:48.48 | freemangordon | and wthat about that guy on TMO with desconectiong issues, or it is unrelated? |
| 07:49.19 | freemangordon | luf: upload or push? |
| 07:49.24 | luf | The guy has problem with stock bluez (and also with the new one). So maybe it's not bluez related. |
| 07:50.04 | luf | freemangordon: The git contains all latest changes (except changelog) :) |
| 07:50.42 | freemangordon | aah, the paragraph 22 in the kernel, I see |
| 07:51.47 | luf | freemangordon: what? |
| 07:52.49 | freemangordon | stock kernel does not work OK with some HS. There was/is a patch in KP that fixed the issue, but made another set of HS/HF to not work :D |
| 07:53.08 | freemangordon | So we decided to revert to stock behaviour in latest KP versions ;) |
| 07:53.34 | freemangordon | the funny thing is that patch is for HID devices :D |
| 07:53.41 | freemangordon | *the patch |
| 07:54.33 | luf | Ahh I get the message. Ok. |
| 07:54.58 | freemangordon | oops, it is catch 22 in english :D |
| 07:55.51 | freemangordon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22 |
| 07:57.46 | freemangordon | wonders who was that to translate "catch" as "clause" in bulgarian |
| 07:58.09 | luf | I'm trying to find info how to handle SMS notifications for obexd MAP push function ... |
| 07:58.35 | freemangordon | you should be able to do that via dbus |
| 07:59.22 | freemangordon | anyway, I am on my way to office, bbl |
| 08:03.47 | luf | You're right. dbus is the right way. I see N900 Notifier and it's python code now :) |
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| 09:09.12 | freemangordon | luf: I hopy you won;t use python for your stuff :P |
| 09:09.16 | freemangordon | *hope |
| 09:16.49 | luf | freemangordon: you're right as usual but I see the way how to handle it ;) And it's important. |
| 09:17.09 | luf | BTW I saw no C example on SMS notification. |
| 09:23.08 | freemangordon | luf: just setup a dbus listener , for the same signals, should be easy |
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| 10:37.11 | luf | kerio: I'm trying nap in bluez-4.99 and it seems that it works :) I need to finish some configuration but I connected and it adds the bnep0 into the bridge on N900 side. |
| 10:39.25 | merlin1991 | btw luf is the pa anything for -testing? |
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| 10:40.03 | luf | merlin1991: what do you mean with pa - pulseaudio? |
| 10:40.08 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 10:40.40 | luf | Hmmm. To be honest I don't think about it. I know that just me and pali tested it. |
| 10:41.07 | luf | I add there just new functionality which shouldn't affect any previous features. |
| 10:42.23 | luf | Maybe it should go into -testing now or wait for next testing. |
| 10:43.27 | luf | The change is support for AudioSource + add loopback module so anyone is able to play sound from another source on N900. But it's not user friendly and I have to write some wiki about it. |
| 10:44.07 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 10:44.31 | luf | (support AudioSource means take AudioSource from another BT host) |
| 10:46.08 | merlin1991 | hm would it work to connect multiple n900s with one BT host and have them all playback what the host has? :D |
| 10:47.06 | luf | I think it's possible as long as the host has possibility to connect to multiple N900s. |
| 10:47.33 | luf | But I think that sound from such N900s shouldn't be synchronized. |
| 10:47.33 | merlin1991 | would be funny to place them in the room and suddnely have musik from everywhere xD |
| 10:47.51 | merlin1991 | yeah sync would probably suck |
| 10:50.20 | merlin1991 | headdesks |
| 10:50.32 | luf | Probably you can also create a chain of N900 to get the sound from the last one (far away from the source) |
| 10:51.00 | merlin1991 | why did I upload the new -testing stuff into the pre testing repo and then remove it locally? the repo import eats the .changes files :/ |
| 10:51.34 | luf | You did to to have more fun? :) |
| 10:51.44 | merlin1991 | bah |
| 10:51.54 | merlin1991 | I still have to evaluate sqlite and possibly build qt4 |
| 10:52.13 | merlin1991 | btw luckily I didn't remove the openssl stuff |
| 10:52.19 | merlin1991 | because that build takes forever :D |
| 10:53.31 | merlin1991 | wtf gitorious claims my public key is m00t |
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| 10:55.29 | merlin1991 | btw luf any reason why debian/rules in obexd isn't +x ? |
| 10:56.01 | freemangordon | merlin1991: PA is n -thumb for a couple of days, so far no problems. I even use it on my primary device |
| 10:56.10 | luf | merlin1991: because diff ? |
| 10:57.33 | luf | merlin1991: I don't see how to change it. So I live with it and do chmod a+x debian rules each time I use patch on top of orig source. |
| 10:58.11 | merlin1991 | damn diff and patch :D |
| 10:58.25 | freemangordon | hmm, why not use quilt? |
| 10:59.16 | merlin1991 | because we're using git aswell? and quilt withing git is kinda bad for your mental health |
| 11:00.00 | luf | freemangordon: I'm not so good in debian packaging and I took the package from maemo or wheezy. |
| 11:00.12 | luf | I'm still learning it. |
| 11:00.44 | merlin1991 | luf: quilt is great when you're working based on source tarballs, but it doesn't make much sense when you have the source in a git repo anyway |
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| 11:01.34 | luf | kerio: Good, I'm able to ping N900 using bluez-4.99 + builtin NAP + kernel-power 52 :) |
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| 11:01.55 | freemangordon | :) |
| 11:02.00 | luf | merlin1991: I'm using debian/patches againist source tarballs |
| 11:02.27 | merlin1991 | why don't you apply the patches and make git commits? |
| 11:02.50 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm, it is better to keep patches unapplied |
| 11:02.56 | luf | I think it's simplier to upgrade to new upstream version when I need. |
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| 11:03.01 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 11:03.28 | merlin1991 | :antinod: |
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| 11:04.12 | merlin1991 | git checkout "commitof orgignial source" git checkout -b "somebranch" drop new tarball git rebase --onto forgotpropersyntax here and you're done |
| 11:04.41 | merlin1991 | ah yeah commit the new tarball before the rebase ofc :) |
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| 11:08.09 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I am not that experienced with git :D. seems luf is not either :P |
| 11:08.31 | merlin1991 | you can picture each commit in git as a simple patch file :) |
| 11:08.49 | merlin1991 | so they can be moved around, applied in different order, applied elsewhere, ... |
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| 11:11.38 | merlin1991 | btw freemangordon I've recued the number of commands to completeley reset to a cloned tree to 2: git clean -dfxe .gitignore && git reset --hard |
| 11:11.49 | merlin1991 | s/recued/reduced/ |
| 11:12.12 | freemangordon | :D |
| 11:12.14 | freemangordon | good |
| 11:12.19 | merlin1991 | sometimes reading manpages can save further work :P |
| 11:12.58 | freemangordon | 2 instead of 3, 33.3~% reduction in CPU load :D:D:D |
| 11:13.40 | merlin1991 | nah the biggest improvement is on the # of letters you have to type ;) |
| 11:15.13 | Pali | merlin1991, can you look at other merge requests on gitorious? |
| 11:15.46 | merlin1991 | which one is still open apart from the qt4 one? |
| 11:16.15 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/merge_requests/24 |
| 11:16.26 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest-l10n/merge_requests/3 |
| 11:16.40 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/freetype/merge_requests/2 |
| 11:16.53 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/merge_requests/1 |
| 11:16.59 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/merge_requests/4 |
| 11:17.04 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/merge_requests/5 |
| 11:17.22 | arcean | no! please do not merge https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/merge_requests/24 :D |
| 11:17.43 | merlin1991 | yeah :P |
| 11:18.01 | Pali | thats should be all open |
| 11:19.39 | merlin1991 | modest-l10n is not merged but fixed, freetype I have to investigate, and the qt4 ones, #1 is invalid since the -O fix, #4 can be merged, #5 is in review |
| 11:20.05 | merlin1991 | I dunno what todo with the modest-l10n mg, it is not merged, but fixed |
| 11:22.41 | merlin1991 | hm odd, I have no freetype clone on this machine |
| 11:23.21 | merlin1991 | ah it's only in my -stable tree, seems mag built that for -testing |
| 11:23.55 | Pali | merlin1991, mark modest as merged (so it will not be open) and write that problem was fixed |
| 11:26.00 | Pali | merlin1991, for qt #5 all lines "unknown-control-file digsigsums" should be removed |
| 11:26.08 | merlin1991 | yeah I know |
| 11:26.30 | merlin1991 | that's harmattan dpkg cruft which is not affecting us :) |
| 11:26.31 | Pali | because fremantle scratchbox (or other build system) does not generate any digsigsums |
| 11:26.43 | Pali | :-) |
| 11:27.10 | Pali | and we can ignore all lintian errors |
| 11:27.21 | merlin1991 | I know too well about digsigsums, I even wrote a custom distutils module for python to build harmattan debs on regular linux :) |
| 11:27.43 | Pali | because debhelper 5 (or 4) which is supported by fremantle does not have any support for lintian |
| 11:30.45 | Pali | info to merge request added |
| 11:31.05 | Pali | arcean, merlin1991, what is wrong with hildon-desktop #24 ? |
| 11:32.59 | Pali | something which can lock orientation to portrait (for apps which support portrait) can be usefull |
| 11:33.25 | jon_y | anybody planning to roll cdebootstrap? :) |
| 11:33.40 | merlin1991 | jon_y: nfc what that even is :D |
| 11:34.19 | jon_y | C version of debootstrap |
| 11:34.32 | jon_y | roll your own easy debian in a chroot :) |
| 11:35.10 | Pali | merlin1991, also see https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/vte/merge_requests/1 |
| 11:37.08 | merlin1991 | jon_y: I don't even use easy debian :P |
| 11:37.29 | merlin1991 | arcean: care to comment on the portrait lock mg and it's shortcomings? |
| 11:37.29 | jon_y | not really easy debian, just debian |
| 11:39.22 | freemangordon | merlin1991: it works *most* of the time |
| 11:39.31 | freemangordon | I used it on my device |
| 11:40.23 | freemangordon | but it brings problems sometimes, with orientation. Can;t remember what exactly |
| 11:41.13 | freemangordon | arcean: how do you think, is it possible such functionality to be implemented? at least for h-d & co. |
| 11:45.21 | Pali | merlin1991, vte commit is bad |
| 11:46.24 | Pali | merlin1991, now after merge there is mess :-( |
| 11:46.32 | merlin1991 | hm it looked good here? |
| 11:47.12 | Pali | I used git format-patch to apply all old commits on top of nokia git repo |
| 11:47.40 | Pali | so after rewriting git history is needed to git push --force |
| 11:47.50 | Pali | to change HEAD |
| 11:48.31 | merlin1991 | well this way we keep the repo sane, but ofc I could --force a new head with a "clean" history |
| 11:48.39 | Pali | merlin1991, git reset --hard d9bae416db8945a4d08b12d057d57eea84ddae04 && git push --force |
| 11:50.25 | merlin1991 | okay did that |
| 11:50.30 | freemangordon | arcean, Pali, merlin1991: if we define what is "portrait lock" supposed to mean, I will implement ot in h-d |
| 11:50.36 | freemangordon | *it |
| 11:51.31 | Pali | there are 3 types of apps: 1) which support both modes 2) which support only landscape 3) only portrait |
| 11:51.52 | Pali | and portrait/landscape lock should be only only for type 1) |
| 11:52.41 | Pali | we should not force (by default) apps which does not support needed mode |
| 11:53.54 | Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991, arcean: what do you think about lock only for 1) ? |
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| 11:54.43 | Pali | if somebody enable forcerotation then any nonblacklisted application from 2) and 3) is moved to group 1) |
| 11:55.07 | Pali | or do you have better idea for lock? |
| 11:56.35 | freemangordon | sounds sane |
| 11:57.13 | merlin1991 | that sounds perfectly sane |
| 11:57.45 | freemangordon | and maybe it is time we should remove blacklist |
| 11:58.07 | merlin1991 | why? |
| 11:58.13 | freemangordon | and leave only whitelist for force-rotation |
| 11:58.36 | merlin1991 | people can already use the whitelist afaik |
| 11:58.50 | freemangordon | well, i'll rethink on that |
| 11:58.58 | Pali | merlin1991, conversation app should be added to blacklist |
| 11:58.59 | merlin1991 | but for whatever reasons most of them still use forced flag + blacklist |
| 11:59.18 | freemangordon | but yes, what Pali said sound sane to me. |
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| 11:59.43 | merlin1991 | Pali: I'd rather get the friggin css patch into cssu |
| 11:59.48 | freemangordon | but the first think I am going to do(after i issue new thumb -mp) |
| 11:59.53 | freemangordon | merlin1991: :nod: |
| 11:59.57 | merlin1991 | have beere? |
| 11:59.59 | merlin1991 | -e |
| 12:00.02 | Pali | merlin1991, and is that css patch working? |
| 12:00.06 | merlin1991 | Pali: yep |
| 12:00.10 | Pali | if yes, why is not in cssu yet? |
| 12:00.18 | merlin1991 | no *patch* on device |
| 12:00.20 | freemangordon | Pali: I am using it on my device since the day one |
| 12:00.22 | Pali | I thought that css patch does not working correctly |
| 12:00.32 | Pali | ah |
| 12:00.34 | merlin1991 | and we can't reship conversations since nokia closed |
| 12:00.43 | freemangordon | merlin1991: actually we can |
| 12:00.51 | merlin1991 | and nobody went and prepared proper sed / whatever scripts |
| 12:00.57 | Pali | merlin1991, ignore that nokia closed |
| 12:01.10 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: well it's cleaner if we don't reship a binary pacakge |
| 12:01.20 | Pali | quim already wrote that we can modify any nokia sw for nokia devices |
| 12:01.37 | Pali | for oss project |
| 12:01.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991: i'll upload the scripts on your server, as it is tested and works for sure |
| 12:01.43 | merlin1991 | and god forbid actually put the binary blobs into a git repo to version our stuff |
| 12:01.45 | freemangordon | s/scripts/css/ |
| 12:02.10 | Pali | freemangordon, which package has problematic css file? |
| 12:02.15 | merlin1991 | i'd rather have a funky postinst prerm package |
| 12:02.16 | freemangordon | no idea |
| 12:02.41 | freemangordon | merlin1991: that's ok, but we should have the .diff anyway |
| 12:02.51 | merlin1991 | yea |
| 12:03.06 | freemangordon | and as you have at least one "stock" device... |
| 12:03.07 | freemangordon | :P |
| 12:03.19 | arcean | Qt based apps listen to MCE, and from H-D POV you never know if they support portrait mode until you're about to rotate to portrait |
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| 12:03.56 | Pali | arcean, so need to patch qt library? |
| 12:04.20 | arcean | maybe :) |
| 12:04.20 | freemangordon | arcean: so, we can't lock qt apps? |
| 12:05.03 | Pali | ok, deb package is rtcom-messaging-ui |
| 12:05.04 | arcean | freemangordon, it's not as easy as with gtk/hildon based apps |
| 12:05.23 | freemangordon | arcean: why not? we have the source after all |
| 12:05.27 | Pali | I suggest to create new deb package rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait which dpkg-divert old file and install new |
| 12:05.29 | freemangordon | :P |
| 12:05.38 | freemangordon | Pali: :nod: |
| 12:05.57 | Pali | and include full new patched file into dsc/git/deb package |
| 12:06.07 | Pali | I can do it |
| 12:06.36 | freemangordon | ok, i'll mail you css files |
| 12:06.55 | Pali | I found this: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976 |
| 12:06.56 | freemangordon | we just need merlin to create the repo :P |
| 12:06.57 | povbot_ | Bug 11976: viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) |
| 12:07.15 | Pali | ok, now going offline |
| 12:07.45 | freemangordon | Pali: I think I use that, but some of those css have some buck, which hangs conversations app |
| 12:07.55 | freemangordon | *bug |
| 12:08.05 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: which repo? :D |
| 12:08.08 | Pali | ok, sent me to email fixed version |
| 12:08.23 | freemangordon | Pali: ok |
| 12:08.31 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, gitorious :P |
| 12:09.11 | freemangordon | anyway, the first thing to do is to RE alarm sysui plugin. IT DRIVES ME NUTS |
| 12:09.20 | freemangordon | I cannot wake up because of it :D |
| 12:13.51 | arcean | ok, here's the problem: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/blobs/master/src/gui/kernel/qwidget_x11.cpp#line266 |
| 12:14.00 | arcean | and also lines 279-281 |
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| 12:15.30 | arcean | the _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT should be always set if app supports portrait mode |
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| 13:27.00 | freemangordon | arcean: i don;t see the problem with that code. what is it? |
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| 13:27.42 | freemangordon | aah, i see, we should anly set request and have support always set |
| 13:27.47 | freemangordon | *only |
| 13:27.54 | arcean | freemangordon: yes :) |
| 13:28.48 | arcean | from H-D POV 'request ' means rotate the app to portrait as soon as possible |
| 13:29.19 | arcean | even if the current device orientation is landscape |
| 13:32.13 | merlin1991 | luf: do I need to add any extra package for pulseaudio? |
| 13:36.09 | luf | merlin1991: ugh I don't think so. But MMNT. Maybe I planned to create new package for loopback. |
| 13:36.22 | merlin1991 | mmnt? :D |
| 13:36.44 | luf | one moment please :) |
| 13:38.19 | luf | merlin1991: No extra package for pulseaudio. New code in pulseaudio-module-bluetooth and loopback is included into pulseaudio package |
| 13:38.35 | merlin1991 | thanks |
| 13:39.09 | merlin1991 | should resort the mp depends |
| 13:39.15 | merlin1991 | it's getting tedious to add stuff |
| 13:44.44 | merlin1991 | luf: does the map support in current obexd push the sms now? |
| 13:45.21 | luf | merlin1991: no push feature now for map |
| 13:45.46 | freemangordon | arcean: I know. Thak code needs to be reworked. |
| 13:45.48 | merlin1991 | okay so I can write in the changelog added initial map support (no notifications no message push) ? |
| 13:45.52 | freemangordon | *That |
| 13:46.14 | luf | merlin1991: yes. The changelog is correct in obexd. |
| 13:47.40 | freemangordon | arcean: the logic should be: if (orientation == Qt::WA_Maemo5AutoOrientation) the set(portrait_support) |
| 13:49.08 | luf | I have to leave now. But ssh over BT PAN i really good :) I'm affraid I'll have to write some app for settings bridge etc :( |
| 13:50.16 | merlin1991 | does this look about right? http://paste.debian.net/205261/ |
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| 13:59.10 | freemangordon | about right? yes :P |
| 13:59.28 | merlin1991 | I'm mainly asking if I missed a package :) |
| 13:59.46 | freemangordon | aah, luf left. i still don;t like the idea of using bridge in BT |
| 14:01.15 | freemangordon | merlin1991: IDK, there wasn't much new stuff since the last update aiui |
| 14:07.21 | merlin1991 | I have to say the D-Link DIR-635 sucks |
| 14:07.33 | merlin1991 | whenever I want to test something on the n900 the wireless is down :/ |
| 14:23.21 | merlin1991 | awesome, when I put the router into g and n mode the n900 can't find it anymore |
| 14:25.13 | merlin1991 | anybody in here who is on -testing and not -thumb (besides doc?) |
| 14:32.42 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: when are guine pig ready? |
| 14:33.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | need another 2h doing boring nuttin in job :-/ |
| 14:33.42 | merlin1991 | no worries I've got time :) |
| 14:34.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | boss busy, I'm blocked and bored |
| 14:35.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | I guess I could leave in 1:30 |
| 14:38.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: NUKE DAT DIR615!!! CRAP! |
| 14:39.47 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: I totally agree, though it's a dir635 no 615 ;) |
| 14:40.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | ooops |
| 14:42.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | prolly the sw is identical horseshit |
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| 15:52.02 | kerio | ah dammit, luf left :( |
| 15:52.38 | kerio | lols at merlin1991 not being quite able to find cssu-testing users that don't have -thumb installed :D |
| 15:53.17 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: what's the l33t router for l33t kidz nowadays? something from mikrotik? |
| 15:53.28 | kerio | i don't like the non-open OS on those routers :( |
| 15:54.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: nfc |
| 15:54.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | Imd get a fritzbox |
| 15:55.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'd* |
| 15:55.17 | kerio | what's the OS? |
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| 16:17.14 | ShadowJK | i thought fritzbox was a modem you get free? |
| 16:17.36 | ShadowJK | (just assuming since my non-geek relatives have one) |
| 16:34.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | it's foss linux |
| 16:35.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | afaik |
| 16:36.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | and it's as free as an iPhone with your carrier contract |
| 16:37.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | actually the 7390 is ~250EUR unsubsidized |
| 16:37.47 | kerio | sheeeeeeeeet |
| 16:38.17 | kerio | a routerboard with gigE and dual-band wifi is like 80$ |
| 16:38.28 | kerio | it doesn't do voip though |
| 16:38.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | and no p2p downloads on USB mass stoarge |
| 16:39.20 | kerio | i have a sheevaplug for that |
| 16:39.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | LOL |
| 16:39.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | and shivaplug is how much? |
| 16:40.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | (incl psu etc) |
| 16:42.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | I got a wrt53g now |
| 16:42.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | with ddWRT |
| 16:43.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | just works |
| 16:44.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | of course no awesome DSL modem, so no diagnostics for DSL |
| 16:44.27 | ShadowJK | has a tp-link 1043nd, a linksys wrt54gl (tomato fw), and a sheevaplug |
| 16:45.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | err 54 |
| 16:45.18 | ShadowJK | sheevaplug psu is pants. I ripped it out and replaced it with a wallwart bought from a consumer electronics store |
| 16:46.07 | ShadowJK | Heh, i guess my linksys is on about its fifth psu too. The router is approaching 10 years in age couple years still |
| 16:49.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: btw fsck the voip, the fritzbox comes with analog+ISDN, and DECT as well |
| 16:49.49 | kerio | ShadowJK: i got my PSU replaced under warranty |
| 16:49.59 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: a guruplug is like 120$ |
| 16:50.03 | kerio | *dreamplug |
| 16:50.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | you cna get PBX that do less for mor $$$ |
| 16:52.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | so what? add in a TA and a DSL modem, and a DECT station, and you're WAAAY beyond 250 |
| 16:54.00 | kerio | but i already have a sheevaplug |
| 16:54.04 | kerio | i won't substitute that |
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| 16:59.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | I won't waste my time answering your questions if you don't wanna hear them |
| 16:59.24 | kerio | :( |
| 16:59.37 | kerio | you're mean! |
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| 17:18.30 | ShadowJK | shipping made warranty not worth it |
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| 18:27.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: I'll be back from shopping in 45 min |
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| 18:58.48 | Pali | merlin1991, will you include ke-recv patch from https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-ke-recv to next devel/cssu? |
| 18:58.55 | Pali | or testing? |
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| 20:26.15 | merlin1991 | shit I knew I'll forget something |
| 20:26.30 | merlin1991 | well luckily so far only I did *test* the new release :) |
| 20:26.45 | merlin1991 | Pali: I'll test it and depending on the result include it :) |
| 20:26.52 | Pali | ok, thanks! |
| 20:27.47 | merlin1991 | hm if [ -z "$IP_GW" ]; then IP_GW=${IP_ADDR%.*}.$((${IP_ADDR##*.}-1)); fi wtf is the result then? :D |
| 20:28.33 | merlin1991 | (in case IP_GW is empty) |
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| 21:08.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | advanced shell expansion obfuscation |
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| 21:16.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: lol, it calculates an IP with last octet decremented by one, from IP_ADD |
| 21:17.01 | merlin1991 | okay :) |
| 21:26.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ${parameter##word} Remove matching prefix pattern. (greedy) |
| 21:26.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | ${parameter%word} Remove matching suffix pattern. |
| 21:27.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1.2.3.4%.* -> 1.2.3 |
| 21:28.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1.2.3.4##*. -> 4 |
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| 22:52.38 | merlin1991 | 3rd party c# api devs should be killed on the spot |
| 22:52.53 | merlin1991 | I got an OutOfMemory Exception when calling some stuff |
| 22:53.13 | merlin1991 | guess what I have 5 gigs of free ram, It's actually a nullpointerexception ! |
| 22:53.16 | merlin1991 | headdesks |
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| 23:07.07 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, you are right. by default maemo using 192.168.2.15 and 192.168.2.14 ip addresses for USB network |
| 23:08.15 | Pali | but if somebody change it in /etc/network/intterfaces and maybe disable route, we need to calculate second ip addr somehow... |
| 23:08.41 | Pali | merlin1991 ^^^ |
| 23:09.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | thought as much |
| 23:10.48 | merlin1991 | Pali: we should add an option to run a dhc client on the usb connection instead though |
| 23:11.00 | merlin1991 | s/dhc/dhcp/ |
| 23:11.27 | Pali | merlin1991, this can be configured by some icd2 plugin |
| 23:11.50 | merlin1991 | but the script would run regardless |
| 23:12.09 | Pali | but adding also configuration should be usefull (to have all at one place) |
| 23:12.25 | merlin1991 | you mean ip gw and whatnot? |
| 23:14.09 | Pali | that option to run udhcpc instead ifup |
| 23:14.37 | Pali | hm, I think that /etc/network/interfaces support udhcpc client |
| 23:15.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | YAY THAT took a WHILE... I wondered why this shell expansion magic looked fishy |
| 23:15.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | now I figure it might've been because of IPv6 |
| 23:15.38 | Pali | and if you call ifup usb0 it look at interfaces and run needed comamnds... |
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