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| 07:26.41 | freemangordon | merlin1991: would you import http://maemo.gitorious.org/calendar-backend/calendar-backend/trees/PE1 to CSSU? |
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| 09:53.30 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/calendar-backend |
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| 12:45.40 | luf | kerio: is patched bluez-4.99 better for you? Or do you still have some troubles with it? |
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| 13:57.20 | kerio | luf: idk if the problems i seldom have are also in the stock bluez |
| 13:58.50 | kerio | everything works fine pretty much every time |
| 13:58.54 | kerio | except for some times |
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| 14:14.11 | luf | kerio: are you able to track it deeper? |
| 14:14.33 | luf | Enable debug and syslog, ... ? |
| 14:37.58 | jon_y | "THIS HANDSET HAS A KEYPAD LOCK CODE" <- you mean the lock screen after pressing the power button? |
| 14:38.46 | jon_y | would get it for £100.00, if I was in the UK |
| 14:39.07 | jon_y | oops wrong channel |
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| 15:55.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: stolen N900? |
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| 15:56.55 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
| 15:58.28 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 15:58.33 | merlin1991 | btw https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/calendar-backend |
| 15:58.40 | freemangordon | aah, thanks :D |
| 15:58.45 | freemangordon | that is what I wanted |
| 15:58.53 | merlin1991 | I pushed the pe1 branch to master |
| 15:59.41 | freemangordon | .so size is rediced from over 1MiB to below ~650k with thumb :D |
| 15:59.47 | freemangordon | *reduced |
| 15:59.52 | freemangordon | thanks again |
| 16:00.04 | merlin1991 | nice :) |
| 16:00.11 | freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW are we sure this is the same source as in PR1.3? |
| 16:00.24 | freemangordon | I mean, any "official" confirmation? |
| 16:00.40 | merlin1991 | no idea |
| 16:00.54 | freemangordon | hmm. well, will take the risk |
| 16:01.39 | freemangordon | ~seen zeq |
| 16:01.45 | infobot | zeq <~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3:1:e6ec:10ff:fe9a:d418> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 47d 1h 58m 37s ago, saying: 'hi freemangordon'. |
| 16:01.49 | freemangordon | ~seen zeq1 |
| 16:01.49 | infobot | zeq1 <~s_j_newbu@2a01:348:1e3::a71> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 11d 6h 45m 35s ago, saying: 'plus less flash wear'. |
| 16:03.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | seen should learn to use wildcards |
| 16:03.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | bbl |
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| 16:46.19 | Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991, I got email from calendar devs that pe branch contains pr1.3 source code |
| 16:46.50 | Pali | (some months ago...) |
| 16:47.00 | freemangordon | Pali: thanks |
| 16:47.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991: calendar-backend (0.8-6+0m5+0cssu1+thumb1) |
| 16:47.08 | freemangordon | is that ok? |
| 16:47.16 | merlin1991 | sounds about right |
| 16:47.21 | freemangordon | ok |
| 16:47.30 | merlin1991 | btw Pali you wanted to make the ke-recv changes configureable, any news there? |
| 16:47.32 | Pali | freemangordon, check also version string on downloads.maemo.nokia.com |
| 16:47.39 | freemangordon | .so is 648k :D:D:D |
| 16:47.48 | freemangordon | Pali: I already did, on the device |
| 16:47.57 | freemangordon | calendar-backe 0.8-6+0m5 Calendar backend libraries |
| 16:48.13 | freemangordon | according to dpkg -l |
| 16:49.50 | Pali | merlin1991, alredy implemented: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-ke-recv |
| 16:50.13 | Pali | but I do not remember changes, it is more then month old... |
| 16:50.32 | merlin1991 | why did it never end up in a merge request? :D |
| 16:50.50 | Pali | merlin1991, I do not know... |
| 16:50.57 | Pali | ... but I think that I forgot it |
| 16:51.09 | Pali | I had more exams in september... |
| 16:51.36 | merlin1991 | okay I'll give it a quick test and release it with the coming -testing :) |
| 16:51.47 | Pali | needs testing... |
| 16:52.15 | Pali | freemangordon, in deb package is also ./usr/share/doc/calendar-backend/changelog.gz and ./usr/share/doc/calendar-backend/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 16:52.29 | Pali | try to compare changelogs from deb package and from repository |
| 16:52.53 | freemangordon | hmm |
| 16:53.22 | Pali | $ aptitude download calendar-backend |
| 16:54.03 | Pali | https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/calendar-backend_0.8-6+0m5_armel.deb |
| 16:56.37 | freemangordon | I suspect i need user and pw :D |
| 16:57.02 | Pali | cat /etc/apt/auth |
| 16:57.23 | Pali | I do not know it (that mess of chars...) |
| 16:57.46 | Pali | with new wget you need to pass --auth-no-challenge param |
| 16:57.55 | Pali | (n900 has old wget) |
| 16:57.55 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 17:00.10 | freemangordon | the last before "BIFH queue..." is fix for NB#178453 and the version is the same |
| 17:00.20 | freemangordon | so I assume those are the correct sources |
| 17:13.53 | freemangordon | well, birthdays are still visible after i installed thummb calendar-backend, seems like it is ok |
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| 17:50.20 | freemangordon | merlin1991: is EDS in -testing? |
| 17:50.49 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 17:50.59 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 18:10.59 | kerio | freemangordon: news? |
| 18:11.17 | freemangordon | as in? |
| 18:11.40 | freemangordon | calendar-backend is in -thumb, EDS soon to follow |
| 18:11.48 | kerio | :D |
| 18:11.50 | kerio | what's EDS? |
| 18:11.55 | kerio | oh, evolution-data-server? |
| 18:12.00 | kerio | brb updatan |
| 18:12.10 | freemangordon | wai |
| 18:12.13 | freemangordon | wait |
| 18:12.16 | freemangordon | for EDS |
| 18:12.27 | freemangordon | 1-2 minutes |
| 18:12.29 | kerio | why, calendar-backend won't work? |
| 18:12.36 | kerio | i can afford two apt-get updates :) |
| 18:12.44 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 18:12.56 | freemangordon | you have backup, ain't? |
| 18:13.05 | kerio | ...i hope so |
| 18:13.10 | kerio | lololololo |
| 18:13.33 | kerio | my last backup is from yesterday 1805 |
| 18:13.43 | kerio | ...i don't think i changed anything since then, so... |
| 18:13.45 | freemangordon | good |
| 18:13.56 | kerio | srsly tho, don't make me have to restore :c |
| 18:14.19 | freemangordon | well, wait to test EDS then |
| 18:14.23 | freemangordon | *me to test |
| 18:14.39 | kerio | nah, i'll test it and then complain loudly if it doesn't work |
| 18:15.16 | freemangordon | noone will hear you screaming :D:D:D |
| 18:15.44 | kerio | i have no calendar and i must scream |
| 18:16.08 | freemangordon | have no calendar? buy one :P |
| 18:18.00 | kerio | CSSU-Thumb, calendar not included |
| 18:18.11 | freemangordon | what? |
| 18:18.15 | kerio | do i have to reboot to make the new calendar backend work? |
| 18:18.22 | kerio | freemangordon: 'twas a joke |
| 18:18.26 | freemangordon | yes |
| 18:18.45 | freemangordon | hmm, something is fishy here |
| 18:18.49 | kerio | D: |
| 18:18.59 | freemangordon | with EDS I mean |
| 18:19.15 | kerio | phew c: |
| 18:19.58 | freemangordon | it does not free space, which usually is sign of troubles |
| 18:27.14 | freemangordon | hmm, seems apt is lying to me |
| 18:29.53 | freemangordon | kerio: feel free to upgrade EDS too |
| 18:30.45 | kerio | k |
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| 19:05.53 | freemangordon | kerio: any news? |
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| 19:18.08 | kerio | freemangordon: it's cold here |
| 19:18.16 | kerio | i prefer the summer :c |
| 19:18.24 | kerio | i hear it's much worse in north america |
| 19:29.58 | freemangordon | kerio: yeah, it's cold here as well, some 2-3 deg |
| 19:30.06 | kerio | D: |
| 19:30.11 | kerio | i'm talking about like 15 |
| 19:30.17 | freemangordon | lol |
| 19:30.44 | freemangordon | well, tomorrow is expected to be around 20, but lets see :D |
| 19:30.46 | kerio | ok, i lied, the low temp is 4 |
| 19:30.54 | freemangordon | same here |
| 19:31.04 | freemangordon | BTW where do you live? |
| 19:31.08 | kerio | rome |
| 19:31.24 | freemangordon | aah, I was there in february |
| 19:31.27 | freemangordon | nice place |
| 19:31.51 | kerio | indeed |
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| 20:23.41 | DataGhost | so I was just in #maemo |
| 20:23.51 | DataGhost | c/p: I'm having this weird issue which I've pinned down to python-qt apps (normal Qt apps work fine) but I can't really seem to find the cause... alarmed and syncevolution-frontend (both python-qt apps) don't really show any control outlines, backgrounds etc, just the text (for input boxes this turns out to be black on black). If I run the apps as root, they work fine. I did an strace on |
| 20:23.52 | DataGhost | alarmed and it showed that user was trying to connect() to /tmp/sapwood-:0.0, which failed with ECONNREFUSED, and root successfully connect()ed to /var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0, which are both not on the filesystem, by the way. |
| 20:24.19 | DataGhost | it's also broken for the 'developer' user and for 'testuser' which I just created with adduser -m testuser, reboots don't fix the problem |
| 20:25.06 | freemangordon | DataGhost: under what account runs sapwood-server? |
| 20:25.10 | DataGhost | and I'd rather not reflash :) so for now it seems (to me) to be a problem in something which is not my user-profile but some permission thing but I have no idea where to look for it |
| 20:25.53 | DataGhost | it's running as 'user' |
| 20:25.56 | freemangordon | is it under user or root? |
| 20:26.02 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:28.54 | freemangordon | DataGhost: maybe you should look in /proc/`pidof sapwood-server` |
| 20:29.00 | freemangordon | for some idea |
| 20:29.52 | DataGhost | if I "su user" as root (as opposed to "su - user") and then run it, it still doesn't work so it's probably not in the environment. I'll check out /proc now but I'm not really sure what I should be looking for |
| 20:30.09 | freemangordon | neither am I |
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| 20:32.14 | DataGhost | ok. somewhat expectable. I have fd 0 1 and 2 to pipes and /dev/console, then fd 3 and 4 are sockets. if I start alarmed as root, I get an fd 5 (socket), which disappears when I close it again. if I start alarmed as user, that socket does not appear |
| 20:34.23 | freemangordon | DataGhost: do you have bb-power installed? |
| 20:34.40 | kerio | freemangordon: anyway, it appears that EDS works |
| 20:35.18 | DataGhost | "dpkg -l | grep bb-" shows nothing, so I guess not. do you know if sapwood-server outputs anything? maybe I can get stdout/stderr somewhere |
| 20:35.54 | kerio | DataGhost: busybox-power |
| 20:36.21 | DataGhost | nope, I don't have it |
| 20:36.22 | kerio | here in #maemo-ssu we try to use as few internets as possible |
| 20:36.25 | kerio | so the tubes don't get clogged |
| 20:40.16 | DataGhost | hm. if I strace -p `pidof sapwood-server` I don't see anything if I start alarmed as user but I get some output as root, also expectable of course |
| 20:41.02 | freemangordon | DataGhost: could you echo $TMPDIR? |
| 20:41.12 | freemangordon | from user and root |
| 20:42.09 | DataGhost | /var/tmp for both. somewhat odd that it's looking in /tmp for user and /var/tmp for root then |
| 20:42.59 | freemangordon | DataGhost: this is your problem then, your $TMPDIR should point to /var/lib. |
| 20:43.03 | freemangordon | oops |
| 20:43.14 | freemangordon | "/var/tmp" |
| 20:43.56 | freemangordon | somehow your $TMPDIR is set to /tmp for those failing applications |
| 20:43.58 | DataGhost | yes but that's exactly what it points at, for user and for root. only thing is that alarmed/python *looks* in /tmp for user and in /var/tmp for root. I can't find this in a diff of all environment for both users |
| 20:44.22 | freemangordon | ptrace/strace? |
| 20:44.25 | DataGhost | but I'll keep looking into this then |
| 20:44.55 | DataGhost | just a second, I'll pastebin the relevant parts |
| 20:45.42 | freemangordon | DataGhost: can you try run-standalone.sh echo $TMPDIR |
| 20:47.15 | DataGhost | http://pastebin.com/HFvGBs9J |
| 20:47.59 | freemangordon | DataGhost: ^^^ |
| 20:48.17 | DataGhost | also both the same |
| 20:48.38 | DataGhost | yeah sorry for the delays, I'm using ssh over wifi and the power saving is making things slow some times |
| 20:48.52 | DataGhost | the same = /var/tmp |
| 20:49.01 | freemangordon | DataGhost: try run-standalone.sh alarmd |
| 20:49.21 | DataGhost | already did that, same result, and I guess you mean run-standalone.sh /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py |
| 20:49.22 | freemangordon | (or whatever the failing binary is) |
| 20:49.35 | freemangordon | aah, it is python |
| 20:49.40 | DataGhost | yes |
| 20:49.53 | DataGhost | Qt binaries have no problem |
| 20:50.04 | freemangordon | afaik there is new python in the repos, are you sure you didn;t upgrade? |
| 20:50.31 | DataGhost | quite, that wouldn't come in through HAM, right? |
| 20:50.43 | freemangordon | IDK |
| 20:50.47 | DataGhost | I have some devel-packages but I used pinning for the normal repos |
| 20:51.04 | freemangordon | python --version? |
| 20:51.06 | DataGhost | I don't remember any python upgrade anyway, just CSSU and some random apps. I never apt-get upgrade from the commandline |
| 20:51.14 | DataGhost | 2.5.4 |
| 20:51.18 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:54.48 | DataGhost | TMPDIR=/var/tmp TEMP=/var/tmp TMP=/var/tmp /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py |
| 20:54.49 | DataGhost | that works |
| 20:54.50 | DataGhost | \o/ |
| 20:55.30 | DataGhost | just setting TMP is sufficient |
| 20:55.52 | freemangordon | do you have TMP set? |
| 20:56.07 | DataGhost | no, it's empty |
| 20:56.18 | freemangordon | empty or not set? |
| 20:56.41 | DataGhost | "set | grep TMP" only lists TMPDIR so I'd say not set |
| 20:56.48 | freemangordon | same here |
| 20:58.10 | freemangordon | DataGhost: well, maybe you shoud ask aapo... on TMO, he is the one to bring python2.7 to fremantle, so maybe he can help |
| 20:58.27 | DataGhost | I don't know if you have alarmed, syncevolution-frontend or another py/qt app but you could try "strace /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py 2>&1 |grep sapwood" and see if it does use /var/tmp on your device? |
| 20:58.29 | freemangordon | I know nothing about python :D |
| 20:58.46 | DataGhost | yeah me neither :P but at least I have a fix for now |
| 20:59.12 | freemangordon | DataGhost: <MrPingu> DataGhost: I syncevolution-frontend working fine and I am on CSSU-T(thumb) |
| 21:00.11 | DataGhost | ah yesah yes. MrPingu could you "strace syncevolution-frontend 2>&1|grep sapwood |grep connect"? :) |
| 21:06.39 | DataGhost | and "set | grep TMP; set | grep TEMP" |
| 21:06.45 | DataGhost | it also works with TEMP instead of TMP |
| 21:12.42 | MrPingu | Sorry, was away |
| 21:13.39 | MrPingu | lemme install strace first then :P |
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| 21:18.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: so what's it you wanna get checked? |
| 21:19.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | and on which system? |
| 21:20.41 | DataGhost | DocScrutinizer05: MrPingu is already checking something I guess :) but an strace of syncevolution-frontend or alarmed.py piped through those two greps, on an N900 which does not experience my problem, as 'user', would be helpful |
| 21:20.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# set|grep T.*MP |
| 21:20.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | TMPDIR=/var/tmp |
| 21:21.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | id = root though |
| 21:21.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | mompls |
| 21:22.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | EUID=user, same |
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| 21:24.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | grep sapwood|grep connect?? |
| 21:24.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, whatever you say |
| 21:25.34 | DataGhost | yep |
| 21:25.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | bad news: nuttin |
| 21:26.07 | DataGhost | even after you close the program? (buffers and such) |
| 21:26.37 | MrPingu | nothing |
| 21:26.48 | DataGhost | huh |
| 21:26.54 | DataGhost | and without |grep connect? |
| 21:26.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | for unclear reasons, since leaving out grep connect gives (among others) |
| 21:26.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | connect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0"}, 110) = 0 |
| 21:27.06 | DataGhost | ah ok |
| 21:27.07 | MrPingu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.07 | MrPingu | connect(7, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0"}, 110) = 0 |
| 21:27.07 | MrPingu | ~ $ |
| 21:27.07 | infobot | rumour has it, $ is a dollar sign |
| 21:27.26 | freemangordon | OLRY? |
| 21:27.29 | MrPingu | oops |
| 21:27.32 | DataGhost | so it's using /var/tmp as it should. and "set|grep T.*MP"? |
| 21:27.40 | DataGhost | all as 'user', right? :) |
| 21:27.59 | MrPingu | DataGhost:user, yes |
| 21:28.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, wtf did the first cmdline with grep connect not yield any matches? o.O |
| 21:28.59 | DataGhost | did you ctrl+c it? |
| 21:29.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 21:29.08 | DataGhost | I didn't get output until I used the close-button |
| 21:29.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
| 21:29.20 | MrPingu | DataGhost: same |
| 21:29.27 | DataGhost | so only TMPDIR |
| 21:29.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | connect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0"}, 110) = 0 anyway, while it's still running |
| 21:29.50 | DataGhost | so something on my device is screwed up so that it uses the proper thing for root and something else for all other users. nice. :P |
| 21:30.51 | DataGhost | and I'm not sure if this is something that should be fixed in python (if it's the only affected package) or that everyone should have TMP and TEMP set as well as TMPDIR :P |
| 21:31.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, pipe issue |
| 21:32.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | use >> strace alarmed 2>&1|grep 'conn.*sapwood' << |
| 21:34.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | anything else I could do for you? |
| 21:35.06 | freemangordon | can you grep for TMP? |
| 21:35.08 | DataGhost | nope, thanks. I have enough information, I'll prod someone on the forums for something more permanent, I guess |
| 21:35.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe point you in general direction busybox-power and .bashrc, .profile etc? |
| 21:35.24 | freemangordon | instead of connect |
| 21:35.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | YES I CAN! |
| 21:36.00 | freemangordon | DataGhost: ^^^ |
| 21:36.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | everything |
| 21:36.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | but why |
| 21:36.24 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: not you :) |
| 21:36.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | still why? |
| 21:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | use >> strace alarmed 2>&1|grep 'conn.*sapwood' << |
| 21:37.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | double pipe spoils stuff |
| 21:37.13 | freemangordon | as there is some other place besides $TMPDIR this /tmp comes from |
| 21:37.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, np |
| 21:39.34 | MrPingu | DocScrutinizer05: where to use >> |
| 21:39.51 | MrPingu | oh nvm |
| 21:39.53 | DataGhost | oh in the filesystem, I thought in the strace. yeah I'll let that sit for a while |
| 21:39.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | as a replacement for """" |
| 21:41.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | connect(9, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 20) = 0 |
| 21:41.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | connect(11, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 20) = 0 |
| 21:41.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | connect(12, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0"}, 110) = 0 |
| 21:41.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | connect(13, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/dbus-wljyeomC0R"}, 23) = 0 |
| 21:41.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | open("/tmp/alarmed.lock", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_LARGEFILE, 0666) = 15 |
| 21:43.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | hth |
| 21:43.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
| 21:43.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | bbl |
| 21:47.13 | DataGhost | ok so if you're grepping for something and putting it in a file |
| 21:47.17 | DataGhost | make sure to exclude that file |
| 21:54.00 | trumee | freemangordon, do you use nokia messaging? |
| 21:59.09 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: no, not stolen, it was supposed to reply to vi_ in #maemo |
| 21:59.53 | jon_y | he mentioned an ebay bid for 2 N900s, but the pictures looked funny |
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| 22:30.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: eh? |
| 22:30.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat x >>x ?? |
| 22:32.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo ten_bytes>file, head -n 100000 file >>file |
| 22:32.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | to create a 1MB file with known content |
| 22:33.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/,/;/ |
| 22:35.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: ulimit -f |
| 22:38.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | though fsckng busybox doesn't support it? |
| 22:40.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe maemo doesn't support it? |
| 22:41.31 | DataGhost | no I was doing a recursive grep and piping it through tee, so when grep hit that file, tee kept on filling it and grep kept on grepping that |
| 22:43.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, maemo just blows chunks on 10000000 blocks for ulimit -f |
| 22:44.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | DataGhost: well, that's exactly what I commented about in prev posts |
| 22:44.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | since you can do same thing with less cpu load, by cat x >>x |
| 22:45.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | and you can stop impact of both by ulimit -f <blocks> |
| 22:46.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I guess on maemo there's an implicit "ulimit -f" of 2GB filesize anyway |
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