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08:57.52kerioPali: i'm having problems with brctl from busybox-power
09:00.00kerioor maybe i'm having problems with bluetoothd
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09:00.36kerioPali: oh nvm, you need to configure the interface down before deleting it
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14:07.14DocScrutinizer05who knows about blacklist and how it works?
14:07.31DocScrutinizer05I have a "bug" that needs fixing
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16:00.54DocScrutinizer05PATCH:  `echo "21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1" >/etc/osso_software_version`
16:01.37DocScrutinizer05where from does "About CSSU:" get its version string?
16:02.59DocScrutinizer05less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit
16:04.41DocScrutinizer05HMMM
16:04.44DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
16:04.45DocScrutinizer05|/usr/sbin/rich-core-dumper --pid=%p --signal=%s --name=%e
16:05.40DocScrutinizer05t900:~# cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
16:05.41DocScrutinizer05/what/me/worry
16:09.10merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: re where about cssu gets the version: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libcpaboutcssu/blobs/master/src/libcpaboutcssu.c#line26
16:10.19DocScrutinizer05ohlol
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16:10.31DocScrutinizer05anyway we should export that
16:10.46merlin1991nope.jpg
16:11.05merlin1991pc-suite checks that stuff
16:11.10DocScrutinizer05o.O
16:11.13merlin1991and get's all weird if it sees our string
16:11.28DocScrutinizer05check WHAT stuff?
16:11.52DocScrutinizer05do you say we delete /etc/osso_software_version ?
16:13.01DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit
16:13.57DocScrutinizer05though...: less "+/worry" /etc/init.d/rcS
16:14.44DocScrutinizer05needs MOAR COFFEE
16:15.01merlin1991well I thought it's stored there, but the system stores the osso-software-version somewhere
16:15.17merlin1991it's in the postinst script of the mp
16:15.40merlin1991https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/postinst
16:15.45merlin1991and that is stored somewhere
16:15.46DocScrutinizer05my /etc/osso_software_version is nonexistent on both devices
16:16.46DocScrutinizer05(both means: on CSSU-T and on stock-PR1.2++ with KP46)
16:19.18DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: re https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/postinst  --  that's just osso-product-info
16:19.58DocScrutinizer05OSSO_VERSION='RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0'
16:20.22DocScrutinizer05it's largely unrelated to /etc/osso_software_version
16:20.56DocScrutinizer05at least I'd assume so, since /etc/osso_software_version is nonexistent here
16:21.23merlin1991yeah seems I mixed those up
16:22.56DocScrutinizer05NB I didn't suggest to do   osso-product-info -q OSSO_VERSION > /etc/osso_software_version
16:23.44DocScrutinizer05though we *could* do that as well, modulo testing if it's already available during preinit
16:26.52DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: could you also point me to the HD blacklist code please?
16:27.16merlin1991uh better ask arcean
16:27.24DocScrutinizer05:nod:
16:27.25merlin1991what exactly do you want to check?
16:27.56merlin1991ie. the balcklist stuff not working?
16:28.09DocScrutinizer05http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html#t2012-10-21T17:23:53
16:28.10merlin1991because arcean has made some changes which gets that stuff life
16:28.28merlin1991ah yeah
16:28.38merlin1991okay well that would need a patch :)
16:29.03merlin1991but you can check the diffs from the last merge request (I didn't merge it yet) because it's in the code area
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16:33.26*** topic/#maemo-ssu by DocScrutinizer05 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1
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16:39.11kerioDocScrutinizer05: wtf is osso_software_version
16:39.43keriomerlin1991: to be fair we don't want pcsuite to dick around our software
16:39.46DocScrutinizer05a file?
16:40.34DocScrutinizer05the name suggests it has software version as content
16:40.54keriooh
16:41.02keriothen why not something better, like cssu_version?
16:41.06DocScrutinizer05and this software version string is used in >> less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit
16:41.15keriooic
16:42.21DocScrutinizer05means: without a osso_software_version file we won't see proper coredumps during init
16:42.41kerioDocScrutinizer05: hm
16:42.57kerioto be fair we can just call it %e-%s-%p.core
16:43.09kerioalso, rcS resets that
16:43.10DocScrutinizer05though...: less "+/worry" /etc/init.d/rcS
16:43.15kerio:D
16:43.41DocScrutinizer05we can't call nuttin, we're not preinit
16:44.00kerioof course we're preinit
16:44.11kerioisn't getbootstate open?
16:44.13DocScrutinizer05not until we put that hat on
16:44.15freemangordonDocScrutinizer05, merlin1991: SW version is stored in CAL
16:44.26keriofreemangordon: then why doesn't preinit grab that?
16:44.41DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: irrelevant
16:44.41kerioDocScrutinizer05: ohohoho, non-free/garbage
16:44.53freemangordonkerio: not exactly ;)
16:45.26freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/cal/cal
16:45.44freemangordonkerio: and what preinit does grab?
16:46.05keriofreemangordon: /etc/osso_software_version
16:46.27freemangordonit might be because of SB
16:46.44keriofreemangordon: damn, you're smart
16:46.50keriothat kinda makes sense
16:47.05kerioalthough i thought osso-product-info still worked
16:47.06keriooh well
16:47.08DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit
16:47.50freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I am late to the party, elaborate please
16:47.53keriofreemangordon: btw, can calcal write cal too?
16:47.58freemangordonyep
16:48.07kerioand is cal knowledgeable about the state of mtd?
16:48.12DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: just do less "+/prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit
16:48.14freemangordonyep
16:48.39freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: sorry. I am not much into shell scripting, what is that supposed to do
16:48.41freemangordon?
16:49.00DocScrutinizer05display some enlightening text to you
16:49.44DocScrutinizer05whicj I think is useless to pastebin since you already have it on your device
16:50.45freemangordonno less here ;)
16:50.53DocScrutinizer05ohwell
16:51.19keriofreemangordon: you suck
16:51.33DocScrutinizer05then try grep -A 7 "prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit
16:52.36freemangordon<PROTECTED>
16:52.38freemangordon?
16:52.42freemangordonyou mean that?
16:53.01freemangordonI suspect these are remnants from diablo scripts
16:53.25DocScrutinizer05yep, sure
16:53.34DocScrutinizer05we can put them to purpose again
16:54.36DocScrutinizer05all we need is a /etc/osso_software_version with some semi-sane content
16:55.02freemangordonfor CSSU?
16:55.06DocScrutinizer05sure
16:55.10freemangordonwe can use CAL
16:55.17DocScrutinizer05no we can't
16:55.28DocScrutinizer05since that's not what preinit does
16:55.44freemangordonbut why you need SW version in preinit?
16:56.00DocScrutinizer05grep -A 7 "prepare_core\(\)" /sbin/preinit
16:56.31DocScrutinizer05o.O is it me or does my coffee not kick in?
16:57.16freemangordonecho "/media/mmc1/core-dumps/%e-%s-%p-$release.core" >/proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
16:57.22freemangordon^ ?
16:57.32freemangordonI still don't get the idea
16:58.28kerioto get core dumps during init
16:58.38keriolike, until the core_pattern becomes /what/me/worry
17:00.14DocScrutinizer05I'd consider to comment that shit out
17:01.00DocScrutinizer05since it belongs into /etc/pmconfig I'd think
17:01.36freemangordoncore dumps during init?
17:01.46freemangordonwhat is that needed for?
17:02.01DocScrutinizer05errm nope, not into that particular file
17:02.12kerioDocScrutinizer05: is it even used, anyway?
17:02.17DocScrutinizer05what for are coredumps needed anyway?
17:02.24keriokernel-config does its own thing
17:02.58DocScrutinizer05locate kernel-config >>null
17:03.31DocScrutinizer05and pmconfig used for sure
17:04.13keriohaha
17:04.44DocScrutinizer05yet it's not the right place for setting value of /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern
17:05.41keriowhy the hell do we have these weird scripts instead of something that loads /etc/sysctl.conf[.d/*] is beyond me
17:05.43DocScrutinizer05I'd guess the KP devels had no idea about pmconfig, so invented their own crap
17:05.46kerioand no, procps doesn't count
17:06.07kerioDocScrutinizer05: is pmconfig also appropriate for voltage settings?
17:06.36DocScrutinizer05voltage_off_while_idle 1
17:06.37freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: the idea is that in case of unexpected reboot, KP scripts are not loaded
17:06.37DocScrutinizer05scaling_governor ondemand
17:06.38DocScrutinizer05scaling_max_freq 600000
17:06.44kerio...oh
17:06.46freemangordonpreventing you from entering a reboot loop
17:06.55keriooh right, there's that too
17:07.19DocScrutinizer05whatever, we're straying away from topic
17:07.29keriothe topic is CSSU!
17:07.35keriowe're *always* offtopic here
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17:07.57kerioanyway, getbootstate is non-free, but i suppose that we only need to change a script anyway
17:08.33kerioSection: non-free/garbage
17:08.36keriogarbage indeed
17:08.59DocScrutinizer05wtf with getbootstate??
17:09.15DocScrutinizer05how's that related now?
17:09.47DocScrutinizer05or is that a third topic you like to throw in just for fun
17:10.04kerioDocScrutinizer05: /sbin/preinit is part of getbootstate
17:10.12DocScrutinizer05WUT?
17:10.26DocScrutinizer05a script is part of a binary?
17:10.26keriooh right we don't need to modify it
17:10.37kerioDocScrutinizer05: the "getbootstate" package
17:10.54DocScrutinizer05oh
17:11.43freemangordonkerio: getbootstate is about 8k binary, I can RE it while I have my first coffee for the day. But I don't think we really need that
17:12.14freemangordonanyway, I am back to ramzswap
17:12.22DocScrutinizer05muses about /media/mmc1 which is *maybe* correct during early boot, but definitely changes during udev when swapping mmc1 with mmc0
17:12.38kerioDocScrutinizer05: oh, i just assumed it was referring to the uSD
17:12.55kerioDocScrutinizer05: kinda hard to get the core dump out of MyDocs if the system can't boot, after all
17:13.19DocScrutinizer05good point indeed
17:13.27keriois it even mounted at that point?
17:13.29kerio:s
17:13.32DocScrutinizer05I also prefer to have coredumps on uSD
17:14.19DocScrutinizer05kerio: doesn't matter if it's mounted, the string in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern gets evaluated when a coredump happens
17:14.27kerioDocScrutinizer05: btw, can you paste the output of grep swapon /etc/event.d/rcS-late please?
17:14.55kerioDocScrutinizer05: yeah but when is it mounted? kinda useless to put the coredump there if the uSD is mounted after everything else has already happened
17:15.01DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
17:15.12kerioswapon -a? wtf
17:15.29keriomaybe i modified my fstab generator and i don't remember it?
17:15.35kerioDocScrutinizer05: is there a swap entry in fstab?
17:15.54DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
17:16.40keriooh, i don't have that partition anymore
17:16.42kerioi see
17:20.42keriomeh, i should probably disable the autogenerated fstab
17:20.45kerioit's a silly idea anyway
17:22.22DocScrutinizer05the rationale indeed seems a bit obscure
17:22.47DocScrutinizer05I'm tempted to call it legacy
17:25.33kerioDocScrutinizer05: also, my geometry of /dev/mmcblk0 and /dev/mmcblk1 is fucked up :s
17:25.43kerioDocScrutinizer05: do you get warnings from sfdisk -l?
17:28.01DocScrutinizer05nope
17:28.38DocScrutinizer05well, yep
17:28.58DocScrutinizer05for mmcblk1
17:29.55DocScrutinizer05but fstab is generated from output of sfdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 anyway
17:30.20DocScrutinizer05and that is rather rare to ever change
17:30.40DocScrutinizer05who would repartition his eMMC between two boots?
17:31.17DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
17:32.05DocScrutinizer05less "+/Generate fstab" /etc/event.d/rcS-late
17:32.08DocScrutinizer05screwit
17:35.50DocScrutinizer05remember my rant about >> less "+/fsck_ext3" /etc/event.d/rcS-late << without any notification for user, so they could tell boot is not hanging but actually DOING something that could take hours
17:36.39DocScrutinizer05would also need a patch, to switch notrifier LED to a warning pattern, like red/yellow blinking
17:37.10DocScrutinizer05if we can't get proper warning text displayed on framebuffer
17:38.00DocScrutinizer05I mean, how insane is THAT, to start a fsck.ext3 without telling user "hey dude, grab a coffe, this will take a while!"
17:40.51DocScrutinizer05I smell a massive CSSU patch coming, for preinit and related stuff of init/bootup
17:41.31DocScrutinizer05could really need some proper sanitizing - too much cruft, too many WTF in there
17:42.24DocScrutinizer05**Why The Fuck** is fstab generated during each boot??
17:43.00DocScrutinizer05smells like evil legacy from maemo4, meant to allow booting from SD-card
17:49.30DocScrutinizer05also LOL at preinit: mtdblock4 ->  less "+/mtdblock4" /sbin/preinit
17:50.44DocScrutinizer05what a CRUFT
17:51.16DocScrutinizer05I bet I can't find any such mtdblock partition/device/whatever in whole mameo5
17:52.29DocScrutinizer05seems that's been a real thing in some obsolete maybe 2.4.x kernels
17:53.05DocScrutinizer05found some /media/mmc1p2/dev/mtdblock2, while that's the rootfs of a freerunner
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17:57.23keriohehe, set_default_root_params huh
17:58.05keriousing mtdblock is against the law or something, anyway
17:58.23DocScrutinizer05yoh
17:58.48DocScrutinizer05and *completely* useless on fremantle (btw mtd4 is initfs partition)
17:59.32DocScrutinizer05SIC!
18:00.53kerioanyway, i disabled the fstab generation
18:01.04kerioand put back swapon -a in rcS-late
18:01.14DocScrutinizer05I hope you simply commented the lines in that rcS
18:01.22kerioyes
18:01.32kerioand i put my swap partition in fstab
18:01.32DocScrutinizer05:-)
18:02.02keriohere goes nothing
18:02.03kerioreboots
18:02.19DocScrutinizer05this is such indigestible cruft
18:02.46kerioheh, uboot reports "Max CPU speed 600MHz"
18:03.04DocScrutinizer05hmm, so what?
18:03.24DocScrutinizer05that's probably correct
18:03.26keriothe max is around 900 :3
18:03.32kerioor possibly more, if you got lucky
18:03.54DocScrutinizer05not according to OMAP SoC properties register content, I guess
18:04.05kerioanyway, fstab wasn't regenerated, swapon -a worked correctly
18:04.13DocScrutinizer05(though the max cpu clock field in there is NDA)
18:04.29kerioNDA?
18:04.39DocScrutinizer05"no for public"
18:04.44keriooh
18:04.51DocScrutinizer05or similar offense
18:05.01DocScrutinizer05in OMAP TRM
18:05.08keriodon't you mean "under NDA" then?
18:05.46DocScrutinizer05it's marked "not publically available" in the table listing the meaning of those 128 bits
18:06.24DocScrutinizer05so if uBoot has some better idea about that, I'd be willing to accept it as a truth
18:08.00kerioDocScrutinizer05: why is fremantle such a mess? :(
18:09.13DocScrutinizer05because it's organically grown out of the ashes of diablo, which in turn grew on ashes of err... forgot
18:09.22keriochinook?
18:09.25DocScrutinizer05yeah
18:09.39kerioand the one before is the one that starts with b
18:09.48DocScrutinizer05borabora?
18:09.56keriojust bora
18:10.24DocScrutinizer05the first been "abomination" I bet ;-P
18:11.06keriowhy did they skip "e"? :(
18:11.12keriomy name starts with e!
18:11.14kerioit's a great letter!
18:12.45DocScrutinizer05there are some letters they ruled out for some sound reason
18:14.14DocScrutinizer05btw would somebody volunteer to update http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features/hildon-desktop from the obsolete state it's in?
18:17.44DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features even
18:18.01DocScrutinizer05>>This document is up to date as of 20.2010.36-maemo16.5 (note: to find your version see Settings, About Community SSU). <<
18:19.40keriohm, why is rodir in the vfat options?
18:23.21keriofreemangordon: btw, why do you suggest page-cluster 0?
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18:34.37DocScrutinizer05wtf *means* rodir?
18:34.50DocScrutinizer05can't find it in man mount
18:35.02keriowindows doesn't care about read-only for directories
18:35.11keriorodir tells linux to care
18:35.21DocScrutinizer05where from you got that?
18:35.31DocScrutinizer05info mount?
18:35.35keriohttp://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/filesystems/vfat.txt
18:35.48kerioit could be too recent, though
18:35.59keriobut i don't think that vfat options are changed that often
18:36.17DocScrutinizer05dafaq
18:36.46DocScrutinizer05oooh " December 2004 "
18:37.04DocScrutinizer05wtf happened to my manpages on my desktop linux?
18:37.49keriowtf, what's the repository for system-services?
18:38.24keriooh, upstart
18:38.49DocScrutinizer05anyway bbl
18:38.57keriotake care
18:39.05DocScrutinizer05NCIS ;-)
18:39.27DocScrutinizer05then dinner, then bed
18:41.18kerioDocScrutinizer05: we both know you'll be back
18:46.32DocScrutinizer05rrrrrright :-S
18:46.48DocScrutinizer05is it that obvious meanwhile?
18:56.05DocScrutinizer05maybe I should patch the ddWRT firmware in my router, to inevitably shut down my internet at certain daily schedule ?
18:57.51DocScrutinizer05or maybe insert a timer switch into main mains, so my whole apartment goes blackout for 10h a day?
18:58.09DocScrutinizer05suspects he'd IRC from N900 then
18:58.32kerioi usually have two or three ways to connect to the internet at any given time
18:59.01keriowith at the very least my phone connection working during a blackout
18:59.07kerio*cellphone
18:59.10DocScrutinizer05well, in theory I got those as well
18:59.16kerioDocScrutinizer05: YOU'RE STILL HERE
18:59.23DocScrutinizer05again ;-P
18:59.35DocScrutinizer05commercial break in TV
18:59.53keriololwut
19:00.07DocScrutinizer05NCIS suspended for ~4 minutes
19:00.17kerioyou actually watch live tv? :O
19:00.22DocScrutinizer05yep
19:00.26keriomadness
19:00.36DocScrutinizer05I basically never watch movies from internet
19:01.09DocScrutinizer05since if I did, I'd rather IRC   X-P
19:01.33DocScrutinizer05also I love the TV screen, and hate PC screen for movies
19:02.15kerioDocScrutinizer05: "rather"?
19:02.20kerioyou can do both at the same time!
19:02.27DocScrutinizer05nah!
19:02.37kerioif your resolution doesn't SUCK
19:02.46DocScrutinizer05when I watch a movie, I watch the movie
19:02.56keriois currently watching the DH Bucharest finals while ircing
19:03.08DocScrutinizer05that's no movie
19:03.21kerioi also watched plenty of tv series while IRCing :)
19:03.33DocScrutinizer05I hate elevator muzak, and I hate watching movies and still missing 50%
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