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| 06:47.53 | freemangordon | hmm, ffmpeg 1.0 is released |
| 06:48.17 | freemangordon | maemo5 is on 0.5+svn20090706 |
| 06:49.53 | luf | freemangordon: :) It's same for almost all packages ;) |
| 06:50.36 | freemangordon | by looking in the source code it has HUUUGE ARM/NEON optimizations |
| 06:50.47 | freemangordon | compared to what we have |
| 06:51.04 | luf | The question is the backward compatibility ... |
| 06:51.33 | freemangordon | unfortunately it has .thumb in .S files :D |
| 06:52.37 | freemangordon | hmm, configure has --enable-thumb switch |
| 06:52.45 | luf | freemangordon: I have problem to find where I downloaded bluez files from you. Fortunately I know myself and named the folder apropriately: freemongordon :D |
| 06:52.51 | freemangordon | so it might be backward-compatible after all |
| 06:53.05 | luf | The question is API/ABI or how to call it :) |
| 06:53.33 | freemangordon | well, that should not have changed |
| 06:53.43 | freemangordon | and we have gst-av anyway |
| 06:55.05 | luf | freemangordon: do yoy have diff for you build changes (for bluez-4.99)? It's hard for me to find what you changed ... |
| 06:55.15 | freemangordon | just a minut |
| 06:55.17 | freemangordon | e |
| 06:55.58 | freemangordon | http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/ |
| 06:56.33 | luf | I get this this is diff againist orig. I want to see just the changes you made ... |
| 06:56.49 | luf | or to see the way you get it. |
| 06:57.47 | freemangordon | extract both diff.gz files and do diff -urN dir1 dir2 |
| 07:02.09 | luf | Huh, it' too huge due to autoconf ... |
| 07:02.27 | luf | I see some change in rules and configure.ac. Another one file? |
| 07:03.23 | freemangordon | i think so |
| 07:04.32 | luf | Makefile.am too. Ok. I'll try to replay here :) |
| 07:05.23 | freemangordon | hmm, isn't there anything in denian/patches? |
| 07:05.28 | freemangordon | *debian |
| 07:05.56 | freemangordon | luf: there should be one more patch |
| 07:05.59 | freemangordon | iirc |
| 07:06.18 | luf | Ahhh ok. What about Makefile.tools? Is it autgenerated? |
| 07:06.25 | freemangordon | no |
| 07:06.35 | luf | So you changed it too ... |
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| 07:06.47 | freemangordon | luf do a diff :) |
| 07:07.08 | luf | I have a diff. But it contains tons of bullshit due to autoconf ... |
| 07:07.29 | freemangordon | use mc to open it |
| 07:07.35 | freemangordon | you'll see changed files |
| 07:07.43 | freemangordon | it is difffs :P |
| 07:08.20 | luf | Come on but I can't recognize what is changed due to re-run autoconf + automake. |
| 07:08.25 | luf | I'll investigate it. |
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| 07:14.26 | freemangordon | luf: well, gcc472 builds ffmpeg :D |
| 07:22.35 | luf | I see no problem in building ... |
| 07:22.53 | luf | The problem should be in cooperation with the rest ;) |
| 07:23.07 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 07:23.28 | luf | As bluez-4.99 - I have no problem with compiling ... |
| 07:23.38 | freemangordon | afaik the only one using ffmpeg is gst-av , though I might be wrong |
| 07:24.09 | luf | I have no idea/clue ;) |
| 07:24.26 | luf | Let's try to install it and you'll see ;) |
| 07:25.55 | freemangordon | thu fuck, it builds static libs by default :( |
| 07:26.29 | luf | :D |
| 07:27.18 | freemangordon | well, I am far from installing on the device, need debianize it first :D |
| 07:27.41 | freemangordon | though it seems it is only one library - libavcodec |
| 07:28.42 | freemangordon | lol, we have NEON vp8 codec |
| 07:29.24 | luf | :D |
| 07:36.57 | luf | freemangordon: BTW no new patch for bluez from you ;) |
| 07:40.11 | luf | Oops. The default automake is 1.8.5 but also automake-1.9 is installed :) |
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| 07:47.54 | luf | freemangordon: I can't still build bluez-4.99 with neon flag :( |
| 07:59.58 | freemangordon | luf: what's the error? |
| 08:01.12 | freemangordon | luf: "10:33 <luf> freemangordon: BTW no new patch for bluez from you ;)" ??? |
| 08:03.20 | luf | j(09:05:56 AM) freemangordon: luf: there should be one more patch |
| 08:03.49 | luf | Still the same error: |
| 08:03.50 | luf | sbc/sbc_primitives_neon.c: In function 'sbc_calc_scalefactors_j_neon': |
| 08:03.50 | luf | sbc/sbc_primitives_neon.c:309: error: can't find a register in class 'GENERAL_REGS' while reloading 'asm' |
| 08:03.50 | luf | sbc/sbc_primitives_neon.c:309: error: 'asm' operand has impossible constraints |
| 08:03.50 | luf | make[2]: *** [sbc/sbc_libsbc_la-sbc_primitives_neon.lo] Error 1 |
| 08:04.16 | freemangordon | well, gcc 4.2.1 |
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| 08:06.55 | freemangordon | luf: hmm, seems I mistaken bluez with pulseaudio |
| 08:07.07 | freemangordon | so, no new patch :D |
| 08:08.17 | luf | freemangordon: BTW do you know what did -fPIC ? I know google but you're usualy much faster then google :D |
| 08:09.36 | luf | Or how can I remove -fPIC from build env? |
| 08:09.54 | freemangordon | better ask google this time, it has something to do with dynamic relocations and symbol tables, but I am afraid to tell more, as I am not sure I won't lie to you |
| 08:10.02 | freemangordon | why should you remove that? |
| 08:10.33 | luf | I see some report about GENERAL_REGS and -fPIC so I want to try ... |
| 08:11.01 | freemangordon | well, check CFLAGS |
| 08:11.17 | freemangordon | check debian/rules |
| 08:11.23 | freemangordon | Makefile.am |
| 08:11.43 | freemangordon | though it might come from some pkg-config --cflags $package |
| 08:11.52 | freemangordon | and you can do nothing about it |
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| 08:15.32 | luf | it's in aclocal ... ugh. |
| 08:15.44 | freemangordon | that's generated |
| 08:16.35 | freemangordon | well, you can do nothing |
| 08:16.46 | luf | You're righ. |
| 08:16.56 | freemangordon | do not use -mfpu=neon :( |
| 08:17.13 | kerio | :( |
| 08:17.31 | freemangordon | luf: harass merlin1991 to upgrade toolchain |
| 08:24.40 | luf | So the -fPIC isn't issue (--without-pic :) ) |
| 08:37.44 | freemangordon | luf: I told you it is the compiler (or binutils) |
| 08:38.08 | luf | freemangordon: As usual you're right :) |
| 08:38.18 | freemangordon | unfortunately :( |
| 08:38.29 | luf | freemangordon: but keep me some fun :p |
| 08:38.43 | freemangordon | well, lets pester merlin1991 for new toolchain |
| 08:39.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
| 08:39.43 | luf | freemangordon: I'm not sure if it's good idea. |
| 08:39.51 | freemangordon | luf: why? |
| 08:40.08 | freemangordon | it brings newer libgcc and libstdc++ |
| 08:40.11 | freemangordon | nothing more |
| 08:40.17 | luf | There can appear another problems. |
| 08:40.18 | freemangordon | libc is still 2.5 |
| 08:40.44 | freemangordon | luf: it can be used only when needed |
| 08:41.03 | freemangordon | noone says we should recompile everything with it |
| 08:41.19 | luf | I'm not sure if the optimalization for new bluez (not yet confirmed as ok) is good reason. |
| 08:41.57 | freemangordon | well, we should start from some point after all |
| 08:42.28 | freemangordon | NEON optimized sbc codec seems a pretty good reason for me |
| 08:42.48 | luf | neon optimalization isn't so critical for my work. |
| 08:43.19 | freemangordon | and have in mind that we have bigeer chance to run into troubles because of older toolchain than because of a newer one |
| 08:43.47 | freemangordon | how do you think, was 4.99 ever built with gcc 4.2? |
| 08:43.59 | freemangordon | besides our efforts here |
| 08:44.11 | luf | Maybe not :) |
| 08:44.29 | luf | I give it 3% of possibility. |
| 08:44.55 | freemangordon | I give it 0% |
| 08:47.19 | luf | You should keep at least 0,0001% ... |
| 08:47.32 | freemangordon | ok, we have a deal :P |
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| 09:19.18 | luf | Ugh I used wrong patch (to disable hal) in bluez-4.99 :D That's the reason why battery level doesn't work. |
| 09:20.43 | luf | I'm unable to find in which commit (to see why) disappeared variable response_and_hold from audio/telephony-maemo5.c |
| 09:21.23 | freemangordon | hmm, you should be able to search in gitk |
| 09:21.45 | luf | I know I try to search but I'm unable to find :( |
| 09:21.55 | freemangordon | search by file |
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| 09:26.20 | luf | I find it ... But no comment why it removes. :D Never mind it's not supported by bluetoothd + N900. |
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| 10:09.10 | luf | I'll upload new bluez after lunch ... I'll test it in my carkit tomorrow or maybe during weekend. |
| 10:09.26 | freemangordon | upload? |
| 10:09.34 | freemangordon | .debs or source? |
| 10:10.00 | luf | both to the _you_know_the_server/~luf/.bluez :) |
| 10:10.10 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 10:10.12 | freemangordon | ok |
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| 10:30.19 | int_ua | freemangordon: have you heard about CSSU-Thumb3?) |
| 10:31.09 | int_ua | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1276189&postcount=513 |
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| 10:46.35 | Raimu | Could be T5.1+thumb3, but who knows :p |
| 10:52.53 | Lava_Croft | He is not an advanced user yet he attempts stuff like that |
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| 13:03.35 | luf | kerio: are you interested in testing new bluez? :) |
| 13:04.03 | kerio | not now, i'm at the uni |
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| 13:04.06 | kerio | maybe later |
| 13:04.16 | kerio | i don't even know how to test it, lol |
| 13:05.07 | luf | kerio: Do you use some BT handsfree? or you have BT completely disabled? |
| 13:05.21 | kerio | i have headphones |
| 13:05.38 | luf | kerio: It's still the same from you: not now I'm at uni :D |
| 13:05.42 | kerio | and a computer |
| 13:05.56 | kerio | but i *am* almost always at the uni! :( |
| 13:06.10 | kerio | like, every day 9-16 |
| 13:06.14 | kerio | but not tomorrow |
| 13:06.29 | luf | kerio: Someone marry with womans someone with unis ;) |
| 13:06.40 | kerio | i'm not even supposed to chat right now |
| 13:07.36 | luf | kerio: let's study ;) |
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| 13:21.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | neon SBC codec??? AFAIK (and kerio confirmed that) the SBC coded runs on BT chip |
| 13:23.38 | kerio | i didn't confirm shit |
| 13:24.50 | kerio | other people said that you get about the same cpu usage with normal headphones or bt headphones |
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| 14:20.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: np, I'll search for prper quote in chanlog |
| 14:21.23 | merlin1991 | ponders about which notebook to get for uni / linux dev stuff, so I need good battery runtime and a response system (no gaming) |
| 14:21.48 | merlin1991 | anybody got experience with the i5 / i7 on cpu gpu thingies? |
| 14:22.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | lenovo T500 |
| 14:22.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | not exactly a notebook |
| 14:23.23 | merlin1991 | *responsive system* |
| 14:23.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm? |
| 14:23.43 | merlin1991 | there are like 1000 variants of the T500 around :P |
| 14:24.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | yeah, I got me the better screen with dual-graca |
| 14:24.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | and 8GB RAM |
| 14:25.06 | DocScrutinizer51 | and some 500GB HDD |
| 14:25.22 | merlin1991 | dual graca? |
| 14:25.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | less than 1000eur in perfect conditioon |
| 14:26.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | dual display adapter |
| 14:26.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | the intel embedded and a dedicated |
| 14:28.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | you can switch between them in BIOS, or with most recent X11 maybe even on the fly |
| 14:28.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | or run both in parallel, FWIW |
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| 16:24.49 | marmistrz | freemangordon: ping |
| 16:25.10 | freemangordon | marmistrz: pong |
| 16:25.38 | marmistrz | hi, to which branch should I apply the changes with meego libs? |
| 16:25.47 | marmistrz | s/meego libs/meego qt libs/ |
| 16:26.03 | freemangordon | master? |
| 16:26.10 | marmistrz | ok |
| 16:26.22 | marmistrz | I was not sure whether master or testing-thumb |
| 16:38.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | let's see how this bomb bursts |
| 16:38.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 16:38.42 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 16:39.29 | marmistrz | merge request made. |
| 16:39.57 | freemangordon | did you try it on the device? |
| 16:40.06 | freemangordon | marmistrz: ^^^ |
| 16:40.42 | marmistrz | freemangordon: Nope. Qt builds that long, that I can't really build it. But I don't change the existing packages. So this shouldn't conflict |
| 16:41.30 | freemangordon | marmistrz: come on man, you requested a merge of a patch you don't now if it breaks the build? |
| 16:41.38 | freemangordon | *know |
| 16:42.00 | marmistrz | If there was obs, I'd try it out |
| 16:42.03 | freemangordon | Qt build for about 40 minutes on 4 cores |
| 16:42.11 | freemangordon | marmistrz: there is SB |
| 16:42.41 | marmistrz | AFAIK the libs are already built with the current built. They're just not installed. |
| 16:42.45 | marmistrz | This shouldn't break anything. |
| 16:43.11 | freemangordon | marmistrz: just build the damn thing |
| 16:44.58 | marmistrz | I have some problem with sb by the way. On some builds it just freezes on my computer. And Qt is such a build. Similar is meegotouch. Build for half an hour just to know that it froze, it's not a nice feeling |
| 16:49.45 | marmistrz | How can a new pkg that doesn't overwrite anything break somethign? |
| 16:50.19 | freemangordon | it can break package build |
| 16:57.43 | marmistrz | I'll be able to build it on no sooner than 10/13/12. And I don't know whether I'll manage to do it then. Maybe even later. I have full access to the school computers very rarely. And only there I have a testes sb install which doesn't freeze |
| 17:05.14 | freemangordon | marmistrz: well, lets wait for merlin1991's review then |
| 17:05.21 | marmistrz | ok |
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| 17:28.48 | kerio | freemangordon: moar thumb! |
| 17:31.51 | merlin1991 | hm I don't like the qt4 metapackage |
| 17:32.08 | freemangordon | kerio: breathe, pulseaudio, Berekley DB and maybe tracker are comming. But I want to give some time to the current version (a week or so) |
| 17:32.13 | merlin1991 | then I also need to crosscheck some versions |
| 17:33.19 | merlin1991 | and the italin files need to be adjusted aswell |
| 17:33.23 | kerio | can you also fix the thing where my media player has no cover art whatsoever? D: |
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| 17:34.23 | freemangordon | merlin1991: what was the problem with tracker and dissapearing .flac and .ogg? |
| 17:34.32 | merlin1991 | still not solved |
| 17:34.44 | freemangordon | does anyone have a clue? |
| 17:34.48 | merlin1991 | no |
| 17:34.52 | freemangordon | thu fuck |
| 17:34.54 | merlin1991 | we got plenty of educated guesses :D |
| 17:35.18 | kerio | i guess tracker is fucking awful and we should do something else |
| 17:35.34 | freemangordon | well, no tracker then until someone find what the problem is |
| 17:37.49 | kerio | well, you're not worsening it |
| 17:38.23 | freemangordon | well, I won't distribute something I know to have problems |
| 17:41.27 | kerio | so why are you distributing anything at all? :P |
| 17:41.50 | freemangordon | because there are no problems i am aware of :P |
| 17:50.17 | kerio | don't be silly, everything's got problems |
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| 18:15.35 | kerio | merlin1991: hehe, i just realized that there are no more errors related to that old binutils with the fscked Provides line in your extras-devel |
| 18:15.42 | kerio | but now there's the nokia GPG keys error |
| 18:22.28 | merlin1991 | yeah though that's not related to me |
| 18:22.36 | merlin1991 | that's thanks to nokia gpg key reaching eol |
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| 18:29.03 | kerio | i know |
| 18:29.11 | kerio | rehost and resign all the nokia packages plskthx |
| 18:31.07 | merlin1991 | no can do, too much (c) nokia on those repos |
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| 19:01.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | curses ivgalvez for tricking poor confused seile Doc into touching this council thing |
| 19:02.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | senile* |
| 19:03.12 | merlin1991 | hrhrhrhrhrrhrhrhrhrhrhr |
| 19:03.13 | merlin1991 | ...... |
| 19:03.35 | merlin1991 | kerio: was it you who's running debian testing? |
| 19:03.42 | kerio | not me |
| 19:03.53 | kerio | actually does nothing beyond being annoying on IRC |
| 19:04.02 | merlin1991 | hm who was it then |
| 19:04.07 | merlin1991 | backlog search ftw |
| 19:05.23 | merlin1991 | tadzik was it |
| 19:06.01 | tadzik | yeah, that'd be me |
| 19:06.22 | merlin1991 | what's the preferred way to install debian-testing? :D |
| 19:06.47 | int_ua | pays attention |
| 19:06.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | maybe I actually managed to nuke council all together now, and know what? I don't care |
| 19:06.51 | tadzik | some installation CD I guess |
| 19:07.13 | tadzik | finding one on debian.org is a PITA, in my experience |
| 19:07.32 | int_ua | what about debootstrap? |
| 19:07.33 | tadzik | every time one of my friends tries this they end up downloading debian stable and having to upgrade it then |
| 19:07.39 | tadzik | (which is pretty painless, fortunately) |
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| 20:58.47 | int_ua | arcean: ping |
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| 21:01.32 | arcean | int_ua, pong |
| 21:02.16 | int_ua | arcean: I'm trying to run Camdrive on N900... Do you want to discuss this? |
| 21:03.14 | arcean | so it's not even starting? |
| 21:03.51 | int_ua | I've just had an idea: maybe it's thumb2-compiled? |
| 21:04.05 | arcean | what? camdrive? no :) |
| 21:04.07 | int_ua | but then others won't start also |
| 21:04.24 | int_ua | so you've seen gdb output? |
| 21:04.55 | arcean | camdrive requires harmattan version of the libthumbnailer |
| 21:05.12 | arcean | and camera resolutions are hardcoded |
| 21:05.36 | int_ua | isn't it the same on gitorious? |
| 21:05.38 | int_ua | oh |
| 21:05.46 | int_ua | that could explain |
| 21:06.01 | int_ua | what's the resolution? |
| 21:06.12 | int_ua | gdb: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1276549&postcount=547 |
| 21:06.19 | arcean | but IIRC there was a bug in fremantle's qt-mobility |
| 21:06.27 | arcean | regarding camera stuff |
| 21:08.44 | arcean | one thing is certain - it would be easier to port camdrive that to launch it through meecolay :) |
| 21:08.57 | arcean | s/that/than |
| 21:09.48 | int_ua | ok, maybe I'll try it later, thanks :) |
| 21:10.32 | arcean | no problem :) |
| 21:11.58 | arcean | what's interesting the first versions have been tested on the N900/Maemo :D |
| 21:20.21 | int_ua | :) |
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