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06:39.42 | chem|st | kerio: *shut the fsck up pong* |
06:40.14 | chem|st | kerio: wasn't reading the log... was there something important? |
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08:46.12 | freemangordon | luf: bluez 4.99 has NEON optimized sbc codec, but one should enable NEON support by hand (-mfpu=neon) |
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09:25.05 | luf | freemangordon: so you suggest to enable it. Ok. I'll try. Does it work for you well? |
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09:25.30 | freemangordon | unfortunately I am unable to build the package :( |
09:25.42 | luf | Why? What's the problem? |
09:26.50 | freemangordon | something with automake |
09:27.07 | luf | :( |
09:27.34 | freemangordon | if I do autoreconf it does not even do proper configure |
09:28.13 | freemangordon | and without that is fails on dh_install step, as some test executables are not built |
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09:28.48 | luf | strange. I'm able to build. |
09:29.06 | freemangordon | you have AM 2.63 |
09:29.17 | freemangordon | where did you get that from? |
09:29.25 | freemangordon | as here is 2.61 |
09:30.13 | luf | automake1.9 1.9.5-1osso3 |
09:30.13 | luf | autoconf 2.61-4maemo1+0m5 |
09:30.41 | freemangordon | ok, but your makefile is generated by 2.63 |
09:31.04 | freemangordon | can you do autoreconf --force -v --install? |
09:31.13 | freemangordon | to check if it still builds after that |
09:31.24 | luf | Why I may want to reconfigure? |
09:31.52 | freemangordon | different toolchain? |
09:32.29 | freemangordon | using makefiles generated for a diferent toolchain is not a good idea |
09:33.47 | freemangordon | hmm, after reconfiguring even in default SB target leads to unbuildable tree |
09:34.20 | luf | Hmmm. I didn't reconfigure. |
09:34.34 | freemangordon | but that should work |
09:35.36 | luf | configure.ac:4: option `color-tests' not recognized |
09:35.42 | freemangordon | yes |
09:35.53 | freemangordon | but it is not important |
09:36.03 | freemangordon | http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/List-of-Automake-options.html#List-of-Automake-options |
09:38.25 | freemangordon | luf: seems you take configure.ac from a newer AM. I don't think it will work :( |
09:39.27 | freemangordon | though you can take the stock configure.ac and try to tweak it for 4.99 |
09:39.44 | luf | I took package from debian ;) As usual |
09:39.57 | freemangordon | yeah, I see :) |
09:40.18 | freemangordon | but we are too "old" for that. Packaging part I mean |
09:41.33 | luf | Hmmm I did the same with curl and obex ... ugh. another new task :( |
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09:45.32 | freemangordon | luf: and this is what i get without autoreconf: |
09:45.34 | freemangordon | install: cannot stat `test/gaptest': No such file or directory |
09:45.57 | freemangordon | doing dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b |
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10:03.29 | luf | strange it should be build when you have --enable-test in debian/rules (DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS) |
10:03.53 | freemangordon | I know |
10:44.18 | luf | freemangordon: do you have the place where to add -mfpu=neon ? |
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10:55.57 | luf | freemangordon: I get it but it can't compile with -mfpu=neon in CFLAGS |
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11:54.51 | freemangordon | luf: (I got "luf TeÄ tu zrovna nejsem" in private chat, whatever it means :D ) it compiles ok with gcc 4.7.2 |
11:58.06 | luf | freemangordon: It means that I'm not at computer (as you recognized) :D |
12:02.02 | kerio | chem|st: deepy had a bootloop after installing cssu-s, but it could've been a hw problem |
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12:06.08 | freemangordon | luf: hmm, maybe something with SB, i'll investigate it |
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12:46.16 | luf | freemangordon: what may I report you to help with finding the problem? |
12:47.24 | freemangordon | luf: NFC, I'll try to fix it on my own by now |
12:48.20 | luf | freemangordon: ok. |
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12:49.54 | luf | I added it in debian/rules: CFLAGS := $(CFLAGS) -mfpu=neon |
12:50.11 | freemangordon | yeah, that is how it is supposed to be |
12:51.30 | kerio | i liek optimizations :D |
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16:32.10 | chem|st | kerio: my device bootlooped after installing backupmenu well it tried to boot maemo and or backupmenu for like 7 times then I removed the bat and tried again... worked... some devices hung up for some reason |
16:32.20 | kerio | hm |
16:32.43 | chem|st | "devices" in some hardware in my n900 devices |
16:33.14 | chem|st | so some hardware error during boot I'd guess |
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16:52.24 | kerio | freemangordon: needs moar optimization |
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21:06.10 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1 || READ!!: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1264963#post1264963 |
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21:06.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: wb |
21:06.17 | infobot | It's great to be back! |
21:06.27 | freemangordon | merlin1991: do me a favor and PURGE FAM FROM THE REPOS |
21:06.30 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
21:06.47 | tadzik | (: |
21:06.51 | tadzik | is it that bad? |
21:07.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe |
21:07.05 | freemangordon | no, but you should not use it for system upgrades |
21:07.15 | tadzik | oh, I'm not |
21:07.22 | tadzik | I waited patiently for HAM |
21:07.26 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
21:07.29 | freemangordon | :) |
21:07.43 | freemangordon | HAM and FAM have different catalogs though |
21:08.06 | freemangordon | tadzik: do you find any difference? |
21:08.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly cpu load applet and simple brightness are the 2 most essential things on my device |
21:08.36 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: maybe i will give it a try... |
21:08.49 | freemangordon | after you install -thumb on your primary device :P |
21:09.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | might ahppen faster than you think |
21:09.14 | freemangordon | I know |
21:09.35 | freemangordon | that was one of those semi-jokes ;) |
21:09.55 | tadzik | freemangordon: I don't see any, honestly |
21:10.04 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: heh, really? |
21:10.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all I'm not THAT busted when my phone refuses to work, and I at least got a clue what to scrutinize |
21:10.05 | Flyser | will -thumb be merged into -testing eventually? |
21:10.08 | kerio | have we converted you? :D |
21:10.10 | tadzik | maybe windows switching is a bit faster |
21:10.18 | freemangordon | tadzik: start microb |
21:10.26 | tadzik | I tried it already |
21:10.31 | kerio | woowoowoowoowoo |
21:10.33 | freemangordon | and open FB if you have an account |
21:10.34 | tadzik | but I use Opera usually |
21:10.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | Flyser: unlikely, though nothing is impossible |
21:10.39 | tadzik | nah, I don't use FB |
21:10.44 | tadzik | may try github though :) |
21:10.48 | freemangordon | ok |
21:11.11 | Flyser | why is it unlikely? introduces too many bugs? |
21:11.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | introduces too many packages to test |
21:12.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually I'm not anticipating any bugs |
21:12.14 | tadzik | yeah, github runs pretty smoothly on microb |
21:12.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's (this time actually) a question of ideology |
21:12.33 | freemangordon | tadzik: I bet you'll revert to microb :P |
21:12.36 | tadzik | and it doesn't seem to be swapping at all |
21:12.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather policy |
21:13.34 | tadzik | freemangordon: well, I appreciate the reduced bandwidth in Opera, I usually go cheap when buying internet plans for my phone |
21:13.38 | tadzik | plus company loyalty etc ;) |
21:13.43 | freemangordon | aaah, ok |
21:14.02 | freemangordon | tadzik: you work for opera? |
21:14.05 | tadzik | aye |
21:14.26 | freemangordon | hmm, tadzik is a singer :D |
21:14.29 | tadzik | hehe |
21:14.35 | tadzik | actually I'm after music school ;) |
21:14.43 | tadzik | but never studies singing itself |
21:17.03 | tadzik | wow, 3 tabs open and it's still all in RAM |
21:17.10 | tadzik | doesn't seem to be chocking much |
21:18.34 | tadzik | okay, I'm convinced it's pure magic |
21:18.38 | tadzik | freemangordon++, good job :) |
21:18.51 | freemangordon | hehe |
21:21.54 | tadzik | hm, are conversations also running on microb-engine? |
21:22.02 | freemangordon | tadzik: yes |
21:22.19 | tadzik | ha, that's a huge win |
21:22.29 | freemangordon | tadzik: BTW I may try to build opera-thumb |
21:22.35 | freemangordon | tadzik: yes |
21:22.45 | tadzik | is it buildable? I mean, I don't think the source is available |
21:22.59 | freemangordon | hmm, isn't it OSS? |
21:23.05 | tadzik | I'm quite sure it's not |
21:23.10 | freemangordon | :( |
21:23.24 | freemangordon | well, I can give you instructions how to build it then :P |
21:23.42 | tadzik | hm, I could maybe give it a try |
21:24.07 | freemangordon | yeah, gcc 4.7.2 and thumb2 makes all the difference |
21:24.19 | tadzik | I'll ask cow-orkers tomorrow |
21:24.20 | freemangordon | ok |
21:24.49 | freemangordon | you see how microb is affected, I suspect opera will benefit at least that much |
21:25.57 | freemangordon | tadzik: BTW how big is opera? the executable/libs. |
21:26.37 | tadzik | I don't know, I'm not working on the browser itself |
21:26.45 | peetah | freemangordon: sorry for juming in the conversation, but did zeq and yourself succeeded in building firefox for thumb2 ? |
21:26.49 | freemangordon | I mean installed on n900 |
21:26.52 | tadzik | ah |
21:26.55 | tadzik | lemee see |
21:26.58 | freemangordon | peetah: yes |
21:27.24 | peetah | is it available in CSSU thumb ? |
21:27.37 | freemangordon | http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-thumb/pool/free/f/fennec/ |
21:28.02 | freemangordon | peetah: though it is still far from microb in terms of performance |
21:28.33 | tadzik | freemangordon: it's about 11 MB |
21:28.58 | peetah | I guess so, but I'm ok with FF 14 on CSSU-T so I guess I will appreciate the improvements brought by thumb2 |
21:29.04 | freemangordon | tadzik: thumb2 compiled should be about 7.5 - 8 |
21:29.16 | tadzik | nice |
21:29.58 | freemangordon | peetah: don't know. give it a try (if you have -thumb installed) and report how it is compared to FF14 |
21:30.33 | freemangordon | goes for sleep |
21:30.36 | peetah | the only thing that hold me back right now is the support for uboot |
21:30.50 | freemangordon | peetah: what do you mean |
21:31.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | conversations use browser as rendering frontend, but I guess what makes convo suck is something completely different |
21:31.32 | peetah | from what i read, installing thumb2 will reflash the thumb kernel, and I'll have to install u-boot again and find a uboot friendly thumb2 kernel |
21:31.46 | freemangordon | peetah: you can choose between KP and kernel-cssu, both provide boot images |
21:32.07 | tadzik | well, uboot + kernel-power is not trivial |
21:32.10 | freemangordon | if you have KP>51 no kernel will be flashed |
21:32.14 | tadzik | in my experience, at least |
21:32.40 | freemangordon | tadzik: why? you just need to install bootimg and run uboot-update script |
21:32.51 | freemangordon | anyway, I am afk |
21:32.54 | freemangordon | night |
21:32.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | 'just' ;-P |
21:33.24 | tadzik | It "just" didn't work last time I tried :P |
21:33.26 | tadzik | good knight freemangordon |
21:34.28 | peetah | I have KP51r1 |
21:36.00 | peetah | how is KP>51 changing the way kernel-cssu is installed ? |
21:36.40 | Flyser | peetah: kernel-cssu will not be installed, if kp51r1 is installed |
21:37.02 | peetah | any reason for that ? |
21:37.23 | Flyser | kp51r1 contains all the necessary thumb patches |
21:38.11 | peetah | woohooooo, thumb2 migration it is then ! |
21:39.14 | tadzik | hehe |
21:39.18 | tadzik | come, we have cookies |
21:39.28 | Flyser | I am kinda tempted too. the microb and firefox improvements sound very good |
21:39.40 | kerio | it's not firefox though, it's fennec :) |
21:39.46 | kerio | freemangordon: update fennec plskthx |
21:40.09 | Flyser | kerio: whats the difference? |
21:40.35 | kerio | Flyser: the icon is much less pretty |
21:40.45 | Flyser | ... yeah ... |
21:46.18 | Flyser | freemangordon started to optimize the SmartReflex voltage levels of kernel-power. Last time I checked he finished 800 or 850MHz, does anyone happen to know how far he got? |
21:50.17 | Flyser | (last time I checked was a few months back, so I am *really* outdated on this one) |
22:01.43 | kerio | gaaaah, compiling gcc is awful |
22:06.15 | Skry | why are you doing that? :o |
22:08.23 | kerio | to get the latest and greatest |
22:11.09 | Skry | then you should be compiling llvm/clang :) |
22:11.32 | Skry | just kidding |
22:12.05 | kerio | Skry: heathen |
22:12.48 | kerio | hehe, i'm getting so many warnings here |
22:13.00 | kerio | somehow i doubt this will work |
22:13.15 | kerio | goddammit i hate not having a more updated gcc |
22:13.43 | Skry | what version are you compiling? |
22:14.00 | kerio | nah, the problems are with mame |
22:14.05 | kerio | i'm trying to compile it with a better compiler |
22:14.13 | kerio | but gcc 4.7 is probably too advanced for it |
22:15.13 | kerio | oh goddammit, there's no gcc46 in the brew repository, only gcc45 |
22:15.52 | Skry | I assume you're building mame for maemo |
22:15.57 | kerio | nope |
22:15.58 | kerio | os x |
22:16.06 | kerio | mame on the n900 will never work properly, it's useless |
22:16.22 | kerio | mame is *heavily* cpu-based |
22:18.29 | Skry | so you're compiling gcc 4.7 for osx to compile mame with up-to-date compiler.. have you tried googling for "gcc 4.7 for os x" ? :) |
22:24.23 | peetah | before I jump, is there any incompatibilities between backupmenu and thumb2 ? |
22:37.07 | peetah | too late... |
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23:15.09 | peetah | freemangordon: after cssu thumb installation, I installed firefox 17.0a1 with a fresh ~/.mozilla/fennec, but it segfaulted after "content loaded" :( |
23:18.28 | dafox | kerio: why do you say mame will not work on n900? Wouldn't it depend on what gamesystem you're trying to emulate? |
23:25.45 | kerio | dafox: i'll rephrase: mame won't work with good games without slowdowns/frameskipping on the n900 |
23:26.33 | dafox | I think you'll need to rephrase that a bit more, there are lots of good old games ;) |
23:27.15 | dafox | I used to have emame on my old phone (p800), which worked wonderfully for lots of old classics |
23:30.59 | Skry | imo n900 screen is too small to actually enjoy gaming |
23:31.42 | Skry | ..and after saying that, I realized I actually own nokia n-gage. |
23:32.14 | dafox | Skry: thats why we have tv-out :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_rEPSh3Q0&hd=1 |
23:40.06 | Skry | sure, still would prefer doing that on a pc with 42" hd screen and decent gamepad though :) |
23:44.27 | Skry | pff, emulating n900 with qemu. too slow. |
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