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| 00:06.36 | luf | pinochio: I want to go sleep. here is 2:00 am :) |
| 00:07.59 | pinochio | ~ $ ls /var/lib/bluetooth/ A8:7B:39:DC:4F:9E maemo-callerid-none ~ $ cat /var/lib/bluetooth/AB:7B:39:DC:4F:9E/name cat: can't open '/var/lib/bluetooth/AB:7B:39:DC:4F:9E/name': No such file or directory ~ $ ccat /var/lib/bluetooth/A8:7B:39:DC:4F:9E/names -sh: ccat: not found ~ $ |
| 00:09.39 | pinochio | tomorrow |
| 00:12.45 | luf | pinochio: it seems like you didn't pair N900 with the GO 950. Bye tmorrow. |
| 00:12.54 | pinochio | Yes winscp help mi 1C:4B:D6:0C:CF:C7 xxxx-PC 00:21:3E:A4:DE:3F TomTom GO |
| 00:20.47 | pinochio | There is, WinSCP help me, the path was wrong. /var/lib/bluetooth/A8:7B:39:DC:4F:9E Result 1C:4B:D6:0C:CF:C7 xxxx-PC 00:21:3E:A4:DE:3F TomTom GO |
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| 01:13.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ls -l /var/lib/bluetooth/*/names |
| 01:13.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 649 2012-06-11 17:58 /var/lib/bluetooth/EC:9B:5B:01:E9:F2/names |
| 01:15.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# cat /var/lib/bluetooth/*/names|grep Logi |
| 01:15.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | 00:1F:20:15:DA:DF Logitech MX Revolution Mouse |
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| 08:34.21 | chem|st | o/ |
| 08:34.39 | merlin1991 | o/ |
| 08:35.50 | chem|st | vacation over :/ |
| 08:37.49 | kerio | good, so you can do a cssu-S release! :D |
| 08:40.11 | chem|st | kerio: probably not this week but next (more quarantine doesn't hurt though) |
| 09:01.47 | kerio | merlin1991: are you sure you're only grabbing the latest version of packages? |
| 09:01.55 | kerio | wtf, how many packages only have one version? :s |
| 09:02.54 | merlin1991 | kerio: reprepro can only handle 1 version per package, so I'm 100% sure I'm grabbing only the latest versions |
| 09:03.11 | kerio | i see |
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| 09:38.28 | freemangordon | merlin1991: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1267836&postcount=704 |
| 09:38.43 | freemangordon | is it Pali to add this? |
| 09:45.02 | luf | freemangordon: may I be in hurry with fixing dependencies due to thumb test release? Or it's too late also? |
| 09:45.58 | freemangordon | luf: no hurry, it is the same from -thumb as with -testing (if I got your question right) |
| 09:46.14 | freemangordon | But I ca easily add the missing dependency to -mp |
| 09:46.31 | freemangordon | I don;t even need you to change anything |
| 09:46.59 | freemangordon | luf: bwt I installe it manually, apt-get said 86k will be used, any clue? |
| 09:47.10 | freemangordon | *89k |
| 09:51.17 | merlin1991 | well it stores all the stuff in /var/lib/dpkg aswell |
| 09:52.43 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: the 2 changes that upstart/system services have: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/upstart/commit/b454925401738723131e7d0905c2d401b3542c18 http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/upstart/commit/53a2c3183b0ce0013eb8ddeeedf02061b322c77d |
| 09:52.44 | freemangordon | hmm, yes, correct |
| 09:53.17 | merlin1991 | I'm not really sure how this could make the device unbootable |
| 09:54.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991: it overwrites /etc/defaut/mount-opts |
| 09:54.41 | luf | freemangordon: /usr/share/doc ? |
| 09:55.04 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: well because that entry in /etc... is part of the pkg |
| 09:55.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: anyway I think we'll need Pali for that |
| 09:55.32 | merlin1991 | if a user wants to adjust a package controled file he'll have to add a dpkg diversion on it so the new package does not touch "his" file |
| 09:56.09 | freemangordon | we'll need console driver enabled on boot |
| 09:56.20 | freemangordon | to see what breaks |
| 09:57.04 | freemangordon | any easy way to have it inserted (without manually modifying starup scripts)? |
| 09:57.17 | merlin1991 | though techincally dpkg / apt shuld not overwrite files in /etc if the old one got changed |
| 09:57.26 | freemangordon | it asks |
| 09:58.54 | kerio | it asks if you don't use HAM |
| 09:59.04 | kerio | if you do, it asks and HAM answers "yep" |
| 09:59.17 | merlin1991 | kerio: oddly it does not do that for transistions.ini |
| 09:59.18 | freemangordon | kerio: read the thread, the guy is using apt-get |
| 10:00.31 | kerio | merlin1991: it's not about files in /etc, it's about config files vs files in the package |
| 10:00.58 | merlin1991 | yep but files in /etc are *config* files accrodign to apt |
| 10:01.01 | merlin1991 | or dpkg |
| 10:01.18 | kerio | are you sure it's blindly that? :o |
| 10:01.19 | merlin1991 | just like transistions.ini is a config file because the packaging explecitely states so |
| 10:01.26 | kerio | i see |
| 10:09.30 | freemangordon | well, lets hope the guy manages to enable fb console driver |
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| 11:08.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: wb |
| 11:09.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | @all: moo |
| 11:09.27 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: o/ |
| 11:11.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: like kerio I thought a cssu-s release was pending, but merlin1991 pointed me to S-changelog which shows a release for beginning of this month, so I wonder if we actually _have_ anything for a new release |
| 11:12.08 | kerio | ยต, Doc |
| 11:12.40 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: yes we do |
| 11:13.15 | chem|st | we recognized a versioning issue or better said a FAIL in which source was pulled and committed |
| 11:15.01 | chem|st | (curl) |
| 11:18.21 | kerio | merlin1991: i can has other light repos |
| 11:19.16 | merlin1991 | nah :D |
| 11:19.27 | merlin1991 | anyway which one would even make sense? |
| 11:20.04 | kerio | community-testing |
| 11:20.13 | kerio | just because |
| 11:20.25 | merlin1991 | would not work |
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| 11:22.57 | kerio | merlin1991: http://i.imgur.com/3LuS2.png |
| 11:26.44 | merlin1991 | well compare it to the mp the mp is even worse :D |
| 11:26.55 | merlin1991 | see http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/m/mp-fremantle-community-pr/ xD |
| 11:28.31 | kerio | D: |
| 11:28.33 | kerio | madness |
| 11:29.22 | chem|st | merlin1991: you still cannot delete stuff? |
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| 11:30.42 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 12:01.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-cache show mp-fremantle-community-pr ;-P |
| 12:01.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | now _that's_ madness |
| 12:02.15 | merlin1991 | it's what you get here: http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/m/mp-fremantle-community-pr/ ;) |
| 12:02.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# apt-cache show mp-fremantle-community-pr|wc -l |
| 12:02.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3040 |
| 12:02.49 | merlin1991 | I'd have to handcraft another tiny packge to allow a cssu-testing-light |
| 12:03.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-cache show mp-fremantle-community-pr|grep Version: |
| 12:04.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | feels like "polizeiliches fuehrungzeugnis" - nothing will ever be forgotten |
| 12:04.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 12:05.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | wc -c 252419 |
| 12:05.44 | merlin1991 | well at least here you can go there and ask them to remove entires that are smallish issues after like a year |
| 12:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | a few more revisions and the pkg description file is larger than the fiasco image ;-P |
| 12:06.37 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 12:07.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | figues dependency db and thinks "poor apt" |
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| 15:35.55 | kerio | merlin1991: dude, i don't know why but i keep redownloading the Packages file |
| 15:36.22 | kerio | are you running reprepro every 10 minutes? |
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| 15:50.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's with worldclock btw? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81582&page=30 |
| 15:50.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | supposed to become optional-alternative afaik |
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| 16:05.17 | kerio | hey DocScrutinizer05 |
| 16:05.18 | kerio | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1261535&postcount=289 |
| 16:05.20 | kerio | have you read this? |
| 16:10.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope |
| 16:10.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | fair enough |
| 16:10.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | (minus e*_'s usual biased bitching) |
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| 16:15.17 | kerio | Feel free to PM me or ping Estel_ @ #mer. |
| 16:15.18 | kerio | hahaha |
| 16:17.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's amazing how he continues his crusade against CSSU and the way of consens building that he obviously isn't used to or able to participate in a sensible manner. And even more so, since none of the allies he tries to make is really supporting his POV |
| 16:19.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | most funny detail is his constant bitching about mainainer role which in a FOSS project really isn't what he seems to think it is. He's a bit CSSR hierarchy socialized in that regard it seems |
| 16:20.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | FOSS projects usually have no "boss" or even hierarchy in the way he supposes |
| 16:22.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's exactly same approach he took with council, with IRC maintenance, with just everything: "who's the boss here, i wanna talk to your boss!" |
| 16:22.04 | kerio | CSSR? |
| 16:22.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | USSR |
| 16:22.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | "the eastern block" |
| 16:22.35 | kerio | yeah, yeah |
| 16:22.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | CCCP |
| 16:22.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 16:22.59 | kerio | i'm young, but i do know a bit of history |
| 16:23.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | once he thought he became "boss of council" he went apeshit |
| 16:24.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | and if *he* is not boss, there MUST be somebody else - and he's going to talk to that guy and let him know |
| 16:25.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | "WUT? IRC *has no boss*??? IMPOSSIBLE" |
| 16:26.05 | kerio | of course IRC has a boss |
| 16:26.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | "if there's no boss on that channel, we need to change that!!" |
| 16:26.28 | kerio | i doubt the ops in #staff care much about maemo, though |
| 16:26.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 16:26.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I told him several times |
| 16:27.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | he doesn't get it |
| 16:27.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, have to run |
| 16:27.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | and shouldn't talk about him at all |
| 16:27.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ |
| 16:28.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<kerio> Feel free to PM me or ping Estel_ @ #mer.)) poor stskeeps |
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| 16:38.20 | kerio | merlin1991: does your webserver put out caching info for static files? |
| 16:39.28 | merlin1991 | kerio: hm nfc actually |
| 16:39.40 | merlin1991 | but the file was last generated 5 am today |
| 16:39.59 | kerio | i wonder if it's gzip that borks the dates |
| 16:40.32 | kerio | hmm, it could actually be |
| 16:41.24 | kerio | no, wait, it makes no sense |
| 16:41.27 | kerio | it would make the file newer, not older |
| 16:42.23 | merlin1991 | hm odd I just tried with apt-get and indeed it keeps redownloading |
| 16:42.41 | merlin1991 | digs into lighttpd server config |
| 16:50.10 | merlin1991 | uh oh, lighttpd neither sends last-modified nor expire |
| 16:50.55 | kerio | is the content-type set? |
| 16:51.06 | merlin1991 | application/octet-stream :/ |
| 16:51.12 | kerio | ok, it's not :) |
| 16:51.29 | kerio | add some mime types |
| 16:52.08 | kerio | Packages -> text/plain, maybe |
| 16:52.26 | kerio | or, easier, add application/octet-stream as the default mime type |
| 16:56.53 | merlin1991 | hm /etc/mime.types only maps extensions |
| 16:57.57 | kerio | do you have binary files with no extension? |
| 16:58.09 | merlin1991 | possibly |
| 16:58.13 | kerio | well tough shit |
| 16:58.27 | kerio | then your only option is to specify the mime type for every single Packages file |
| 16:58.38 | merlin1991 | and how would I go about that? |
| 16:58.53 | kerio | i can't remember, it's been a while since i configured lighttpd |
| 16:59.03 | kerio | eventually i just set the default mime type to text/plain |
| 17:01.00 | kerio | merlin1991: mind you, setting the default mime type to application/octet-stream would probably also work |
| 17:04.48 | merlin1991 | no lighttpd has a "feature" not to send the last modified for octet-stream |
| 17:11.02 | kerio | are you sure it's that and not for unset mime types? |
| 17:20.28 | merlin1991 | I swapped the default mime-type to text/plain |
| 17:21.23 | merlin1991 | hopes he doesn't have any binary files without extension in the webserver |
| 17:22.21 | kerio | it's a repository, it shouldn't be touched by human hands |
| 17:22.49 | merlin1991 | kerio: that very same lighttpd runs several vhosts |
| 17:23.02 | kerio | well, sucks for them |
| 17:23.18 | merlin1991 | but all of them are MINE :/ |
| 17:23.31 | kerio | why the hell would you have a binary file without an extension? |
| 17:23.39 | merlin1991 | nfc |
| 17:24.07 | kerio | maybe binaries? |
| 17:25.04 | merlin1991 | weell |
| 17:25.05 | merlin1991 | fuck this |
| 17:25.10 | kerio | :c |
| 17:25.11 | merlin1991 | tar.gz is now text/plain |
| 17:25.13 | merlin1991 | WTF |
| 17:25.15 | kerio | ahahahaha |
| 17:26.16 | kerio | on the plus side, apt-get didn't download new stuff |
| 17:26.23 | merlin1991 | dafuq not even .gz is defined in /etc/mime.types |
| 17:27.24 | merlin1991 | http://paste.debian.net/190314/ |
| 17:27.35 | merlin1991 | headdesks |
| 17:33.21 | merlin1991 | added some compression mime-types to the lighttpd config |
| 17:33.24 | merlin1991 | hopefully enough |
| 17:34.02 | merlin1991 | interestingly though .7z is part of /etc/mime.types |
| 17:35.35 | kerio | .7z isn't a straight compression |
| 17:36.28 | merlin1991 | yeah true .7z is just a container |
| 17:42.11 | merlin1991 | but ie .tgz is part of the list aswell |
| 17:43.14 | kerio | that argument is stupid, but .tgz is also not just a straight compression |
| 17:45.05 | merlin1991 | isn't .tgz used in place of .tar.gz? |
| 17:50.27 | kerio | yep |
| 17:50.37 | kerio | but the extension of foo.tar.gz is just .gz |
| 17:54.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 17:55.38 | kerio | i dunno lol |
| 17:57.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | .lol |
| 17:58.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | mime type: conversation/funny |
| 17:59.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | frowns at his T500 not blasting away with max fan speed |
| 18:10.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's been one of the worst ideas ever to adopt that silly braindead "extensions" concept from dos/windows world in *nix |
| 18:12.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | laughs at >>FILE(1) BSD General Commands Manual << |
| 18:13.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | halebop:~ # file --version |
| 18:13.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | file-5.08 |
| 18:13.19 | kerio | i've got file-5.03 |
| 18:13.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems like it's some years already |
| 18:14.13 | kerio | You can obtain the original author's latest version by anonymous FTP on ftp.astron.com in the directory /pub/file/file-X.YZ.tar.gz |
| 18:14.14 | kerio | lol |
| 18:15.28 | kerio | This manual page, and particularly this section, is too long. << listed under BUGS |
| 18:15.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | file-4.26 2008-08-30 |
| 18:16.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | me does some extrapolations |
| 18:16.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | concludes file-1.0 must have appeared ~1970 |
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| 19:32.46 | kerio | please fix maemo-launcher so that it doesn't fuck up the old maemo-launcher when it launches |
| 19:32.51 | kerio | yo dawg |
| 19:35.57 | freemangordon | kerio: what are the new and the old maemo-launchers? |
| 19:46.28 | kerio | like, if you launch maemo-launcher |
| 20:01.33 | freemangordon | kerio: you are supposed to launch maemo-invoker, not maemo-launcher |
| 20:02.03 | kerio | i know, but mistakenly launching maemo-launcher makes half of your applications unusable |
| 20:02.06 | kerio | unless you keep it running |
| 20:07.18 | freemangordon | and you consider that a valid bug? lets fix then mistakenly launching rm -rf / wipes your rootfs. come on |
| 20:08.22 | kerio | freemangordon: two maemo-launcher instances being able to coexist without complaining is a bug |
| 20:09.01 | freemangordon | kerio: you are not supposed to start maemo-launcher by hand |
| 20:09.32 | kerio | freemangordon: and it's not supposed to blindly overwrite the old instance |
| 20:11.00 | freemangordon | why do you think that? |
| 20:11.11 | freemangordon | it could be made that way by design |
| 20:11.31 | kerio | freemangordon: ok, then it shoudln't be supposed to blindly overwrite the old instance |
| 20:30.26 | freemangordon | luf: ping |
| 20:33.28 | freemangordon | luf: it seems that wooden head has the same problem as mine yesterday, for some reason stupid BT stack on windoze refuses to refresh FTP once there was an error. |
| 20:34.04 | freemangordon | I managed to put it in that state by trying to browse FTP while obexd was not running :D |
| 20:34.44 | freemangordon | but by any means it is not a problem of obexd |
| 20:52.49 | luf | freemangordon: pong |
| 20:53.06 | freemangordon | luf: read the backscroll |
| 20:53.18 | luf | Who knows. I'll try to put in into the TODO. |
| 20:53.32 | freemangordon | luf: what? |
| 20:53.59 | freemangordon | luf: the next few lines after my second bing |
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| 20:54.06 | freemangordon | *ping |
| 20:54.06 | deepy | ... |
| 20:54.09 | kerio | deepy: have you made the backupmenu backup? |
| 20:54.10 | deepy | It's the same people isn't it? |
| 20:54.13 | deepy | Yep |
| 20:54.14 | luf | Maybe there is a problem in bluez or obexd. |
| 20:54.29 | kerio | chem|st: *cssu-s poke* |
| 20:54.36 | kerio | deepy: does it hang after booting? |
| 20:54.37 | luf | freemangordon: I don't see you first ping :D |
| 20:54.39 | kerio | what is it doing? |
| 20:54.47 | deepy | kerio: I can videotape it for you :) |
| 20:54.53 | kerio | just describe it |
| 20:54.57 | freemangordon | luf: makes no sense, as AIUI obexd should at least log something |
| 20:55.12 | freemangordon | luf: well, my last ping |
| 20:55.13 | kerio | can you access backupmenu? |
| 20:55.16 | deepy | I can't remember, give me a sec |
| 20:55.16 | kerio | does that work? |
| 20:55.20 | freemangordon | 23:28 <freemangordon> luf: ping |
| 20:55.24 | freemangordon | after that |
| 20:55.27 | deepy | Booting from nand, yadda ytadda |
| 20:55.29 | deepy | screen went black |
| 20:55.42 | deepy | white dots and of course it boots now |
| 20:55.49 | kerio | hahahah |
| 20:55.52 | deepy | I swear it did this for 10 minutes |
| 20:56.01 | deepy | the table was vibrating the entire time |
| 20:56.05 | kerio | can't reproduce, WONTFIX |
| 20:56.05 | luf | Strange I see only 22:11 and then 22:30 ... |
| 20:56.48 | deepy | Operating System successfully updated! |
| 20:56.50 | kerio | deepy: yay! |
| 20:56.53 | luf | Yeah I red it. But I want to trace more (bluetoothd debug + hcidump). Sometimes when I have some spere time :D |
| 20:56.54 | freemangordon | luf: |
| 20:57.01 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 20:57.04 | kerio | deepy: hm, try rebooting |
| 20:57.27 | kerio | deepy: also try not to get your n900 in a situation where it doesn't boot and it can't load backupmenu *and* the battery is depleted |
| 20:57.55 | kerio | there's an emergency charge mode, but it won't charge the battery enough to flash, only to boot |
| 20:58.05 | freemangordon | sorry, I have missed the party, what went wrong with deepy's device? |
| 20:58.17 | kerio | freemangordon: he claims he had a bootloop after installing cssu-S |
| 20:58.21 | deepy | After stable install, reboot loop for many minutes |
| 20:58.32 | freemangordon | deepy: which kernel? |
| 20:58.34 | kerio | but then it worked when launching it from bootmenu |
| 20:58.41 | freemangordon | bootmenu? |
| 20:58.46 | freemangordon | WTF is that? |
| 20:58.50 | deepy | kerio: on the third try |
| 20:58.57 | kerio | freemangordon: the thing with the menu during boot |
| 20:58.59 | freemangordon | multiboot? |
| 20:59.11 | kerio | no, the "keep kbd slider open while booting" |
| 20:59.19 | kerio | the one you use to launch backupmenu |
| 20:59.24 | freemangordon | aah, Pali's one |
| 20:59.34 | freemangordon | kerio: I don't have BM :P |
| 20:59.39 | kerio | ...wtf |
| 20:59.45 | freemangordon | I have a developer device ;) |
| 20:59.49 | kerio | don't be ridiculous |
| 20:59.52 | freemangordon | (well, second device) |
| 20:59.56 | kerio | it's incredibly useful, especially for your main phone |
| 21:00.06 | kerio | deepy: can you test if booting without bootmenu works? |
| 21:00.08 | freemangordon | kerio: I don;t wan't to feel safe |
| 21:00.20 | luf | freemangordon: have you red this? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1268077#post1268077 |
| 21:00.56 | freemangordon | kerio: especially when I expect users without BM to install the same stuff I am installing (cssu-thumb) |
| 21:01.02 | deepy | it's loading the boot menu even with te keyboard closed |
| 21:01.13 | kerio | deepy: ...ok, that's definetely new |
| 21:01.26 | kerio | and it's not exactly good |
| 21:01.55 | kerio | close the slider and try to look inside - is the keyboard backlight on? |
| 21:02.09 | deepy | yes |
| 21:02.22 | kerio | well, sir, you might have a hardware problem |
| 21:02.29 | freemangordon | bad, bad, bad :( |
| 21:02.42 | deepy | and the settings have reset |
| 21:02.43 | freemangordon | luf: is that related to HF problems? |
| 21:03.03 | kerio | deepy: which settings? |
| 21:03.08 | luf | freemangordon: Yes. I installed bluez-4.99 and it works :D |
| 21:03.10 | deepy | asked me for date |
| 21:03.12 | freemangordon | did I understand correctly - you've upgraded BT stack? |
| 21:03.16 | deepy | but it remembered Ireland |
| 21:03.22 | freemangordon | luf: hehe |
| 21:03.24 | luf | freemangordon: yes you do :D |
| 21:03.24 | kerio | deepy: hm |
| 21:03.29 | kerio | deepy: have you removed the battery? |
| 21:03.43 | freemangordon | luf: upstream version? |
| 21:03.47 | deepy | Nope |
| 21:04.01 | kerio | ok, there's definetely something weird about your n900 |
| 21:04.15 | luf | freemangordon: last time I had problem with wrong BT name (get it from device driver) and this time it's ok. Huh thumb problem? Maybe. Shit! |
| 21:04.30 | freemangordon | thumb? |
| 21:04.35 | freemangordon | why is that? |
| 21:04.47 | luf | freemangordon: Not the newest time but maemo has 4.60 and I'm using 4.99 now. |
| 21:05.12 | freemangordon | luf: but why thumb? |
| 21:05.14 | luf | freemangordon: Do you remember that thumb is enabled by default in nokia's scratchbox ... |
| 21:05.19 | deepy | backlight turned off now |
| 21:05.21 | freemangordon | luf: aaah |
| 21:05.34 | luf | And I disabled it now recompile and it works like a charm ... |
| 21:05.36 | freemangordon | yes, I remember, as I was the one to discover it :P |
| 21:05.48 | luf | freemangordon: I think so ;) |
| 21:05.58 | freemangordon | yeaah |
| 21:06.10 | luf | freemangordon: BT name was the only problem I had with 4.99 ... |
| 21:06.20 | freemangordon | luf: do you know if stock is patched by nokia? |
| 21:07.01 | luf | freemangordon: So I'll stay at 4.99 now. I went throught it few month back. But I don't think so ... |
| 21:07.27 | deepy | that might've been the screen dimming |
| 21:07.34 | freemangordon | luf: may I have sources and/or .deb? |
| 21:07.36 | deepy | but no, the backlight does nto turn off :P |
| 21:07.53 | freemangordon | deepy: do you have RD mode enabled? |
| 21:08.16 | deepy | possibly by accident, I am not sure what it is |
| 21:08.32 | luf | freemangordon: sure it's in that thread: http://merlin1991.at/~luf/bluez/ |
| 21:09.39 | freemangordon | i'll recompile it with thumb and will install it on my primary device. HF is connected all day long adn I ocasionally use BT to transfer pictures. |
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| 21:09.49 | freemangordon | Woody14619: hi! |
| 21:09.55 | Woody14619 | hi? :) |
| 21:10.06 | freemangordon | luf: any changelog in humar readible form? |
| 21:10.14 | freemangordon | *human |
| 21:10.27 | luf | It's in the deb :) But it's huge :D |
| 21:10.43 | luf | I took maemo changelog as the base ... |
| 21:11.00 | luf | As I said it was several month ago :) |
| 21:11.35 | deepy | I do not have RD mode from what I can tell, I need to longpress to start the phone. But I did install rootfs to get sudo gainroot |
| 21:11.36 | freemangordon | aah, and you gave up because of the bug, which now turns out is not a bug. I see |
| 21:11.41 | luf | freemangordon: basicaly it's the same changelog as bluez upstream for 4.99 |
| 21:11.55 | freemangordon | ok |
| 21:12.09 | freemangordon | but I see that as a pissible candidate for CSSU |
| 21:12.14 | freemangordon | *possible |
| 21:12.27 | freemangordon | has another typo day |
| 21:12.35 | luf | freemangordon: max to -testing ... you know the guy :D |
| 21:14.57 | freemangordon | luf: naah, if it is OK, there is no reason to stay in -testing |
| 21:15.10 | freemangordon | you'll see what will happen with curl ;) |
| 21:15.34 | luf | freemangordon: totaly crashed dev devices? :D |
| 21:15.47 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 21:16.04 | freemangordon | luf: curl seems rock stable, I think it will make it in the next -stable |
| 21:16.26 | freemangordon | it depends on when chem|st will decide to make a new update |
| 21:16.51 | freemangordon | if the quarantine period had passed, then most probably it will be there |
| 21:17.07 | luf | freemangordon: we'll see. |
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| 21:17.42 | freemangordon | yes, we'll see. But this is how things work, no matter arguing and whatnot |
| 21:18.11 | luf | freemangordon: pinochio has question why it works with obexd_0.18. It's too hard to say. I need reproducible case ... This is terrible even communication through TMO. |
| 21:18.48 | freemangordon | luf: seems windoze BT stack caches some bits |
| 21:19.27 | freemangordon | in such a way that even re-pairing does not help |
| 21:20.01 | freemangordon | and pinochio said that deleting and re-adding the device works, at least that is waht I understood from his last post |
| 21:21.54 | freemangordon | luf: did he try to revert once it stopped to work? |
| 21:28.45 | luf | freemangordon: we also need some native germany speaker as somtimes it's to hard to understand his english. |
| 21:29.11 | luf | freemangordon: I don't know (or understand) if he revert. |
| 21:29.42 | luf | *it's too hard to |
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| 21:37.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | "pissible" is my invention! ;-) |
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| 21:40.08 | freemangordon | someone should edit that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo |
| 21:40.35 | freemangordon | and add the missing CSSU bits ;) |
| 21:40.52 | freemangordon | maybe maemo council? |
| 21:40.57 | freemangordon | Woody14619: ^^^ ? |
| 21:41.14 | Woody14619 | Missing CSSU bits? |
| 21:41.34 | freemangordon | not a word about CSSU |
| 21:41.49 | freemangordon | for Fremantle that is |
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| 21:43.16 | Woody14619 | Hmm... We should put that up there, for sure. |
| 21:43.51 | freemangordon | yes |
| 21:44.07 | Woody14619 | But frankly, I currently lack the time to do it. (And haven't updated enough on wikipedia to have the creds or technical know how to do so easily.) |
| 21:44.37 | Woody14619 | I can ask around for volunteers though, and at a minimum put it on the "to do" list. |
| 21:44.38 | freemangordon | hmm, who does MWKN? |
| 21:44.51 | Woody14619 | Jaffa does that. :) |
| 21:45.28 | freemangordon | well, he is a good writer, maybe he will volunteer if we ask him politely :) |
| 21:45.33 | Woody14619 | I was also hoping to promote CSSU on the Maemo Facebook Fan page, as we currently have posting access to that... |
| 21:45.48 | freemangordon | hoping? |
| 21:46.17 | Woody14619 | Which is why we were asking for a installer package before... But then s*it hit the fan at Nokia and it fell off the priority list. |
| 21:46.32 | freemangordon | aah, I see |
| 21:47.53 | Woody14619 | We really should put that up though... |
| 21:48.41 | Woody14619 | Is there a .install file laying around for the existing CSSU-S installer package? Or is that only in testing still? |
| 21:49.08 | Woody14619 | (I think that was the issue last time, that the package was on in CSSU-T?) |
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| 21:50.44 | freemangordon | Woody14619: http://repository.maemo.org/community/community-fremantle.install ? |
| 21:53.01 | Woody14619 | But does that install CSSU-T or CSSU-S? |
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| 21:59.53 | gregoa | Woody14619: that's for cssu-s, the one for cssu-t is http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/community-testing.install |
| 22:01.50 | Woody14619 | Awesome. :) Will work on a post for FB tonight then. ;) |
| 22:02.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: installer package? just publish a dead stupid "this is maemo furure (introducing CSSU)" package to extras, that does just open http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 22:03.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafq pretty pleas edo NOT cut corners to allow noobs to install cssu without reading http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 22:03.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | we put some thought into this concept |
| 22:08.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you haven't anticipated yet, very first idea been to put cssu-enabler into extras(-*) as a normal insatll pkg. We opted to NOT do that, since we thought it's mandatory that users read http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
| 22:09.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619: you hear me? |
| 22:10.12 | Woody14619 | Ah... I see. Will link to the main page then instead. I will probably not post it until tomorrow in any case... |
| 22:10.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks (phoooooh) |
| 22:11.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | figures shitstorms of noobs bitching about "what's that???!1!!??!11!?" |
| 22:11.10 | Woody14619 | I suspect that a chunk of those on the FB page already know about TMO, and thus about CSSU. But then it can't hurt to widen exposure. |
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| 22:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you wanna do something really helpful, mention that cssu-s now is the semi-official update method for maemo |
| 22:12.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | as official as it gets (and btw the only one existing) |
| 22:12.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it's really recommended to *every* N900 user now |
| 22:12.52 | Woody14619 | Will do. :) |
| 22:13.45 | Woody14619 | Off to throw a heavy ball with holes in it at some wooden pins several yards away... :P Will do this when I come back, or maybe tomorrow. :) |
| 22:14.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | while I hit the sack |
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