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09:56.48 | kerio | i just noticed that i get two entries in the connection dialog for wifi networks with WPS, one with and one without |
09:56.52 | kerio | is this a cssu addition? |
10:00.09 | merlin1991 | kerio: that's same as on stock |
10:00.16 | kerio | are you sure? i never noticed |
10:00.21 | kerio | was it added in PR1.3? |
10:02.26 | merlin1991 | possibly, I remember it at least that I had it before cssu |
10:02.35 | merlin1991 | and I know we didn't change anyhting related to that |
10:02.45 | kerio | i don't remember it but i jumped from pr1.2 to cssu |
10:02.51 | merlin1991 | (since the wifi bits are mostly closed) |
10:05.58 | arcean | hmm, /topic is outdated :P |
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10:07.42 | merlin1991 | better? :) |
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10:07.54 | arcean | hehe, yes :) |
10:09.13 | merlin1991 | I guess I'll finish the new -testing tonight, should I include your mg aswell? |
10:10.05 | arcean | If you have time to merge changes, why not :) |
10:11.24 | kerio | is cbsms fixed? |
10:18.48 | kerio | also, what adds the extra triggers for the call duration to rtcom-eventlogger? |
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11:04.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | new S followed/paralleled by new T confused hell outa me last few days. sorry for a few inappropriate comments that were meant to T but given in response to S topics |
11:13.49 | luf | kerio: without this triggers you have no endtime in call history so you don't know how long the call takes. |
11:14.26 | kerio | luf: i asked what adds those triggers, not what those triggers add |
11:14.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | my script adds them ;-) |
11:15.00 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: when? |
11:15.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing in cssu adds them afaik |
11:15.14 | kerio | oh |
11:15.22 | kerio | wait, really? |
11:16.01 | luf | I have no call durations (empty endtime). |
11:16.11 | kerio | no, i meant |
11:16.15 | kerio | i thought it was something added to cssu |
11:16.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | luf: run that friggin script! ;-D |
11:16.31 | luf | I'm using testing CSSU ... |
11:16.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: it's pending |
11:16.49 | kerio | is it pending in -devel? |
11:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, as a task in garage |
11:17.09 | kerio | laaaaaaaaaaame |
11:17.10 | luf | DocS: I don't miss it so much. I want to complete this task for next testing. But we'll see. |
11:17.35 | kerio | merlin1991: will the silly cbsms logging bug be fixed in this testing? |
11:17.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yes |
11:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless we fixed it for S but not for T now ;-P |
11:18.25 | kerio | :O |
11:18.27 | kerio | it's in S? |
11:18.28 | kerio | madness |
11:18.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I HOPE it's not |
11:18.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | new S followed/paralleled by new T confused hell outa me last few days. sorry for a few inappropriate comments that were meant to T but given in response to S topics |
11:18.55 | kerio | you already said that |
11:19.22 | kerio | i didn't know you were old enough to forget stuff like that |
11:19.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly dunno why we hurried that much to get the fix into source and build, when it's for T like it should |
11:20.09 | kerio | GrampaScrutinizer: because there's a T release in a very short time |
11:20.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I thought you haven't seen it, otherwise you might have been able to tell why I think it could've been in S |
11:21.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet chem|st and merlin1991 are a good bit younger and less confused than me |
11:22.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-07 12:09:12] <merlin1991> I guess I'll finish the new -testing tonight, should I include your mg aswell? |
11:22.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | so no idea why we hurried THAT much yesterday |
11:22.39 | kerio | idk |
11:23.05 | kerio | also LOL, i never noticed this before |
11:23.05 | kerio | 07.08.0112 10:53:05 service provider name match |
11:23.12 | kerio | this is *not* 112 AD |
11:23.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, maybe arab calendar |
11:24.00 | kerio | cbsms should really be cleaned |
11:24.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | recalling the way timestamp is created/generated in each of those fprintf() I dunno though how that can happen |
11:25.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | are you sure your system time isn't completely off? |
11:25.25 | kerio | ven 7 set 2012 13:25:19 CEST |
11:25.26 | kerio | nope |
11:25.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
11:25.46 | kerio | otoh, we're 112 years after 1900 |
11:26.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | however look at this: >> fprintf(f,"%sincoming cell tower name %s, cell id %d\n",get_timestamp(),utf8,priv->cell_id); |
11:26.03 | kerio | but Y2K was 12 years ago, i thought we fixed that |
11:26.15 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: go look at the specific line |
11:26.20 | kerio | (i can't, i don't have the source) |
11:26.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | me neither |
11:28.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | here you are https://www.gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget/blobs/9c19e807f04312b1e5d71d4283f4aa55bd152f0f/sbpluginsrc/operator-name-cbs-home-item.c#line690 |
11:29.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | (not the line, but source) |
11:29.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I leave it as an exercise up to you to spot the right line |
11:29.43 | kerio | it's... that one? |
11:30.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | (since you didn't even tell it's a unique line problem) |
11:30.39 | kerio | hm, how is localtime(time(NULL))->tm_year defined? |
11:30.58 | kerio | tm_year The number of years since 1900. |
11:30.59 | kerio | YEP |
11:31.16 | kerio | why doesn't that... thing... use strftime? |
11:31.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | why is gitorious down? |
11:32.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah better |
11:32.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | stalls on 72% now |
11:33.00 | kerio | https://www.gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget/blobs/9c19e807f04312b1e5d71d4283f4aa55bd152f0f/sbpluginsrc/operator-name-cbs-home-item.c#line83 |
11:33.05 | kerio | oh god, static buffer |
11:34.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | FFS forget it I can't access gitorious |
11:35.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm? |
11:36.24 | kerio | ...why is this on my n900? :'( |
11:36.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | because you're a bleeding edge junkie |
11:36.57 | kerio | true, true |
11:37.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | and we appreciiate that |
11:37.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise it probably wouldn't have seen any *decent* tests yet |
11:38.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway sorry, can't get source from friggin git |
11:38.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | so o/ |
11:38.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | big bluebox calling |
11:40.45 | kerio | big bluebox? |
11:41.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rl |
11:41.01 | infobot | hmm... rl is Real Life (the bad world out there), or known as the Big Blue Box (tm). Conways game using only rational numbers |
11:41.51 | kerio | ew :c |
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11:44.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo real life |
11:44.42 | infobot | real life -- created by wolfie <brian@mo73.housing.hawaii.edu> at Sun Mar 19 10:25:03 2000 (4555 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
11:44.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | smart hackers |
11:45.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | conway's game of life, based only on reals, BWAHAHAHA |
11:45.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | each hacker knows there IS NO such thing like "real (game of) Life" |
11:46.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless you use fractional number of dimensions |
11:46.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | or zombie state for life in cells represented as 1/3 |
11:48.14 | kerio | meh, you just need three states for that |
11:48.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | "how many squares/qubes ajacent to the square/qube under test have an object in them?" "2.3055189E2" |
11:49.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | right, zombie state is absolutely nonsensical |
11:50.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | a typical case where silly coders tend to use real for no good reason, since the value space is discrete and not contiguous |
11:51.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | add $0.50 plus $0.10 --- humm let's use float for that |
11:51.58 | kerio | :D |
11:52.07 | kerio | it's actually against a bunch of certifications for financial stuff |
11:52.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | for good reason |
11:52.28 | kerio | you need fixed-point with four decimals for mone |
11:52.28 | kerio | y |
11:52.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | since in float you get $0.6079345383747 as result |
11:53.37 | kerio | 0.5 + 0.1 == 0.6 in python |
11:53.38 | kerio | :) |
11:53.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | in COBOL you even may use 9.9999 DISPLAY |
11:54.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
11:54.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | but NEVER use COMP |
11:54.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | (aka float/real) |
11:54.22 | kerio | python is smarter |
11:54.34 | kerio | it uses the shortest decimal representation that evaluates to that float |
11:54.39 | kerio | and it also only uses doubles :) |
11:55.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | shell even smarter, it never uses anything but DISPLAY |
11:55.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | but then unlimited digits precision afaik |
11:55.47 | kerio | heh |
11:55.54 | kerio | it's also really inefficient though |
11:56.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~0.999999999999999999999999999999999 + 0.000000000000000000000000001 |
11:56.10 | infobot | 1 |
11:56.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | depends on your definition of efficiency |
11:56.43 | kerio | hm, python also has arbitrary precision decimals |
11:57.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~0.999999999999999999999999999999999 + 0.000000000000000000000000002 |
11:57.19 | infobot | 1 |
11:57.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
11:57.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~2+0.5 |
11:57.50 | infobot | 2.5 |
11:57.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
11:58.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | well and shell actually doesn't handle decimals at all, sorry for nonsense spread |
12:01.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | tzzz git resurrected |
12:01.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget/blobs/9c19e807f04312b1e5d71d4283f4aa55bd152f0f/sbpluginsrc/operator-name-cbs-home-item.c#line83 indeed :-S |
12:02.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | thought it's a glib function |
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12:03.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | however I can't spot where your Y2K problem comes from |
12:03.45 | kerio | what do you mean? |
12:03.56 | kerio | Tm->tm_year |
12:04.01 | kerio | tm_year The number of years since 1900. |
12:04.28 | kerio | (from the ctime(3) man page) |
12:04.33 | kerio | well, localtime(3) |
12:04.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
12:05.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's wrong with sprintf("%04d", tm->year)? |
12:06.07 | luf | tm->year is usually number od years since 1900 ;) |
12:06.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's wrong with sprintf(mystringbuffer, "%04d", tm->tm_year)? |
12:06.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | OOOOOH LOL |
12:06.20 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: because tm_year is the number of years since 1900 |
12:06.25 | kerio | and in 2012, it's 102 |
12:06.37 | luf | 102+10 ;) |
12:06.41 | kerio | er, yes |
12:06.49 | kerio | AND YOU SHOULD USE THE FUCKING STRFTIME |
12:07.37 | ShadowJK | no! printf("19%d", tm->year); is oviously correct ! |
12:07.58 | ShadowJK | remembers receiving emails from 19100 |
12:08.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | YEEEAAAAH!!! |
12:08.05 | luf | :D |
12:08.38 | kerio | http://www.escolacena.com.br/ |
12:08.43 | kerio | Data: Sexta-Feira, 07/09/19112 |
12:08.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, big blue box can't be as mad as this :-D |
12:09.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | 7me heads out adding H2O to the soil of stupid green lifeforms in the garden |
12:09.33 | kerio | i have / as shift+7 too ^_^ |
12:09.46 | kerio | ...not on the n900 though |
12:10.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems my typing gets worse every year, due to loss of muscle coordination |
12:11.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders if that's beginning Alzheimer, Parkinson, or simply called "age" |
12:12.32 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: yes |
12:13.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf Sexta-Feira |
12:14.26 | kerio | Sexta-feira é o sexto dia da semana, seguindo a quinta-feira e precedendo o sábado |
12:14.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | 6th day of week, celebrate Freya? |
12:14.42 | kerio | portuguese sucks |
12:15.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah feira is week? |
12:15.21 | kerio | semana is week |
12:15.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | thought as much |
12:15.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | with my 3 words spanish |
12:16.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | so what's feira? |
12:16.09 | kerio | segunda-feira, terça-feira, quarta-feira, quinta-feira, sexta-feira, sàbado, domingo |
12:16.10 | kerio | wtf |
12:16.19 | kerio | WHERE'S prima-feira YOU MORONS |
12:16.36 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: "fair" |
12:16.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | domingo |
12:17.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | now start weekday counting with monday in your programs/excel-sheets/etc and confusion is *perfect* |
12:18.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | segunda-feira==1 |
12:18.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | domingo==7 |
12:18.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
12:18.40 | kerio | it's actually not really confusing |
12:18.47 | kerio | IF YOU USE PROPER LOCALE-AWARE FUNCTIONS |
12:19.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsck braindead locales |
12:19.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least I see now why there's an option for START_OF_WEEK==sunday |
12:21.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | something conveniently ignored when morons define 'smart' company-internal date format like 1239:1 |
12:21.51 | kerio | wat |
12:21.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even 239:1 |
12:22.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | 201_2_, 39th week, day one |
12:22.38 | kerio | ew |
12:22.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | no kidding |
12:23.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | 129 --- WTF now, is this document from 2012 week 9, or from 2011 week 29 ???? >:-( |
12:24.07 | kerio | from 2001 week 29 you mean |
12:24.21 | kerio | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Week_dates |
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12:24.29 | kerio | if you don't use standards, you suck |
12:24.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, they conveniently ignore tens in years |
12:24.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes |
12:24.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course no week 09, it's just 9 |
12:25.07 | kerio | oh gof |
12:25.08 | kerio | god |
12:26.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1297, looks similarly stupid for today's date |
12:27.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess STE invented that in 2001, when they pondered how to fuck up better than Y2K |
12:28.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | U got an idea about my daily WTF when working in this company |
12:28.17 | kerio | i suppose they weren't expecting to last until 2011 |
12:28.18 | kerio | :D |
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13:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | FUUUCK! new marble has black-on-black-text issue in route-planning screen |
13:38.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | I thouhgt this been a Qt bug fixed like 18 months ago?! >:-( |
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13:40.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, completely borked, FINE :(((( |
13:41.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just hope that's not due to CSSU-T Qt messing |
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13:57.41 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: wait, you can't read black-on-black? |
13:57.44 | kerio | man, your eyesight really sucks |
13:58.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
13:59.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | If I wouldn't feel that pissed, I'd install friggin marble on a fsckng stock PR1.3.1 and test it there |
14:00.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | worst thing: I don't have most recent BM-backup to restore to old marble version |
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14:02.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all it would be a not completely irrelevant detail if this bug is caused by marble or by cssu-t |
14:02.12 | kerio | madness |
14:02.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, I recall ivgalvez et al nagging about "so you think Qt update on cssu was *not* risky?!" |
14:02.50 | kerio | haha |
14:02.59 | kerio | anyway, test it on stock |
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14:04.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, gotta get breakfast first |
14:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | brunch, brinner, whatever |
14:17.37 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: so, is it confirmed a cssu-t bug? |
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15:08.53 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: srsly, how much are you eating? :o |
15:37.00 | merlin1991 | owns a fsckd car |
15:37.25 | merlin1991 | fuel pump died today :/ |
15:37.59 | kerio | recompile it |
15:39.02 | jon_y | relink it |
15:39.30 | jon_y | hah, reassemble it |
15:42.16 | ivgalvez | merlin1991 |
15:42.28 | merlin1991 | ivgalvez: afaik that's my nick |
15:42.33 | ivgalvez | we are talking to X-Fade at maemo-meeting |
15:42.49 | merlin1991 | yeah saw he said someone came back who can look at it |
15:42.53 | ivgalvez | I assume repo management still not working |
15:42.56 | merlin1991 | yep |
15:43.01 | ivgalvez | ok |
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19:28.13 | Sicelo | installing 21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1 |
19:28.27 | Sicelo | thanks for your efforts everyone |
19:31.50 | Sicelo | great PDF Viewer is looking good |
19:31.53 | Sicelo | \o/ |
19:39.42 | kerio | huh? pdfviewer was updated? |
19:44.01 | Sicelo | yeah.. with translations |
19:44.22 | Sicelo | on Stable, at least.. i don't know about Testing |
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20:46.44 | merlin1991 | Sicelo: been in testing for long :) |
20:47.33 | Sicelo | indeed. heh. |
20:48.27 | Sicelo | i almost got brave enough to ask what's holding up a new stable. then again, i reproached myself, knowing i have dev'd zero of the stuff that's there :P |
20:59.59 | Sicelo | ke-recv is really nice here :P |
21:02.19 | kerio | ke-recv can't be configured to only export partitions off the uSD |
21:02.20 | kerio | :c |
21:12.35 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
21:12.36 | Sicelo | :-/ |
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