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10:45.08 | merlin1991 | luf ping |
10:48.42 | merlin1991 | @asnyone how would I found out about my hdd drives from the commandline (manufacturer and similar info) |
11:19.18 | merlin1991 | neither luf nor pali around |
11:19.22 | merlin1991 | but i need them both |
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12:22.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: find out about hdd? try hdparm |
12:24.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: also smart tools may help a lot |
12:25.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | hdparm -I </phy/name> |
12:27.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | smartctl --all /dev/sda |
12:29.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe smartctl -i /dev/sda |
12:29.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | a tad more terse |
13:27.30 | gregoa | merlin1991: lshw is also nice for getting hardware info |
13:47.27 | merlin1991 | gregoa: lshw is nice, I never knew it existed :D |
13:47.59 | gregoa | :) |
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13:52.59 | luf | merlin1991: pong |
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14:01.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | luf: you got your account? |
14:01.57 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: yes. thanks. |
14:03.27 | luf | I didn't assign the task as I want to do once by once. Not all tasks at one time. |
14:03.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | no lshw on my PC |
14:03.59 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: let's install it ;) |
14:04.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | must be a buntkuh thing |
14:04.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
14:05.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: you seen my semi-honest rant about "blacklisting" rogue pkgs? |
14:05.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | over at #maemo |
14:06.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-02 02:03:11] * DocScrutinizer05 honestly ponders to integrate a malware filter to CSSU. First candidates to nuke form device and HAM list of available apps: batterypatch and speedpatch [2012-09-02 02:03:19] <DocScrutinizer05> and fapman [2012-09-02 02:03:23] <DocScrutinizer05> ;-P [2012-09-02 02:04:33] <DocScrutinizer05> meh, waaay simpler: get dummy void packages of same name into CSSU MP |
14:23.12 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: with a really high version, you mean? |
14:23.21 | kerio | btw, does uninstalling for those work? |
14:24.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yep |
14:24.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | (for first Q) |
14:25.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: NFC if you could properly uninstall this *patch abominations |
14:25.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather guess you can't |
14:26.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/this/these/. |
14:38.56 | kerio | goddammit, where's pali |
14:39.02 | kerio | i want to know how ke-recv is supposed to work |
14:42.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
14:42.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're not alone |
14:43.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe reading source could help? ;-) |
14:43.33 | kerio | i hoped for a bbscript |
14:43.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | bitbake receipe? |
14:43.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeew |
14:44.04 | kerio | busybox script |
14:44.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ouch |
14:44.18 | kerio | "shell" is too much for that crap |
14:44.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ak, I'm fine with that |
14:44.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok* |
14:45.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
14:45.02 | kerio | also, i hope pali made his changes configurable |
14:45.11 | kerio | i don't want to export my whole sd when i tap "mass storage mode" |
14:45.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I doubt there's much configurability in ke-recv |
14:45.25 | kerio | (also, how do i trigger the automounter manually?) |
14:45.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | ke-recv-test ? |
14:46.13 | kerio | hm, there's nothing *that* specific |
14:46.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | m - enable USB mass storage |
14:46.33 | kerio | hm, maybe e - check device <arg> |
14:46.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | or that |
14:47.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | cb - close battery cover signal |
14:47.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | will obviously automount the uSD |
14:47.38 | kerio | nope! |
14:47.52 | kerio | doesn't work |
14:47.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless ke-recv-test is to fake signals *from* ke-recv *to* other subsystems |
14:48.24 | kerio | fdisk /dev/mmcblk1 and then w works, though |
14:48.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | which again is as obscure as ke-recv itself |
14:48.39 | kerio | oh no, doesn't |
14:48.43 | kerio | because i'm actually using the usd |
14:48.44 | kerio | :S |
14:50.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/trees/master |
14:50.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | for your "convenience" |
14:52.16 | kerio | so far the only way i've found is to use fdisk or similar to trigger the automounter |
14:52.23 | kerio | but it only works if you're not using the uSD at all |
14:55.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha for http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/ke-recv.schemas#line72 |
14:56.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | gitorious html formatter doesn't like the <cr> in there, I wonder if it's otherwise harmless |
14:57.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/ke-recv.schemas#line83 same |
14:57.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | 124 same |
14:57.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | 135, |
14:59.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/osso-mmc-mount.sh; http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/mmc-mount ?? |
15:01.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: finally you'll want to have a look to http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c |
15:01.49 | merlin1991 | encoding bs ftw |
15:02.08 | merlin1991 | luf: I'll get back to you tomorrow? or are you around in about 4 hours today? |
15:02.27 | merlin1991 | make that 4 to 6 :D |
15:03.09 | luf | merlin1991: We'll see. |
15:05.12 | luf | Feel free to write what you want even when I'm not available. |
15:05.35 | luf | Or you can send me the mail :) |
15:07.28 | merlin1991 | well my main question was about rtcom-logger-async, where does the code come from, does it affect other packages aswell, ... |
15:07.56 | merlin1991 | since the obexd update would require it |
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15:09.01 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: blacklist won't worge because said packages don't uninstall properly so we risk more removing them than keeping them |
15:09.13 | merlin1991 | s/worge/work/ |
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15:09.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | (const char*)dgettext("hildon-fm", "sfil_li_memorycard_removable"), 100); --- BLAERGH! |
15:12.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line149 OOOUUUUUCH! |
15:13.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line149 OOOUUUUUCH!http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line168 http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line176 HOLY SPAGHETTI MONSTER W*T*F?! |
15:14.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Author: Kimmo H�m�l�inen <kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com> |
15:15.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I probably should memorize that one pretty well |
15:15.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | just in case |
15:16.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | can't stop puking |
15:17.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | a chain of THREE backwards goto plus one forward goto to actual "end of mess" |
15:17.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't recall when I last seen such indigestible mess |
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15:18.16 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: oh lol |
15:19.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's how you scare pupils in first class C course |
15:19.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | or general programming class |
15:20.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E. it's worse than worst prototypical bad examples I've ever encountered |
15:20.24 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: mmc-mount sounds... weird |
15:20.33 | kerio | i mean, there's a file in /etc/default/ that lists the options for vfat partitions |
15:20.38 | kerio | but that's not referred to anywhere :S |
15:20.45 | kerio | i think |
15:20.48 | kerio | or maybe it sets an env? |
15:20.53 | kerio | meh |
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15:21.17 | kerio | i don't even |
15:21.28 | kerio | why did nokia feel the need to reinvent an automounter? |
15:21.33 | kerio | and why didn't they implement it in a sensible way? |
15:22.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only hope it's not been pali to introduce this goto-horrorshow in there |
15:22.40 | kerio | check the blame |
15:23.06 | kerio | ivaylo dimitrov |
15:30.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | tell me how to do that? (check blame) |
15:31.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah nm |
15:31.09 | kerio | up on that page, "Blame" |
15:31.28 | kerio | alternatively, git someweirdshitthatsoundsunrelated thatfile |
15:33.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ivaylo dimitrov sounds uncomfortably familiar :-/ |
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15:45.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly this needs cleanup! |
15:48.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | if only it's pulling down lines 143,144, 154,155, 161,162 to bootom of function, in secuence error3: error2: error1: and obviously deleting former 144 155 162 |
15:48.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus a few 3 more edits |
15:48.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | NO BACKWARDS GOTO! NEVER! |
15:49.47 | kerio | prepares a commit to fix that, by using setjmp/longjmp |
15:49.57 | kerio | u mad |
15:50.03 | kerio | why u mad |
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15:59.54 | illuminata | so i got that nasty auto-reboot bug. just cropped up a couple/few days ago |
16:00.05 | illuminata | gonna try to go ssu, hope it doesn't boot me out |
16:00.47 | illuminata | seems ok enough when i'm actively using an app. yet again i was just actively using the app manager and it rebooted so |
16:02.43 | kerio | auto-reboot bug? :o |
16:03.38 | illuminata | yeah. it sucks bad. icons/carrier name can't stay drawn on the home screen. they disappear. keeps cycling. after a few minutes the phone reboots |
16:04.00 | kerio | what did you install, exactly? |
16:04.19 | kerio | sounds like a dsme reboot |
16:04.39 | illuminata | nothing for months really |
16:05.05 | kerio | well something broke somewhere and dsme gets tired of respawning it so it reboots your phone |
16:05.13 | illuminata | i tried uninstalling omweather, didn't see if i could uninstall rss. those don't draw at all |
16:05.25 | kerio | so... hildon-home problem |
16:05.26 | illuminata | i figured it was something like that but wasn't sure on the specifics |
16:05.32 | kerio | try deleting the config files for that |
16:05.41 | kerio | and by deleting i mean moving somewhere else |
16:05.48 | illuminata | hmm, will try |
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16:06.58 | kerio | illuminata: were you on some flavour of cssu? |
16:07.02 | kerio | maybe thumb? |
16:07.08 | illuminata | nope, just 1.3.1 |
16:07.09 | kerio | but without the appropriate kernel |
16:07.14 | kerio | hm |
16:07.27 | kerio | did you overclock? |
16:07.42 | illuminata | nah |
16:07.50 | illuminata | i mean i really don't do much with this phone short of calls and irc |
16:08.22 | kerio | anyway, you could enable rd mode |
16:08.25 | kerio | and disable the watchdog |
16:08.30 | kerio | (this can be done with flasher) |
16:08.39 | kerio | (well, it must be done with flasher, really) |
16:09.18 | illuminata | will it work with any flavor of the flasher? because i might have to boot up my linux laptop as i'm in a 64 bit windows environment now |
16:10.18 | kerio | \_o_/ |
16:10.55 | illuminata | that's either a shrug or a muscle flex |
16:11.26 | kerio | yes |
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16:28.21 | fruct | Hello All. I'm start community-ssu-enabler, and my device is unusable now! Please help me! |
16:28.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | first clean / rename your hildon-desktop related config files like suggested by kerio |
16:28.53 | kerio | fruct: which one? |
16:29.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | fruct: there's a pretty clear and non-interpretable instruction on how to enable CSSU, on |
16:29.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu |
16:29.31 | infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU |
16:29.44 | fruct | kerio: the stable version |
16:29.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | did you follow that? |
16:30.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation |
16:32.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | starts to think there's some weird package named cssu-enabler out there, free to install by user any arbitrary (fapman, apt) way he feels might fit |
16:32.28 | kerio | he said community-ssu-enabler |
16:32.32 | fruct | I did do backup =( |
16:32.33 | fruct | I'm before install power kernel and enchanced busybox |
16:32.54 | kerio | fruct: what do you mean by "unusable"? |
16:34.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | fruct: there's no support for any other way to install CSSU, other than the one described at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation |
16:34.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | and actually no other way usually works |
16:34.28 | fruct | the icons and status bar moved to upper left corner and desktop not switch and dont enable edit mode |
16:34.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | (unless your name is kerio and you love to mess with stuff) |
16:34.46 | kerio | =D |
16:34.54 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: hey, i did follow the instruction for cssu-te |
16:35.05 | kerio | and then i realized that HAM is stupid |
16:35.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | wasn't it you who refused to use HAM? |
16:35.28 | kerio | yeah but the first installation used community-ssu-enabler |
16:35.46 | kerio | i mean, followed the whole instructions |
16:35.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
16:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | so maybe we'll eventually find out if fruct did as well? |
16:36.12 | kerio | by the way, does community-ssu-enabler mark the maemo5 packages for manual installation? because autoremove works fine |
16:36.29 | kerio | i mean, it doesn't autoremove stuff that it shouldn't, for me |
16:36.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you're lucky |
16:36.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | for me it did ever since PR1.0.1 |
16:37.04 | kerio | did you upgrade from pr 1.0.1? |
16:37.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, from PR1.0 |
16:37.24 | kerio | wow |
16:37.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | tp PR1.0.1, to Pr1.1... |
16:37.37 | kerio | never reflashed? neat |
16:37.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | never reflashed |
16:37.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
16:38.16 | kerio | there was a dude that installed dos 6 in a VM |
16:38.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that's what makes the big difference for autoremove |
16:38.24 | kerio | and then started upgrading windows, from 1 to 7 |
16:38.38 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: you could just mark those package manual |
16:38.41 | kerio | with apt-mark |
16:38.45 | kerio | *packages |
16:39.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | fruct: we (well I at least) still didn't get what exactly you did |
16:40.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless your problem is with installation as described in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation, I'd suggest you reflash to clean PR1.3, then follow http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation |
16:42.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | *IF* your problem actually was during following instructions of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation, we'd like to hear details though, to fix any glitches in either cssu-enabler or instructions |
16:43.00 | kerio | maybe it was busybox-power! >:D |
16:43.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | I tried hard to not comment on it ;-P |
16:43.42 | illuminata | wooooow. re-flashed to nokia firmware. still doing that stupid bug |
16:43.53 | kerio | well i actually had a tiny problem with the busybox-power upgrade |
16:43.56 | kerio | er |
16:44.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | illuminata: please elaborate |
16:44.02 | kerio | well, the reinstall |
16:44.11 | kerio | illuminata: please elaborate, but in #maemo |
16:44.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
16:44.20 | fruct | kerio: yes! I install busybox-power! |
16:44.21 | kerio | because it's clearly not a CSSU problem anymore :) |
16:44.29 | illuminata | will do. thought i was gonna make progress on that front |
16:44.32 | kerio | fruct: i'm kinda joking, it should cause no problems |
16:44.37 | illuminata | was gonna be like "aw yeah cssu time" |
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16:51.41 | fruct | strange, on loading, first screen - normal and after, desktop becomes not normal |
16:56.46 | luf | merlin1991: I created rtcom-eventlogger-async from scratch. It's dbus daemon for async calls from obexd for call history and also MAP in near future. It's something like evolution-data-server-factory. Nothing else than obexd depends on rtcom-eventlogger-async. I asked you for creating new git repo for it. |
16:59.43 | merlin1991 | ah now I understand what it is :) |
16:59.46 | merlin1991 | I'll do the repo |
17:01.56 | merlin1991 | it's just, that I darkly remember a package called rtcom-eventlogger, but I don't even know what it does |
17:02.27 | merlin1991 | luf: by MAP you mean what? |
17:03.18 | luf | Message Access P(what is it for?) in obexd. To synchronize also SMS/... with HF. |
17:03.38 | merlin1991 | ah okay, map maps to maps/gps/whatever in my head :D |
17:03.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | Protocol |
17:03.57 | luf | rtcom-eventlogger is from nokia and it's for accessing the sms, call history etc. |
17:05.56 | merlin1991 | is the dbus interface the -async demon exports something that is based on obexd stuff, or more generic? |
17:08.44 | luf | it has two parts. server side and client side (library). Server side is the process what listen on some dbus path and response queries. |
17:10.06 | merlin1991 | is it reentrant? |
17:10.19 | luf | The client part is for easy calling it: |
17:10.21 | luf | gint rtcomel_get_event_async(RTCOMELEventCallback cb, const guint id, const gchar *intcols, const gchar *strcols, gpointer closure) |
17:10.21 | luf | gint rtcomel_get_event_list_async(RTCOMELEventListCallback cb, const gchar *query, const gchar *intcols, const gchar *strcols, const guint offset, const gint limit, gpointer closure) |
17:10.21 | luf | gint rtcomel_get_event_list_count_async(RTCOMELEventListCountCallback cb, const gchar *query, const guint offset, const gint limit, gpointer closure) |
17:10.43 | luf | This is exported from the client library. |
17:13.30 | luf | merlin1991: the dbus ensure that only once request is answered at a time in server side. |
17:14.25 | luf | And I see nothing on client side what should be problematic in threads. |
17:14.54 | luf | I took an inspiration from eds and DBUS examples on maemo pages :) |
17:17.46 | kerio | by the way, why does cssu have "releases"? |
17:21.05 | merlin1991 | so anybody could use the lib? |
17:27.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: that's actually a good question. In fact I'm pushing towards rolling updates since long. We need to get rid of MP as much as possible for that |
17:27.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and sort the dependencies mess |
17:27.48 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: there's a problem though |
17:28.00 | kerio | HAM can't upgrade non-user, non-metapackage packages |
17:28.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
17:28.30 | kerio | fuckin HAM |
17:28.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless they are pulled in as dependency |
17:29.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | or you put HAM into red-pill mode, aiui |
17:29.47 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: which is removed from ham since pr1.2 (or 1.3) |
17:29.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, are you 'old enough' to know red-pill? |
17:30.01 | kerio | huh, i am |
17:30.05 | kerio | and i had my first n900 in pr1.2 |
17:30.10 | kerio | \_o_/ |
17:30.16 | kerio | anyway, you also need to tell HAM to show all packages |
17:30.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: I thought pali recently re-introdiuced it |
17:30.36 | kerio | which is what brings the time apt-worker takes to do his things from 4 minutes to 15 minutes, for me |
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17:45.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: how it feels @home again? |
17:45.21 | merlin1991 | not as hot :D |
17:45.25 | merlin1991 | but my pc is broken :/ |
17:45.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeeew! :-/ |
17:46.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: we need to clean up the mess in ke-recv: http://pastebin.ca/2200289 |
17:47.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-02 17:13:25] <DocScrutinizer05> http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line149 OOOUUUUUCH!http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line168 http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line176 HOLY SPAGHETTI MONSTER W*T*F?! |
18:03.34 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, could a hexedited image-viewer be distributed by cssu? |
18:03.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | why not? |
18:04.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | afaik we already distribute a hexedited libsms.so |
18:06.35 | kerio | to do what? :o |
18:06.41 | kerio | also, can't we do the same for fmtxd? |
18:08.04 | luf | merlin1991: sure anybody could use it. |
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18:14.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: your most hated CBSMS oppername applet |
18:14.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | basing on patched libsms.so |
18:14.33 | kerio | D: |
18:14.45 | kerio | i see |
18:14.57 | kerio | btw, the current one in -devel hasn't shown the problem again |
18:15.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you wanna say "WFM"? |
18:15.30 | kerio | i wanna say "i forgive you" |
18:15.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe |
18:15.37 | kerio | but i'm still not sure the bug was fixed |
18:15.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | I feel with and like you |
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18:44.36 | illuminata | cssu was a success. the afternoon dilemma is over it seems |
18:45.16 | illuminata | thanks for all the help |
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18:49.48 | kerio | illuminata: yay |
18:52.21 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: I am not the original author of the spaghetti code ;) |
18:52.45 | freemangordon | there was a patch on the bugtracker, I just applied it |
18:53.05 | freemangordon | but actually code is not that bad, i LIKE goto |
18:53.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | duuuude! |
18:53.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://pastebin.ca/2200289 |
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18:54.30 | freemangordon | hehe |
18:54.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
18:55.02 | freemangordon | I am not saying it can't be done much better :p |
18:55.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I#m iindeed feeling great relief it's not your crime |
18:56.41 | freemangordon | well, the cases I use backward goto are rare, for example if some counter needs to be reset or such |
18:57.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
18:57.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | a SHOULD NOT case |
18:57.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~2119 |
18:57.17 | infobot | The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119. |
18:57.28 | freemangordon | but usually it leads to much clear an simple code than ifs needed to achieve the same |
18:58.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure, there's exactly one accepted usecase for goto: goto error (forward) |
18:59.35 | freemangordon | well, I disagree, as i indeed like it, there are cases when backward goto saves a lot of code. But agree it should be used with caution |
19:00.00 | freemangordon | and only once :D |
19:00.29 | freemangordon | not 3 times in a row |
19:01.21 | freemangordon | https://bugs.maemo.org/8904 |
19:01.23 | povbot | Bug 8904: Memory card name changes to "mmc-undefined-name" after a couple of days |
19:02.55 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: Andrew Zabolotny |
19:03.05 | freemangordon | whoever is that guy |
19:07.18 | freemangordon | kerio: btw what is your question about ke-recv? |
19:07.35 | kerio | freemangordon: "how the hell does it work?" |
19:07.45 | kerio | specifically, how do i trigger the automounter? |
19:07.54 | kerio | ke-recv-test e /dev/mmcblk1 didn't work |
19:08.00 | freemangordon | you don;t need to trigger it manually |
19:08.18 | freemangordon | ke-recv-test? |
19:08.51 | freemangordon | what FS is mmcblk1? |
19:09.18 | freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ |
19:09.27 | kerio | mmcblk1p1 is vfat |
19:09.37 | kerio | mmcblk1p2 and mmcblk1p3 are linux swap, but they shouldn't be touched |
19:09.48 | kerio | freemangordon: another question: how do i choose what gets exported in ass rage mode? |
19:10.02 | freemangordon | well, is it /dev/mmcblk1 or /dev/mmcblk1p1? |
19:10.20 | kerio | because g_file_storage exports the whole of /dev/mmcblk1, which is kinda bad for me, because i *will* be using the swap in mmcblk1p2 |
19:10.25 | kerio | freemangordon: neither worked |
19:10.35 | kerio | "ke-recv-test e" should be "check device" |
19:10.44 | kerio | not sure which kind of check |
19:11.23 | freemangordon | kerio: something is broken there, I use swap partition on SD card and have no problem with seeing vfat partition in PC |
19:11.54 | kerio | freemangordon: i see the vfat partition on pc |
19:11.57 | kerio | but i also see the other two |
19:11.59 | kerio | which is... bad |
19:12.37 | freemangordon | well, it is not ke-rcv to balme |
19:12.42 | freemangordon | *blame |
19:13.45 | freemangordon | I am not dure what will happen if g_file_storage gets /dev/mmcblk1p1 as backing stoeage |
19:13.50 | freemangordon | *storage |
19:13.59 | freemangordon | WTF is wring with me :( |
19:14.34 | freemangordon | seems there is no way to write without typos today, sorry :) |
19:16.13 | freemangordon | kerio: actually it is logical(and better) to see the whole SD card when connected to PC, not only the first VFAT partition |
19:16.24 | kerio | hell naw |
19:16.28 | freemangordon | hell yes |
19:16.37 | kerio | much like it's awful that the PC sees the whole emmc instead of just mydocs |
19:17.06 | freemangordon | no, it is different, SD card is removable storage |
19:17.14 | kerio | well, not on my system |
19:17.14 | kerio | so |
19:17.17 | kerio | how do i configure this? |
19:17.40 | freemangordon | imagine you want to dd an image to your SD card |
19:17.48 | freemangordon | configure what? |
19:18.00 | kerio | configure what gets exported in MSM |
19:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I friggin wonder how swap might be used when same time it's exported assrage |
19:18.12 | kerio | freemangordon: imagine what happens if something else writes to the swap partition |
19:18.22 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: kernel magick |
19:18.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui ass rage umounts all |
19:18.46 | freemangordon | swap is not mounted aiui |
19:18.59 | kerio | swap does not count as mounted, it's just "in use" in some way by the kernel |
19:19.46 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: notice that i don't know if the pc can actually write to it |
19:20.01 | kerio | i have good reasons not to try, obviously |
19:22.15 | freemangordon | well, I wonder what will happen if only the partition (i.e. not MBR) gets exported |
19:22.30 | freemangordon | most probably a mess |
19:28.31 | kerio | freemangordon: huh? |
19:28.34 | kerio | why? |
19:28.39 | kerio | it's the same as MyDocs |
19:29.02 | kerio | it's not a fake MBR, it's just a single partition |
19:29.09 | freemangordon | yeah, might be I am wrong. |
19:29.09 | kerio | it's a bit weird, but not too much |
19:30.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I actually thought uSD would get exported exactly same way |
19:30.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | only first partiton, if more than one exist |
19:30.57 | kerio | i thought so too |
19:30.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno why I thought that |
19:31.33 | freemangordon | me too, but it does not make sense, tell me how you are going to use dd, fdisk, etc if only firs VFAT partition is exported |
19:31.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe somebody should check on stock freemantle |
19:32.06 | kerio | freemangordon: by... removing the uSD and doing that on a card reader? |
19:32.08 | freemangordon | the whole device gets exported |
19:32.16 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ |
19:32.29 | freemangordon | no change here |
19:32.31 | kerio | besides, you need the appropriate ioctl() call to make the kernel reread the partition table |
19:32.44 | kerio | so you can't fdisk properly anyway |
19:33.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, does a plain partiton export differ from a whole device export when the whole device is formatted superfloppy? |
19:33.25 | freemangordon | kerio: you can force partition table re-read by simply removing the backcover |
19:33.33 | kerio | ... |
19:33.41 | kerio | SO GET THE CARD OUT AND USE A CARD READER |
19:33.44 | kerio | ffs |
19:34.10 | freemangordon | kerio: well, I don't have card reader, but have 2 n900s :P |
19:34.31 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: there is no change to the behaviour compared to stock |
19:34.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | checked? |
19:35.08 | freemangordon | I am using swap on uSD for 2 years or so. Partitioned through PC |
19:35.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, fair enough |
19:35.55 | kerio | freemangordon: and you open your backcover like that? |
19:35.56 | kerio | :s |
19:36.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: "opening backover" might work via ke-recv-test |
19:37.01 | freemangordon | kerio: the use cases for exporting the whole device are much wider than exporting a single VFAT partition only. for example you may have one vfat visible in every OS, and one EXTx, visible in linux |
19:37.19 | kerio | freemangordon: that's why i asked for a way to configure it |
19:37.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn, I looked into precisely all that some 6..12 months ago, can't recall a single detail |
19:37.39 | freemangordon | how the hell you will copy data to that EXTx partition? through wireless? |
19:37.49 | MrPingu | Removing backover is insta-reboot because swap got unmounted |
19:37.58 | kerio | MrPingu: not quite instant |
19:37.59 | freemangordon | MrPingu: only if active |
19:38.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
19:38.34 | MrPingu | While I don't have swap on eMMC enabled ;p |
19:38.37 | kerio | freemangordon: sshfs/nfs/whateverfs over usb networking, for instance |
19:38.53 | freemangordon | kerio: you are aware USB networking is 1.1? |
19:38.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | wait, there been some syscall to make kernel re-read partition table? |
19:39.04 | kerio | freemangordon: usb networking is what? |
19:39.06 | freemangordon | sfdisk -R or something |
19:39.12 | freemangordon | kerio: USB 1.1 |
19:39.12 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: sure, the thing fdisk does when you write |
19:39.15 | kerio | freemangordon: o rly |
19:39.22 | freemangordon | afaik |
19:39.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | wut? |
19:39.46 | freemangordon | it is not USB 2.0 |
19:39.50 | freemangordon | try it |
19:39.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | FFS |
19:40.02 | kerio | i distinctly remember getting a fuckload of MB/s |
19:40.12 | kerio | besides, g_ether is better anyway |
19:40.13 | freemangordon | ssh? |
19:40.22 | kerio | just the connection |
19:40.31 | kerio | with nc |
19:40.37 | kerio | send zeros from one side, discard them on the other |
19:40.51 | kerio | hrmpf, i can't retest now |
19:40.57 | kerio | because otherwise i'd lose VDQ |
19:41.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I got some 12..14MB/s which is way beyond the max of 12Mb/s of usb1.1 |
19:41.09 | freemangordon | well, AFAIK g_ether is not USB 2.0 |
19:41.20 | kerio | then maybe g_nokia is better |
19:41.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | in ass rage mode |
19:41.43 | freemangordon | g_noika is 2.0 AFAIK |
19:41.44 | kerio | i wonder if pali's patch to automatically enable usb networking in pc suite mode is already in -devel |
19:41.48 | kerio | freemangordon: then use g_nokia |
19:41.51 | kerio | no biggie |
19:41.59 | freemangordon | kerio: under XP? |
19:42.11 | kerio | no, we're trying to write to an ext3 partition |
19:42.18 | kerio | so linux :) |
19:42.34 | freemangordon | but it is not exported anywa, so it does not matter |
19:42.38 | freemangordon | :P |
19:42.52 | kerio | there's nothing exported, we're trying to work around it |
19:42.53 | freemangordon | whatever |
19:43.28 | freemangordon | the way it is now, is compatible with all of the OSes around, in HS mode |
19:43.34 | kerio | nope |
19:43.47 | kerio | i can't write to an ext3 partition from xp |
19:43.56 | freemangordon | are you sure? |
19:44.28 | kerio | if we allow using third-party software then there's no reason usb networking via g_nokia shouldn't be allowed too |
19:45.13 | freemangordon | kerio: I am missing your point, really. You want us to remove functionality because you have some special use case? |
19:45.35 | kerio | I WANT IT TO BE CONFIGURABLE SO I CAN CHANGE IT FROM THE DEFAULT WHICH IS HOW IT IS AND HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TO BETTER FIT MY NEEDS |
19:45.36 | freemangordon | The functionality tha exists in stock fremantle |
19:45.44 | freemangordon | then file a bug dammit |
19:46.02 | freemangordon | and stop shouting, ok? |
19:46.24 | kerio | OK, FRIEND! |
19:46.49 | freemangordon | seems your capslock has stuck |
19:46.57 | kerio | was joking |
19:47.19 | freemangordon | was not |
19:47.25 | freemangordon | really, file a bug |
19:47.46 | kerio | i just filed a bug! |
19:47.53 | kerio | right here! |
19:48.17 | freemangordon | no, the place to file a bug is on the bugtracker ;) |
19:52.55 | kerio | i'll just wait for pali |
19:52.58 | kerio | he's much nicer to me :c |
19:53.18 | kerio | oh pali, where art thou |
19:53.49 | freemangordon | he has exams, so don't hold your breath :P |
19:54.12 | kerio | pff, lack of commitment |
19:54.17 | kerio | i have two exams this month |
19:54.22 | freemangordon | you'll have to deal with the evil freemangordon :D |
19:54.22 | kerio | but am i studying? |
19:54.28 | kerio | no, i'm slacking off on irc |
19:55.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | shut up, kids! |
19:56.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
19:56.36 | kerio | but we're bored! |
19:56.40 | kerio | tell us a story, uncle scrutinizer! |
19:57.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sep 2 21:56:26 halebop kernel: [2666849.686045] usb 2-2: new high speed USB device number 15 using ehci_hcd |
19:57.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sep 2 21:56:26 halebop kernel: [2666849.803102] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0421, idProduct=01c7 |
19:57.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sep 2 21:56:26 halebop kernel: [2666849.803105] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 |
19:57.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sep 2 21:56:26 halebop kernel: [2666849.803107] usb 2-2: Product: N900 (Storage Mode) |
19:58.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | new **high** speed USB device |
19:58.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | storage mode |
20:01.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | halebop:/home/jr/Dokumente/downloads/hplip # lsusb -vd 0421:01c7 |
20:01.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | Bus 002 Device 015: ID 0421:01c7 Nokia Mobile Phones N900 (Storage Mode) |
20:01.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | ... |
20:01.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
20:01.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | so much for ass rage is usb1.1 |
20:02.49 | kerio | this story was boring |
20:02.58 | kerio | and freemangordon said g_ether was usb1.1 |
20:03.15 | kerio | not g_file_storage |
20:06.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | now THIS story is boring |
20:07.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-09-02 21:38:53] <freemangordon> kerio: you are aware USB networking is 1.1? |
20:07.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
20:07.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | is boring |
20:07.29 | kerio | but is it? i don't think so |
20:07.36 | kerio | g_nokia is faster than 1.1 |
20:07.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | I never ever used g_nokia or usb networking |
20:08.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | waaay too boring ;-P |
20:08.54 | kerio | usb networking is the shit |
20:09.14 | kerio | lagfree, phat throughput |
20:10.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | knetworkmanager sucks donleyballs though |
20:11.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I would've no internet on laptop when connecting to N900 via USB networking. Unbearable |
20:13.15 | kerio | wat |
20:13.16 | kerio | why? |
20:15.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | as soon as I activate PC suite mode, knetworkmanager grabs it and I can't manually config it any more |
20:15.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas knetworkmanager handles it as NIC |
20:15.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather usb-modem |
20:16.00 | kerio | hahahahahahah |
20:16.07 | kerio | try g_ether then |
20:16.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
20:16.17 | kerio | besides, the usb network card is a separate thing |
20:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe, but it already conflicts with normal network connectivity on KDE |
20:17.54 | kerio | damn, kde sucks |
20:18.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, currently knetworkmanager thinks there's NO NIC at all, so maybe worth another try, since the NIC this text is traveling over should be invisible and thus unaffected |
20:18.20 | kerio | oh lol |
20:18.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I probably been fed up and configured it as "on-boot" and "manual config" |
20:19.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh LOL, network manager not running, please start it |
20:20.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | incredible shit |
20:22.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sep 2 22:21:08 halebop dbus-daemon[996]: dbus[996]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.NetworkManager' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service' |
20:22.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sep 2 22:21:08 halebop dbus[996]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service': Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service' for details. |
20:22.40 | kerio | oh poetter |
20:22.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
20:22.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~poettering |
20:22.55 | infobot | 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'' |
20:23.22 | kerio | why did we get the pulseaudio dude to redesign init? |
20:24.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~lart systemd |
20:24.05 | infobot | overclocks systemd until systemd burns out |
20:24.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | can't be any hard |
20:24.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably already burned out since 3 days before initial release |
20:27.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | reason: no such file or directory |
20:28.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | POETTERING!!!!! WHICH FUCKING no such file??? |
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20:35.29 | dimir | EHLO! |
20:35.57 | dimir | Recently GSM module on my n900 stopped working. |
20:36.34 | dimir | It throws the message "All telephony functions, including emergency calls, are disabled due to a communication error. To recover, you might have to reboot the device." |
20:36.39 | dimir | The well-known error. |
20:37.02 | kerio | well, have you tried to reboot the device? |
20:37.03 | dimir | So at first it was appearing once a day or something, reboot was fixing that. |
20:37.05 | kerio | :) |
20:37.29 | dimir | It then started to happen more and more often until recently reboots stopped helping completely. |
20:37.44 | kerio | dimir: btw, why is this related to CSSU? |
20:37.53 | dimir | I have followed the threads on maemo forum, like this one: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60881 |
20:37.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, yeah. fatal :.{ |
20:38.04 | freemangordon | maybe he has a solution and wants to share it |
20:38.09 | dimir | Nop.e |
20:38.12 | dimir | damn. |
20:38.36 | kerio | :c |
20:38.37 | dimir | The thread suggests some reflashing otherwise it's h/w problem. |
20:38.48 | dimir | But it seems there were lots of people having such problem. |
20:38.55 | dimir | The thread is of year 2009 though. |
20:38.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | most common fatal hw defect |
20:39.22 | dimir | I was wondering if you know of recent solutions, or things that might be causing this. |
20:39.35 | dimir | Or maybe this is known to be fixed in recent images. |
20:39.41 | dimir | oh man. |
20:39.45 | dimir | I so hope it's not h/w. |
20:39.54 | dimir | I'm already using CSSU btw. |
20:39.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems there's been the typical bathtub curve for many early failures then after a few years of 'silence' slow increase of same problem again |
20:40.39 | dimir | Ah man. |
20:40.56 | dimir | But I just wanted to consult here before I go for a reflash. |
20:41.19 | dimir | I mean, it seems there are some reports that reflashing in this kind of state of the phone bricks it. |
20:41.39 | dimir | It's functional properly, all except the GSM module. |
20:41.48 | dimir | I mean, wi-fi, etc. all works properly. |
20:42.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems a chip or soldering problem with modem itself |
20:42.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | some users even can make it come and go by pressing a particular key on hw kbd |
20:42.48 | dimir | So, perhaps taking it to the service could be a good idea? |
20:43.04 | dimir | Right. |
20:43.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | reflow soldering the modem chip *might* help |
20:43.29 | dimir | Could be a soldering problem, that'd explain why the problem was first occasional and then going more and more often. |
20:43.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, soldering or bonding |
20:43.47 | dimir | I just am too afraid to do that myself. :-D |
20:44.04 | kerio | nokia don't care |
20:44.07 | kerio | nokia don't give a fuck |
20:44.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | better let it do somebody with proper hot air reflow workstation |
20:44.12 | dimir | sure. |
20:44.27 | kerio | they'll give you a lumia 900 |
20:44.34 | kerio | i mean, the number is the same! |
20:44.45 | kerio | or maybe a n8 |
20:44.50 | kerio | which you can sell to buy another n900 on ebay |
20:44.57 | dimir | DocScrutinizer05: so you mean, find the scheme of the phone to locate the modem and take it to a friend that can solder and bond? |
20:45.04 | dimir | kerio: :-D |
20:45.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | nobody can bond |
20:45.21 | dimir | kerio: yeah, already was checking some n900-s on eBay. :-) |
20:45.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | bonding is inside chip |
20:45.28 | dimir | oh crap. |
20:45.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | those hair thin gold wires |
20:45.50 | dimir | oooh. |
20:46.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | but you can try reflow |
20:46.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka 'soldering' |
20:46.29 | kerio | what's reflow? |
20:46.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki reflow |
20:46.50 | kerio | i see |
20:47.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | hot air reflow in this case |
20:47.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | needs quite some experience to do it right |
20:47.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | and the proper tools |
20:48.01 | dimir | You mean this can be done at home? |
20:48.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | not really, unless you got a SMT rework station aka hot air / IR reflow soldering station |
20:48.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | some freaks try it in oven |
20:49.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | but it usually kills the whole device |
20:49.16 | kerio | it works with x360s! |
20:49.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | you need proper temperature to +/-5°C |
20:50.10 | dimir | yeah. |
20:50.20 | dimir | Thanks for the info! |
20:50.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | and even then it's not really guaranteed a completely assembled PCB will survive reflow |
20:50.32 | dimir | I wonder though, if there is a scheme of the pcb available? |
20:50.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
20:50.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
20:50.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | check wiki |
20:51.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are links to places for download |
20:55.37 | dimir | Nokia_N900_RX-51_Service_Manual_L1L2_v1_0.pdf ? |
20:57.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | also helps, yeah |
20:58.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually to be found 2in same directory" as the schematics.pdf |
20:58.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/2/"/ |
21:01.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | dimir: you also might find this helpful: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/ |
21:02.14 | dimir | DocScrutinizer05: thanks! |
21:03.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | dimir: pnatd in a terminal may tell if modem is showing *any* life: AT<enter> should answer OK |
21:04.35 | kerio | yeah, if the modem can't answer "AT" then it's as toast as it can get |
21:05.56 | dimir | DocScrutinizer05: should I run pnatd as root? |
21:05.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes |
21:06.32 | dimir | Nope, it's not even printing what I type |
21:06.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and don't bother to quit the command, you can't (except with "killall pnatd" from other shell) |
21:06.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | not rpinting what you type is 'normal' |
21:06.47 | dimir | yeah, I figured that. |
21:06.54 | dimir | OK. |
21:07.03 | dimir | So I type in AT<enter> but nothing happens. |
21:07.07 | dimir | I do that via ssh. |
21:07.11 | dimir | If that's OK. |
21:07.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | send it twice |
21:07.14 | dimir | OK. |
21:07.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | at<enter> |
21:07.35 | dimir | Ah, lower-case. |
21:07.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter |
21:08.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | just press enter key! |
21:08.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | not type <enter> |
21:08.09 | dimir | twice - does nothing too. |
21:08.12 | kerio | LOL |
21:08.15 | dimir | LUL |
21:08.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | though actually even then it should answer error |
21:08.27 | dimir | It just hangs there. |
21:08.32 | dimir | No output. |
21:08.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | RIP |
21:08.46 | dimir | Nice. |
21:09.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | try switching to airplane mode and back to normal |
21:09.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | then repeat AT |
21:09.26 | dimir | Just a sec. |
21:09.43 | dimir | I would need to take my ass off the couch. |
21:09.44 | dimir | :-D |
21:10.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually you *might* wnat to *remove* the SIM |
21:10.23 | dimir | It's not there. |
21:10.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | occasionally we seen modems crash on very corrupted SIM |
21:10.32 | dimir | I have it in a backup phone. |
21:10.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
21:11.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | place a ptch of carton or paper inside SIM holder, to make sure VDD isn't short to metal |
21:11.24 | dimir | didn't help. |
21:11.42 | dimir | Ah, alright. |
21:11.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | check syslog/dmesg |
21:12.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | grep for "cmt" (iirc) |
21:14.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | dimir: in dialer type "*#06#" |
21:14.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | should answer with notifier with your IMEI |
21:14.54 | dimir | nothing in dmesg and I don't have /var/log/syslog |
21:15.22 | dimir | IMEI: <empty> |
21:15.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | your modem is dead. So sorry for you |
21:15.40 | dimir | Oh man. |
21:16.03 | dimir | So, you are sure reflashing won't help? |
21:16.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | a reflash never can hurt, it *might* fix a cmt firmware that for whatever reasons got corrupted |
21:16.21 | kerio | na`vi is winning ^_^ |
21:16.42 | kerio | dimir: didn't the people in the forums report bricking after reflash? |
21:16.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | odds are 1000:1 against that |
21:17.10 | dimir | kerio: just a couple. :-) |
21:17.24 | kerio | do it |
21:17.28 | dimir | DocScrutinizer05: OK, do you mean full reflash? |
21:17.32 | kerio | backup the important data though |
21:17.36 | dimir | yeah. |
21:17.38 | dimir | Sure. |
21:17.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, you can't brick a N900 by flashing |
21:17.40 | kerio | dimir: in theory, the stuff on the emmc doesn't really matter |
21:17.55 | dimir | kerio: OK. |
21:17.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly |
21:18.07 | kerio | but meh, i always full reflash |
21:18.07 | dimir | So, just a rootfs? |
21:18.09 | kerio | just 'cause |
21:18.14 | dimir | Ah, right. |
21:18.37 | dimir | So, any link to the latest CSSU image? |
21:18.44 | kerio | there isn't one :c |
21:18.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | no such thing |
21:18.52 | kerio | you need to install pr 1.3 and then upgrade to cssu |
21:18.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | PR1.3 is latest |
21:19.06 | dimir | Ah, OK. |
21:19.12 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: why, though? |
21:19.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn, kerio faster than me |
21:19.16 | dimir | I think I had it somewhere. |
21:19.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: because nobody bothered to fiascogen a CSSU image? |
21:20.08 | kerio | is it even possible? :o |
21:20.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd guess it is |
21:20.27 | kerio | i mean, nokia managed to do it |
21:20.34 | kerio | so it's definetely possible |
21:20.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | though fiascogen is closed source... so :-S |
21:20.38 | kerio | but is it feasible to do? |
21:21.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, there are custom fisco images |
21:21.07 | kerio | neat |
21:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st did one with BM, NIN101 did a rescue image afaik |
21:21.40 | kerio | nin101's is weirder, though |
21:21.44 | kerio | because you're supposed to just load it |
21:21.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter |
21:21.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | still a fisco image |
21:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | google for fiascogen |
21:22.30 | kerio | i don't want to open pandora's jar |
21:24.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=74121 |
21:24.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have used it successfully to make a flashable image for the NAND memory. By combining a rootfs image and a kernel image in one fiasco image with: |
21:24.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Code: |
21:24.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | fiasco-gen -g -k kernelImage -r rootfsImage -o myOwnFiasco.bin |
21:25.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can flash this image to the N900 with: |
21:25.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | Code: |
21:25.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | flasher-3.5 -F myOwnFiasco.bin -f -R |
21:38.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | DANG! there's a armel fiaco-gen pkg!!! |
21:39.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | so BM might *finally* learn to create proper self-containing fiasco images |
21:39.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | incl kernel and all \o/ |
21:40.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | could even create a shellscript for x86 that even contains flasher-3.5 |
21:40.37 | dimir | And you can finally say taa-taa to Nookia? |
21:40.54 | dimir | Completely I mean. :-) |
21:41.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | BM "create full fiasco". ass rage copy BMfiasco_2012-09-02.sh to PC. In case of desaster just run it in shell |
21:42.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | or store to uSD in N900. In case swap uSD to PC and run BMfiasco_2012-09-02.sh to restore |
21:43.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen robbiethe1st |
21:43.06 | infobot | robbiethe1st is currently on #maemo (1h 15m 32s), last said: 'yeah'. |
21:43.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey!!! |
21:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | dimir: |
21:49.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing |
21:49.41 | infobot | it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
21:50.03 | dimir | DocScrutinizer05: cheers. |
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22:48.12 | dimir | Flashing didn't help. |
22:48.37 | dimir | And at the end of the flashing (as I saw others reported) there was a message: CMT flashing failed |
22:48.52 | dimir | Like: |
22:48.53 | dimir | [...] |
22:48.55 | dimir | Flashing kernel... done. |
22:48.56 | dimir | Sending and flashing rootfs image (185728 kB)... |
22:48.56 | dimir | 100% (185728 of 185728 kB, avg. 13632 kB/s) |
22:48.58 | dimir | Finishing flashing... done |
22:49.00 | dimir | CMT flashing failed |
22:49.13 | dimir | But it boots and functions as previously. |
22:52.08 | dimir | ~repository |
22:57.30 | ShadowJK | does dmesg have stuff about cmt rst rq |
23:00.27 | SpacedOut | luf: DocScrutinizer05 :The events.db trigger hack to populate the call durations only works for one call at a time. I have a package minutemonitor that can handle multiple. If the triggers get autoinstalled I don't want them. |
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23:48.30 | merlin1991 | luf: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/rtcom-eventlogger-async |