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00:01.03 | jessi3k3 | any CSSU devs/maintainers on? |
00:04.06 | jessi3k3 | If anyone has the chance please see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85786 regarding possibly adding more QT libs |
00:19.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | jessi3k3: CSSU is not about adding stuff. You can do that yourself a nytime |
00:20.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | CSSU isn't the "reader's digest" of available pkgs |
00:22.10 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I think the issue here is that some libs which are part of the qt4 sources are not built |
00:22.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I admit it for sure would be helping for many users to have such a list of tested&aproved pkgs |
00:22.20 | merlin1991 | though I'd have to look for myself to see if that's the case |
00:22.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: oh, then I can go to sleep ;-D |
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00:34.58 | jessi3k3 | merlin1991: Yes, I think that is the case, at least in terms of built QT libraries vs available packages. Is this not the correct place to inquire since CSSU maintains and updates QT? If so I can add the said package and libraries myself but I am not sure how they would conflict with the 'official' qt libraries already there or if I would have such authority. |
00:36.25 | merlin1991 | jessi3k3: it depends on if the libs you're missing were part of the original rootfs, or only shipped via extras, in the first case we have to adjust our build, in the 2nd we're pretty much fucked |
00:37.00 | merlin1991 | but currently I can't look into it more, but I'll find the time tomorrow and see what we have todo |
00:38.07 | jessi3k3 | It seems that libQtCLucene was not part of the original rootfs libraries since it's not available as a package on any of the repos or on my device |
00:38.29 | merlin1991 | how did you build it? |
00:38.38 | jessi3k3 | libQtHelp is available in extras but has not been updated past 4.5.3 |
00:38.45 | jessi3k3 | I built in in scratchbox |
00:38.49 | jessi3k3 | armel |
00:38.52 | merlin1991 | from which sources? |
00:39.10 | jessi3k3 | I pulled the latest cssu-git-x11-qt, let me confirm the actual version |
00:39.27 | merlin1991 | did you have to adjust the config / rules file |
00:40.12 | jessi3k3 | I don't recall doing such thing, I just basically configured as is and installed |
00:40.32 | jessi3k3 | *configured and make |
00:40.50 | merlin1991 | so you ran configure yourself k |
00:41.02 | jessi3k3 | Since it's a hassle to set up CSSU in scratchbox, I made qt from source from the cssu-git |
00:41.49 | merlin1991 | it's not really a hassle, add the cssu armel repo and use apt-get ;) |
00:42.06 | merlin1991 | though I think in cssu-testing the sources for qt are missing |
00:42.19 | jessi3k3 | If that's the case, then the forums sure make it seem like it's the hardest thing in the world. That's what put me off |
00:42.26 | merlin1991 | anyway libQtHelp is also part of the qt4-x11 sources or are they built from different sources? |
00:43.31 | jessi3k3 | libqthelp should be from the qt4-x11 sources, it was in the build directory after It completed |
00:43.42 | jessi3k3 | that and libQtCLucene |
00:48.21 | merlin1991 | so both are from qt4-x11? |
00:48.29 | merlin1991 | then we can make a new build and include those |
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07:40.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991: if we are going to push a new Qt there is this https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/commit/38bff748f635ff4e4035dcc238aa7ab66839c5eb I want in master |
07:42.30 | Pali | freemangordon, modest from cssu-devel not working |
07:43.01 | freemangordon | hmm, it should be the same as in -testing |
07:43.21 | freemangordon | Pali: changelog? |
07:44.27 | Pali | I found that problem is in tinymail libraries |
07:44.27 | Pali | when I downgraded tinymail started working again |
07:44.27 | Pali | problem is: when I open modest, open my (gmail) account and click to send & receive it will not show unreaded mail count (for all folders) |
07:44.27 | Pali | also when I click on some unreaded mail it will not mark it as unread on server |
07:44.30 | Pali | also if I mark same mail from readed to unreaded it not mark it on server too |
07:45.09 | freemangordon | any clue which commit broke it? |
07:46.09 | Pali | ok, bad repositores: I dongraded from thumb to devel |
07:46.15 | Pali | thumb version is not working |
07:46.17 | Pali | devel is ok |
07:46.20 | kerio | D: |
07:46.31 | kerio | oh, whew, he's talking about modest |
07:47.08 | Pali | apt-cache policy show me that in -devel and -testing is same version |
07:47.19 | Pali | and in -thumb is version with thumb suffix |
07:47.20 | freemangordon | Pali: WFM |
07:47.44 | tadzik | hrm, my phone-ui stopped rotating to portrait :/ |
07:47.59 | freemangordon | clicking gmail account shows me that I have 10 unread messages in my inbox |
07:48.20 | Pali | freemangordon, not for inbox but for other folders |
07:48.39 | Pali | I have filters which move some emails from inbox to other folders automatically |
07:48.39 | freemangordon | changing a message to unread in inbox makes its color blue |
07:48.47 | tadzik | or rather it rotates in “expose mode”, but goes back to portrait when I maximize |
07:49.09 | Pali | freemangordon, try to mark some message in Gmail sent mails as unread |
07:49.19 | Pali | and check if it will be unread on gmail web |
07:49.27 | freemangordon | well, i have 2 unread in sent mail |
07:49.56 | freemangordon | marked, it turned blue, now I have 3 unread |
07:50.13 | freemangordon | on gmail web? |
07:50.16 | freemangordon | ok, lemme check |
07:50.34 | Pali | it mark me blue on modest, but not on www.gmail.com |
07:53.20 | freemangordon | Pali: I have an yellow tick on the left side of the message i marked as unread |
07:53.32 | freemangordon | i suspect that means unread |
07:57.33 | Pali | hm, I will try to install tinymail thumb packages again... |
07:57.45 | freemangordon | Pali: i've just changed an item in "Send Items", did "send and receive" and it changed to unread on mail.google.com |
07:58.04 | freemangordon | cannot reproduce it here |
07:58.42 | Pali | freemangordon, try this: open modest click on your account, then send & receive. wait 1min and on www.gmail.com mark some message as unread in sent folder |
07:58.51 | Pali | and then click again in modest on send & receive |
07:59.04 | Pali | but do not open any folder in modest |
07:59.12 | freemangordon | aah, you mean te opposite |
07:59.15 | freemangordon | ok, lemme try |
07:59.37 | Pali | stay in account window! |
07:59.59 | Pali | and check if sent folder will have +1 string |
08:02.14 | freemangordon | no change |
08:02.31 | freemangordon | well, i'll recompilt it it newer toolchain and will try |
08:02.39 | Pali | ok |
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08:27.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
08:33.54 | jonwil | Is there someone here who can help me get the latest version of operator-name-cbs-widget into cssu-devel? |
08:39.51 | Pali | jownil, my patches are already in css-devel |
08:40.07 | Pali | I pushed it some days ago |
08:40.27 | Pali | jonwil, I fixed problem with that custom operator widget |
08:41.06 | jonwil | I pushed a patch to git the other day |
08:41.14 | jonwil | Saturday |
08:41.32 | jonwil | "Fix some bugs. Add support for custom operator names." |
08:41.52 | jonwil | that was done after talking to doc about things |
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08:42.52 | Pali | jonwil, I pushed it 19.7: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/o/operator-name-cbs-widget/ |
08:43.25 | LaoLang_coo_ | is chating in xchat on N900 ,p |
08:43.32 | LaoLang_coo_ | seems ok |
08:43.56 | LaoLang_coo_ | oh, wrong channel, sorry... |
08:44.17 | jonwil | my change was made 29 july |
08:44.30 | jonwil | so whatever you pushed doesn't contain my latest patch |
08:44.49 | jonwil | this commit |
08:44.51 | jonwil | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget/commit/da997b96cb31b7ba934ae613bed776b73ca6a5de |
08:45.30 | jonwil | If what you pushed contains anything different to what was in git before my commit, I dont have that |
08:45.32 | jonwil | and need it |
08:46.09 | jonwil | I would like to know just what you pushed then :) |
08:48.47 | jonwil | pali? |
08:49.15 | Pali | jonwil, it is in my cloned git branch |
08:49.20 | jonwil | ok |
08:50.08 | Pali | jonwil, see merge reguest: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget/merge_requests/1 |
08:56.15 | jonwil | If you could grab the changes from my patch and mix them with the changes from your branch, that would be good |
08:56.27 | jonwil | and then push the result to cssu-* as appropriate |
08:58.28 | jonwil | then we can merge things into one repo and go from there :) |
09:02.02 | jonwil | Not sure about removing the logging checkboxes though, does it hurt anyone to leave them there? |
09:09.12 | Pali | jonwil, I think that debug options should not be in release version |
09:09.34 | jonwil | hmmm yeah I guess so |
09:09.51 | Pali | gconf keys still working... I do not see reason why normal users should be able to enable some logs... |
09:10.05 | Pali | logs which are useless for them |
09:10.12 | jonwil | true |
09:10.27 | Pali | ok, I'm going to merge branches and push changes to masterä |
09:10.57 | jonwil | ok, do that |
09:16.55 | Pali | jonwil, seems that in your commit, you reformated LF and CRLF |
09:17.13 | jonwil | hmmm if I did it was unintentional |
09:17.32 | Pali | I'm not able to do git merge... |
09:17.56 | Pali | I rebase your commit on top of my |
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09:25.17 | jonwil | ok |
09:32.54 | Pali | jonwil, done: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-operator-name-cbs-widget |
09:33.00 | Pali | test if everything working |
09:33.47 | Pali | if yes, then need to: git push --force |
09:35.07 | jonwil | ok, so what do I do to merge that with my master? |
09:35.28 | jonwil | grab it from git and push? |
09:35.33 | jonwil | or what? |
09:35.44 | Pali | jonwil, merging is not possible |
09:35.57 | jonwil | ok, then what do I do? |
09:36.06 | kerio | ^___^ everyone is here! |
09:36.07 | jonwil | to make that tree the new master? |
09:36.10 | Pali | first check if version from my git repo working |
09:36.20 | jonwil | ok, then what?> |
09:36.36 | Pali | and then need to rewrite git HEAD |
09:36.46 | Pali | git push --force can do that |
09:37.18 | Pali | it will overwrite git commits in target branch |
09:37.33 | Pali | jonwil, I can do that |
09:37.46 | jonwil | ok, please do that then |
09:38.11 | jonwil | do whatever is necessary so that https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pali-operator-name-cbs-widget/ contains the latest code |
09:38.21 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
09:38.25 | jonwil | And then if you could push some packages to cssu-devel that would be nice |
09:38.37 | Pali | jonwil, ok |
09:38.51 | Pali | jownil, first I need to know if code from my git branch is compileable |
09:38.58 | freemangordon | zeq1: anyway, merlin1991 is not here too :D |
09:39.04 | zeq1 | lol |
09:39.31 | Pali | jonwil, I did not started sctrachbox, I only done some git magic |
09:39.43 | freemangordon | zeq1: well, he'll appear, that's for sure |
09:39.44 | jonwil | ok |
09:40.04 | jonwil | yes the code in your git repo is fine |
09:40.13 | zeq1 | I need to get off myself, I'll have my N900, but I'll be busy, will respond S.L.O.W.L.Y... |
09:40.31 | freemangordon | yeah, i need to go afk too |
09:41.00 | zeq1 | coffee first though |
09:41.05 | kerio | <zeq1> I need to get off |
09:41.07 | kerio | TMI |
09:41.27 | zeq1 | kerio: bye |
09:41.53 | kerio | bye ;) |
09:42.10 | zeq1 | that was quite a strange way of putting it :D |
09:45.23 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: why test program is not enough to prove that? |
09:46.10 | freemangordon | if it behaves according to comment #6, then I think it is proved that pselect is broken in stock kernel |
09:46.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | prove what? |
09:46.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep |
09:46.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | absolutely |
09:46.38 | freemangordon | I answered to you post on #maemo |
09:46.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | ?nod? |
09:47.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | :nod: even |
09:47.28 | jonwil | pali: let me know when the master has been updated :) |
09:47.32 | freemangordon | now, we need someone with stock kernel. |
09:47.43 | freemangordon | anyone running on stock kernel here? |
09:47.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | just pretty please paste the session log and a pointer to source and comment6 |
09:48.27 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: i need to reflash, both devices I have are on -thumb. So I will try to find someone else to do it |
09:48.29 | jonwil | i.e. when https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget/ contains the latest code :P |
09:49.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | I will |
09:49.21 | freemangordon | do you want a binary? |
09:49.31 | jonwil | guess pali went away :P |
09:49.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep |
09:49.49 | freemangordon | ok, gimme a couple of minutes |
09:50.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | no hurries, I'm afk for next 9h |
09:50.23 | freemangordon | :) ok |
09:53.07 | Pali | jonwil, done. now you need to do: git clone |
09:53.33 | jonwil | ok, so I clone your repo and push it to the master? |
09:53.55 | Pali | it is in master now |
09:53.58 | jonwil | ok |
09:54.05 | Pali | just clone master again |
09:54.34 | jonwil | ok |
09:55.02 | jonwil | thanks for that, can you push some packages for this to cssu-devel? |
09:56.07 | Pali | later when I power on qemu sdk image |
09:56.15 | jonwil | ok |
09:56.34 | Pali | jonwil, you do not have access to merlin server? |
09:57.19 | jonwil | no |
09:57.33 | jonwil | plus I dont want to power up my linux box right now just to build a couple of packages :P |
09:58.01 | Pali | ok, later ask merlin for it |
10:00.02 | freemangordon | Pali: are you sure modes does not behave in the same way in -devel? |
10:00.12 | freemangordon | *modest |
10:02.04 | Pali | freemangordon, I have only tinymail downgraded |
10:02.16 | freemangordon | the same |
10:02.40 | freemangordon | so, when you click on send/receive, the unread messages count is updated? |
10:02.48 | Pali | to version 1.1.92+1cssu4 |
10:03.37 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ |
10:04.08 | Pali | killed modest and testing... |
10:04.29 | freemangordon | I rebooted, just to be sure, will test again |
10:05.16 | Pali | yes working fine |
10:05.53 | Pali | when I upgraded tinymail to 1.1.92+1cssu4-thumb it stopped working |
10:08.48 | freemangordon | ok, going to install it (1.1.92+1cssu4) |
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10:58.46 | freemangordon | Pali: confirmed, seem newer toolchain optimizes something that should not be optimized, will try how it is when compiled without -mthumb |
10:59.06 | Pali | ok |
10:59.37 | freemangordon | the problem is in libtinymail-camel |
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11:23.55 | jonwil | Pali: ping |
11:24.04 | Pali | jonwil, pong |
11:24.44 | jonwil | I take it you are still waiting to hear back from the BME guys about the temperature stuff... |
11:25.40 | Pali | yes I still waiting... |
11:25.51 | jonwil | ok :) |
11:30.08 | jonwil | I am debating whether to try and ask some nokians (or ex-nokians) about the dbus stuff I need to know about like com.nokia.wps_ui... |
11:30.58 | Pali | jonwil, you can try |
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11:33.10 | Pali | freemangordon, this modest patch is alredy in cssu-devel and working without problem: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/merge_requests/13 |
11:33.23 | Pali | I will push it to modest master |
11:34.03 | freemangordon | Pali: ok, will pull in thumb-testing once I found the camel :D |
11:34.07 | freemangordon | *find |
11:36.56 | jonwil | now I just need to figure out how to track down the right email address(es) or other contacts for these people |
11:37.13 | jonwil | understanding finish names can be hard |
11:38.26 | jonwil | I can find lots of references to Janne Ylalehto at Nokia but no clue if that person is still at nokia or where they have gone... |
11:40.40 | Pali | jonwil open google |
11:40.50 | jonwil | yes? |
11:40.55 | Pali | try to find that name on some linux mailinglists |
11:41.13 | jonwil | all the references I find show that person with an @nokia address |
11:41.28 | Pali | try to sent to nokia address first |
11:42.57 | jonwil | ok, I found a linkedin profile for the same name that suggests that said person is still at Nokia |
11:43.38 | jonwil | now listed as a Windows Phone person |
11:44.38 | jonwil | worst that can happen is that the email bounces or I get no response or a "hey, sorry, I dont have that info anymore" response or something :) |
11:44.45 | jonwil | lets send a nice polite well-worded email |
11:47.39 | DocScrutinizer51 | hope you know how to do that ;-D |
11:47.54 | jonwil | I do know how to write well-worded emails |
11:48.22 | jonwil | I wrote this to someone else before |
11:48.24 | jonwil | http://pastebin.com/dXK8nRCx |
11:48.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | :-) |
11:48.28 | jonwil | and that is polite and well-woded |
11:48.36 | jonwil | or at least I think it is |
11:52.10 | DocScrutinizer51 | yep, it is :-) |
12:06.36 | jonwil | ok, 2 emails have been sent |
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12:11.41 | jonwil | now I just need to identify some wording I can use in my email asking about com.nokia.phone.sim.* to try and get information about that interface |
12:30.02 | jonwil | ok, good, 3 emails total now sent |
12:30.10 | jonwil | maybe I will shake some interesting information loose |
12:31.21 | jonwil | I am certainly more likely to get what I want than by not sending the emails :P |
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15:18.13 | freemangordon | Pali: something is fishy about libtinymail in -devel |
15:18.54 | freemangordon | by looking at the code modest should not refresh all of the folders unread count, but only INBOX |
15:20.40 | Pali | then it is bug, modest should refresh unread count for all folders |
15:20.56 | Pali | I know that modest inform about new email only in INBOX |
15:21.24 | Pali | I have started working on patch to show notification about all new emails (not only in INBOX) |
15:21.29 | Pali | but patch is not ready yet |
15:23.18 | freemangordon | hmmm |
15:23.37 | freemangordon | anyway, I am digging |
15:24.10 | zeq1 | freemangordon: I'm just off out, but somehow my testing was off earlier, it seems none of my libc builds with 4.7 resolved the locales problem. I'm sure the 4.2 build did work though... |
15:24.41 | freemangordon | bad |
15:25.32 | zeq1 | very bad |
15:26.12 | zeq1 | no idea if its a bug exposed by the compiler or a compiler bug at this point :( |
15:27.09 | zeq1 | could just use 4.2 to build it until this is resolved |
15:27.43 | freemangordon | yes, but you must not use thumb then |
15:27.58 | freemangordon | as thumb is broken in old toolchain |
15:28.03 | zeq1 | yup |
15:28.35 | freemangordon | anyway, as it is CSSU, you should not use thunb anyway :) |
15:28.41 | freemangordon | *thumb |
15:29.31 | zeq1 | Yes, realised that, going to build a cssu0 with 4.2 when I get back |
15:29.55 | freemangordon | ok |
15:30.37 | freemangordon | Pali: AIUI only inbox is refreshen on send/receive, the others are when you open them |
15:31.00 | freemangordon | NFC why it works with old gcc, going to check |
15:32.15 | merlin1991 | btw I'm here, there've been some highlights earlier today |
15:32.22 | Pali | freemangordon, when I last looked into modest mode (more then year ago) I remember that there is some linked list of all folders and there is some function which refresh first folder from list, remove from list and call that fucntion again with list |
15:33.08 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, if you point me to the code, I will owe you a beer |
15:33.21 | Pali | going to find my old patch... |
15:34.03 | freemangordon | as I am searchig for such iterator for the whole day, with no success |
15:34.11 | Pali | maybe this: function recurse_folders_async_cb in file src/modest-mail-operation.c |
15:35.03 | freemangordon | merlin1991: it is about a bug in libc and its fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/319729 |
15:35.10 | freemangordon | Pali: ok, will check |
15:36.22 | Pali | freemangordon, and function inbox_refreshed_cb it refresh folder (not only inbox!) |
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15:37.53 | Pali | merlin1991, do you know something new about maemo package interface? |
15:44.20 | Pali | freemangordon, maybe calling function tny_folder_poke_status update unread mail status |
15:45.19 | Pali | freemangordon, can you try to compile tinymail thumb first, then install these thumb tinymail libraries and then compile modest (to be sure that modest will compile agains tinymail thumb)? |
15:45.35 | freemangordon | Pali: already did |
15:45.39 | freemangordon | it compiles |
15:45.43 | Pali | ok |
15:46.10 | freemangordon | seems something overoptimized in response parsing |
16:16.05 | kerio | hm, why does the lens cover have to be open for the /front/ camera to work? |
16:23.09 | Pali | kerio, gpio switch |
16:24.40 | kerio | hm, "mirror" or whatever has no problems with it |
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16:28.59 | Pali | kerio, then some stupid nokia library... |
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16:52.45 | zeq | freemangordon: I'm not convinced there's anything special about the posix-locales pkg. I'm going to try generating them from the glibc build, I'm wondering if the locale cache is somehow compiler specific..? |
17:03.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | zeq: aiui the locales miss severl of the strings that are in cache |
17:03.33 | zeq | Anything we can't just replace? |
17:03.52 | zeq | this is annoying the hell out of me |
17:04.04 | zeq | :/ |
17:04.24 | DocScrutinizer51 | who knows |
17:04.40 | zeq | I'll see what happens (if it works at all) |
17:29.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | feierabend! |
17:50.29 | freemangordon | Sc0rpius: ping |
17:51.19 | freemangordon | hates when he is sick and his head feels empty :( |
17:57.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | freemangordon: :-/ |
18:04.41 | freemangordon | idly wonders how it is possible that modest works at all. Having in mind the severity of the bug he had just discovered. |
18:09.04 | Woody14619 | Wait, you're saying modest works? That's a pretty high complement IMHO... |
18:17.25 | freemangordon | hehe |
18:18.38 | freemangordon | no, really, i wonder what this guy has had in his mind while has been coding that |
18:18.52 | freemangordon | whoever he is |
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18:33.27 | kerio | hahaha |
18:33.28 | kerio | which bug? |
18:35.46 | freemangordon | Pali: ping |
18:35.55 | Pali | freemangordon, pong |
18:36.16 | freemangordon | Pali: would you check https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/tinymail/commit/1955bad9fa612e7313ad753726e8cda68f14d0a8 |
18:36.24 | freemangordon | I still cannot believe |
18:37.31 | Pali | what that doing? |
18:37.37 | Pali | or what is/was problem? |
18:37.44 | freemangordon | missing unread counts |
18:37.47 | freemangordon | yeah |
18:38.05 | freemangordon | the problem you reported |
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18:40.29 | Pali | ah, ok |
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19:05.09 | Pali | The best which I see today (in java): int total = Integer.valueOf("0"); |
19:05.36 | Pali | freemangordon, if modest is not as ^^^ then it is OK |
19:07.32 | kerio | Pali: do you know if cleven requires manual links in /opt for your reaver/wash package? |
19:07.43 | kerio | also, it should Provide wash >:) |
19:08.03 | Pali | kerio, reaver package contains both reaver and wash binares |
19:08.06 | Pali | as in debian |
19:08.32 | Pali | binaries are in standard path /usr/sbin/ |
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19:12.37 | kerio | Pali: /usr/bin actually |
19:12.44 | Pali | kerio, ok |
19:12.48 | Pali | it is in $PATH |
19:13.05 | Pali | so no problem |
19:13.13 | Pali | autobuilder should optify it |
19:14.05 | kerio | actually, problem |
19:14.27 | kerio | cleven is dumb and wants you to make links in /opt/cleven |
19:14.31 | kerio | :s |
19:18.46 | Pali | fix broken app... |
19:19.39 | Pali | cleven is open, contribute patch... |
19:19.54 | kerio | well, manually optification works fine in this case :) |
19:20.01 | kerio | *manual |
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20:35.48 | zeq | had to go lay down for a while... |
20:36.42 | zeq | It seems make localedata/install-locales creates a debian pkg structure |
20:36.50 | zeq | I had no idea. |
20:40.32 | zeq | btw it takes a very long time to generate locales running localedef under qemu! |
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21:35.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's "an app for that" (optification) |
21:35.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | comes per default with each maemo5 |
21:35.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | each semi-*recent* maemo5 |
21:38.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: I just sumbled across osso-backup-restore-locale, nfc what it does |
21:39.23 | zeq | ? |
21:40.07 | zeq | DocScrutinizer05: I'm trying to convince buildpackage to build the full locale cache |
21:40.47 | zeq | it does build a locale*.deb by default, but it contains very little. |
21:41.33 | kerio | would that fix the stupid thing where apt talks to me in english but it expects italian words at prompts? |
21:42.16 | zeq | kerio: that's possible, I've no idea what's contained in the binary blob locale pkg |
21:43.31 | zeq | as Doc mentioned earlier we might have some things missing. It's entirely possible there will be other things currently which currently are missing appear. |
21:45.26 | zeq | From what I can gather recent debian libc builds have a locales-all target in addition to locale which by default just builds a package for the (build-)system current locale, or so it seems. |
21:46.02 | kerio | zeq: would this end up in cssu-devel? |
21:46.07 | zeq | There *must* be a way of cleaning all this up |
21:46.16 | kerio | or is it cssu-extras material? |
21:46.38 | zeq | kerio: don't know where it will end up. |
21:47.20 | zeq | I'd quite like to have locale packages to install support for different lanaguages rather all or crypt symbols! |
21:47.31 | zeq | cryptic* |
21:48.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: maemo-optify-auto-opt.sh maemo-optify-firstboot.sh maemo-optify-make-mountbind.sh |
21:51.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: I juggled with all that shite some 2 years ago. My conclusion been it's not possible to do anything about it. IIRC the 'normal' locale dirs don't contain anything, it's all in that 23MB closed blob locale-cache |
21:51.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I tried to get rid of zc, ru, whatnot else |
21:51.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | no way |
21:52.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's a 23MB blob in your / which you need like 2% of its content but you can't do anything and cant do without it |
21:53.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask timeless, he published his own improved translations - or was it crashanddie? |
21:54.24 | kerio | is mmcblk0 faster than emmc? |
21:54.42 | kerio | er |
21:54.58 | kerio | is mtd faster than mmcblk0 |
21:55.02 | zeq | DocScrutinizer05: I don't give up too easily ;) |
21:58.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: allegedly yes - slightly |
21:58.33 | kerio | why can't we install everything there? |
21:59.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | because it's only 200MB? |
21:59.12 | kerio | er |
21:59.16 | kerio | i meant on the emmc |
21:59.39 | kerio | i can't believe there's no way to make a kernel that can use a rootfs on the emmc |
22:01.29 | zeq | One good thing about mtd, in theory it should be possible to use XIP, no idea if it is used, or whether it's even possible in this case. I've not looked into it for years. |
22:01.46 | zeq | XIP == eXecute In Place |
22:01.51 | kerio | ooooh, that's neat |
22:02.30 | zeq | same applies for data, it can be directly mapped on the storage |
22:03.11 | zeq | this doesn't mean to say it's an overall win, or possible in this case though :) |
22:04.10 | kerio | hmm, i wonder why the swap on mmc is used, given that there's plenty of space on the sd swap and it has a higher priority |
22:05.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah? |
22:05.35 | kerio | *emmc |
22:06.04 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: swap on mmcblk0p3, priority 0, used 16mb, swap on mmcblk1p2, priority 10, used 16mb |
22:07.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: I'm not sure about XIP. I think even ROMBL loads mtd xloader/NOLO to ram |
22:08.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: don't you mix that with NOR flash? |
22:08.29 | zeq | There's no meaningful shortage of RAM on the device, and it's going to be a lot quicker than XIP, so that could be the reason. XIP is a cool technology though. |
22:08.38 | kerio | i suppose the kernel is doing this because it's faster |
22:08.43 | zeq | DocScrutinizer05: I think you're right |
22:08.46 | kerio | but fucking hell, i would expect priorities to be respected |
22:08.55 | zeq | As I said, it's been a while since I looked into it |
22:09.02 | zeq | 5 years |
22:09.09 | zeq | + |
22:09.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | NOR can XIP, NAND not though, afaik |
22:09.24 | zeq | Sounds right |
22:11.49 | kerio | i wonder if compcache is actually worth it |
22:12.56 | zeq | kerio: probably depends on workload. |
22:13.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | nothing can replace more ram, except even MORE ram |
22:14.46 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: yeah but since you still haven't found a way to get more ram, we do what we can with what we have |
22:14.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | though... since my laptop with 8GB RAM I actually think sometimes you can have *too much* RAM |
22:15.00 | kerio | nonsense, you can't have too much RAM |
22:15.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *had* too much RAM... for that 32bit OS |
22:16.03 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what's your opinion on swap on uSD? |
22:16.11 | kerio | too slow compared to emmc? |
22:16.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | nasty |
22:16.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | only for hardcore freaks |
22:16.27 | kerio | ignore the backcover removal peril potential |
22:16.53 | kerio | hm |
22:16.56 | kerio | i tried it a bit |
22:17.13 | kerio | compcache+swap on SD |
22:17.27 | kerio | but... i'm noticing slowdowns on fucking SOLITAIRE |
22:17.50 | kerio | wait, why "only for hardcore freaks"? |
22:18.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | you already mentioned one of the main reasons |
22:18.18 | kerio | maybe it's just compcache! |
22:18.29 | zeq | is off to bed |
22:18.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | meant backcover |
22:18.31 | kerio | enabling both would be like striping, and it would increase speed! and stuff! |
22:18.34 | kerio | oh, i see |
22:18.48 | kerio | well, there's the Estel_ route of gluing a magnet on the sensor |
22:18.51 | kerio | :D |
22:19.09 | zeq | kerio: if you want to stripe you need to have both swaps at the same priority |
22:19.17 | kerio | i could try that |
22:19.29 | kerio | i wonder if it'll be faster than just emmc |
22:19.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, I'd rather start messing with sys/class/gpio/* rather than doing that |
22:19.41 | kerio | considering that emmc is still a lot faster than uSD |
22:20.07 | zeq | anyway, goodnight guys |
22:20.14 | kerio | night |
22:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | n8 |
22:20.25 | Estel_ | kerio, mtd isn't faster than emmc, sadly |
22:20.28 | Estel_ | due to compression |
22:20.33 | Estel_ | it is technically, but compression kills it |
22:20.35 | kerio | yeah but ubifs is the shit |
22:20.40 | Estel_ | freemangordon did extensive tests on that |
22:20.50 | Estel_ | ubifs is ok, but nokia decided to enable transparent compression |
22:20.50 | kerio | did someone try a lighter fs? |
22:21.01 | Estel_ | ubifs without comrpession would be OK |
22:21.08 | kerio | hm, can it be disabled? |
22:21.18 | Estel_ | well, nokia did it, because before Pr 1.2 or P1.1 whole system ended up i nrootfs |
22:21.26 | Estel_ | they hoped for no need for optification |
22:21.31 | kerio | yeah right |
22:21.36 | Estel_ | Pr 1.1 or 1.2 (can't remember) killed this ideas |
22:21.39 | Estel_ | but compression remained |
22:21.52 | Estel_ | well, considering that thumb makes 70-100 MB fre eon rotfs for average user... |
22:22.03 | Estel_ | and that moving things to opt for increased performance actually makes sense for some things... |
22:22.11 | Estel_ | disabling compression is an option to be considered |
22:22.17 | kerio | i don't actually know how ubifs works |
22:22.18 | Estel_ | it wil lfor sure be investigated more after thumb |
22:22.23 | Estel_ | it just works ;l0 |
22:22.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | mkfs.ubi /dev/mtd4 |
22:22.29 | Estel_ | BTw, as for patches |
22:22.30 | kerio | no, i mean how to make a ubifs volume |
22:22.43 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i thought it had weird stuff wrt volumes |
22:22.49 | kerio | it makes a device in /dev/ |
22:22.49 | Estel_ | no idea if it will land on cssu-testing or cssu-devel or cssu-whatever, but for sure will land in cssu-thumb fork :) |
22:22.54 | Estel_ | (zeq patches) |
22:23.07 | kerio | can the transparent compression be transparently disabled? |
22:23.22 | Estel_ | never tried, no idea, but disabling it and restoring from backupmenu should work |
22:23.29 | Estel_ | honestly, you could do everything from backupmenu |
22:23.39 | Estel_ | i.e. creating filesystem ubifs without compression and extracting rootfs |
22:23.42 | kerio | oh right, backupmenu does a rm -rf and then a copy |
22:23.47 | Estel_ | but BEFORE doing so, you should optify what is worth to be optified |
22:23.48 | kerio | it doesn't remake the fs, for root |
22:23.57 | kerio | isn't stuff optified by default anyway? |
22:23.59 | Estel_ | to be 100% sure that without compression files will fit into rootfs |
22:24.01 | Estel_ | but |
22:24.02 | kerio | also i only have 55mb of free space |
22:24.04 | kerio | :( |
22:24.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq, mkfs.whateveryoulike /dev7mtd4 |
22:24.14 | kerio | although ubifs disk space is weird as shit |
22:24.18 | kerio | because of the compression |
22:24.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | dev/mtd4 even |
22:24.41 | Estel_ | kerio, ubifs is for now only sensible filesystem to use wioth rootfs |
22:24.45 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: explain /dev/ubi0, /dev/ubi0_0 and /dev/ubi_ctrl |
22:24.46 | Estel_ | and few closed bits expect it there during boot |
22:24.50 | Estel_ | so don't try with other filesystems |
22:24.56 | kerio | Estel_: do they expect it to be the transparent flavour? |
22:25.13 | Estel_ | probably not. |
22:25.17 | Estel_ | they shouldn't care |
22:25.40 | kerio | >you could do everything from backupmenu |
22:25.45 | kerio | is backupmenu like zombo.com? |
22:25.45 | Estel_ | well, 256 nAND mtd would be superfast for swapp, but would also live quite short |
22:25.58 | Estel_ | kerio, you can enter root console in backuypmenu |
22:26.08 | Estel_ | reformat mtd with ubifs without compression |
22:26.19 | Estel_ | and then restore rootfs backup, one done before, AFTER optification |
22:26.30 | Estel_ | BTw, check your rootfs, I have 70 MB free without any effort |
22:26.43 | Estel_ | i.e. doing nothing special to have it this way |
22:26.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 mtd4 |
22:27.01 | Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, why (trendy word) trolling? |
22:27.36 | kerio | Estel_: used space? |
22:27.43 | Estel_ | kerio, free space |
22:27.46 | Estel_ | 70 mb free |
22:27.47 | kerio | no, i mean |
22:27.49 | kerio | what's your used? |
22:27.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | Estel_: seventeen *exponent* shouldn't% |
22:27.56 | Estel_ | 256-70? |
22:27.59 | kerio | haha |
22:28.08 | kerio | size 228M, used 169M, avail 55M |
22:28.15 | kerio | somehow i think it'll fit |
22:28.19 | kerio | :D |
22:28.28 | Estel_ | should be 59 free |
22:28.35 | Estel_ | but estimations |
22:28.42 | Estel_ | some things like free are estimations in compressed |
22:28.47 | kerio | yeah |
22:28.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, lamers |
22:29.09 | Estel_ | and I would be carefull with "should fit", as some files have awesome compression ratio in ubifs |
22:29.24 | Estel_ | for example 10 MB file becomes 100 kb (and it's not /dev/zero derived ;) ) |
22:29.37 | Estel_ | kerio, easy experiment |
22:29.39 | kerio | Estel_: i think 169 are true 169MB |
22:29.41 | Estel_ | take Your rootfs backup tar |
22:29.44 | kerio | hold on, i'll DU root |
22:29.47 | kerio | oh right |
22:29.47 | Estel_ | and unpack it |
22:29.48 | kerio | i also have that |
22:29.52 | Estel_ | on normal fs |
22:29.54 | Estel_ | check space used |
22:29.56 | Estel_ | job done |
22:30.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | checks actual size of mtd4, checks what fs to format it with, and which speedtests to run on top of that fs |
22:30.28 | Estel_ | speedtest kills nand quite quickly |
22:30.34 | Estel_ | wouldn't stress it, if others did it already |
22:30.51 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: apparently to properly use ubifs you need ubiattach and all sorts of shit |
22:31.12 | Estel_ | kerio, google for ubifs, maybe there is a flag to just disable compression ;) |
22:31.17 | Estel_ | but I doubt it |
22:31.49 | Estel_ | but with thumb and speed advantage due to upgraded compiler, priority now is for compiling whatever possible and applicable with thumb |
22:31.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: rtfm |
22:32.04 | Estel_ | i.e. 3rd party programs, too, from extras and friends |
22:32.17 | kerio | just -x none in mkfs-ubifs |
22:32.20 | kerio | mkfs.ubifs |
22:32.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | Estel_: I kill and torture my mtd4 as long as I like |
22:32.47 | Estel_ | kerio, might want to check actual flags used for current ubifs on N900 |
22:32.48 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: you monster |
22:32.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's made for that |
22:33.08 | Estel_ | and then, use same flags, EXCEPT compression |
22:33.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | or do YOU use an initrd on your N900? |
22:33.17 | Estel_ | to re-create it |
22:33.19 | kerio | i don't even know where they are |
22:33.29 | Estel_ | mount |
22:33.30 | Estel_ | ;) |
22:33.37 | Estel_ | mount as root |
22:33.37 | kerio | oic |
22:34.00 | kerio | rw,bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc |
22:35.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | mtd4 is *unused* empty space! (well h-e-n copies all your p0rn from your attached memsticks to it, but otherwise it's never touched) |
22:35.41 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: can't we use it? |
22:35.52 | kerio | for... idk, rootfs |
22:36.07 | kerio | it's like 200000 somethings |
22:36.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | mkfs.ubi mtd4 |
22:36.46 | kerio | i meant for rootfs |
22:36.52 | kerio | does mtd have a partition table or something |
22:37.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | incredible how LOUD I have to shout until you start to notice I have something to say |
22:38.02 | kerio | hugs DocScrutinizer05 and apologizes |
22:38.11 | kerio | i meant merging the partitions or something |
22:38.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | flasher and NOLO have partitioning hardcoded |
22:38.39 | kerio | sizes too? .s |
22:38.40 | kerio | :s |
22:38.44 | kerio | shame |
22:38.48 | kerio | but ok |
22:39.50 | kerio | why the fuck is there a "rootfs.jffs2" in my COMBINED |
22:40.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ubi been jffs2 |
22:40.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | for sentimental reasons the names stayed |
22:40.25 | kerio | i see |
22:41.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, for "flasher got it hardcoded, as does NOLO" reasons |
22:44.47 | kerio | am i a bad enough dude to try this uncompressed rootfs thing? |
22:45.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess they used maemo4 and installed it to first n900 prototypes. then each crew started from that and wrote improved versions of their own little gem, so it would still work in m4 environment. One group made a better rootfs but called it rootfs.jffs2 so none of the other bits breaks. another crew made a NOLO that could also handle USB charging, but otherwise did everything like N8x0 NOLO |
22:46.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | and that's where initrd/mtd4 comes from |
22:46.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | though it *never* been used for maemo5 |
22:50.16 | kerio | meh, i'm not a bad enough dude to try it |
22:50.28 | kerio | although apparently there's a way to disable compression for single files |
22:51.51 | kerio | i wonder how flasher makes the FS |
22:52.42 | Estel_ | it's still not sure if nolo cares for sizes, though |
22:52.46 | Estel_ | flasher remakes them for sure |
22:53.03 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, mkfs.ubifs /dev/mtd4 won't work at all |
22:53.05 | Estel_ | but having working device and no need for flasdhing it via flasher - at least closed one - maybe you could alter size, just keep layout |
22:53.08 | Estel_ | jsut a wild guess |
22:53.13 | kerio | ubifs can be mkfsed on an ubi volume |
22:53.23 | kerio | which is a layer between mtd and ubifs |
22:53.56 | Estel_ | so create ubi volume first ;) but I would try with changing size of whole aprtition layout on NAND, just keep layout itself (adjusted sizes) |
22:54.10 | kerio | i don't think there even *is* a partition |
22:54.18 | Estel_ | werll, don't expect that DocScrutinizer will hug and apologize You in return ;) |
22:54.20 | kerio | *partition layout |
22:54.32 | Estel_ | it must be, as You have this mtd4 |
22:54.34 | Estel_ | unused |
22:54.41 | Estel_ | and our nice compressed ubifs used |
22:54.44 | kerio | yeah but it's something passed to the kernel at boot time |
22:55.11 | Estel_ | doesn't matter, it doesn't reformat it on every boot. Just use linux trools for handling ubifs and mtd |
22:55.15 | Estel_ | changte sizes |
22:55.19 | Estel_ | recreate ubifs |
22:55.22 | Estel_ | extract rootfs |
22:55.24 | kerio | no, i mean |
22:55.33 | kerio | it's something that gets passed to the kernel on every boot |
22:55.34 | Estel_ | s/trools/tools/ |
22:55.35 | Estel_ | lol |
22:55.37 | kerio | or it's compiled into the kernel |
22:55.44 | kerio | it's not something that you can change easily |
22:55.50 | Estel_ | and there is a chance that it doesn't care about sizes :) I hope |
22:58.55 | kerio | ooh |
22:58.57 | kerio | even easier |
22:58.59 | kerio | like, a lot easier |
22:59.14 | kerio | In UBIFS it is possible to enable or disable compression individually for each inode by setting or cleaning their compression flag. Note, the compression flag of directories is inherited, which means that when files and sub-directories are created, they inherit the compression flag of the parent directory. |
23:04.10 | kerio | i don't know if i'm a bad enough dude to disable compression on / |
23:04.44 | kerio | Estel_: wanna try? |
23:05.46 | Estel_ | i'm dist-upgrading Ed now on device |
23:05.52 | Estel_ | jsut unpack your rootfs basckup on normal filesystem |
23:05.56 | Estel_ | and check it's sizes |
23:05.59 | kerio | yeah, it's probably faster |
23:06.07 | Estel_ | if it will fit, disable compression |
23:06.11 | kerio | 313M |
23:06.12 | kerio | :s |
23:06.15 | Estel_ | if not, optifity something, until it will |
23:06.18 | kerio | how big is the nand? |
23:06.22 | kerio | er |
23:06.28 | kerio | yeah, the nand |
23:06.34 | Estel_ | see biggest files, and optify them |
23:06.55 | kerio | aww, 256mb |
23:06.57 | kerio | shame |
23:07.02 | Estel_ | 228 in fact |
23:07.05 | Estel_ | probably due to unused mtd4 |
23:07.11 | kerio | hehe |
23:07.13 | Estel_ | nand is 256 indeed |
23:07.24 | kerio | nah, initfs is 0x200000 bytes |
23:07.35 | kerio | just 2mb |
23:07.38 | Estel_ | 200kb? |
23:07.46 | kerio | oh, maybe |
23:07.59 | kerio | no, 2mb |
23:08.05 | kerio | says /proc/mtd |
23:08.13 | Estel_ | so something else sits there :) not unexpected, like bits for nolo? |
23:08.16 | Estel_ | well |
23:08.25 | kerio | it's just wasted i think |
23:08.26 | Estel_ | optify, until You will fit there :) |
23:08.33 | Estel_ | in 228, not 2 mb |
23:08.36 | kerio | nah, i'll pass |
23:08.44 | Estel_ | kerio, Yuou use kp51r1, yep? |
23:08.47 | kerio | yeah |
23:09.07 | Estel_ | when you use Pali's charging module, does the diode keep green one like during emergency charging, despite, in fact, charging normally? |
23:09.14 | Estel_ | it annoys me, that it stays even with screen on |
23:09.19 | Estel_ | and I have own pattern for charging ;) |
23:09.27 | Estel_ | I wonder if this is not implemented yet, or a bug |
23:09.30 | kerio | \_o_/ i still use bme |
23:09.35 | Estel_ | test is easy and safe |
23:09.37 | Estel_ | as root |
23:09.38 | kerio | i like my battery indicator |
23:09.39 | Estel_ | stop bme |
23:09.47 | Estel_ | sure, but during hostmode You doj't use bme |
23:09.56 | kerio | of course not |
23:10.04 | Estel_ | also, Pali's drivber, just like charge.sh by shadowJk, allow to charge my uber battery with higher current ;) |
23:10.09 | kerio | hehe |
23:10.11 | Estel_ | so, if You could |
23:10.13 | Estel_ | stop bme |
23:10.20 | kerio | oh shit it's 1am |
23:10.38 | Estel_ | modprobe bq2415x_charger |
23:10.43 | Estel_ | and connect charger |
23:10.47 | Estel_ | then tell me about diode |
23:11.05 | Estel_ | after finishing, rmod or modprobe -r bq2415x_charger |
23:11.07 | Estel_ | and start bme |
23:11.25 | kerio | i'm gonna go to sleep actually :3 |
23:12.14 | Estel_ | hm, can't do short test? Pity, but I won't stop You |
23:13.48 | kerio | Estel_: diode stays on constantly |
23:14.02 | kerio | probably because it's the best the kernel can do, it can't really know your mce patterns |
23:14.20 | Estel_ | it can |
23:14.25 | Estel_ | it know during hostmode and booston :) |
23:14.31 | kerio | well of course it can, it's the fucking kernel |
23:14.33 | Estel_ | I think it's jsut not implemented yet |
23:14.41 | Estel_ | thanks a lot for confirming |
23:14.42 | kerio | Estel_: no, it's usbmode.sh that does the cool light shows |
23:14.47 | kerio | during hostmode |
23:14.52 | Estel_ | right |
23:15.13 | Estel_ | no problem to have something that does light shows during charging, in userspace |
23:15.28 | Estel_ | after all, booston is kernel situation, too |
23:15.40 | Estel_ | i.e. kernel does it, and something take lightshow |
23:15.47 | Estel_ | in stock bme does it |
23:15.56 | Estel_ | in oour case <whatever> may do it too ;) |
23:16.21 | Estel_ | and this dioe is eatin 0.5 mA of my charging current! :P: |
23:16.23 | kerio | haha |
23:16.32 | kerio | anyway, wait for pali's userland bme replacement |
23:19.09 | kerio | hm, i just realized that there would've been a problem with decompressing rootfs by recreating the fs |
23:19.23 | kerio | the ubitools are on the rootfs |