| 01:04.04 | *** join/#maemo-ssu taziff1 (~Taziff@cyr108.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 01:21.02 | *** join/#maemo-ssu taziff (~Taziff@cyr108.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 02:33.15 | *** join/#maemo-ssu amiconn_ (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 02:38.43 | *** join/#maemo-ssu jonwil (~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:24.15 | *** join/#maemo-ssu taziff1 (~Taziff@cyr108.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 05:19.27 | amiconn | hands DocScrutinizer05 a TAB key ;) |
| 06:15.15 | *** join/#maemo-ssu LaoLang_cool (~LaoLang_c@221.226.175.142) |
| 07:47.33 | *** join/#maemo-ssu M4rtinK (~M4rtinK@chello084112192230.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 07:57.52 | *** join/#maemo-ssu jonwil (~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:25.46 | *** join/#maemo-ssu LaoLang_cool (~LaoLang_c@221.226.175.142) |
| 08:57.14 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali) |
| 09:06.54 | Pali | ping freemangordon |
| 09:07.07 | Pali | I will delete all Provides from kernel-power-bootimg package |
| 09:07.48 | Pali | I did not got any responce from X-Fade or Council, I will try to push kp50r2 to extras-devel |
| 10:08.41 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali) |
| 10:32.32 | *** join/#maemo-ssu ivgalvez (~ivgalvez@89.140.113.138.static.user.ono.com) |
| 10:32.53 | ivgalvez | ~seen pali |
| 10:32.55 | infobot | pali <~pali@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 1h 25m 7s ago, saying: 'I did not got any responce from X-Fade or Council, I will try to push kp50r2 to extras-devel'. |
| 10:33.06 | ivgalvez | pali ping |
| 10:44.43 | *** join/#maemo-ssu lizardo (lizardo@nat/indt/x-qzneatjnkjhvryuz) |
| 11:05.02 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Pali (~pali@unaffiliated/pali) |
| 11:23.21 | ivgalvez | pali ping |
| 11:23.33 | Pali | ivgalvez, pong |
| 11:23.55 | jonwil | ok, time to start working on my libcal and wl1251-cal clones :) |
| 11:24.07 | Pali | jonwil, nice :-) |
| 11:24.30 | Pali | jonwil, that your bluetooth app doing all what nokias? |
| 11:24.34 | jonwil | yes |
| 11:24.49 | ivgalvez | regarding kp50r2 |
| 11:25.03 | *** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD28CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:25.04 | jonwil | The nokia script simply grabs the bluetooth MAC address from CAL and sends it to /sys/blah |
| 11:25.16 | jonwil | which is what mine does |
| 11:26.07 | jonwil | except the Nokia one uses sysinfo whereas mine does not |
| 11:26.08 | Pali | jonwil, maybe document "cert-npc" CAL area will be usefull |
| 11:26.26 | jonwil | I dont know anything more about it other than what is covered by that code |
| 11:26.33 | ivgalvez | we are waiting for X-Fade top grant administrative privileges for repositories to merlin1991, once done he might be better capable to fix all these annoyances with promotion of packages |
| 11:26.44 | jonwil | well there is also the WiFi MAC address in there |
| 11:26.59 | Pali | ivgalvez, do you know when it will be? |
| 11:27.16 | ivgalvez | it should have been a week ago |
| 11:27.22 | ivgalvez | you know |
| 11:27.27 | ivgalvez | I'm insisting |
| 11:27.39 | Pali | jonwil, maybe some wiki page about CAL data will be usefull |
| 11:28.19 | ivgalvez | maybe X-Fade is on vacaition, woody14619 will try to reach him as well |
| 11:28.40 | Pali | jonwil, something like "cert-npc" area has bluetooth mac address after "BT_ID" string |
| 11:28.47 | Pali | ivgalvez, ok |
| 11:28.54 | Pali | I will wait with kernel-power |
| 11:29.21 | jonwil | yes it does |
| 11:29.26 | jonwil | Thats where I am reading it frrom |
| 11:29.32 | jonwil | WiFi MAC address is there also |
| 11:29.48 | jonwil | I found it by disassembling libsysinfo.so |
| 11:30.04 | Pali | ok, can you write documentation for it? |
| 11:30.18 | jonwil | not really :P |
| 11:30.33 | jonwil | Let me know if you hear anything from those Nokia people about the BME temperature calculation |
| 11:31.36 | Pali | jonwil, my email for forwared to other n900 bme dev |
| 11:31.46 | Pali | but no answer yet |
| 11:32.02 | jonwil | ok |
| 11:32.04 | jonwil | :) |
| 11:36.28 | jonwil | I also made a few changes to my operator-name-cbs-widget last night |
| 11:36.36 | jonwil | mostly at the suggestion of DocScrutinizer |
| 11:36.51 | jonwil | and also to fix what looks like a possible issue with some people getting the wrong operator name |
| 11:37.15 | jonwil | Doc said something about getting it into cssu-devel but I dont have a clue how to do that |
| 11:37.29 | kerio | ^_^ |
| 11:37.39 | kerio | jonwil: do you have a .deb for me to install yet? |
| 11:38.00 | kerio | Pali: what's new in 51r2? |
| 11:38.00 | jonwil | I dont have a .deb handy but the code is there if someone wants to build this guy a deb |
| 11:38.08 | jonwil | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget |
| 11:38.12 | jonwil | Thats the git repo |
| 11:38.18 | jonwil | and this one |
| 11:38.20 | jonwil | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libconnui-dev |
| 11:38.22 | Pali | kerio, deleted Provides line for -bootimg package |
| 11:38.27 | kerio | Pali: hm, why? |
| 11:38.40 | kerio | and how will the uboot people install cssu thumb? |
| 11:38.46 | Pali | because HAM and apt-get prefer to install -bootimg package instead -flasher |
| 11:39.12 | Pali | kerio, reinstalling uboot flasher package will flash uboot |
| 11:39.24 | kerio | hm, what if you make the cssu thumb metapackage depend on kernel-power-flasher | kernel-feature-whatever-errata? |
| 11:39.36 | kerio | Pali: yeah but the deps won't be met |
| 11:39.50 | Pali | kerio, it still install kernel-power-bootimg :-( |
| 11:40.23 | Pali | freemangordon thinks it is because bootimg (B) is before flasher (F) |
| 11:43.20 | jonwil | I wish I had a complete list of all the valid gconf keys under /system/osso/connectivity :( |
| 12:00.45 | *** join/#maemo-ssu andre__ (~andre@Maemo/community/bugmaster/andre) |
| 12:21.28 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Guest10183 (~rd@p57B49853.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:25.21 | kerio | Pali: kernel-power-flasher < kernel-power-image |
| 12:25.23 | kerio | :) |
| 12:25.56 | Pali | kerio, renaming packages is not good idea... |
| 12:25.57 | kerio | i mean, the only reason -thumb works is because it's greater than -testing |
| 12:26.01 | kerio | Pali: why not? |
| 12:26.10 | kerio | people who install kernel images don't upgrade blindly anyway |
| 12:26.21 | Pali | because HAM does not support Replaces |
| 12:26.54 | kerio | it also doesn't support not being slow as molasses |
| 12:27.28 | Pali | kerio, we have already problems with maemo repositories... |
| 12:27.42 | Pali | and I do not want to do other experiments... |
| 12:27.54 | kerio | "screw you guys, i'll make my own repositories! with blackjack and hookers!" |
| 12:28.41 | kerio | i really wish extras-devel added pdiffs, btw |
| 12:28.42 | kerio | :c |
| 12:28.48 | kerio | 9mb for each update is painful, on a mobile connection |
| 12:29.27 | kerio | hm, is compcache worth it? |
| 12:30.36 | kerio | ooh, what's "kbd" for? |
| 12:34.01 | jonwil | Is there still some sort of planing going on for what happens when Nokia decides to stop supporting the infrastructure? |
| 12:35.38 | kerio | donate *all* the money! _ò/ |
| 12:49.54 | *** join/#maemo-ssu mase76 (~mase76@p5DD39A76.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:22.18 | Pali | freemangordon, it is possible to create new menu entry for usb disks/mmc cards to umount it (in file manager)? |
| 13:22.51 | Pali | if menu is implemented in osso gvfs or gtk/hildon libs then it should be possible |
| 13:27.13 | kerio | what unmounts stuff when you remove the backcover? |
| 13:31.00 | *** join/#maemo-ssu amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 13:32.15 | Pali | kerio, nobody |
| 13:32.25 | Pali | this is reason why I want to have umount button |
| 13:32.32 | kerio | Pali: there's an autounmounter |
| 13:32.52 | Pali | kerio, when you remove backcover it automatically power down SD card |
| 13:33.19 | Pali | and after some seconds ke-recv will umount it (+ show messages that ext journal cannnot be cleaned....) |
| 13:33.25 | kerio | ...what the fuck |
| 13:33.28 | kerio | really? |
| 13:33.32 | Pali | yes |
| 13:33.35 | kerio | i thought it was just an unmount |
| 13:33.42 | kerio | is it a physical thing? or is it a kernel thing? |
| 13:33.55 | kerio | can it be disabled? it's fucking stupid |
| 13:33.57 | freemangordon | Pali: afaik it is filemanager |
| 13:34.08 | freemangordon | closed source :( |
| 13:34.43 | Pali | freemangordon, yes filemanager closed, but mmc names are in some open library |
| 13:34.54 | Pali | kerio, not possible to disable |
| 13:35.03 | kerio | are you sure? |
| 13:35.25 | kerio | it's dumb as hell |
| 13:35.27 | freemangordon | Pali: but how to create a new menu entry? |
| 13:35.38 | freemangordon | without having the source code |
| 13:35.40 | kerio | meh, i'll have to go the Estel_ route and glue a magnet to the back cover |
| 13:35.44 | kerio | now that i'm using swap on sd too |
| 13:36.04 | Pali | freemangordon, maybe menu is in some open hildon/gtk/gvfs library too |
| 13:36.26 | freemangordon | Pali: don;t think so |
| 13:36.32 | Pali | ok |
| 13:36.34 | freemangordon | hmm, context menu? |
| 13:37.32 | kerio | automounting with no GUI for umount is lame, imo |
| 13:39.57 | freemangordon | but we are bunch of lamers, what do you expect |
| 13:43.57 | kerio | hm |
| 13:43.58 | kerio | :c |
| 13:47.57 | kerio | why is the file manager closed-source? :c |
| 13:50.49 | andre__ | kerio, http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages |
| 13:50.59 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 13:51.24 | andre__ | not really covered there though |
| 13:51.40 | kerio | meh |
| 13:51.48 | freemangordon | but reasoning should be the same. Differentiation. |
| 13:51.54 | kerio | so... the answer is just "fuckin' nokia" |
| 13:51.55 | kerio | i see |
| 13:54.04 | merlin1991 | jonwil: pong |
| 13:54.58 | freemangordon | merlin1991: could you assign some version to libcurl3, so i can pull it and push it in thumb repo? |
| 13:55.09 | freemangordon | on gitorious that is |
| 13:55.55 | freemangordon | also there is some merge request to Qt, looks sane, but i cannot merge it (or at least don't know how) |
| 13:56.17 | merlin1991 | hm curl has "some verion" 7.26.0-1maemo1+cssu1 |
| 13:57.39 | merlin1991 | now looks @ QT |
| 13:58.12 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, will use that for libcurl3 |
| 13:58.28 | merlin1991 | btw you might want to adpopt the +cssu1 to +0cssu1 |
| 13:58.29 | freemangordon | also microb should be ready for next update |
| 13:58.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, will do it |
| 13:59.14 | freemangordon | s/should be/is/ |
| 13:59.43 | merlin1991 | hm we should make a list of what we currently have for the next update |
| 14:01.13 | kerio | why +0cssu? |
| 14:01.17 | kerio | er, i mean |
| 14:01.20 | kerio | why +0cssu1? |
| 14:01.42 | merlin1991 | because then we can place an "epoch" in front of the cssu version if we ever need it |
| 14:02.06 | merlin1991 | someone could always fuck up packaging :D |
| 14:02.18 | freemangordon | merlin1991: deffinitely, I already forgot half of the things :D |
| 14:03.42 | *** join/#maemo-ssu DocScrutinizer (~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 14:03.45 | *** join/#maemo-ssu DocScrutinizer05 (~HaleBopp@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 15:37.29 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Estel_ (~Estel@abro135.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:02.37 | Pali | freemangordon, I pushed kernel-power-setting v16 into extras-devel |
| 16:02.40 | Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-settings/ |
| 16:02.47 | Pali | again missing :-( |
| 16:03.06 | *** join/#maemo-ssu luf (luf@nat/ibm/x-lpfvgaedpccmkrcd) |
| 16:03.07 | Pali | so pushing new versions (increating numbers) have no effect... |
| 16:03.36 | *** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD28CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:04.08 | kerio | Pali: can't you just make your own tiny repository? |
| 16:04.30 | Pali | kerio, extras is enabled by nokia in our device |
| 16:04.45 | Pali | kerio, extras is central repository |
| 16:04.55 | Pali | better to have ONE repository |
| 16:05.11 | Pali | before extras was configured each dev has its own repo |
| 16:05.13 | kerio | installing kernel-power is a calculated act anyway |
| 16:05.39 | Pali | also kernel-cssu is now in cssu-devel |
| 16:05.50 | kerio | anyway, i'm just bummed by the lack of diffindex support for extras-devel |
| 16:06.10 | kerio | and by the general lack of reactivity to problems on the maintainers' part |
| 16:06.51 | kerio | the repo maintainers, i mean |
| 16:06.53 | Pali | kerio, merlin will get admin rights for repositories |
| 16:07.14 | Pali | so I belive this problems could be fixed by new admin |
| 16:10.25 | luf | merlin1991: are somewhere rules how to create cssu package names/versions? |
| 16:11.11 | kerio | merlin1991: if you find a way to add pdiffs to extras-devel i will buy you a house |
| 16:15.19 | kerio | btw, k-p-s 0.16 is in -devel i think |
| 16:17.15 | *** join/#maemo-ssu tadzik (tjs@feather.perl6.nl) |
| 16:26.09 | Pali | kerio, in repo is |
| 16:26.16 | Pali | but is missing in package interface |
| 16:26.31 | Pali | same happened with 0.15 |
| 16:27.02 | Pali | X-Fade deleted version 0.15 to try pushing again (but this failed see log from #maemo-meeting) |
| 16:28.21 | *** join/#maemo-ssu andre__ (~andre@162.108.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 16:28.21 | *** join/#maemo-ssu andre__ (~andre@Maemo/community/bugmaster/andre) |
| 16:41.37 | merlin1991 | luf: if you replace an existing package, keep the name, if it's something that comes from upstream / debian see how they named it, otherwise the choice is yours |
| 16:42.17 | luf | I ask because I see +cssu1 -> +0cssu1 ... |
| 16:42.27 | merlin1991 | as for versions see http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Development#Version_Scheme |
| 16:43.37 | *** join/#maemo-ssu arcean (~Arcean@aaen94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:46.09 | luf | Ok. I'll fix it in obexd and eds git. |
| 17:13.29 | freemangordon | Pali: the fuck |
| 17:14.39 | freemangordon | luf: could you fix it for curl too? |
| 17:15.12 | *** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD28CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:19.04 | luf | freemangordon: sure I forgot to mention that package. |
| 17:32.05 | freemangordon | :) |
| 17:40.55 | *** join/#maemo-ssu NIN101 (~NIN@p5DD28CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:15.11 | *** join/#maemo-ssu nox- (noident@freebsd/developer/nox) |
| 18:16.29 | *** join/#maemo-ssu infobot (~infobot@rikers.org) |
| 18:16.30 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu is Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo4.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 |
| 18:16.30 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 19:01.25 | *** join/#maemo-ssu arcean_ (~Arcean@aaeq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:12.45 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Estel_ (~Estel@Maemo/Community/council/Estel-) |
| 19:40.23 | Estel_ | Pali, why You want to delete all "Provides" from kernel-bootimg package? |
| 20:02.29 | *** join/#maemo-ssu toxaris (~toxaris@90-230-114-186-no34.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:03.22 | *** join/#maemo-ssu toxaris (~toxaris@90-230-114-186-no34.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:35.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime |
| 20:36.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 20:55.19 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Sc0rpius (~naikel@190.201.107.179) |
| 21:07.03 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Woody14619 (~Woody@66-162-186-66.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 21:07.03 | *** join/#maemo-ssu Woody14619 (~Woody@Maemo/Community/council/Woody14619) |
| 21:10.24 | *** join/#maemo-ssu EdLin (~EdLin@securabit/listener/edlin) |
| 21:33.20 | *** join/#maemo-ssu arcean (~arcean@aaeq195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 23:59.56 | *** join/#maemo-ssu jon_y (~enforcer@swz-175-163.tm.net.my) |