IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20120726

00:21.45keriofreemangordon: is microb intended to fail to connect to https servers?
00:21.53kerioi mean, is it a known bug?
00:47.36Estel_microb connect to https servers fine
00:51.47nox-sometimes my wifi connection drops when i try tho
01:04.24Estel_wifi connections drops when browser connect to https servers? interesting
01:04.33nox-i thought so too
01:04.38Estel_never experienced that, thouygh :) maybe "they" don't want You to use https?
01:04.45nox-heh
01:05.00Estel_honestly, wifi connection (as per talking with ap) and https seems completely unrelated
01:05.07nox-yeah
01:05.22Estel_are You sure it is not coincidence?
01:05.36nox-how can i :)
01:05.44Estel_test 30 times in row ;p
01:05.55nox-well
01:06.07Estel_sittin 5 meters from AP, so it can't be bad signal quality
01:06.48nox-i had to restart hostapd a few times until i had enough and used a pc
01:07.15nox-so i tested maybe 3 times but not 30 :)
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07:08.31kerioi'm using the thumby microb-engine
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07:09.17kerio(re:https)
07:09.51freemangordonkerio: i won't answer any more questions to you re thumb until you read the thread on TMO
07:11.09DocScrutinizer06ooh, another empty token-jar?
07:12.08kerioit's a token jar with a different instruction set, though
07:15.24keriohey what do you know, tmo is actually useful
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16:03.53freemangordonmerlin1991: do we have the list of microb CVEs to be fixed?
16:04.01freemangordonmicrob-engine that is
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17:54.31freemangordonmerlin1991: ping
18:18.26merlin1991freemangordon: pong
18:19.04merlin1991freemangordon: https://garage.maemo.org/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=1976&group_id=2300&group_project_id=3864
18:19.07freemangordonmerlin1991: see my followup here https://garage.maemo.org/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=1976&group_id=2300&group_project_id=3864
18:19.34freemangordonthat is the only microb bug?
18:19.41merlin1991I think yes
18:19.47freemangordonhmm
18:19.49merlin1991btw the libpng is part of the microb sources
18:19.59merlin1991it's build while building the engine iirc
18:20.11merlin1991it's basicly a copy & paste of the libpng tree
18:20.13freemangordonI know, but the second bug is for system libpng, not the one in microb
18:20.25freemangordonAIUI
18:20.43merlin1991aiui it is for the one in microb
18:21.17merlin1991btw did you check the microb-engine history, I think the svn was a bit ahead of what we got in the maemo release
18:21.18freemangordonhmm, lemme check again
18:21.30freemangordonno
18:22.04freemangordonmerlin1991: it is the same, at least the version
18:22.55freemangordonhttps://bugs.maemo.org/12575
18:22.57povbot_Bug 12575: microb-engine: CVE-2011-3026: Integer overflow in embedded libpng
18:23.13freemangordonyeah, it is microb-engine
18:25.02freemangordonmerlin1991: anyway, please split to another task and lets comment on the bug, we don't know if microb is affected
18:25.38merlin1991freemangordon: we won't get comments on the bug, we can only check ourselves
18:26.01merlin1991but I can open a new task for that
18:26.21freemangordonmerlin1991: the bug report is "I didn't check the Maemo codebase as I didn't receive any responses for all the
18:26.22freemangordonother security tickets
18:26.24freemangordon...
18:26.39merlin1991yep we were slacking at the time :D
18:27.38freemangordonso, lets fix what we can and request additional info. if andre__ does not want to provide it, we'll do it by ourselves.
18:27.58freemangordonbut split the tasks in any case
18:28.16merlin1991we can try ofc but I think andre__ mainly dragged together whatever information he could gather
18:28.23andre__exactly.
18:28.34freemangordon:)
18:29.02merlin1991and ofc we are grateful for every bit we git :)
18:29.10freemangordonmerlin1991: my major pint was to split those two bugs, as the first is resolved fixed, but second is needsinfo ;)
18:29.13merlin1991s/git/get/
18:29.19freemangordon:nod:
18:29.26merlin1991freemangordon: will do
18:29.32freemangordonok, thanks
18:30.20freemangordonandre__: I feel really sorry it took so much time for anyone to start fixing those bugs
18:30.40andre__I don't care that much, actually. I just notice y'all :P
18:30.43andre__err notify
18:31.41freemangordon:)
18:37.29freemangordonhttps://bugs.maemo.org/12564
18:37.31povbot_Bug 12564: microb-engine: Daemon does not shut down properly when no connection and browser closed when connection dialog opens
18:38.12merlin1991hm I think there is a task for that one aswell
18:38.29merlin1991yep https://garage.maemo.org/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=1982&group_id=2300&group_project_id=3864
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19:00.50freemangordonmerlin1991: Woody14619 is aware, will proceed
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20:02.01freemangordonmerlin1991: I think I fixed that https://garage.maemo.org/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=1990&group_id=2300&group_project_id=3864
20:19.55DocScrutinizer05andre__ seems to me like last amn standing
20:19.57DocScrutinizer05man*
20:20.15DocScrutinizer05:-)
21:07.06merlin1991freemangordon: yep you did
21:07.23freemangordonthe task is still 0% open
21:07.41merlin1991well I didn't finish it ;)
21:37.00NIN101what, microb engine is now open source?
21:37.29merlin1991NIN101: always was
21:37.30Estel_NIN101, sure
21:37.35Estel_UI is closed poiece of...
21:37.40merlin1991but that's only the renderin engine, not the ui you see
21:38.02NIN101hm
21:38.54NIN101so in theory it would be possible to replace the gecko with a newer version?
21:39.24Estel_sure
21:39.32Estel_but in practice, You need to replace or Re UI
21:39.36Estel_RE*
21:39.49Estel_as it's fuckin tied to engine
21:40.09Estel_but, freemangordon and zeq are working on making fennec usable, fast, and feature complete for N900
21:40.16Estel_so it will be probably not required, soon
21:40.23Estel_even now, things they've achieved are awesome
21:40.35Estel_in my humble opinion :)
21:45.23arceanmerlin1991, ping
21:45.53arcean~logs
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21:47.07merlin1991arcean: pong
21:48.36arcean<PROTECTED>
21:48.48merlin1991...
21:48.57merlin1991or shall I have to invoke ~ask? :D
21:49.07arcean<PROTECTED>
21:49.22arcean<PROTECTED>
21:49.48merlin1991depends entirely on nokia
21:49.51keriothat's a really bold assumption
21:49.57arcean<PROTECTED>
21:50.04keriounless you know something that we don't
21:50.20kerioarcean: accessible from the outside?
21:50.21merlin1991if they have a stand like with the other non-free stuff in cssu then we can
21:50.31arcean<PROTECTED>
21:50.56keriofloating *where*?
21:51.19merlin1991if they attach a (c) that allows redistribution we can have it aswell
21:51.24merlin1991if they say nothing we can't do anything
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21:58.31Estel_merlin1991, and what about quim's exception?
21:58.39Estel_that it's allowed for usage with Nokia devices?
21:58.48Estel_generally, close things from Nokia
21:58.59merlin1991that only counts for (c) nokia
21:59.05Estel_btw, acrena, it's nothing new, we knoiw about this shit for some time ;0
21:59.11Estel_merlin1991, true
21:59.12arceanEstel_, the problem is, they haven't release that
21:59.12Estel_well
21:59.26Estel_I don't mind torrent or some upload services
21:59.28Estel_and wget script
21:59.32Estel_for masses
21:59.34Estel_;)
21:59.46Estel_sure, I would preffer it in CSSU, but it looks like lost situation
21:59.51arceanEstel_, I know, but maybe someone else would like to 'haz' it :)
21:59.57Estel_retards haven't released it, so it lies unused, and we can't do anything about it
22:00.04Estel_arcean, sure
22:00.22Estel_and I think torrent/upload service and script that automagically wgets and unpack where approriate is best we can count on :(
22:00.34Estel_Nokia won't release a single byte of code
22:00.45Estel_when I was Councilor, it was told boldly
22:01.14Estel_they don't give a f about it, for them, it can root in their repos forever, or even dissapear. Community must use it unoficially, or not use at all :(
22:01.26Estel_of course, CSSU could have every *other* thing needed for it to work included
22:01.33Estel_so it's just drop-in via mentioned automagic script
22:01.53Estel_i.e. end user jsut runds script, that wget it, unpack, set permissions etc
22:01.56Estel_ugly, but works
22:02.16Estel_of course every end user is "pirating" it in own discretion
22:02.41Estel_btw, arcean, as I have it yet haven';t tested it on device yet (lack of time) - does it work as it should?
22:02.48Estel_or it lacks HW acceleration etc?
22:02.51merlin1991well something that is on the public webserver of the company holding (c) can hardly be pirated :D
22:03.12Estel_merlin1991, sure, but not redistributed, and we can't expect it to be there forever
22:03.20Estel_I'm sure whole repo will disappear soon
22:03.22keriohm, doesn't the flash 10.1 plugin have lots of problems?
22:03.34Estel_so in long run, probably torrent/share service will be only home for such thing
22:03.42Estel_or private repo in country that permits it
22:04.01Estel_kerio, it's not that plugin You think about
22:04.07keriok
22:04.37Estel_this one, reportedly, works fine. There was request to not talk about it, until mirroring repos is finished, but it was 3 weeks ago
22:04.48Estel_and arcean told it already ;)
22:04.56Estel_so i'm suree no harm in calling it via real name
22:05.17Estel_after all, repos were mirrored AFAIK, and I don't like those conspiracy going forever ;)
22:05.20Estel_we're foss, after all
22:05.49Estel_arcean, do you confirm, that it works fine with hw accel?
22:05.51keriogoing to sleep, cya
22:05.59Estel_have nice erotic dreams.
22:08.37arceanI'm pretty sure the number of mirrors is much, much bigger than overall numer of Nokia's servers :P
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