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| 01:37.11 | luf | Ok. So the status before sleep ... |
| 01:37.27 | luf | HF is working perfectly without any bug/mistake ... |
| 01:38.59 | luf | ... but Calendar application is sometimes failing with internal error. |
| 01:39.10 | luf | :D so I have to find the bug ... |
| 01:45.32 | luf | and I have to keep some work for morning ... or evening. |
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| 07:54.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf HF |
| 07:55.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf PBAP |
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| 08:21.14 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what's the policy on adding functionality to cssu? |
| 08:21.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | be conservative |
| 08:21.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | doublecheck if you need cssu for that |
| 08:22.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | don't break things |
| 08:22.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW stay compatible |
| 08:22.36 | kerio | *coffcoffcbwidgetcoffcoff* |
| 08:22.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, spank me for supporting it |
| 08:23.01 | kerio | ...i'd rather not |
| 08:25.14 | kerio | so if it requires changing system stuff, it's kinda fine? |
| 08:29.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | no |
| 08:30.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | changing glibc so you get auto-capitAls in every line dicipline would meet the "requires changing system stuff" precondition but still is a silly idea |
| 08:34.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | fixing any auto-completion bug in HIM otoh was for sure sth we'd want to get into cssu |
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| 09:33.40 | Kiborg | Hi |
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| 09:35.11 | Kiborg | I have a serious problem with N900, it is in contioious restart loop. |
| 09:35.20 | jon_y | uboot? |
| 09:35.56 | Kiborg | I am using CSSU stabile. |
| 09:36.24 | jon_y | are you using uboot? |
| 09:36.27 | jon_y | pr1.3? |
| 09:36.49 | Kiborg | Yes pr 1.3 |
| 09:37.06 | jon_y | with uboot? |
| 09:37.16 | Kiborg | I have no idea what uboot is |
| 09:37.40 | jon_y | ok, do you know how to flash your kernel? |
| 09:37.48 | Kiborg | Yes |
| 09:38.07 | jon_y | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/u-boot/u-boot-images_2012.04-1.tar.gz |
| 09:38.17 | jon_y | try flashing the stock kernel for 1.3 |
| 09:38.27 | jon_y | if it works, boot loader problem |
| 09:38.51 | jon_y | you can try flashing the -fb version for a boot up text console, may give you more info if you can read fast enough |
| 09:39.20 | jon_y | other than that, I'm not really sure what the problem is |
| 09:39.49 | jon_y | flashing the entire nokia 1.3 Fiasco will wipe everything out, but should also fix your problems |
| 09:41.37 | Kiborg | First I need to figure out how to get the data out |
| 09:41.57 | Kiborg | Contacts and stuff. |
| 09:48.48 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: HF - handsfree; PBAP - bluetooth profile used for getting data (addressbooks and call list history) from device (mainly phones) to clever HF. |
| 09:49.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah |
| 09:49.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks |
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| 10:49.42 | Kiborg | is there a simple wiki on how to flash n900 on stock os? |
| 10:53.21 | luf | Yes. It is. But I'm sorry I don't remember. |
| 10:53.28 | luf | I'll try to take a look. |
| 10:54.35 | freemangordon | luf: we are wating merlin1991 to wake up and push your libcurl patches on gitorious? |
| 10:54.41 | Kiborg | I don't think I can save data... |
| 10:55.02 | Kiborg | System restarts after 3 min |
| 10:55.20 | luf | 3 minutes is enough or not? |
| 10:55.39 | Kiborg | doubt it. |
| 10:55.44 | luf | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 10:55.48 | Kiborg | sometimes it is only a minute |
| 10:55.56 | Kiborg | it is crazy |
| 10:55.58 | luf | BTW 3 minutes after power up or after boot is complete? |
| 10:56.21 | Kiborg | 3 min for the whole process |
| 10:56.41 | Kiborg | it is constantly rebooting |
| 10:57.11 | luf | Have you installed syslog? To try to see why it's rebooting. |
| 10:59.55 | luf | Kiborg: Did you change something close before this boot loop occured? |
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| 11:09.25 | Kiborg | This is the strange thing... I am pretty certain I didn't. The only thing I did on that day was download a youtube clip using cuteTube-qml. But I have that installed probably for at least a year... |
| 11:09.44 | kerio | is the battery charged? |
| 11:11.02 | Kiborg | yes |
| 11:11.14 | Kiborg | It is on the charger. |
| 11:12.01 | luf | I have problem with booting on charger ... |
| 11:12.18 | luf | Can you remove it from charger for a while? |
| 11:13.11 | Kiborg | Ok |
| 11:16.09 | Kiborg | Still crashes... |
| 11:16.37 | luf | BTW are you sure the charger is working well? |
| 11:16.53 | luf | Can you try to charge it using USB cabel from computer/notebook? |
| 11:16.58 | Kiborg | It is not plugged in |
| 11:17.18 | Kiborg | i was charging it using my computer... |
| 11:17.24 | luf | Ok. |
| 11:18.10 | luf | So no more idea here :( |
| 11:19.05 | luf | Let's try to flash. |
| 11:20.07 | Kiborg | I am worried that it chrashes too fast to reflash... but I will try. |
| 11:23.07 | Kiborg | is there a reset command? |
| 11:23.19 | Kiborg | I know there is one in settings |
| 11:23.57 | Kiborg | It worked the last time for few of hours. |
| 11:24.09 | Kiborg | Are there any other? |
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| 11:26.37 | luf | Flashing is running another way. |
| 11:27.13 | luf | If it crash during flash you have HW problem (battery or something else). |
| 11:27.50 | luf | I know nothing about reset command. |
| 11:28.30 | luf | I bricked two times my phone and have to reflash. But I know what's wrong and my N900 didn't boot to PIN request. |
| 11:29.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | Kiborg: anyway, you should ask in #maemo |
| 11:33.07 | luf | help channel |
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| 14:01.23 | freemangordon | zeq: what option/variable/whatever should be added do debian/rules, so libqtm library path to be linked into executable? |
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| 14:56.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog ctrl-f ke-recv |
| 14:56.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | err |
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| 15:26.47 | dreamer | freemangordon: ping |
| 15:27.14 | dreamer | so, I have an ext2 formatted sd-card that doesn't get automounted .. what's up with that? :P (someone sent me here, it's ok) |
| 15:30.36 | freemangordon | do you have lstest CSSU-T? |
| 15:30.43 | freemangordon | dreamer: ^^^ |
| 15:31.06 | dreamer | afaik I have 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 |
| 15:31.39 | freemangordon | you need testing for extN automounting iirc |
| 15:31.52 | freemangordon | ke-recv is still not in stable |
| 15:32.13 | dreamer | hmmm ok |
| 15:32.28 | dreamer | should I otherwise follow this? http://wiki.maemo.org/Ext2_on_microSD_card |
| 15:32.43 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: updated ke-recv is still not in stable, ain't? |
| 15:32.46 | freemangordon | dreamer: NFC |
| 15:33.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: that's been my question basically |
| 15:33.17 | freemangordon | :D |
| 15:33.28 | freemangordon | iirc it is not, but not 100% sure |
| 15:33.40 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ ? |
| 15:33.52 | dreamer | sure, just blame it on the 'other guy' :P |
| 15:33.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | dreamer: you *could* switch to Testing |
| 15:35.02 | dreamer | scary stuff .. |
| 15:35.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable |
| 15:35.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: could we eventually get the ke-recv into S? |
| 15:36.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | dreamer: actually T isn't that scary right now |
| 15:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4.1 should be almost as stable as S3 |
| 15:36.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | it has one or two minor quirks |
| 15:38.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | but after all it's a x.1 version, means there are some fixes but no new stuff, so it's quite good stability |
| 15:39.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | one known issue is with operator widget: you can't install custom operator name widget from extras repo anymore |
| 15:42.15 | dreamer | ok, don't know what that is even .. |
| 15:42.41 | dreamer | do I have to switch the entire OS to testing then? how does that even work? :P |
| 15:47.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | errm, somebody said it's sufficient to switch catalog from Stable to Testing, then do an upgrade? |
| 15:47.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali or merlin1991 would know |
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| 15:49.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905 and other threads related to CSSU should have info |
| 15:49.34 | dreamer | ok, have to go out for groceries. will try later :) |
| 15:54.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80525 |
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| 16:21.34 | kerio | i did that |
| 16:21.44 | kerio | changing the repo and then tapping "upgrade" in HAM worked for me |
| 16:31.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: many thanks :-) |
| 16:31.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | Originally Posted by merlin1991 |
| 16:31.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | Every friday @ UTC 17:00 I will try to be around #maemo-ssu on irc.freenode.net to go over the current packages in testing with everyone who is around to voice his opinion. |
| 16:32.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
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| 17:18.41 | freemangordon | zeq: i've cloned fennec from github and build it, but it is sloow, any ckue why? |
| 17:18.48 | freemangordon | *clue |
| 17:19.15 | freemangordon | oops, wrong channel |
| 17:19.18 | freemangordon | :) |
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| 19:40.51 | merlin1991 | okay time to answer you all :D |
| 19:41.05 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer, freemangordon, dreamer, luf |
| 19:41.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey ;-D |
| 19:41.25 | merlin1991 | so yes it is sufficient to change the cataloge to T and hit update in ham to go from s to t |
| 19:41.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 19:41.52 | merlin1991 | friday meetings went stale when there was nothing to talk about for weeks in a row |
| 19:41.59 | merlin1991 | (and nobody ever around :D) |
| 19:42.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 19:42.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | just thought it's quite funny to read old threads on tmo |
| 19:42.26 | merlin1991 | and ke-recv in stable is possible when t4.1 has had it's cooldown phase |
| 19:42.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ again |
| 19:43.09 | freemangordon | merlin1991: why 4.1? |
| 19:43.28 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: gnome-vfs wasn't "stable" yet |
| 19:43.29 | freemangordon | ker-recv was in T 4.0 for 2 months or so |
| 19:43.33 | merlin1991 | it's manily a policy thing :D |
| 19:43.38 | merlin1991 | and it's required by ke-recv |
| 19:43.40 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 19:43.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | so let's slowly and relaxed start a list of stuff to go into S4 ? |
| 19:43.55 | freemangordon | but lets reduce the quarantine to 1-2 weeks |
| 19:44.01 | dreamer | merlin1991: ok, will try it in a bit :) |
| 19:44.24 | freemangordon | merlin1991: what has happened with luf's patches? |
| 19:44.32 | merlin1991 | I'm on them atm |
| 19:44.32 | freemangordon | libcurl3 that is |
| 19:44.47 | freemangordon | great, you'da man |
| 19:44.48 | merlin1991 | was forced not to use my pc all day long thanks to the rain in vienna |
| 19:44.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm using T4.1 since 2 days now ;-P |
| 19:45.05 | freemangordon | your PC is not waterproof? |
| 19:45.17 | merlin1991 | not when I carry it around in heavy rain :D |
| 19:45.27 | merlin1991 | it has fans and stuff where the water can come in ;) |
| 19:45.28 | freemangordon | :D |
| 19:45.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | get a decent laptop!!! |
| 19:45.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | CF-29 FTW ;-P |
| 19:46.30 | freemangordon | well, I don't think it is a good idea to exposure any electronics to water, no matter if it is CF-29. |
| 19:46.36 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I have a "decent" laptop, but the sb on there is I'll say tainted and not useable for cssu stuff and there is no more space for yet another target |
| 19:46.39 | freemangordon | excluding military devices of course |
| 19:47.16 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: trust me military devices which are "waterproof" are not that waterproof aswell :D |
| 19:47.26 | merlin1991 | at least in the austrian army xD |
| 19:48.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: (space) :nod: |
| 19:49.48 | _ade_ | freemangordon: can I bring up the replacement clock in CSSU follow up process? |
| 19:49.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hag9CLBfRQ |
| 19:50.21 | merlin1991 | _ade_: it is going to get there, no worries :) |
| 19:50.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ww1RH8iAR4&feature=related |
| 19:51.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | a tad over the top |
| 19:51.14 | _ade_ | merlin1991: freemangordon wanted to discuss it with you, but you where in Greece back then AFAIK... |
| 19:51.35 | merlin1991 | that must have been last week then |
| 19:52.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | somewhere around 1:00 I'd stop doing that to mine |
| 19:52.52 | merlin1991 | I dunno, even regular laptop displays are quite waterproof |
| 19:53.31 | merlin1991 | hm how do I get alsa to list me all current devices? |
| 19:54.37 | _ade_ | merlin1991: okay, I am going to hear for you then things are ready for futher CSSU integration? Then I won't bother you again with that question... |
| 19:54.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM6fICz9-78 |
| 19:54.50 | luf | merlin1991: I made decisions about my questions. So it's not necessary to answer. |
| 19:55.08 | freemangordon | _ade_: what were that font changes lately? are we not using theme fonts? |
| 19:55.08 | luf | As I wrote on TMO I have to clean up the code and release it. |
| 19:55.15 | merlin1991 | _ade_: I'll come back to you when the ham changes are finished, but don't stop improving the ui in the meantime ;) |
| 19:55.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: aplay -L |
| 19:55.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | or -l |
| 19:55.39 | luf | The question is if CSSU will accept new obexd and patched evolution-data-server ;) |
| 19:55.45 | merlin1991 | lol |
| 19:55.56 | merlin1991 | I bet wer're pretty eager to get them :D |
| 19:56.24 | _ade_ | freemangordon: we are using theme fonts. I just messed up a change and fix it again |
| 19:57.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: (alsa) you have to patch some stuff in alsa config to get them *all* |
| 19:57.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme dig it up for you |
| 19:57.39 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I've found what I needed in the supplied list |
| 19:57.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok then |
| 19:57.58 | merlin1991 | turns out I even have a nvidia sound "device" even if no hdmi cable is connected |
| 19:58.22 | merlin1991 | thus my .asoundrc to get sound per default on my usb headphones didn't work anymore |
| 19:59.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: anyway here you are (you got me started on it) |
| 19:59.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | # show all name hints also for definitions without hint {} section |
| 19:59.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | defaults.namehint.showall on |
| 19:59.40 | merlin1991 | aplay -L lists quite a lot of stuff |
| 19:59.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf |
| 20:00.56 | merlin1991 | it lists my usb headset as 7.1 device oO |
| 20:01.24 | merlin1991 | also as 5.1, 5.0, 4.1 and 4.0 |
| 20:01.29 | merlin1991 | odd |
| 20:02.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat dev/zero|aplay -vv -D <yourdevice> |
| 20:03.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | even |
| 20:03.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | aplay -vv -D <yourdevice> /dev/zero |
| 20:05.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | will probably show the stack eventually routing 5.1 to 2.0 |
| 20:05.48 | merlin1991 | nope claims sample format not avaiable :D |
| 20:06.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | aplay -l ? |
| 20:07.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually the devices have no format it seems |
| 20:07.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 |
| 20:07.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | is absolutely normal - for the 5.1 plugin |
| 20:08.12 | merlin1991 | surround71:CARD=Headset,DEV=0 |
| 20:08.13 | merlin1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.13 | merlin1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | it just grabs any hw card it finds and converts it to 5.1 |
| 20:09.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | surround71:CARD=Headset,DEV=0 actually tells it all |
| 20:09.49 | merlin1991 | if you know alsa ;) |
| 20:10.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | plugin surround71 uses CARD=headset, device=0 there |
| 20:10.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't tell what CARD=headset really does |
| 20:10.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | it tells what the plugin does |
| 20:11.41 | merlin1991 | aplay -l lists 4 nvidia devices (card HDMI device 3, 7, 8 and 9) |
| 20:11.57 | merlin1991 | I mean I'd understand 1, but 4? |
| 20:11.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 20:12.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd understand 1,2,3,4 |
| 20:12.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | but not 3,7,8,9 |
| 20:12.57 | merlin1991 | yeah but why even have 4 hdmi devices in total? the friggin thing has only 1 port |
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| 20:15.09 | merlin1991 | btw about what is to go into stable, changes in testing compared to stable have only been on the ke-recv front |
| 20:15.21 | merlin1991 | + one or two library updates from cve fixes |
| 20:15.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | hw mux |
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| 20:16.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah that always been fixed in stable I think |
| 20:18.13 | merlin1991 | jsut went over the changelog, it's ke-recv + all its dependencies (like dosfstools, gnome-vfs, libhildonfm, ...), modest, tracker and all the cve libraries |
| 20:19.38 | merlin1991 | hm interesting |
| 20:19.51 | merlin1991 | from the libcurl package "curl" ususally isn't compiled |
| 20:20.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: modest? TRACKER? |
| 20:21.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | hell, don't we finally want those in S? |
| 20:21.23 | merlin1991 | modest had the "bug" where it synced delteted emails with the server |
| 20:21.37 | merlin1991 | tracker we added the patches from javispedro |
| 20:21.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah |
| 20:21.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | all thumbs up for tracker fix |
| 20:22.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | hail javispedro! |
| 20:22.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems no T system exploded from tracker with fixes so far? ;-D |
| 20:22.48 | merlin1991 | nope as far as I can tell none did :D |
| 20:23.08 | merlin1991 | only that extra-decoders support needed to be reinstalled on a few |
| 20:23.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeew |
| 20:23.20 | merlin1991 | the additional mimetypes somehow got lost |
| 20:23.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq |
| 20:23.27 | merlin1991 | I still have to find out why that happened |
| 20:23.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | autoremove? like usual? |
| 20:23.52 | merlin1991 | nah |
| 20:23.59 | merlin1991 | you could still playback from the file manager |
| 20:24.13 | merlin1991 | and if you didn't purge the tracker db old entries still worked |
| 20:24.24 | merlin1991 | only anything new didn't get indexed anymore |
| 20:24.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | heh, that might explain some weird stuff with my flac Sisters of mercy records |
| 20:25.27 | merlin1991 | reinstalling the flac support fixed it for most people afaik |
| 20:25.37 | merlin1991 | I think the package name is actually ogg-support |
| 20:25.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | *burp* |
| 20:25.58 | merlin1991 | ponders wheter to build curl or not |
| 20:26.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | what would a messed up apt-cache policy look alike? |
| 20:26.10 | merlin1991 | luf: is there anything you know that uses curl? |
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| 20:26.29 | merlin1991 | don't have any n900 with that installed nearby |
| 20:26.40 | merlin1991 | (I'm currently not in vienna) |
| 20:26.42 | luf | syncevolution at lease |
| 20:26.46 | luf | least |
| 20:27.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | GRRRR |
| 20:27.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | gstreamer0.10-flac - Flac gst plugin from the good set ogg-support - Ogg/Vorbis/Flac support for n900 libflac8 - Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtime C library libflac-dev - Free Lossless Audio Codec - C development library decoders-support - Support for additional video and audio decoders in the Media Player |
| 20:27.59 | merlin1991 | decoders-support is just a mp for several codecs |
| 20:28.07 | merlin1991 | gstreamer and the libflac should still be fine |
| 20:28.28 | merlin1991 | you'll need to reinstall ogg-support since it adds the mimetypes to tracker in the postinst |
| 20:28.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | gstreamer0.10-flac: |
| 20:28.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | ogg-support: |
| 20:29.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.12 | luf | some facebook staff also using curl and rdepends on libcurl3 returns a lot of packages. |
| 20:29.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | libflac8: |
| 20:29.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.35 | merlin1991 | luf: I meant the actual curl package with the binary, not the libs |
| 20:29.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | decoders-support: |
| 20:29.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | grumbles, frowns, fires apt-get install |
| 20:30.18 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: ogg-support is enough |
| 20:30.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeerrr? |
| 20:30.36 | merlin1991 | it uses gstreamer-av since some version as decode backend |
| 20:30.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 20:30.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | k |
| 20:31.42 | luf | merlin1991: curl is new package. It was never exist in maemo 5. |
| 20:31.44 | freemangordon | merlin1991: could we backup tracker db before update? |
| 20:31.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | makes mental note to keep an eye on flac audio |
| 20:32.04 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: the db i backed up anyway |
| 20:32.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | do WUT? |
| 20:32.16 | merlin1991 | it somewhere in /home/user/.something |
| 20:32.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | WUUUT? |
| 20:32.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | backed up by whom? |
| 20:32.41 | merlin1991 | the problem is the mapping of mimetypes / extractors |
| 20:33.05 | freemangordon | well, that mapping, not tracker db |
| 20:33.07 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: it's backed up in the sense that it is a data file in the user area and not part of the package |
| 20:33.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 20:33.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | goes kicking trackerd a bit, for fun |
| 20:34.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I should shoot it, then do a BBQ with it? |
| 20:34.21 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: that was my thought, we could possibly depend on a specific version of backuptrackermimedb in pre-depends of our tracker package |
| 20:34.54 | merlin1991 | but first I/someone else has to find out what really is lost when we do the tracker update |
| 20:35.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | and how |
| 20:35.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka why |
| 20:35.28 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 20:35.51 | freemangordon | maybe javispedro could help on that one |
| 20:35.59 | merlin1991 | possibly |
| 20:36.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | heads out to get another drink on robbiethe1st's health |
| 20:36.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | if only I could cheer him up to include mtd_debug based kernel backup |
| 20:37.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui he's reluctant to test since he got no/broken N900 so couldn't test |
| 20:37.42 | freemangordon | unfortunately he is not online (javispedro i mean) |
| 20:38.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | if our council was alert, they already had sent him a spare device ;-D |
| 20:39.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen javispedro |
| 20:39.24 | infobot | javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 5d 2h 2m 56s ago, saying: 'meh'. |
| 20:39.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen robbiethe1st |
| 20:39.36 | infobot | robbiethe1st <~robbiethe@50-120-89-159.cral.id.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1d 19h 43m 23s ago, saying: 'Likely interference from another phone nearby checking in'. |
| 20:41.45 | merlin1991 | luf: I've dl the tar and the patch from sources, is the git in the tar already complete or do I need to apply the patch aswell? |
| 20:43.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | repo anybody (google crap) |
| 20:43.29 | merlin1991 | huh? |
| 20:44.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | coughs and pints at https://sites.google.com/a/android.com/opensource/download/using-repo |
| 20:44.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | points |
| 20:44.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | though a pint or two would be it now |
| 20:45.10 | merlin1991 | uh oh repo sounds nasty |
| 20:45.43 | luf | The tar with git is complete. The diff is already included (as last commit). |
| 20:46.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | the tricky stuff starts at ""repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git"" |
| 20:47.22 | merlin1991 | looks like a thin wrapper over git clone $someurl |
| 20:47.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | since there are dozens or rather 1000s of manifests, and no clue which to use for which project |
| 20:48.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | not even a clue how to check which manifests exist at all |
| 20:48.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ""platform"" in that patch is rather $random |
| 20:49.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course at office we got other URLs and thus other git domains(?) |
| 20:49.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | trees |
| 20:49.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | projects |
| 20:49.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 20:50.05 | merlin1991 | hehe I bet somewhere in there is a project that uses git submodules to add yet another layer of complexity :D |
| 20:50.37 | merlin1991 | luf: which debhelper did you use to compile? |
| 20:50.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | forests |
| 20:50.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | == bunches of trees |
| 20:51.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | a manifest describes a forest |
| 20:51.22 | luf | merlin1991: I'm using Maemo SDK in virtual. |
| 20:51.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | DAFAQ |
| 20:51.36 | merlin1991 | basically a manifest does what git submodules are meant to achieve |
| 20:51.54 | luf | merlin1991: dpkg -l say: 7.0.15-maemo2 |
| 20:52.03 | merlin1991 | so that's why |
| 20:52.08 | merlin1991 | I failed due to no dh_prep |
| 20:52.24 | merlin1991 | 5.0.42-0osso1 |
| 20:52.31 | merlin1991 | you have debhelper from extras-devel it seems |
| 20:52.39 | luf | Ugh. |
| 20:53.01 | merlin1991 | in other words debhelper 7 and not 5 |
| 20:53.17 | luf | I understand. So I have to fix it. |
| 20:53.21 | luf | But not today :( |
| 20:53.30 | merlin1991 | I might be able todo that myself :) |
| 20:54.17 | luf | Ok. Thanks. |
| 20:54.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-dev/2011-June/004941.html |
| 20:54.56 | luf | I'm working on cleaning up the obexd so it'll be usable and I'll try to send some patches to the upstream. |
| 20:55.37 | luf | And I have to go to bed in short time as I have to wake up tomorrow early. |
| 20:58.14 | merlin1991 | hm was it -I.git or -i.git |
| 20:58.16 | merlin1991 | I never know |
| 20:58.27 | kerio | it's because git has a crappy interface |
| 20:59.36 | merlin1991 | kerio: that is about dpkg-buildpackage ;) |
| 20:59.52 | kerio | my point still stands! |
| 21:00.08 | merlin1991 | ffs now it doesn't build anymore |
| 21:01.18 | kerio | where's Pali? |
| 21:01.22 | luf | I'll fix it tomorrow. |
| 21:01.46 | luf | I'll adopt the build from curl-7.18 from maemo. |
| 21:03.04 | merlin1991 | luf: I found out why |
| 21:03.16 | merlin1991 | I hate when quilt is used together with git |
| 21:03.41 | merlin1991 | I always end up commiting files that should only be edited by quilt upon build which ofc breaks applayin those patches with quilt |
| 21:08.41 | merlin1991 | wtf is lintian |
| 21:09.21 | merlin1991 | Lintian dissects Debian packages and tries to find bugs and policy violations. It contains automated checks for many aspects of Debian policy as well as some checks for common errors. |
| 21:09.23 | merlin1991 | interesting |
| 21:12.11 | luf | merlin1991: To be honest I don't know the package building on debian. I just get original curl from maemo and the new package from debian wheezy and merge them as good as I can/know. |
| 21:12.36 | luf | And of course I update the Maemo SDK from extras - as you noticed several times. |
| 21:12.50 | luf | s/update/updated/ |
| 21:12.53 | merlin1991 | luf: I think I got it all fixed now, just need todo one more compile |
| 21:13.38 | merlin1991 | it's basically 2 dh_* scripts which are not part of debhelper 5 (but in debhelper 7) |
| 21:13.57 | merlin1991 | arf why does it have to use autotools |
| 21:14.11 | merlin1991 | the checks at the beginning of ./configure take forever |
| 21:14.39 | luf | Don't compile it on N900 :D |
| 21:15.32 | merlin1991 | I'm compiling on an i5 :D |
| 21:15.55 | luf | iphone 5? :D I think it's not released yet :D |
| 21:18.26 | merlin1991 | hm actually how do I find the max clocking of my cpu on the console? /proc/cpuinfo only has the current value in cpu MHz |
| 21:18.38 | merlin1991 | ah wait it's in the model name :D |
| 21:21.28 | luf | Can you help me with configure.ac change? |
| 21:21.28 | luf | I need PKG_CHECK_MODULES + AC_DEFINE when pkg exists. |
| 21:22.18 | merlin1991 | phew I once knew how that worked atm I don't have the faintest idea though |
| 21:22.35 | merlin1991 | btw did you check your /targets dir for evil *.environment files? |
| 21:24.55 | luf | Yes. I wrote it on #maemo |
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| 21:25.14 | merlin1991 | I was asking just in case :) |
| 21:25.31 | luf | That's the reason why Calendar was failing with signal 11 when I recompile evolution-data-server. |
| 21:25.51 | luf | It should save me some time if you asked yesterday :D |
| 21:25.58 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 21:26.06 | luf | But now I remember it much more better. |
| 21:26.27 | luf | s/ more// |
| 21:26.41 | merlin1991 | luf: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/curl/commits/master |
| 21:27.20 | luf | Good :) Thanks. |
| 21:28.12 | luf | freemangordon: ^^^ |
| 21:29.17 | merlin1991 | anything else I should look at? |
| 21:30.01 | luf | evolution-data-server? |
| 21:30.27 | luf | http://merlin1991.at/~luf/pbap/source/ |
| 21:31.15 | luf | :) |
| 21:31.33 | merlin1991 | you said earlier you're working on cleaning obexd, shouldn't I better wait till you've done that? |
| 21:32.18 | luf | You can do this first. But as you want. |
| 21:33.03 | luf | BTW I think from Acurus reaction it seems that PC suite now can be contacts opened and synced with outlook. |
| 21:33.55 | merlin1991 | Acurus reaction being what? |
| 21:34.01 | luf | And I think removing empty attributes from VCARD has huge impact on this. |
| 21:34.25 | luf | Let's look to TMO: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1238944#post1238944 |
| 21:34.31 | merlin1991 | ah tmo |
| 21:34.36 | luf | Not sure if this post but page 35 ... |
| 21:34.57 | merlin1991 | I'm not that eagerly reading tmo so whenever you quote it mention that ;) |
| 21:35.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/how_to_include_rewrites_of_closed_blobs/ ETA? |
| 21:36.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | (btw it never occurred to me the ML would show up in a webpage like that) |
| 21:36.56 | merlin1991 | http (colon) (double slash) merlin1991 (dot) at (slash) ~luf (slash) pbap :D |
| 21:37.25 | merlin1991 | luf you can deeplink directly to the server unless you want to stay of googles radar :D |
| 21:37.31 | luf | I can't post URL there. |
| 21:37.44 | merlin1991 | odd |
| 21:37.57 | merlin1991 | also http://merlin1991.at/robots.txt hrhr |
| 21:38.00 | luf | I tried it two or 3 days ago and moderator hasn't approve it yet. |
| 21:38.17 | merlin1991 | weird I can post urls on tmo all I want |
| 21:38.38 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: eta is when it's done |
| 21:38.40 | merlin1991 | :/ |
| 21:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 21:38.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | guessed as much |
| 21:39.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe ETA wasn't exactly the right term |
| 21:39.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | more like: any progress, any news? |
| 21:39.22 | luf | I'll try it next time again. |
| 21:39.59 | merlin1991 | hm news, and progress well I hate ham now more than ever and I'm getting there, slowly :D |
| 21:40.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu-optional is http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/how_to_include_rewrites_of_closed_blobs/ |
| 21:40.00 | infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay |
| 21:40.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: so good progress :-D |
| 21:40.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | better than expected ;-) |
| 21:41.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I didn't think you'd get such a dedicated notion about HAM that fast |
| 21:41.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 21:41.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | *pad pad* |
| 21:42.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | the crux with "conflicts" can't be generic HAM though, must be apt-worker or sth |
| 21:42.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | no? |
| 21:43.08 | merlin1991 | actually apt-worker has support to resolve conflicts to some extend |
| 21:43.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders porting yast X-P |
| 21:43.36 | merlin1991 | only that the ham in first instance already blocks any such thing |
| 21:45.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~kill ham |
| 21:45.15 | infobot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxtachyon gun at ham |
| 21:46.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | just giggles at TimRiker recently reasoning a ibot patch by "I thought ibot shouldn't insult people" |
| 21:46.51 | kerio | ~trout ham |
| 21:46.51 | infobot | ACTION slaps ham around a bit with a large trout! |
| 21:47.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess morons broke by that patch |
| 21:47.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~status |
| 21:47.22 | infobot | Since Mon Jul 16 15:08:52 2012, there have been 17 modifications, 323 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 210 commands. I have been awake for 5d 6h 38m 30s this session, and currently reference 118651 factoids. I'm using about 24096 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1522.95/30.94 child 0.01/0 |
| 21:47.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~morons |
| 21:47.28 | infobot | ACTION cluebats some morons over the head |
| 21:47.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~moron |
| 21:47.35 | infobot | rumour has it, moron is someone that types long lines starting with "infobot" |
| 21:48.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: Since Mon Jul 16 15:08:52 2012, there have been 17 modifications, 323 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 210 commands. I have been awake for 5d 6h 38m 30s this session, and currently reference 118651 factoids. I'm using about 24096 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1522.95/30.94 child 0.01/0 |
| 21:49.13 | *** part/#maemo-ssu mirandir (~valentin@lec67-4-82-230-53-23.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:49.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | in former times she's been more punchy with her reaction to such stuff |
| 21:50.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-07-21 23:17:21] *** ChanServ gibt TimRiker Operator-Status. |
| 21:50.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | o.O |
| 21:50.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | waits for ibot vanishing for another patch |
| 21:51.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime |
| 21:51.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | only way to find out about her schizoid state |
| 21:52.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes she thinks she's apt, or ibot, or purl |
| 21:52.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks anyway, dear infobot, for helping with your factoids |
| 21:52.42 | infobot | no worries, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 22:00.44 | kerio | ~botsnack |
| 22:00.44 | infobot | aw, gee, kerio |
| 22:00.48 | kerio | =D |
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| 23:55.28 | luf | Ugh I wanted to go sleep 3 hours ago :(. But I almost finish with cleaning the obexd code written by me. So I'll restructure the patches and I'll be done tomorrow :) (of course I'll try to push as much changes as possible to obexd upstream). |
| 23:56.26 | ShadowJK | What kind of stuff are you doing on obexd? |
| 23:56.42 | ShadowJK | Are you familiar with bluetooth stuff in general too? I've always been wondering about something |
| 23:57.14 | ShadowJK | Whether you need special magic to make obex or other transfers "go" at the "3M" promised by BT2 or not |