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15:55.40merlin1991freemangordon, Pali, arcean, chem|st, MohammadAG, DocScrutinizer, andre__ ping
15:56.08freemangordonmerlin1991: pong
15:57.00freemangordonmerlin1991: btw any progress with luf's libcurl?
15:57.02andre__merlin1991, pong?
15:57.14merlin1991andre__: we'll have a meeting today if possible :)
15:57.21andre__uh, when?
15:57.25merlin1991thoguht you might be interested aswell :)
15:57.37merlin1991anywhere between now and midnight when the key players are online
15:57.43andre__I'll probably lurk, quite busy, but still want to read the backlog, sure :)
15:57.49andre__thanks!
15:58.30Palimerlin1991, pong
16:00.15freemangordon18:56 <freemangordon> merlin1991: btw any progress with luf's libcurl?
16:00.40merlin1991ah sry read it, head the answer mentally typed, it just didn't went to the keyboard :P
16:01.05merlin1991yes, I've applied the patches (with a bit of trickery) and will push them to gitoirous after I've done a test or two
16:01.25merlin1991bah typo day
16:03.30PaliI do not know when I will go away, so some my info:
16:03.48Palipatched osso-xterm working fine on my n900 - it can go to cssu-devel
16:04.02Palialso patched busybox can go to cssu-devel
16:04.12merlin1991Pali you can push anything you want to cssu-devel ;)
16:04.17merlin1991what's patched in that busybox?
16:04.25Paliportrait mode support
16:04.43Palibefore busybox show a lot of free lines
16:04.52Paliwhen you try to rotate
16:05.08Paliwith this patch forced rotation working
16:05.20merlin1991ah so you still have to force xterm to rotate?
16:05.28Paliyes
16:05.34Paliand is blacklisted
16:05.42Palibecause of that busybox error
16:05.51Palibash working fine
16:06.39kerioPali: does it work correctly with busybox-power?
16:06.43kerioalso, what's this cssu-devel?
16:06.46kerioi like the sound of it
16:06.52merlin1991kerio: obviously not :D
16:07.03merlin1991the same set of patches has to go into bs-power :)
16:07.16kerioby the way, why would anyone want to use osso-xterm in portrait?
16:07.19kerioyou have no keyboard there!
16:07.41merlin1991kerio: people are strange ;)
16:08.40Palikerio, I do not have busybox-power, so I do not know
16:09.09Palikerio, but you can enable forced rotation in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/... and remove osso-xterm from blacklist
16:09.28kerioPali: is there a way to forcibly *disable* portrait mode everywhere?
16:09.31Palikerio, and then you can test if busybox power working with rotation
16:09.33merlin1991Pali: I fear it's going to break installations of busybox power, but I can look into the packaging and write a fix to the instal scripts in case
16:09.46merlin1991kerio: orientation lock? :D
16:12.36MohammadAGmerlin1991, pong
16:13.09keriomerlin1991: another icon in the status area, ew :c
16:13.47Palikerio, button in status area or gconf-tool via xterm
16:14.09merlin1991hm we just need chem|st, then we can start
16:24.07Palimerlin1991, can you create busybox and upstart repository on gitorious cssu?
16:25.04merlin1991https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/busybox
16:25.27merlin1991https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/upstart
16:25.52kerioupstart?
16:25.56merlin1991dang where's chem|st
16:26.04merlin1991kerio: yes, mamemo uses upstart as init
16:26.08keriooic
16:26.27kerio...what's wrong with SysV init? :c
16:26.33chem|stpong
16:26.37kerioyay!
16:26.41keriohe's here!
16:26.44kerioeverybody is here!
16:26.45merlin1991MohammadAG, freemangordon still here?
16:28.14ShadowXkerio, upsart is mainly even orientated .... and to be honest sysV init sux :)
16:28.19keriono u sux
16:28.30kerioand what kind of event does boot time have?
16:28.39kerio"system booted, start *everything*"
16:29.17Palimerlin1991, code pushed
16:30.22merlin1991come on people don't pop in and out :D
16:30.30ShadowXkerio, no idea why maemo is using upstart init ..but you can think of upstart as sysV++ .... kind of
16:30.35MohammadAGmerlin1991, yes
16:30.45keriohm
16:31.08merlin1991freemangordon: you're last ;)
16:32.47freemangordonmerlin1991: I will be here in about 20-30 minutes
16:33.52keriobut... you're here right now!
16:33.57kerioyou just typed a message!
16:34.05kerioi saw it!
16:41.40DocScrutinizer51merlin1991: what's the meeting today now? gotta scheule my execution ;-)
16:42.14merlin1991DocScrutinizer51: somehwere around 19:00 (cet)
16:42.26DocScrutinizer51eeek
16:42.33DocScrutinizer51too early
16:43.05DocScrutinizer51dafaq, I'll simply leave office right now
16:43.14DocScrutinizer51a bit pissed anyway
16:44.12chem|st;)
16:44.22chem|stsounds like me 45mins ago
16:44.53kerio:c
16:47.23MohammadAGmerlin1991, gnome-shell doesn't pop notifications
16:47.33MohammadAGso I only get highlights on my iPhone
16:47.38merlin1991lol
16:48.45keriosee? Apple is great!
16:48.49kerioflees
16:49.37merlin1991kerio: you traitor :D
16:50.06keriome? he (MohammadAG)'s the one with an iPhone
16:53.00freemangordonmerlin1991: Now I am here
16:54.14merlin1991whatabout the rest? chem|st, Pali, MohammadAG, DocScrutinizer51 ?
16:54.22chem|st1
16:54.26Palihere
16:54.26DocScrutinizer51ok, I'm semi-available for next +-40min
16:54.40MohammadAGhere
16:54.42DocScrutinizer51then fully available
16:55.51merlin1991freemangordon: I belive you have something to say?
16:56.17freemangordonmerlin1991: sure :)
16:56.45freemangordonMohammadAG: what has happened with those thumb-compiled binaries in latest CSSU update?
16:57.46MohammadAGthey stayed there, every time I could update gnome-vfs you say there are other thumb binaries
16:57.47freemangordonAnd a bit more general question: MohammadAG, are you still a functioning maintainer of CSSU-T?
16:57.57MohammadAGI'm not sure
16:58.09freemangordonno, the last time we discussed that you said you're going to fix all of them
16:58.28MohammadAGI said I was going to upload gnome-vfs, then you said there were other binaries
16:58.29freemangordonnow, we have a problem here
16:58.31MohammadAGso that didn't happen
16:59.44DocScrutinizer51general notion seems: cssu-t maintenance needs some more manpower
16:59.53DocScrutinizer51y whatever mean
16:59.54DocScrutinizer51s
17:00.09freemangordonwell, before solving the thumb issue, I think we should solve the general problem
17:00.14freemangordonDocScrutinizer51: :nod:
17:00.16MohammadAGindeed
17:00.58MohammadAGso, two maintainers or one is the question?
17:01.00DocScrutinizer51MohammadAG: I'd suggest you ask for, or accept offered support/co-maintainer
17:01.18MohammadAGI never rejected any offers
17:01.24MohammadAGat least I don't recall I have
17:01.48DocScrutinizer51i don't see a reason to deprive MohammadAG rom maintainer status
17:02.01merlin1991MohammadAG: I think 2 or 1 depends on how much of your time you still want to invest into the maemo cssu
17:02.12merlin1991also I agree with doc
17:02.25freemangordonnoone asks for mag's removal, AIUI
17:02.29DocScrutinizer51but I'd urgently suggest merlin1991 takes comaintainership of T
17:02.55freemangordonDocScrutinizer51: you'd better ask merlin if he has the time needed to do that
17:03.06DocScrutinizer51if you'd accept that, merlin1991
17:04.14DocScrutinizer51well, if there's too much workload from S for merlin1991 then I think I heard chem|st would be willing to take comaintainership for S
17:04.33freemangordonchem|st: ^^^ ?
17:04.53DocScrutinizer51so we'd have two maintainers for each flavour
17:05.05chem|st1
17:05.22DocScrutinizer51rather 1.5 mainainers per distro
17:05.37freemangordon~1
17:05.38infobot1 is a number, silly
17:05.46freemangordonthanks bot
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17:06.13chem|st~+1
17:06.13infobot1 is a number, silly
17:06.20chem|sthehe
17:06.59DocScrutinizer51thanks infobot
17:06.59infobotde nada, DocScrutinizer51
17:07.11freemangordonmerlin1991, chem|st: would you please give a more deffinitive answer, so we can move on
17:08.00DocScrutinizer51yep, me need an 'official' I accept
17:08.23merlin1991I agree
17:08.25chem|stI accept
17:08.25DocScrutinizer51we nee an official "i accept"
17:08.39DocScrutinizer51\o/
17:08.48DocScrutinizer51:)
17:08.57DocScrutinizer51MohammadAG: fine with you?
17:09.12MohammadAGYes, fine by me
17:09.19MohammadAGso is that 2 more, or 1?
17:09.35freemangordon2 more AIUI
17:09.37merlin1991it's you and me for T and chemist and me for S
17:09.41DocScrutinizer51so you 3 guys will know whom too ping to make that clear
17:10.50freemangordonoops, 1 more , infobot was right :D
17:10.57DocScrutinizer51we got one more mapower, two more roles
17:11.10DocScrutinizer51manpower
17:11.38DocScrutinizer51new role? merlin1991 maintains T
17:11.56freemangordon1 more person
17:11.59DocScrutinizer51new role? chem|st maintains S
17:12.16freemangordon:nod:
17:13.12DocScrutinizer51remaining roles: moh for T and merlin1991 for S
17:13.24freemangordonso, we only need an "official" "I swear I am ok" from chem|st and merlin1991 and we're ready to go
17:13.40chem|sto.O
17:14.02DocScrutinizer51we already had that
17:14.17freemangordonsorry, i missed it
17:14.18DocScrutinizer51so let's move on
17:14.51chem|stputs his left hand on his n900 and his right on his n9 and starts calling souls from hell
17:15.07freemangordonyeah, that is what I was talking about
17:15.53freemangordonanyway, we have at least one thumb-compiled binary in latest T
17:15.55chem|stI missed 2 auctions and lost on 3... I'd like to get another n900...
17:16.01DocScrutinizer51fine, can we move on?
17:16.38freemangordonmy suggestion is to have a new update with all the stuff from latest re-compiled.
17:16.55DocScrutinizer51chem|st: noted
17:17.18DocScrutinizer51I'll pin you in case...
17:17.47DocScrutinizer51and getrid of damn operator widget dep hell
17:18.12chem|stDocScrutinizer51: business as usual
17:18.46DocScrutinizer51afk for 10 min
17:19.08DocScrutinizer51I'll read backscroll @home
17:19.14freemangordonarcean, Pali, merlin1991: is there something ready for T? since the last update?
17:19.38merlin1991there's a bunch of things from Pali to be merged
17:19.52freemangordonbut those are for devel afaik
17:19.55arceanke-recv?
17:20.13freemangordonhmm, what is fixed?
17:20.18freemangordonin ke-recv
17:20.34arceanhmm, Pali^
17:20.37Paliit is for devel too
17:20.40Paliautomounting ntfs
17:20.44Pali(fixed)
17:21.09Paliand auto usb network mode in pc suite mode (when user create file /etc/something...)
17:21.50freemangordonmerlin1991: is it a good idea to hold the update so libcurl to be included too?
17:22.04kerioautomounting ntfs? neat
17:22.05keriowith ntfs-3g?
17:22.20Palino, with kernel driver
17:22.30Palikerio, also fix for other parittions type
17:22.50Palithere is bug that sometimes hal does not send fs type
17:23.02freemangordonmerlin1991: after all we can't do much of a testing besides it works/not
17:23.14Paliso when ke-recv send empty fstype, mount script will ask blkid for fstype
17:23.34PaliI know what should go to testing
17:23.46freemangordonand it is?
17:23.50Paliupdated tvout package which move package from section user/*
17:23.51merlin1991Pali: did you write the call to blkid in a way that it does not use the cache? (there's a parameter for that)
17:24.10Palimerlin1991, I think no
17:24.39merlin1991the blkid cache contains all sorts of evil, so better change that to use that option
17:24.51Paliplease look at tvout status menu plugin and push new version (which only move package from section user/desktop to nonuser)
17:25.00Palimerlin1991, ok
17:25.08DocScrutinizer06k, back
17:25.23Paliblkid:  -c <file>   cache file (default: /etc/blkid.tab, /dev/null = none)
17:27.38DocScrutinizer06:nod:
17:27.45DocScrutinizer06gave us days of laughter
17:27.52DocScrutinizer06;-P
17:27.53keriowhat's the blkid cache?
17:28.01DocScrutinizer06BS
17:28.25DocScrutinizer06the idea of a crackhead
17:29.20DocScrutinizer06kerio: blkid caches the results of last system scan / last invocation in some private file and reuses them ininitely
17:29.21merlin1991kerio: blkid gives you detail information about your partitions, and it has a cache which stores all kinds of evil :D
17:29.29kerioi see
17:29.46freemangordonhmm, and what with cbs-widget?
17:29.55merlin1991creates nice phantom / invalid partitions when you don't call it with the proper commandline
17:30.10DocScrutinizer06freemangordon: kill it for now?
17:30.15keriocbs-widget needs to go, but this is not my 2c, this is my 0.0000000002c
17:30.19DocScrutinizer06or move it to optional?
17:30.44DocScrutinizer06or rename so it replaces original instead of conflicting with it?
17:30.52freemangordonif we kill it now, it will never make it again (if you ask me), so decide wisely
17:31.15merlin1991it actually does not conflict with the original
17:31.24merlin1991it only conflicts with the other "custom" one
17:31.28DocScrutinizer06I'd opt for moving it to optional, but aiui merlin1991hasn't finished that yet ;-)
17:31.59merlin1991basically what we have todo is to move the patched lib into its own package and then have a user decision on the actual widget package
17:31.59DocScrutinizer06IANAP
17:32.14DocScrutinizer06i aint not a packager
17:32.20DocScrutinizer06so nfc
17:32.32merlin1991so we have libcurl
17:32.46merlin1991recompiled osso-gnome-vfs
17:32.57DocScrutinizer06merlin1991: could you take a note on your last post pelase
17:33.01DocScrutinizer06please
17:33.50DocScrutinizer06throws off shoes and jacket
17:34.07freemangordonmerlin1991: not only  osso-gnome-vfs
17:35.35freemangordonmerlin1991: one need to check all of the binaries from the latest update for being thumb-compiled
17:36.18merlin1991yes, but we know osso-gnome-vfs for sure, so that has to be done asap
17:36.27freemangordondo we have a list of updated packages?
17:36.29DocScrutinizer06is there a reliable tool meanwhile to spot thumb binaries
17:36.31DocScrutinizer06?
17:36.57freemangordonhmm, lemme try to find the bug
17:38.15merlin1991freemangordon: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#T-maemo4 is accurate
17:38.30DocScrutinizer06hell, there must be some sort of fingerprint to spot thumb binaries from arm binaries, no?
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17:41.10DocScrutinizer05hmm
17:41.21DocScrutinizer05so would you mind me shooting myself now?
17:41.42freemangordonthere was some method described on bugs.maemo.org
17:42.14DocScrutinizer05great, i'd just use a .45 on the forehead
17:43.36merlin1991WTF
17:43.44merlin1991libcurl has builddepends of openssh-server
17:46.41merlin1991hm seems I'll have to bounce it back to luf again
17:49.00freemangordonhttps://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10333
17:49.02povbotBug 10333: Thumb feature is not enable in the PR1.2 ROM
17:50.07DocScrutinizer05wtf? bug: ...is NOT enable...?
17:50.14freemangordonYou can find components using thumb functions with something like this: readelf -s $file | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ":[0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] "
17:50.31freemangordonaccording to comment 4
17:50.38DocScrutinizer05hmmmmm
17:50.52DocScrutinizer05aaaah
17:50.56DocScrutinizer05I see
17:51.02DocScrutinizer05makes sense
17:51.13freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: what do you think, it is above my scripting abilities
17:51.31DocScrutinizer05hmm?
17:51.50freemangordonwell, I am lazy :)
17:51.50DocScrutinizer05it searches in readelf output for functions starting at impair addr
17:52.07freemangordonaah
17:52.13freemangordonyeah, makes sense
17:52.44DocScrutinizer05though I wonder if thumb functions actiually START at impair addr or just the jumps to those thumb functions are to impair addr, while the actual target is one off
17:53.17freemangordonyeah, the functions start at pair address
17:53.28DocScrutinizer05umm, prolly not
17:53.54DocScrutinizer05probably thumbified functions actually start their code at impair addr
17:54.22DocScrutinizer05since any jump to a pair addr in thumb code would switch back to ARM, no?
17:54.57DocScrutinizer05and actually packing could make impair function start addr for thumb, that's the whole rationale of BX aiui
17:55.00freemangordonno, LSB is the one that is in charge
17:55.15freemangordonbut it is ignored
17:55.29freemangordonwhen the address is calculated
17:55.32DocScrutinizer05so what now? is it ignored or not?
17:55.36freemangordonit is
17:56.02DocScrutinizer05then no function label will ever start at an impair addr, and obove search is BS
17:56.40DocScrutinizer05wait, maybe that's the function jump / call, not the function label?
17:57.20DocScrutinizer05hmm
17:58.03DocScrutinizer05:0089ef81   is a label, no?
17:58.25DocScrutinizer05== grep ":[0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] "
17:58.32freemangordonhmm
17:59.39DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: could you do me a favour and readelf -s yourACMEthumb_binary|pastebin
17:59.59freemangordonbut i don't see readelf on n900, lemme check in VM
18:00.10DocScrutinizer05get it with binutils
18:00.21DocScrutinizer05iirc
18:00.36merlin1991yep need binutils for it
18:00.48freemangordonok, will do it in SB
18:00.50DocScrutinizer05or you run the cmd on your favourite PC
18:01.00DocScrutinizer05no need for SB
18:01.13freemangordonno other favourite PC with linux :)
18:01.17DocScrutinizer05readelf should work platform agnostic I'd think
18:05.59DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# readelf -s /bin/devlocktool |pastebinit
18:06.01DocScrutinizer05THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED. Please use Pastebin's new API. http://pastebin.com/api
18:06.10kerioDocScrutinizer05: hahahahaha
18:06.11DocScrutinizer05FSCK U pastebin.com!
18:07.24DocScrutinizer05anyway, you even may paste it to a /query to me, freemangordon
18:07.55merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: as I told you swap the url for the bloody pastebin ;)
18:08.09freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: lemme try it here first, but what I see sofar is that addresses start at /4 offset :(
18:08.19DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
18:08.21DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
18:08.22DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
18:08.49DocScrutinizer05seems like *my* /bin/devlocktool has all pair addr in there
18:10.10freemangordonhmm, "715: 0000b8b9   764 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT   10 main"
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18:11.15freemangordonbut the last grep does not work for some reason
18:12.32freemangordonseems grep in SB is broken somehow
18:13.12merlin1991works on device
18:13.42freemangordonmerlin1991: grep?
18:14.02merlin1991the whole grep thingy from the bug report
18:14.09merlin1991readelf -s $file | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ":[0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] "
18:14.32DocScrutinizer05715: .* FUNC
18:15.24DocScrutinizer05errr
18:15.59DocScrutinizer05dafaq, there's a space between ":" and first digit of addr
18:16.35DocScrutinizer05look at >>  5: 0000894c   924 FUNC ...
18:17.11freemangordon<PROTECTED>
18:17.18freemangordondoes the job
18:17.55merlin1991that ones is a bad regex
18:18.13freemangordonwell, it should be one liner
18:19.12freemangordonanyway, function offsets are +1, i.e. odd
18:20.14freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^
18:20.32freemangordonwe need space in regex
18:20.49freemangordoni.e. [ 0-9a-f]
18:21.50merlin1991i think the regex is cleaner if the space goes between : and the selection for numbers
18:22.01freemangordonyep
18:22.03freemangordonreadelf -s hildon-home.launch | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ": [0-9a-f]*[13579bdf]"
18:22.04merlin1991thus: readelf -s $FILE | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ": [0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] "
18:22.12freemangordon:D
18:22.27merlin1991boots nonthumb n900 to check files
18:22.53DocScrutinizer05readelf -s /bin/devlocktool |grep '^ *[0-9]*: [0-9abcdef]*[13579bdf] *[0-9]* FUNC'
18:23.05merlin1991hm best way to find all binaries on the fs?
18:23.26merlin1991also, does anybody have an idea which one of my n900s has -T on it? :D
18:23.35freemangordonfind -t=x?
18:23.36merlin1991when they are all powered down it's hard to know xD
18:24.26DocScrutinizer05find $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /")
18:25.05DocScrutinizer05or sth like that
18:26.37merlin1991hm can only find a type for file there's not one for binary
18:26.43DocScrutinizer05find $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g")
18:26.44freemangordonyeah :(
18:27.58DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# find $(echo $PATH|sed "s/:/ /g")|wc -l
18:28.00DocScrutinizer05find: "/usr/sbin/gnu": No such file or directory
18:28.01DocScrutinizer051378
18:28.22merlin1991hah found it a proper way
18:28.38freemangordonunfortunately most if the .so files does not have x bit set
18:28.49freemangordonmerlin1991: ?
18:28.54freemangordonhow?
18:28.58DocScrutinizer05yep, .so was what occured to me as well this very moment
18:29.07merlin1991readelf -h
18:29.18DocScrutinizer05??
18:29.18merlin1991should be considerable cheap and does return 1 if not a binary
18:29.34merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: that should only print the elf header of the file (if htere is one)
18:29.41DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: you don't want to check ALL files of your device?
18:29.48merlin1991well i'M bored?
18:29.50freemangordonhe wants ;)
18:30.00DocScrutinizer05lol
18:30.18freemangordonmerlin1991: you could attach USB cable, so mydocs gets unmounted
18:30.30merlin1991or just rund umount ;)
18:30.36merlin1991s/rund/run/
18:30.37freemangordonand you will have enough juice :P
18:30.37DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: you should check if your method works for .so
18:31.05merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: it does
18:31.28DocScrutinizer05then don't forget to |tee
18:31.29freemangordonmerlin1991: well, you could unmount and attach charger, but plugging usb cable is easier
18:31.45merlin1991hm if I have echo "something | tool#1 && tool#2  can I somehow have the piped stuff in tool#2 aswell?
18:31.59merlin1991s/"//
18:32.42DocScrutinizer05err wut?
18:32.53DocScrutinizer05tee --help? maybe?
18:33.16DocScrutinizer05aaah
18:33.35merlin1991I need the input left from the pipe in both tools right from the pipe
18:33.35DocScrutinizer05named pipe
18:34.00DocScrutinizer05mkfifo
18:34.02merlin1991I'll need an example :D
18:34.19DocScrutinizer05mkfifo /tmp/foobar
18:35.13DocScrutinizer05echo xyz | tee /tmp/foobar|tool1 &;  cat /temp/foobar|tool2
18:36.56DocScrutinizer05or the other way round
18:37.03DocScrutinizer05mkfifo foobar
18:37.14DocScrutinizer05cat foobar|tool2&
18:37.30DocScrutinizer05echo xyz | tee foobar|tool1
18:38.08DocScrutinizer05I forgot if you start with reading or with writing on a fifo
18:39.01DocScrutinizer05probably with writing as otherwise reading process wouldn't know which EOF is the right one
18:40.03merlin1991hm coming to think of it, it's actually not what I want :D
18:40.19DocScrutinizer05A process can open a FIFO in non-blocking mode.  In this case, opening for read only will succeed even if no-one has opened on the write side yet, opening       for write only will fail with ENXIO (no such device or address) unless the other end has already been opened.
18:40.55merlin1991I need to input the paths from find into readelf -h $FILE && readelf -s $FILE ....
18:41.15merlin1991I think I'll better user xargs + a scripts
18:41.22merlin1991s/scripts/script
18:41.22freemangordonawk?
18:41.36DocScrutinizer05or a temprary file with all your filenames fromn find
18:42.10merlin1991am I remembering right, that $0 is name of the running script?
18:42.17DocScrutinizer05yep
18:42.36DocScrutinizer05unless it's "bash"
18:42.46merlin1991what happens then?
18:43.11DocScrutinizer05bash -c myscript will have bash in $0 iirc
18:43.52DocScrutinizer05generally $0 is the first lexem on cmdline
18:43.53freemangordonhaha
18:44.07freemangordonreadelf -A $FILE
18:44.16freemangordonTag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-2
18:44.38freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: , merlin1991 ^^^
18:44.45merlin1991hah that soudns easier :)
18:44.47DocScrutinizer05o.O
18:44.53DocScrutinizer05and more sane
18:45.02freemangordonwell, that is binutils 2.22
18:45.08freemangordonmerlin1991: try it on n900
18:45.46merlin1991currently adding binutils to n900
18:45.58freemangordonfrom extras-devel?
18:46.05merlin1991from sdk repo
18:46.38freemangordonok
18:47.10freemangordonworks too
18:47.13DocScrutinizer05just wonders why he never seen this Tag_THUMB_ISA_use on the allegedly thumbified modest binary he hammered with all flavours of readelf and whatnot else
18:48.33DocScrutinizer05I spend several hours on that until I gave up and concluded there's no proper way to find out of thumbification directly and verbatim
18:48.49freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: NFC, but lemme check osso-gnome-vfs
18:49.03merlin1991freemangordon: it says thumb1 on my t device
18:49.11merlin1991thumb2 on my thumb device
18:49.29freemangordonwhich one?
18:49.41freemangordonasso-gnome-fvs?
18:50.02merlin1991osso-gnome-vfs
18:50.18merlin1991but Tag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-1 is on all binaries I have
18:50.24freemangordondamn :(
18:50.33DocScrutinizer05AHAAA
18:50.36DocScrutinizer05:-/
18:50.56DocScrutinizer05well, I'm not completely braindamaged then
18:50.59freemangordonso, back to scripting
18:51.05freemangordonhehe
18:51.20merlin1991err this is getting interesting
18:51.39freemangordonmerlin1991: which one?
18:51.40merlin1991osso-gnome-vfs on my -testing device does not have the stuff that the grep results in anything
18:51.57merlin1991only on my -thumb device the grep has a result
18:52.42freemangordonmerlin1991: could you pastebin the result from readelf -s on your -testing device?
18:53.13merlin1991http://paste.debian.net/179521/
18:53.24freemangordonand ls -al of .so
18:54.30freemangordondamn, maybe it is interworked :(
18:54.35freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^
18:54.44merlin1991-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        339112 Apr 10  2012 /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0.1600.3
18:55.22freemangordon"Apr 10  2012" ?
18:56.04freemangordonmerlin1991: are you sure it is not on -stable branch?
18:56.35merlin1991ii  mp-fremantle-community 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1  Community SSU package, includes latest fixes from Gitorious
18:56.42merlin1991wtf
18:56.44merlin1991it's not on T4
18:56.49merlin1991headdesks
18:57.00keriohaha
18:57.11freemangordonversion (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo4; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 / - Set by merlin1991 at 02:59 on Вторник 12 Юни 2012
18:57.40merlin1991runs the update
18:57.44merlin1991I feel silly now :P
18:58.00DocScrutinizer05I feel ghosty now
18:58.08merlin1991why ghosty?
18:58.09DocScrutinizer05ghosts himself
18:59.16merlin1991hm wrong ham on the device
18:59.46merlin1991ah yeah I remember
18:59.56merlin1991I didn't update to T4 in order to be able to easily test palis patches
19:07.39merlin1991hm
19:07.40merlin1991find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 ./thumbtest.sh
19:07.50merlin1991with readelf -h $1 && readelf -s $1 | grep -v "00000001" | grep FUNC |grep ": [0-9a-f]*[13579bdf] " > /dev/null && echo $1
19:07.56merlin1991in the script
19:07.58merlin1991that should work
19:08.14kerioor just -exec
19:08.15kerio:/
19:08.40merlin1991exec not suitable here, since I need to execute a complex statement
19:08.55kerioi mean
19:09.11kerio-exec sh thumbtest.sh "{}" ";"
19:09.32merlin1991;D
19:09.36merlin1991that's almost the same xD
19:09.54merlin1991but iirc busybox find has no -exec
19:10.21keriothat's why you have /usr/bin/gnu early in your PATH
19:10.25keriolike a doc
19:11.52merlin1991okay osso-gnome-vfs is now thumb
19:12.03kerioand that's bad
19:12.39DocScrutinizer05except messybox find doesn't support -exec
19:13.11DocScrutinizer05aah you already said that
19:13.22freemangordonmerlin1991: what is the result of readelf -A ?
19:13.51merlin1991thumb2
19:14.27freemangordonand for the others? thumb1?
19:14.43merlin1991yes
19:15.13freemangordonso, after all we have a more human readable thumb2 criteria
19:17.10freemangordonmerlin1991: could you run that on libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0
19:17.33freemangordoni think it is in /opt/
19:18.07merlin1991don't have it
19:18.14merlin1991gotta go for dinner, bbl
19:19.24freemangordonmerlin1991: "/opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins"
19:20.07freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: ^^^ ?
19:21.32DocScrutinizer51hm?
19:22.38freemangordoncould you run readelf -A against  /opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins/ libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0
19:23.27DocScrutinizer51that line is"mt c+p able
19:24.04DocScrutinizer51well could try deleting 'against'
19:24.15freemangordon"readelf -A  /opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins/libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0"
19:30.47DocScrutinizer51readelf: Error: ' /opt/maemo/usr/lib/sharing/plugins/libfacebooksharingservice.so.0.0.0': No such file
19:31.22DocScrutinizer51and that's the way I like it ;P
19:32.53merlin1991hm xargs doesn't like me today
19:34.26merlin1991or find
19:36.14merlin1991or busybox
19:38.09DocScrutinizer51fsck messybox
19:38.33merlin1991if I put an echo $1 into my script
19:38.39merlin1991and do a find . | xargs ./myscript
19:38.42kerioDocScrutinizer05: i don't think fsck can fix it
19:38.43DocScrutinizer51~messybox
19:38.43infobotmessy... err busybox is meant for lean scripting. Regarding all the missing options and immanent limitations (see su) it's not really the interactive shell of choice. A lot of people hate busybox because a lot of system integrators don't understand the difference between busybox and a decent user interactive shell plus unix utils
19:38.46merlin1991I only get the first line from find back
19:40.01DocScrutinizer51merlin1991: use tmpfiles
19:40.16merlin1991hah xargs -0n 1
19:40.21DocScrutinizer51dang, no 10k lines prolly
19:40.26merlin1991silly though that I have todo that
19:42.18merlin1991okay it's running
19:42.34merlin1991and It's already getting odd
19:43.33merlin1991but it's finally running properly
19:43.53merlin1991find /usr /lib /bin /home -type f -print0 | xargs -0n 1 ./thumbtest.sh 2>/dev/null | tee thumbs.txt
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19:46.26merlin1991hm now that I think of it I should have pushed the current file to stderr so I see where it is :/
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19:47.53merlin1991uh oh, a few in here are really bad
19:47.54DocScrutinizer51tee &2
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19:48.59merlin1991http://paste.debian.net/179532/
19:50.16freemangordonHAM?
19:50.20merlin1991it's ham and gnomevfs
19:50.21freemangordonwhy7 is that?
19:50.25merlin1991nfc
19:50.30merlin1991but it feels baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
19:50.59keriooh god why
19:51.13kerioinstalls kp51 RIGHT FUCKING NOW
19:51.26kerioPali: PUSH IT GOOD
19:51.39merlin1991kerio: I don't see the reason for that :D
19:51.48Palikerio, there are problems on autobuilder
19:51.49keriomerlin1991: thumb errata workaround?
19:51.55Paliit cannot compile kp51
19:51.55merlin1991:D
19:52.05PaliI will look at it later
19:52.17Palinow compiling xbmc for rpi :-)
19:52.32merlin1991wonders if ham is a false positive or really thumb
19:52.35Pali(I cannot compile all at one time)
19:52.39merlin1991Pali: you got an rpi?
19:52.56Palimerlin1991, yes
19:52.58freemangordonmerlin1991: 20.2010.36-2maemo14 (11.04.2011) was the last HAM update according to changelog
19:53.02merlin1991I finally managed to order one 2 days ago, thus yay anotehr 11 weeks
19:53.22PaliI ordered in april and got it last week
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19:53.49merlin1991dang luf
19:53.52merlin1991hopping in and out
19:55.23freemangordonmerlin1991: besides HAM we have /usr/libexec/apt-worker.real too, i don't believe both are false positives
19:56.00merlin1991hm lemme recompile ham on my sb and see if it still detects it then
19:56.07freemangordon"/usr/bin/maemo-confirm-text.launch" is part of HAM package too
19:56.21merlin1991yeah I know everything not osso gnomvfs is ham
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20:00.39Palimerlin1991, can I push all my cssu patches packages to cssu-devel?
20:01.00kerioPali: why not testing? :D
20:01.00merlin1991Pali: you can push whatever you want to to cssu-devel :)
20:01.08merlin1991it's meant to be living on the edge
20:01.14Paliok
20:01.34Palithen I will push also problematic HAM
20:01.53Palithen I will see what will do patched HAM if will be installed from *trusted* repository
20:03.00merlin1991btw Pali the patch to add cssu repos to trusted, was that part of the enabler or ham?
20:03.03merlin1991or both?
20:03.46Paliof enabler
20:03.54Palionly
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20:06.15merlin1991freemangordon: ham seems to be positive
20:06.29merlin1991my compile does not get detected
20:06.52kerioshit, HAM is important
20:06.59keriowhy does it... work, though?
20:07.54merlin1991because the problem with thumb is not that it always fails, but only from time to time
20:08.39freemangordon:nod:
20:08.59merlin1991kerio: ie. modest in cssu has been thumb for quite a long time
20:09.15merlin1991it worked, quite well but had unpredictable crashes once upon a time
20:09.20keriomerlin1991: yeah, and we see how that went
20:09.33kerioquite well=slow as shit?
20:09.53merlin1991well it doesn't crash anymore but is still slow as shit :D
20:10.01merlin1991so there is no difference there :P
20:10.11keriook
20:10.17kerioso... fixing HAM is important, i feel
20:10.21merlin1991indeed
20:10.38keriowill the update need HAM?
20:10.42keriothat could be a problem
20:10.52merlin1991update can be done by apt-get aswell
20:11.56merlin1991but kerio there have been quite a few cssu updates since we introduced the broken ham, so you'll be able to apply this ham update with ham aswell :)
20:11.56keriohm
20:12.07keriohm
20:12.25merlin1991actually 19 updates since it came :P
20:12.34kerio19 updates of what kind?
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20:12.44merlin1991cssu updates in general
20:13.05keriowell who gives a shit
20:13.05merlin1991broken ham came with 20.2010.36-2maemo14 (11.04.2011) and has been there ever since
20:13.14kerioi always apply those with fapman anyway :3
20:13.18merlin1991rofl
20:13.48keriowhich still has a fucking awesome name
20:16.00merlin1991hm I need to find another usb charger so I can charge my stable n900 aswell to see if there is any thumb stuff there (though I doubt that)
20:18.13merlin1991why is it that my n900s always run out of battery at the same time?
20:18.33merlin1991probably related to the fact that I usually charge them simultaniously :P
20:20.41freemangordonmerlin1991: you have compiled all of the stuff in -stable, ain't?
20:20.59merlin1991yep
20:21.22merlin1991doing it just in case, I'm pretty sure I know why mags stuff was thumb and mine wasnt
20:21.30freemangordon:nod:
20:22.15merlin1991when you install sb with the python installer it creates the target.ENVIRONMENT file
20:22.23freemangordonyeah
20:22.32merlin1991which in turn sets DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to soemthing like mamemo-launcher thumb ....
20:22.41freemangordonyep
20:22.50merlin1991and again some debian/rules files check for that "thumb" option
20:22.56freemangordonyes
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20:25.58merlin1991hey luf
20:25.59freemangordonluf: ping
20:26.01freemangordon:D
20:26.02keriohmm... who can you guys blame for this?
20:26.11merlin1991nokia is at fault :D
20:26.17merlin1991they provide that fsckd sb installer
20:26.44merlin1991when the manufacturer provided sdk already works against you, what can you do? :D
20:26.53lufHello.
20:27.20merlin1991luf: you'll have to work on the libcurl patches a bit
20:27.21luffreemangordon: pong :D
20:27.40lufmerlin1991: What's the problem?
20:27.47merlin1991I tried to actually build it today, and it does not build because of unmet dependencys
20:28.00lufwhat dependencies?
20:28.17freemangordonluf: hi
20:28.23MohammadAG<merlin1991> when you install sb with the python installer it creates the target.ENVIRONMENT file
20:28.29MohammadAGfyi, I use the shell scripts :p
20:28.46merlin1991luf: libgcrypt11-dev libidn11-dev openssh-server stunnel4
20:28.49freemangordonMohammadAG: why then you SB is screwed up
20:29.03MohammadAGfreemangordon, cause the sh scripts do that too I guess :P
20:29.25merlin1991I don't have a single .environment file :D
20:29.25lufmerlin1991: what about apt-get install? :)
20:29.30lufii  libgcrypt11-de 1.5.0~svn1440- LGPL Crypto library - development files
20:29.40merlin1991luf: those are in extras
20:29.50freemangordon:nod:
20:29.50merlin1991cssu must live from nokia ssu / sdk repo
20:30.10merlin1991thus either we can work around them or we need to include the libs into cssu
20:30.15freemangordonluf: why do we need that?
20:30.22lufIt's only build dependencies ...
20:30.30lufIt's from debian build package.
20:30.39keriothe more i read about maemo, the more it feels like a minefield
20:30.41keriofor everything
20:30.52freemangordonmerlin1991: could you build libcurl3 without those?
20:31.00merlin1991freemangordon: I have nfc
20:31.23lufI'll try to remove this build dependencies and let you know ...
20:31.39freemangordonmerlin1991: hmm, why don't you just edit debian/control?
20:32.09keriobtw, KP51 would've fixed this with no extra binaries
20:32.12lufBTW are someone interested in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59114&page=35 ?
20:32.19merlin1991freemangordon: because I want to know what happens if the lib is missing
20:32.36merlin1991just removing the dependency and hoping for the best is bound to backfire
20:33.47freemangordonmerlin1991: ok
20:34.09merlin1991luf: that's very interesting
20:34.25merlin1991I'm actually sitting on the code from the wiki page (obexd 0.37)
20:34.43MohammadAGmerlin1991, use -d
20:34.48MohammadAGand see if it fails
20:34.51freemangordonluf: why is that targeted to CSSU. Just asking for the reason, not saying it does not qualify.
20:35.01merlin1991but if your 0.46 works without sideeffect it's perfect
20:35.08merlin1991freemangordon: bluetooth stack is a system lib
20:35.10merlin1991thus cssu
20:35.15freemangordonaah, ok
20:35.25lufI also tried to upgrade bluez but it has some problems I can't go through yet.
20:35.42freemangordonluf: repo anywhere?
20:36.08luf0.46 has the the same buggy behaviour. But I hope it's fixed with eds patch.
20:36.23luffreemangordon: I have no public www/ftp server :(
20:36.38freemangordonluf: gitorious/github ;)
20:36.45merlin1991MohammadAG: instafail :D
20:37.17luffreemangordon: ok, I'll try it ...
20:38.34luffreemangordon: but it's not very good for .deb files ;)
20:38.47merlin1991luf: see pm
20:39.24freemangordonluf: I mean for the source code
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20:40.07luffreemangordon: I'm working with patches so I can easiely upgrade to new debian updates ...
20:40.34freemangordonluf: sure, but noone can contribute
20:41.05luffreemangordon: noone contribute longer than year or too ;)
20:41.15luffreemangordon: I understand.
20:50.05lufOk.
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20:59.03luffreemangordon: http://merlin1991.at/~luf/pbap/source/obexd/
21:06.37lufBTW I'm working on PBAP call history for maemo now. Is someone keen in rtcom/eds development?
21:09.51MohammadAG4.1 out
21:10.02merlin1991MohammadAG: you're the king :)
21:16.23merlin1991MohammadAG: just push the ham and ossognomevfs changes to gitorious aswell, then I'm happy .)
21:16.44MohammadAGI recall I did
21:17.13merlin1991blame gitorious
21:17.21merlin1991gnomevfs arrived now
21:17.26merlin1991ham still missing
21:21.40merlin1991ham arrived aswell, gitorious sucks as usual :D
21:27.15merlin1991feels like his rootfs is going to be full any time now
21:27.32merlin1991installing 195 new packages to test a bug in monodevelop that has been filed against cssu
21:30.45lufRemoving openssh-server: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
21:39.22MohammadAG--force-all ftw
21:39.37MohammadAGmerlin1991, let's move to github :D
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22:11.17lufmerlin1991: ping
22:11.24merlin1991luf: pong
22:11.36lufmerlin1991: fucking git :(
22:11.41merlin1991...
22:11.51lufgit apply runs but it doesn't do the job :(
22:11.57merlin1991what?
22:11.59merlin1991omfg
22:12.03lufI'm talking about curl.
22:12.22merlin1991yep I thought so :)
22:12.46lufI have no idea how to manage it with git :(
22:13.06lufI tried this way: git clone cssu-curl
22:13.24lufrm -rf cssu-curl/* cssu-curl/.pc
22:13.38merlin1991so far so good
22:13.49lufcp -aRp prepared-cssu cssu-curl
22:13.57lufgit commit -a -m "some log"
22:14.19merlin1991you probably have to add a few files ass well
22:14.26merlin1991so git add .
22:14.28lufcd cssu-curl; patch -p1 < ../maemo.diff
22:14.30merlin1991git commit -m "some log"
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22:15.14lufgit commit -a -m "Adopt ..."
22:15.32lufgit format-patch <version>
22:15.58lufThen I'm not able to git clone cssu-curl; cd cssu-curl; git am ...
22:16.07lufOk, I'll try.
22:17.14merlin1991btw are you doing that inside scratchbox or from outside?
22:21.36lufoutside.
22:22.14lufStill the same problem.
22:23.58merlin1991you could zip me up the prepared folder and the patch and I could have a go?
22:25.16lufFYI I don't fix the dependency yet.
22:26.00lufhttp://merlin1991.at/~luf/curl/ - still uploading.
22:26.25luftar.gz of the git prepared for format-patch.
22:26.46lufNow I dive into the dependencies ...
22:27.46lufuploaded
22:27.50lufcssu-curl-7.26.0.tar.gz
22:30.33lufcurl_7.26.0-1maemo1+cssu1.diff - diff is againist orig + debian dir from wheezy
22:31.07merlin1991hm you didn't catch all files
22:31.15merlin1991your tree contained a butload of untracked files
22:32.02lufgit add . isn't enough?
22:32.21merlin1991did you do that before or after running git commit ?
22:32.33merlin1991also you might have to repeate it before you commit the patch you applied
22:32.34lufBefore commit.
22:32.54lufBefore each commit.
22:33.03merlin1991anyway I did a 3rd commit with the rest and it still fails badly
22:34.14lufI also uploaded changelog now (it's manualy merged maemo + debian).
22:38.15merlin1991hm there must be bug in git
22:38.43lufI'm running fedora ...
22:38.55luf$ git --version
22:38.56lufgit version 1.7.7.6
22:39.15merlin1991I've got 1.7.9
22:39.22merlin1991still the same bs
22:40.30lufMaybe I can't use git as it hates me :D
22:40.59lufI'm compiling curl without the dependencies ...
22:43.12merlin1991hm I see no reason why git am should fail like it does
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23:18.57lufI'm uploading new version with removed extras dependecies.

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