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| 12:51.04 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
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| 15:11.31 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 15:12.34 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you are mirroring maemo-extras, ain't? |
| 15:12.43 | freemangordon | and extras-devel |
| 15:13.21 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 15:13.46 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/ |
| 15:13.46 | freemangordon | good boy :). Any chance to mirror sdk and tools repo? |
| 15:13.52 | merlin1991 | nope |
| 15:14.01 | merlin1991 | contains nokiabinaries |
| 15:14.15 | freemangordon | merlin1991: nokia binaries? |
| 15:14.20 | freemangordon | in sdk repo? |
| 15:14.28 | freemangordon | don't think so |
| 15:14.53 | freemangordon | is is the repo with the cryptic name that holds them |
| 15:15.34 | freemangordon | merlin1991: |
| 15:15.36 | freemangordon | # Repository for Nokia Binaries, added by Maemo 5.0 SDK Installer |
| 15:15.36 | freemangordon | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79 nokia-binaries |
| 15:16.06 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: yeah I guess I could mirror sdk and tools too |
| 15:16.08 | merlin1991 | but why? |
| 15:16.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1223230&postcount=31 |
| 15:17.06 | freemangordon | and the answer to "why" is "just in case" :p |
| 15:21.40 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: just in case I have all complete mirror in a private dir on the server |
| 15:21.41 | merlin1991 | (inlcuding nokia binaries) |
| 15:21.53 | freemangordon | merlin1991: great |
| 15:22.58 | freemangordon | that is sufficient for now (i guess you have FW images too) |
| 15:23.30 | merlin1991 | fw images I have at 2 pcs here at home :) |
| 15:23.35 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
| 15:23.45 | merlin1991 | aswell as sdk rootstraps and flasher |
| 15:23.45 | freemangordon | THST IS just in case |
| 15:24.06 | freemangordon | great, i feel relaxed |
| 15:24.28 | merlin1991 | hm actually I don't have the maemo rootstraps |
| 15:24.31 | merlin1991 | should dl them |
| 15:24.42 | merlin1991 | and back up the install instrucitons + debs aswell |
| 15:24.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you should have them in /scratchbox anyway |
| 15:24.50 | merlin1991 | will do so when I'm back in vienna |
| 15:24.57 | merlin1991 | dl speed here sucks ass |
| 15:26.12 | freemangordon | that's ok, I don't expect maemo.org to be shut down tomorrow |
| 15:26.36 | freemangordon | that would take at least 2-3 weeks |
| 15:26.38 | freemangordon | :D |
| 15:27.02 | merlin1991 | well we better be prepared |
| 15:27.03 | merlin1991 | I'll back everything needed to my handy 1tb external drive when I get back :) |
| 15:28.54 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok. I was thinking is it a good idea to buy a server here and setup some kind of autobuilder. After there is some more information what the future will bring (in the terms of timeframe of course) |
| 15:29.22 | merlin1991 | well together with sb we should be able to hack something together easily |
| 15:29.33 | freemangordon | yep |
| 15:29.46 | merlin1991 | and we could even get around nokia $lawyer |
| 15:30.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991: any clue how is COBS developing? |
| 15:30.06 | merlin1991 | if we don't provide the repos publicly but only provide a build service |
| 15:30.10 | merlin1991 | nfc |
| 15:30.17 | merlin1991 | or rather yes I know |
| 15:30.21 | merlin1991 | but I can't say where it is going |
| 15:30.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991: which sounds to me like it is going nowhere :( |
| 15:30.45 | merlin1991 | since cobs / obs on maemo.org are both hanging on similar budget problems |
| 15:31.10 | freemangordon | yeah, I was thinking the same |
| 15:31.16 | freemangordon | thus my question |
| 15:31.44 | merlin1991 | cobs is attached meego.com infrastructure (bound to go down within a year) and the maemo obs, well x-fade is working on that together with javispredro and a few but that is running on maemo.org infrastructure |
| 15:31.45 | merlin1991 | which also probably is going to be at least reduced |
| 15:33.02 | freemangordon | damn, sad times ahead :(. on the positive side, I am running X thumb-compiled on my primary device for few hours, NP for now. memory used by X is reduced from 7.5% to 6 % |
| 15:33.42 | merlin1991 | :) |
| 15:33.49 | freemangordon | my swap after 3 hours uptime is 65.8 MBs |
| 15:34.05 | freemangordon | RAM usage 139 MBs |
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| 16:47.30 | Raimu | freemangordon: Niiiice! The X one, that is, not the infra hell. |
| 16:58.17 | freemangordon | Raimu: yeah, unfortunately it SIGABORTed before a couple of minutes, going to look in coredump to see what exactly is screwed up by gcc 4.6.2 :( |
| 16:59.25 | Raimu | I see! |
| 16:59.55 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: how fluent are you in python? |
| 17:01.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991: it is a foreign language for me, something like a mixture between japanese and chinese :D |
| 17:01.48 | merlin1991 | okay :D |
| 17:02.15 | merlin1991 | because I was thinking of hacking the autobuilder together in python xD |
| 17:02.59 | freemangordon | sorry, can't help. anything c/c++ you're welcome |
| 17:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually we should make sure to backup $* now, to several mirrors |
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| 17:35.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: could you assist me in doing a private backup on my box? |
| 17:36.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe do it publically here, so others could do same |
| 17:38.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, even while we're maybe not supposed to redistribute Nokia binaries, we're free to do a private backup for personal use, given we're probably all Nokia customers |
| 17:41.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw now I know for sure why I didn't like that cenralized signing scheme of HARM. Nokia shutting down OVI, everybody @ HARM screwed :-S |
| 17:42.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I just wonder why it seems it's only me who's got that POV regarding aegis et al |
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| 18:24.24 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: for maemo see a post from pali on tmo |
| 18:24.26 | merlin1991 | it's a perl script |
| 18:33.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: link? |
| 18:34.04 | merlin1991 | guess why I wrote it that generic ;) |
| 18:34.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe |
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| 19:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq how am I supposed to find that post of pali? |
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| 19:40.18 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the script is called apt-mirror |
| 19:40.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno thread topic, nor date it been posted, I don't even know a single keyword to googlw for |
| 19:40.22 | merlin1991 | besides that nfc |
| 19:43.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75174 seems to be it |
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| 19:58.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, the howto and manpages are a bit thin on those scripts |
| 20:02.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | it even seems like I'm supposed to run those scripts on N900?! :-o |
| 20:03.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, seems it's way simpler to find out how to do this mirroring by myself, rather than to find my way thru those scripts |
| 20:07.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | but either is bejond what I'm willing to invest on time into helping here and now |
| 20:08.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe pali is able to explain how to run those scripts |
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| 20:10.08 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: there was another script which you can run on $linux |
| 20:11.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | somewhere... |
| 20:15.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | a common issue in FOSS community - nobody understands that docs are more important than code |
| 20:16.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | proper docs allow me to write working code in no time. Working code somewhere without any docs on what and how it does is basically useless |
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| 21:44.34 | Estel_ | merlin1991, ping |
| 21:44.46 | merlin1991 | Estel_: pong |
| 21:45.21 | Estel_ | merlin1991, could You, please, tell me if: |
| 21:46.07 | Estel_ | qt components base theme 0.8.0-2+0m5 |
| 21:46.09 | Estel_ | and |
| 21:46.57 | Estel_ | qt-components-10 , version 1.0-pre2-1+0m5 |
| 21:47.12 | Estel_ | (sorry for slow writing, doing it by hand on N900) |
| 21:47.24 | Estel_ | ...are part of latest CSSU-Testing? |
| 21:48.00 | Estel_ | if yes, for some reasons, they haven't been pulled automatically with upgrade |
| 21:48.06 | Estel_ | (in my case) |
| 21:48.38 | Estel_ | ^^^ merlin1991 |
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| 21:52.30 | merlin1991 | Estel_: not that I know of |
| 21:55.08 | Estel_ | hm, thanks |
| 21:55.35 | Estel_ | I see them in available updates for looong time...Appeared at the same time as cssu update |
| 21:55.39 | Estel_ | was wondering wtf |
| 21:56.09 | IronLegend | umm wtf: I have been updating to the lastest CSSU and now the fonts are fucked up. |
| 21:56.14 | IronLegend | everything is cubes lol |
| 21:56.53 | Estel_ | IronLegend, no such things here |
| 21:57.02 | Estel_ | aka works for me. |
| 21:57.11 | IronLegend | ah |
| 21:57.22 | IronLegend | does anyone know where the front files are located? |
| 21:58.16 | IronLegend | or how to reset the font stuffs? |
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| 22:16.46 | IronLegend | anyone here that can give me a quit help with something? |
| 22:18.57 | merlin1991 | ~ask |
| 22:18.57 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 22:22.46 | IronLegend | merlin1991: i dont think infobot knows what strings are supposed to be where in the backup menu |
| 22:23.14 | merlin1991 | though you still could have started with that question ;) |
| 22:23.20 | merlin1991 | sadly though I don't know the answer |
| 22:23.30 | IronLegend | yea now you say so.. |
| 22:24.19 | IronLegend | but if you have your phone handy can you try to create a new backup -> select all the boxes -> there should be a popup with 2 input fields, What do they want there..?? |
| 22:25.12 | merlin1991 | I don't have backupmenu installed |
| 22:26.00 | IronLegend | umm it should be in there with the default stuff that nokia ships |
| 22:26.23 | merlin1991 | ah you mean that backup |
| 22:26.28 | IronLegend | yup |
| 22:26.30 | merlin1991 | I suppose that is the prompt for password |
| 22:26.48 | merlin1991 | thus put 2 identical strings ;) |
| 22:26.59 | IronLegend | :) thanks |
| 22:28.27 | merlin1991 | btw I have a text there that tells me it wants a password |
| 22:28.34 | merlin1991 | any particular reason why you're missing that one? |
| 22:28.51 | IronLegend | umm no I just can not read it |
| 22:29.11 | IronLegend | i think a deleted all the localization data or something |
| 22:29.37 | IronLegend | if you like cubes a lot its perfect for you but i want to read what is said :) |
| 22:29.56 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 22:31.03 | IronLegend | so I am going to reflash everything an reinstall it was needed anyway :) |
| 23:09.12 | IronLegend | bah, installing a list of application is very hard for the backup tool :/ |
| 23:23.54 | IronLegend | I just remembered why I Never use the app manager.... |
| 23:30.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | still it's pretty handy especially for app restore |
| 23:31.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I doubt any other tool would be significantly faster on that job |
| 23:39.55 | IronLegend | yup |
| 23:40.08 | IronLegend | except that apprestore is broken somehow |
| 23:40.32 | IronLegend | it complains that I need to select apps but i can not select anything there is just a list of packages |
| 23:42.14 | IronLegend | anyway fixed it with bash magic :) |