| 00:02.11 | merlin1991 | come on, no 24/7 irc idlers in here anymore? |
| 00:26.19 | tadzik | insomnia standing by |
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| 00:27.30 | merlin1991 | tadzik: exactly ;) |
| 00:28.21 | tadzik | :) |
| 00:28.35 | tadzik | it's 2:28 here now |
| 00:28.46 | merlin1991 | same, where are you from? |
| 00:28.56 | tadzik | Warsaw, Poland |
| 00:29.08 | tadzik | and you? |
| 00:29.13 | merlin1991 | Vienna, Austria |
| 00:29.18 | tadzik | ha, quite close |
| 00:29.39 | tadzik | so while we're up, do you know if this word prediction thingy in maemo is open-sourced? |
| 00:29.46 | tadzik | so it guesses words when you type them |
| 00:30.00 | merlin1991 | yeah, I suppose it's part of the hildon framework |
| 00:30.11 | merlin1991 | since it seems to only work on the hildonized inputs |
| 00:30.26 | merlin1991 | maybe inside libhildon? |
| 00:30.41 | tadzik | I thought about writing something that would try to predict the whole phrases, if not sentences, by analying the message database sent so far |
| 00:31.04 | tadzik | it could be quite cool if it worked out |
| 00:31.43 | tadzik | so it would autocomplete "How about" to "How about[ a beer]" for example |
| 00:31.59 | merlin1991 | the db has to be somewhere in ~ becuase it remembers stuff after flashing rootfs |
| 00:32.19 | merlin1991 | (the one for the prediction I mean) |
| 00:32.30 | tadzik | and there's some package for editing the dictionary, so there is probably some sane interface to it |
| 00:32.42 | tadzik | so that may be possible, cool |
| 00:34.37 | tadzik | merlin1991: is there a git repo of libhildon somewhere? |
| 00:34.53 | merlin1991 | its in the cssu repo for example |
| 00:35.08 | merlin1991 | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon |
| 00:35.16 | tadzik | thanks |
| 00:35.28 | merlin1991 | though it might be in some completely different part of the hildon-framework |
| 00:35.32 | merlin1991 | I'm only guessing here :) |
| 00:35.58 | tadzik | ack will tell :) |
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| 00:42.41 | tadzik | haha this is awesome |
| 00:42.57 | tadzik | but it breaks when I try to make a screenshot |
| 00:43.08 | tadzik | damnit, hildon |
| 00:43.47 | merlin1991 | what did you do? |
| 00:43.58 | merlin1991 | also you can do a screenshot via ssh in order not to break stuff |
| 00:44.23 | tadzik | I'll show you the effect and then tell you what did I do :P |
| 00:47.08 | tadzik | merlin1991: http://i.imgur.com/nwmlw.jpg |
| 00:47.17 | tadzik | that's Polish for "are we going for a beer" |
| 00:47.39 | merlin1991 | how did you do it that fast? :D |
| 00:47.44 | tadzik | and the best part: that's achieved only using the AutoComplete editor |
| 00:47.57 | tadzik | which apparently uses gconf, as far as my python knowledge allows me to understand the code |
| 00:48.18 | tadzik | so the whole thing should be doable by merely editing the dictionary in gconf and putting full phrases there, not just words |
| 00:48.40 | merlin1991 | are you sure it's all within gconf? |
| 00:48.44 | tadzik | and the autocompletor seems to be doing longest-token matching itself |
| 00:48.49 | tadzik | no, I'm not :) |
| 00:48.51 | merlin1991 | that sounds slightly insane for a dictionary |
| 00:48.55 | tadzik | indeed |
| 00:49.10 | tadzik | oh, there it is |
| 00:49.15 | tadzik | dictionaryFile = QDir.homePath() + '/.osso/dictionaries/.personal.dictionary' |
| 00:50.09 | tadzik | so now I need to access message database somehow, and then turn my 10-line-long Perl prototype into something sensemaking |
| 00:51.09 | merlin1991 | I bet it's sqlite |
| 00:51.28 | tadzik | argh |
| 00:51.34 | tadzik | how come 'file' is not installed by default |
| 00:51.40 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 00:52.32 | tadzik | it seems not to be in the repo either |
| 00:52.49 | merlin1991 | maybe in the tools repo |
| 00:52.55 | merlin1991 | never tried to run file on the n900 :D |
| 00:53.19 | tadzik | I've stumbled upon it a few times before. Usually preceeded by "I wonder what that file's for" |
| 00:55.36 | tadzik | nah, sqlite doesn't grok it |
| 00:56.22 | tadzik | seems to be some custom format which autocompleteeditor is unpacking manually |
| 00:57.54 | merlin1991 | oh shit |
| 00:57.58 | merlin1991 | time to understand some code :D |
| 01:00.03 | tadzik | are you a python expert by any chance? :) |
| 01:00.17 | merlin1991 | I understand it to extends :D |
| 01:00.25 | merlin1991 | s/extends/some extend/ |
| 01:00.48 | tadzik | well, semantically it's similar to Perl, so it shouldn't be _too_ hard ;) |
| 01:16.11 | tadzik | merlin1991: could you show me 'hexdump -C <your dict> | head?' |
| 01:17.51 | merlin1991 | http://paste.debian.net/174028 |
| 01:18.08 | tadzik | thank you |
| 01:18.10 | merlin1991 | odd mix :D |
| 01:18.48 | tadzik | the beginning is not quite similar to mine though |
| 01:19.00 | tadzik | http://wklej.org/id/771703/ |
| 01:19.17 | tadzik | dang, I thought I could just blindly skip the first n bytes. Seems not :) |
| 01:19.29 | merlin1991 | I suppose the first butyes are a binary header |
| 01:19.48 | merlin1991 | probably casted directly to some struct in the code :) |
| 01:20.07 | tadzik | right |
| 01:20.19 | tadzik | okay, all hope is lost, I have to actually read this python code :) |
| 01:21.39 | RST38h | amused to find that "paste" has got its own word in Polish |
| 01:21.56 | tadzik | :) |
| 01:22.04 | tadzik | it's a verb form, this one |
| 01:23.11 | tadzik | is tempted to write his program in Perl 6 just to make it more insane |
| 01:23.21 | merlin1991 | :) |
| 01:54.26 | tadzik | oh crap |
| 01:54.33 | tadzik | isn't ARM middle-endian of some sort? |
| 01:55.43 | merlin1991 | phew |
| 01:55.48 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: would know :D |
| 01:56.03 | tadzik | this python module uses some crazy hacks to read the bytes from that file |
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| 03:04.00 | tadzik | merlin1991: ok, any idea where sms/im messages are kept? |
| 03:10.54 | tadzik | ok, found it, nvm |
| 05:27.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | ??? |
| 05:28.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I actually never heard of 'middle-endian' |
| 05:49.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | armel is arm_endian-little aiui |
| 05:50.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | there might be also armvb or sth like that |
| 05:56.18 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yeah, I found that too, but didn't get why the hell HAM and atp prefer virtual package over the real one |
| 05:56.21 | freemangordon | *apt |
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| 11:18.23 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: the way of apt and ham are never clearly understandable ;) |
| 11:22.57 | merlin1991 | sorry tadzik I went to bed yesterday (today) :D |
| 11:23.33 | freemangordon_ | yeah. sigh |
| 11:24.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991: now i made -pr to depend on kernel only, no kernel feaure dependency, but stupid apt pulls kernel-bootimg too |
| 11:25.38 | merlin1991 | you sure you only depend on the flasher? |
| 11:25.51 | freemangordon_ | yep |
| 11:26.18 | freemangordon_ | you can check in the .deb |
| 11:27.11 | merlin1991 | I checked on the Packages file ;) |
| 11:27.26 | merlin1991 | but yeah it's odd there is no dependency on bootimg |
| 11:27.48 | merlin1991 | ah I know |
| 11:27.56 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: all the other packages depend on the errata |
| 11:28.08 | freemangordon | yep |
| 11:28.14 | merlin1991 | and apt probably goes "I'm gonna get this awesum dependency" |
| 11:28.16 | freemangordon | but flashr provides it |
| 11:28.31 | freemangordon | i need a help on that |
| 11:28.32 | merlin1991 | just make the bootimg not provide it |
| 11:28.38 | freemangordon | but it provides it |
| 11:28.47 | merlin1991 | but apt is a bitch? |
| 11:28.54 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 11:29.33 | freemangordon | removing kernel feature from bootimg will break u-boot |
| 11:29.36 | merlin1991 | checks if there is some way to prioritise provides packages |
| 11:29.59 | freemangordon | maybe I should add kernel-flasher to all other packages |
| 11:30.28 | merlin1991 | uh no |
| 11:30.35 | merlin1991 | you know, that would break uboot ;) |
| 11:31.40 | freemangordon | I mean in the form kernel-flasher( >= ver ) | kernel-feature |
| 11:32.29 | merlin1991 | well afaik I did that to the mp |
| 11:32.39 | merlin1991 | and that pulled the bootimg ;) |
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| 12:03.44 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I know, guess why -pr is version -thumb6 :D |
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| 12:12.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: my idea was -pr to depend ONLY on kernel-flasher, while all other packages to depend on kernel-flasher( >= ver ) | kernel-feature, hoping apt will do the right thing |
| 12:14.58 | chem|st | freemangordon: ehrm following the SIGILL issue your tmo thread title is missleading?! or have you solved issues? |
| 12:15.28 | freemangordon | chem|st: which issues? |
| 12:15.53 | chem|st | thought you had issues with programs aborting and getting ill?! |
| 12:15.55 | freemangordon | there was a problem with metapackage leading to required kernel not being flashed |
| 12:16.04 | freemangordon | no |
| 12:16.12 | chem|st | so it is actualy stable? |
| 12:16.18 | freemangordon | so far |
| 12:16.19 | chem|st | just want to make sure |
| 12:16.21 | chem|st | ok |
| 12:16.46 | chem|st | had some [Announce] threads being -devel WIP lately |
| 12:17.43 | freemangordon | at least there is no report so far for any crashes (if the correct kernel is in place) while those guys with incorrect kernel are even unable to boot. Maybe as that question on the thread, I am interested in feedback too |
| 12:17.54 | freemangordon | *ask |
| 12:18.31 | freemangordon | but would prefer to not ask it by myself, I think some may "lie" to me, to not disappoint me :) |
| 12:18.56 | freemangordon | s/but would/I would/ |
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| 12:19.57 | freemangordon | chem|st: ^^^ |
| 12:44.51 | chem|st | freemangordon: pls elaborate, which question you want me to ask? |
| 12:48.23 | freemangordon_ | if everything is stable so far for those which have everything installed in place (i.e. correct kernel, etc) |
| 13:00.03 | chem|st | people will complain 'if not' as fast as noone can imagine, ever... as usual^^ |
| 13:09.08 | Raimu | freemangordon_: Everything's stable for me, but I never tried the mp, I just installed everything on the go. |
| 13:14.23 | freemangordon_ | Raimu, mp is just a metapackage, it is there so people could use HAM to install the stuff, so there is no difference for you. but you should have maemo update in HAM, ain't? |
| 13:14.38 | Raimu | freemangordon_: I do. |
| 13:15.00 | Raimu | Were there problems with the mp? Some people didn't get the kernel but did get the thumbed libs? |
| 13:15.00 | freemangordon_ | you could safely install it |
| 13:15.18 | freemangordon_ | you already have the kernel |
| 13:15.23 | Raimu | Yup. |
| 13:21.09 | merlin1991 | Raimu: yeah libs came in without kernel |
| 13:23.01 | Raimu | Ouch. |
| 13:23.35 | Raimu | Well, at least it's a pretty stark way of seeing how big a difference that fix is. :D |
| 13:25.37 | freemangordon | yeah :D |
| 13:26.40 | freemangordon | Raimu: but you'd better install -pr thing, as otherwise you won't have new stuff I am going to put in the repo automatically |
| 13:26.55 | Raimu | Hokay. |
| 13:37.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991: any idea how to evercome that dependency hell? |
| 13:37.42 | freemangordon | *overcome |
| 13:44.20 | merlin1991 | not really |
| 13:44.36 | merlin1991 | it's thanks to bootimg / flasher impossible for apt to decide properly |
| 13:46.43 | freemangordon | yeah :(. We need some .deb guru :) |
| 13:52.19 | freemangordon | merlin1991: is it possible that alphabetical order to have some importance? |
| 13:52.29 | merlin1991 | nfc |
| 13:52.40 | freemangordon | i.e. flasher is after bootimg |
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| 14:05.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991, I am going to change provides: for kernel-cssu-bootimage, I see no other way |
| 14:08.06 | freemangordon | that way you either will have to have KP(some future version) or CSSU kernel flashed, having bootimg won't be enough, but I just can't see any other way |
| 14:08.28 | freemangordon | what do you think? |
| 14:09.47 | freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW what about Replaces: kenel-omap1? |
| 14:09.58 | freemangordon | so we can free some rootfs space? |
| 14:10.48 | freemangordon | after all you just can't boot with omap1 kernel once you have thumb binaries installed |
| 14:15.22 | merlin1991 | makes sense |
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| 14:22.13 | kent_autistic | what handles the context menu? the press and hold pop up |
| 14:22.50 | kent_autistic | is it hildon-home? |
| 14:22.59 | MrPingu | Installing CSSU-T, thumb is following :) |
| 14:27.04 | MrPingu | How to set frequencies and dsp frequencies when kernel-power settings aren't compatible with kernel-cssu? |
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| 14:28.01 | freemangordon | MrPingu: it is not that tey are not compatible, it is apt that wont install them, as they depend on kernel-power |
| 14:28.39 | merlin1991 | btw you guys can apply cssu-thumb directly, I made it in a way that it installs -testing away |
| 14:28.43 | merlin1991 | is so evil |
| 14:28.50 | freemangordon | you can download KPS .deb from repos adn do dpkg -i --force-all path_to_kps_deb.deb |
| 14:29.08 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you should have ther repo installed first |
| 14:29.10 | MrPingu | Oh that way round :) |
| 14:29.26 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: the .install file installs both repos |
| 14:29.37 | merlin1991 | and then the mp kicks in and pulls in everything |
| 14:29.45 | freemangordon | aah, you bastard :P |
| 14:29.53 | freemangordon | why didn't you tell me |
| 14:30.03 | merlin1991 | afaik I did |
| 14:30.07 | merlin1991 | back when I set it up :D |
| 14:30.08 | MrPingu | You say now? I just installed testing, now I need to install thumb |
| 14:30.14 | freemangordon | hmm, could be |
| 14:30.25 | merlin1991 | MrPingu: it's only faster the other way |
| 14:30.32 | merlin1991 | there's no other difference :) |
| 14:30.33 | MrPingu | I know |
| 14:30.43 | MrPingu | but do you think time infinite? |
| 14:31.04 | merlin1991 | time is, on the other hand *your* time probably isn't ;) |
| 14:31.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: well, did you try to install it that way? |
| 14:31.39 | MrPingu | True... |
| 14:33.42 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: nope I don't run thumb on any of my n900s (yet) |
| 14:36.19 | MrPingu | hates HAM |
| 14:36.21 | freemangordon | ok. so until it is confirmed to work that way, I won't change the installation instructions, dependency problems are enough at this stage |
| 14:37.28 | ivgalvez_ | freemangordon: replacing omap1 is the best way to go |
| 14:37.39 | ivgalvez_ | as in the future you could have also newer KP |
| 14:37.41 | freemangordon | yeah, agree |
| 14:37.44 | ivgalvez_ | supporting Thumb2 |
| 14:38.06 | freemangordon | I could have? No, there will be, for sure. |
| 14:38.08 | freemangordon | :) |
| 14:38.15 | ivgalvez_ | great |
| 14:40.09 | freemangordon | But I prefer to see for a while if there will be some problems reported (besides usual - no free space, dependency, etc) before puttting more effort into that |
| 14:40.31 | ivgalvez_ | of course |
| 14:41.20 | freemangordon | as if at the end it turns out that I am wrong and thumb2 is unstable no matter what workarouns i do, that will be an wasted effort. |
| 14:42.06 | ivgalvez_ | that might depend on the level of unstability |
| 14:42.55 | ivgalvez_ | I mean, crashes happens. For example Sygic is the most unstable app for the N900 |
| 14:43.03 | ivgalvez_ | and it's closed source :D |
| 14:43.19 | freemangordon | naah, I won't put any effort in instabilities caused by thumb2 |
| 14:44.07 | ivgalvez_ | have you tried any opengl game= |
| 14:44.24 | freemangordon | no |
| 14:44.35 | ivgalvez_ | mmm that's a good test |
| 14:44.51 | freemangordon | but the whole hildon stack uses cairo, which is based on opengl-es |
| 14:45.07 | freemangordon | and there is lots of hildon stuff in thumb repo |
| 14:45.09 | freemangordon | ;) |
| 14:45.22 | ivgalvez_ | I need to find more free time |
| 14:45.41 | freemangordon | i.e. hildon-desktop, hildon-home, hildon-status-menu, gtk |
| 14:59.46 | tadzik | merlin1991: no problem :) |
| 15:01.20 | Raimu | hates ham |
| 15:01.32 | Raimu | We are taking care of a miniature pig for some friends. Jeeze, that creature. |
| 15:30.53 | MrPingu | Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-cssu1 :D |
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| 16:29.12 | Raimu | freemangordon: Do you intend to compile more things with thumb in the near future, BTW? |
| 16:30.58 | Raimu | The big thing is that Qt is that way now, so it's a law of diminishing returns, but anyway. |
| 16:46.21 | freemangordon | Raimu: yes, microb should be the next to go |
| 16:49.28 | peetah | freemangordon: is there (or do you plan to add ) a wiki entry to describe what are the required steps in order to compile something with thumb within a scratchbox environment ? |
| 16:50.33 | freemangordon | peetah: hmm, didn't think of it, I am not much in documentation, but yes, you're right, there should be some howto :) |
| 16:51.27 | freemangordon | but in short one only needs to setup a new target using gcc 4.6.2 compiler. |
| 16:53.13 | peetah | ok thanks |
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| 18:13.09 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: you should adjust the kernel-cssu |
| 18:13.23 | merlin1991 | the "nokia kernel" desktop file is not exactly good ;) |
| 18:13.45 | merlin1991 | also I'd remove the popup and move it into the mp since the window manager is already down at that point |
| 18:14.32 | merlin1991 | and finally I just tried to install it with the install file directly on a fresh n900 and it worked like a charm |
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| 18:37.07 | luf | Hi |
| 18:37.37 | luf | merlin1991: ping |
| 18:42.49 | merlin1991 | luf: pong |
| 18:45.10 | luf | merlin1991: Did you read the conversation question from yesterday about curl? |
| 18:45.47 | merlin1991 | read yes, remember not so much, can you fill me in again? |
| 18:46.54 | luf | May I preserve dependency or add krb/ldap (not in ssu/cssu - only in extras) |
| 18:47.40 | luf | Preserve in cssu + add more in extras is the winning option. |
| 18:48.09 | merlin1991 | so you want to keep a dependency krb/ldap? |
| 18:49.02 | luf | There are no krb/ldap dependency in original curl-7.18. |
| 18:49.15 | luf | So no krb/ldap dependency in cssu curl. |
| 18:49.46 | luf | I'll compile also version with dependency and put it into extras. |
| 18:50.16 | merlin1991 | and the point of that would be what exactly? |
| 18:51.18 | luf | My question yesterday was if keep dependency without krb/ldap in cssu or what are posibilities/policy. |
| 18:52.04 | luf | I'm using krb so the best is to put curl with krb+ldap into cssu for me :) |
| 18:52.09 | merlin1991 | well it's quite easy, we evaluate what gain we have by adding krb/ldap and depending on that we add it in cssu or not |
| 18:52.32 | merlin1991 | having yet another package in extras would nullify the sense of the cssu libcurl package |
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| 18:53.04 | merlin1991 | (if I understood correctly that you want to build another libcurl for extras) |
| 18:54.05 | merlin1991 | so what additional features does libcurl get if you compile it with krb/ldap |
| 18:54.27 | luf | Yes. Because we see very low value in adding krb/ldap to cssu. |
| 18:54.52 | luf | Support for LDAP protocol and also krb/gssapi authentication methods to http/s + proxy. |
| 18:55.18 | merlin1991 | and how would you ship it in extras? |
| 18:55.40 | luf | It's already in extras ;) |
| 18:55.50 | merlin1991 | I mean technically the assumption of extras is that users of extras have normal pr1.3 |
| 18:55.58 | merlin1991 | *1.3.1* |
| 18:56.10 | merlin1991 | thus they can't install your build because it's blocked by the nokia mp |
| 18:56.52 | merlin1991 | and only because stuff is there doesn't mean it belongs there ;) |
| 18:57.48 | luf | I don't understand what should block my build ... It's newer version of curl and krb and ldap are only in extras. |
| 18:58.20 | merlin1991 | yes but by default you have a packge from nokia on your maemo system |
| 18:58.29 | merlin1991 | mp-fremanlte-*something*-pr |
| 18:58.42 | merlin1991 | and it has dependencies on system libs of exact versions |
| 18:58.53 | merlin1991 | so libcurl is fixed to some version |
| 18:59.19 | luf | Strange. The dependency are usually >= version. |
| 18:59.25 | merlin1991 | not in maemo |
| 18:59.29 | merlin1991 | here we have = |
| 18:59.48 | luf | You want to say that I can upgrade my curl in extras just because I have cssu? |
| 18:59.53 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 19:00.27 | merlin1991 | luf: see http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_root_pr1-2_armel/mp-fremantle-generic-pr/20.2010.36-2/ |
| 19:00.32 | luf | Interesting. But cssu is one of the first thing I install on my n900 :) |
| 19:01.43 | luf | I see no curl dependency there. |
| 19:02.01 | merlin1991 | yeah I jsut noticed that myself |
| 19:02.35 | merlin1991 | apt-cache tells me otherwise though |
| 19:03.19 | merlin1991 | for the nokia ssu packages the interface on maemo.org isn't exactly accurate :/ |
| 19:03.59 | luf | :) |
| 19:04.00 | merlin1991 | but if you check `apt-cache rdepends libcurl3` you'll see mp-fremantle-generic-pr (or another if you have some other variant) |
| 19:04.20 | merlin1991 | so bascically having libcurl3 in extras is a big fuckup |
| 19:04.44 | merlin1991 | because you potentially can build applications for extras that don't even run on a newly flashed device |
| 19:06.10 | luf | But if somebody need krb/ldap support in curl? And you see not enough reason to put it into cssu? |
| 19:06.22 | merlin1991 | that's the next thing |
| 19:06.39 | luf | I'm glad I see dependency hell in debian too :) |
| 19:06.42 | merlin1991 | currently you can't build applications that depend on cssu features in extras (or rather should not) |
| 19:07.12 | merlin1991 | hopefully we get the obs soon and then can build apps against a "cssu-enabled" repo aswell |
| 19:07.30 | luf | What is obs? |
| 19:08.16 | luf | And who will judge if I may add krb/ldap support into cssu? |
| 19:08.54 | merlin1991 | luf: obs is another builder which greatly reduces the administation overhead for more repos :) |
| 19:09.05 | merlin1991 | ultimately MohammadAG |
| 19:09.10 | merlin1991 | but I'd say just do it :D |
| 19:10.01 | luf | Just to do what? Add several packages for krb/ldap (not mainteined) into cssu? |
| 19:10.10 | merlin1991 | well only if you do maintain them |
| 19:10.13 | merlin1991 | add them to cssu |
| 19:10.16 | merlin1991 | otherwise nope |
| 19:10.17 | luf | :D |
| 19:11.33 | luf | I think it's better to have first update of curl in cssu asap. |
| 19:11.56 | MohammadAG | luf, http://bit.ly/tK1rHx |
| 19:11.58 | MohammadAG | no, it's not a meatspin |
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| 19:12.35 | luf | So I clone the repos + fetch debian git + add maemo build patch + upload git format-patch to the web (link in history). |
| 19:13.02 | luf | Is it enough or I have to clone the repos somewhere in gitorious and create merge request? |
| 19:13.28 | MohammadAG | you can go upstream |
| 19:14.15 | luf | I'm not sure if I can maintain also krb and ldap libraries. |
| 19:14.34 | luf | I think I can start with libcurl with same dependency. |
| 19:14.53 | luf | Maybe I add the krb/ldap dependency later. |
| 19:15.15 | MohammadAG | krb and ldap? |
| 19:15.20 | MohammadAG | you just maintain updating them |
| 19:15.45 | luf | I have no idea if someone (except me) will appreciate it. |
| 19:16.43 | luf | MohammadAG: I know but it's "just". And I think curl update should go into cssu asap due to IPv6 at least. |
| 19:17.42 | MohammadAG | IPv6 will cause a huge "ABI" break in time :D |
| 19:18.07 | luf | merlin1991: can you say me if upload git format-patch to the web is enough for now and curl update in cssu? |
| 19:18.41 | luf | MohammadAG: The biggest problem is that IPv6 is already compiled in curl-7.18 even maemo didn't support it. |
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| 19:20.00 | luf | and also the support in curl-7.18 seems to be broken as nobody tested it. |
| 19:20.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | moo |
| 19:25.27 | luf | I don't see the URL in history so here it is |
| 19:25.36 | luf | http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=g45e07906abb335871208433d000c9d9fbea96e |
| 19:25.51 | luf | Valid only for 2 days now. |
| 19:31.11 | luf | merlin1991: ^^^ |
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| 21:58.36 | okias | Hello. please HELP. after instalation CSSU I runned apt-get dist-upgrade, but I didn't noticed, that it offered me remove almost 400M |
| 21:59.10 | okias | so some it removed some package, but not all. System is still working, how can I restore system packages? |
| 21:59.12 | tadzik | haha, been there, done that |
| 21:59.39 | tadzik | okias: I reinstalled CSSU, thought that would be the easiest solution |
| 21:59.54 | okias | remove that install package and install again? |
| 22:00.28 | okias | community-ssu-enabler |
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| 22:02.27 | okias | tadzik: what is name of that package? ssu-enabler is not right package |
| 22:03.04 | tadzik | okias: nah, I restored maemo with bootmenu and all this |
| 22:03.25 | okias | tadzik: okey, I haven't backuped :-) |
| 22:03.33 | tadzik | I've also came for help to this channel, and talking to I-don't-remember-who we figured that it's the most sensemaking way |
| 22:03.39 | tadzik | okias: well, I'm glad that you're still smiling :) |
| 22:03.55 | okias | tadzik: system and apt-get still running ;-) |
| 22:04.00 | tadzik | :) |
| 22:04.16 | okias | tadzik: I feel there is some mega-meta-package, which restore all needed apps |
| 22:04.23 | tadzik | I hoped for the same |
| 22:04.29 | tadzik | but didn't find one :) |
| 22:04.29 | okias | and? :-D |
| 22:04.44 | okias | and is there on IRC someone from dev/experts who could know? |
| 22:04.46 | tadzik | I tried reinstalling CSSU, but it didn't work |
| 22:04.57 | tadzik | I don't know. It's not me, by any means :) |
| 22:06.56 | okias | !help |
| 22:13.19 | okias | I tried reinstall something too... |
| 22:15.04 | okias | DocScrutinizer: ping |
| 22:16.10 | merlin1991 | okias: which firmware did you have |
| 22:16.12 | merlin1991 | generic? |
| 22:16.18 | merlin1991 | or the uk / indian variant? |
| 22:16.42 | merlin1991 | the mega metapackage would be mp-fremantle-variant-pr |
| 22:16.45 | okias | merlin1991: no idea, should be generic (I have czech republic version of n900) |
| 22:16.57 | merlin1991 | osso-productinfo |
| 22:18.00 | merlin1991 | though anyway |
| 22:18.01 | okias | region: britain |
| 22:18.07 | merlin1991 | apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr |
| 22:18.15 | merlin1991 | to get the stock stystem back |
| 22:18.18 | merlin1991 | will downgrade A LOT |
| 22:18.34 | merlin1991 | and then install cssu again (aka apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr) |
| 22:18.45 | merlin1991 | also never ever run upgrade / dist-upgrade after installing cssu |
| 22:19.36 | okias | merlin1991: thanks! :-D about apt-get I read already in some irc log history :-D |
| 22:19.52 | merlin1991 | yeah, the problem is that nokia removed the "esential" bits from apt |
| 22:20.05 | okias | merlin1991: it said to me: broken packages |
| 22:20.38 | merlin1991 | well there always is a more informative error when you get that ;) |
| 22:20.48 | okias | merlin1991: lot of them ;-) |
| 22:20.53 | merlin1991 | pastebin? |
| 22:21.19 | okias | n900 terminal :-( |
| 22:21.50 | okias | damn, no aptitude |
| 22:22.03 | merlin1991 | err just get pastebintit |
| 22:22.10 | merlin1991 | and then pipe to it? :D |
| 22:23.20 | okias | merlin1991: nothing in repository named that |
| 22:24.06 | merlin1991 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/pastebinit/ |
| 22:24.11 | merlin1991 | only in -devel |
| 22:24.53 | okias | merlin1991: i should have devel |
| 22:26.28 | okias | merlin1991: found it! |
| 22:30.04 | okias | merlin1991: pastebin api changed |
| 22:30.13 | okias | merlin1991: so no use.. |
| 22:30.14 | merlin1991 | vi the file in /bin |
| 22:30.23 | merlin1991 | and adjust the url to paste.debian.net for example |
| 22:30.27 | merlin1991 | it's a script |
| 22:30.28 | okias | ok |
| 22:31.48 | okias | exactly, where? |
| 22:32.38 | okias | ok found it in /usr/bin |
| 22:33.05 | merlin1991 | there's the which command ;) |
| 22:33.43 | okias | paste.debian.net/174193 |
| 22:35.58 | merlin1991 | dpkg -r mp-fremantle-community-pr first |
| 22:36.56 | okias | merlin1991: I already removed it (with apt-get remove ... ) |
| 22:37.16 | merlin1991 | paste the output of dpkg -l mp-* |
| 22:38.18 | okias | paste.debian.net/174194 |
| 22:39.37 | merlin1991 | what happens if you do apt-get install maemo-applet-tvout=0.8+0m5 |
| 22:40.55 | okias | merlin1991: it offer remove, then downgrade |
| 22:41.12 | merlin1991 | hm maybe you can force the mp |
| 22:41.59 | merlin1991 | apt-get -f install mp-fremanlte-generic-pr |
| 22:42.02 | merlin1991 | and if that fail |
| 22:42.10 | merlin1991 | install all of the ones in the list by hand :/ |
| 22:42.57 | okias | merlin1991: it failed..... |
| 22:43.10 | merlin1991 | off to one by one you go :/ |
| 22:43.26 | okias | isn't there any way how to restore deleted packages? |
| 22:43.39 | merlin1991 | apt-get install package=version |
| 22:43.44 | merlin1991 | that's the way todo it ;) |
| 22:43.49 | merlin1991 | apt does not keep logs on the n900 |
| 22:43.53 | okias | merlin1991: some log, what was removed? |
| 22:43.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | okias: pong |
| 22:43.56 | merlin1991 | so you have no way to till which ones are missing |
| 22:44.21 | okias | merlin1991: that isn't nice |
| 22:44.36 | merlin1991 | so you just have to fix the depdns issues for hte mp and then install the mp to get the rest of the missing packages |
| 22:44.46 | okias | DocScrutinizer: thanks, right now solving half removed system after apt-get dist-upgrade (lastest cssu) |
| 22:45.13 | okias | merlin1991: I'll install ssh server, tired of writing on n900 keyboard |
| 22:45.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | dist-upgrade is mega-deprecated |
| 22:45.22 | merlin1991 | okias: :D |
| 22:45.40 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, thanks to nokia removing the essential flag from system packages |
| 22:45.40 | okias | DocScrutinizer: yeah, I read that message from irc logs ;-) |
| 22:45.54 | merlin1991 | (and the essential handling in apt) |
| 22:57.20 | okias | merlin1991: trying comment cssu repo |
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| 23:59.06 | okias | btw. should osso-wlan remove wlan driver? |
| 23:59.26 | okias | I'm little bit afraid, if I do this, it die somewhere in removing process |
