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| 11:10.55 | Lava_Croft | eh what |
| 11:11.04 | Lava_Croft | operator name widget in cssu? |
| 11:14.48 | Lava_Croft | oh boy.... |
| 11:19.03 | chem|st | Lava_Croft: not realy... |
| 11:19.23 | Lava_Croft | i shouldn't have spoken |
| 11:19.36 | Lava_Croft | im happy that the N9 i got a few weeks ago makes me stand a bit further from cssu drama:) |
| 11:19.49 | Lava_Croft | my bad to even mention anything |
| 11:21.12 | chem|st | Lava_Croft: it isn't the operator name widget like the program one from extras |
| 11:21.58 | Lava_Croft | i know |
| 11:22.14 | Lava_Croft | but to be very honest, im kind of on the side of "why include extra programs" |
| 11:22.26 | Lava_Croft | but like i said, i don't use my N900 as my main device at the moment |
| 11:22.37 | Lava_Croft | so my judgement on this isnt exactly a good one (if it could ever be;) |
| 11:22.51 | Lava_Croft | overall im just happy that CSSU is still moving |
| 11:24.31 | Lava_Croft | (i must say that the N9 certainly is no N900 :\) |
| 11:28.59 | chem|st | well screw it for stable! |
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| 11:33.42 | Lava_Croft | :) |
| 11:33.56 | Lava_Croft | I cant just let testing stand there out in the rain |
| 11:36.13 | chem|st | no I mean that cbs widget thing is good for testing nothing else |
| 11:37.07 | Lava_Croft | oh, yeah |
| 11:37.10 | Lava_Croft | totally |
| 11:37.33 | chem|st | and cbs is just useless anyway... easteregg is rotten |
| 11:38.39 | chem|st | the top3 providers in europe do not make use of it |
| 11:39.46 | chem|st | well telefónica uses it... |
| 11:40.05 | Lava_Croft | i just wondered why it was even included |
| 11:40.19 | chem|st | MohammadAG: why was it included? |
| 11:40.20 | Lava_Croft | but i havent really been following CSSU stuff thats been happening :| |
| 11:40.31 | Lava_Croft | its tricky enough to follow all the harmattan stuff that goes around |
| 11:41.08 | Lava_Croft | i should stop working and just browse TMO and IRC all day |
| 11:41.41 | MohammadAG | chem|st: Ask merlin1991 |
| 11:41.43 | MohammadAG | Afaik it was stable according to him |
| 11:42.09 | chem|st | MohammadAG: the question is not if it is stable the question is why it is in cssu |
| 11:42.13 | Lava_Croft | yeah |
| 11:42.15 | chem|st | merlin1991: ^^ |
| 11:42.23 | Lava_Croft | no offense taken to it, really |
| 11:42.26 | Lava_Croft | but i am curious |
| 11:42.36 | Lava_Croft | i can imagine a certain person going mental over it |
| 11:42.54 | MohammadAG | chem|st: It doesn't introduce regressions and doesn't show CBS by default? |
| 11:43.21 | MohammadAG | Its just an open source operator widget replacement |
| 11:43.26 | chem|st | MohammadAG: it does... |
| 11:43.44 | MohammadAG | First or second part? |
| 11:43.46 | chem|st | it forces to not have a custom widget |
| 11:44.14 | chem|st | and I do not have cbs available |
| 11:44.34 | MohammadAG | It doesn't? |
| 11:44.39 | Lava_Croft | im also not very fond of how it pollutes the settings screen |
| 11:44.43 | Lava_Croft | with its icon |
| 11:45.03 | chem|st | MohammadAG: my provider screwed it years ago so did others |
| 11:45.27 | Lava_Croft | but, it seems latest CSSU works fine |
| 11:45.42 | Lava_Croft | my testing these days never exceeds playing an icecast stream in OMP, and that still works! |
| 11:45.47 | MohammadAG | It doesnt do anything to prevent a custom widget |
| 11:46.06 | MohammadAG | I'm proud of where OMP got |
| 11:46.24 | chem|st | it is on one hand another entry in my settings, with functions I never use and on the other it sacrifices the custom operator name widget I used 2 years now |
| 11:46.37 | MohammadAG | How |
| 11:46.59 | MohammadAG | The custom operator widget probably dies dirty moving |
| 11:47.00 | chem|st | cssu brakes the name widget |
| 11:47.13 | MohammadAG | Reinstall it |
| 11:47.22 | chem|st | on cssu upgrade it asked me to unsinstall |
| 11:47.33 | Lava_Croft | thats my problem, kind of |
| 11:47.38 | Lava_Croft | i didnt have any widget for it installed |
| 11:47.42 | Lava_Croft | yet now it did |
| 11:47.53 | MohammadAG | Stab whoever decided to conflict it |
| 11:47.59 | Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: any plans to add some kind of confirmation/selection screen for packages like this? |
| 11:48.04 | Lava_Croft | in future cssu releases |
| 11:48.08 | chem|st | AND it uses the same name |
| 11:48.09 | Lava_Croft | so you could for example add stuff like OMP |
| 11:48.21 | MohammadAG | The same name as the stock widget |
| 11:48.27 | Lava_Croft | or is such stuff hardly possible with current systems |
| 11:48.38 | chem|st | the one from extras, not the package name |
| 11:48.57 | MohammadAG | I'm pretty sure that's incorrect chem|st |
| 11:49.17 | MohammadAG | what's the package name |
| 11:49.17 | chem|st | it reads operator name widget in settings instead of custom op name widget |
| 11:49.44 | chem|st | the package name has an additional cbs... |
| 11:49.53 | MohammadAG | And how the fuck is that the same |
| 11:50.09 | chem|st | it is missleading, as it is not custom nor name |
| 11:50.20 | chem|st | it is just cbs with logging of the same... |
| 11:50.50 | chem|st | MohammadAG: do I see package names in my settings? |
| 11:50.59 | MohammadAG | What? |
| 11:51.07 | chem|st | MohammadAG: you misunderstood |
| 11:51.34 | chem|st | the settings read operator name widget & custom operator name widget |
| 11:52.13 | chem|st | irritating enough to call both widget... |
| 11:52.15 | MohammadAG | The problem is? |
| 11:53.01 | chem|st | why does it need to uninstall the latter, and why do I have no choice? |
| 11:53.14 | Lava_Croft | that actually might be part of the 'testing' side |
| 11:53.24 | Lava_Croft | that its installed without really asking you |
| 11:53.36 | MohammadAG | That's the problem of whoever wrote debian/control |
| 11:53.37 | Lava_Croft | i just would like a solution for such things, but who doesnt, i reckon |
| 11:53.56 | chem|st | ;) |
| 11:53.57 | MohammadAG | So ask jonwil |
| 11:54.24 | chem|st | why is it in cssu anyway? |
| 11:54.33 | chem|st | that's the point |
| 11:55.10 | chem|st | if it is so smooth and stable why isn't it just in extras like anything else |
| 11:55.31 | Lava_Croft | let's not forget to mention that the actual work that goes into it is not undervalued |
| 11:55.35 | chem|st | it is not replacing anything?! |
| 11:55.37 | MohammadAG | Cause It cant be in extras |
| 11:55.45 | MohammadAG | It is |
| 11:56.02 | MohammadAG | It's like modified h-d |
| 11:56.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | cbs-widget is a 100% candidate for cssu-optional |
| 11:56.04 | Lava_Croft | the CBS widget is in stock maemo5? |
| 11:56.15 | Lava_Croft | (i never saw one in here) |
| 11:56.22 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: +1 |
| 11:56.29 | Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer05: yes |
| 11:56.40 | Raimu | I have to admit to me "it pollutes my settings menu" is not a good reason for anything, but the other reasons are considerable. |
| 11:56.51 | Lava_Croft | Raimu: i think it is |
| 11:56.52 | chem|st | MohammadAG: so why is there a custom operator name widget then? |
| 11:57.02 | Lava_Croft | there wasnt an icon for it before, but now there is |
| 11:57.07 | Lava_Croft | and it adds zero functionality for me |
| 11:57.27 | MohammadAG | The operator name widget is stock |
| 11:57.33 | Raimu | Yes. |
| 11:57.37 | MohammadAG | It doesn't allow changing text |
| 11:58.03 | merlin1991 | gotta love the rage |
| 11:58.25 | Lava_Croft | no rage over here, just curiosity :) |
| 11:58.37 | Lava_Croft | anyone raging over CSSU should have its head examined |
| 11:58.50 | merlin1991 | also the "other" name widgets are done the bad way (TM) which shouldn't be in extras if some sense was applied |
| 11:58.57 | Raimu | People take their hobbies passionately. It's nothing new to mankind. |
| 11:59.03 | merlin1991 | also yeah optional is a point but no option curently |
| 11:59.04 | Lava_Croft | ill just ask it one more time, because im a bit thick |
| 11:59.12 | Lava_Croft | this operate name widget icon is present in stock maemo5? |
| 11:59.18 | Lava_Croft | since im almost 100% sure i never ever saw it before |
| 11:59.23 | chem|st | MohammadAG: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/custom-operator-name-widget/0.1/ |
| 11:59.24 | Lava_Croft | in the 2+ years im using this n9000 |
| 11:59.27 | Lava_Croft | er n900* |
| 11:59.43 | MohammadAG | Exactly |
| 11:59.44 | MohammadAG | No |
| 11:59.46 | MohammadAG | chem|st: Your point? |
| 11:59.48 | MohammadAG | That package does dirty stuff |
| 12:00.02 | MohammadAG | The same as m-h-d |
| 12:00.05 | merlin1991 | Lava_Croft: the icon is new |
| 12:00.17 | Lava_Croft | merlin1991: but the functionality itself was there all along, just inaccesible? |
| 12:00.18 | merlin1991 | also I think there is a gconf key to set a custom name somewhere |
| 12:00.24 | Lava_Croft | ah, thats what i meant then |
| 12:00.33 | merlin1991 | Lava_Croft: the functionality is all new |
| 12:00.50 | chem|st | merlin1991: why is it needed in cssu? |
| 12:00.56 | Lava_Croft | well, then i guess my own feelings about not liking this extra stuff in my settings screen are justified:) |
| 12:00.59 | MohammadAG | Sigh |
| 12:01.01 | Lava_Croft | but its fairly minor:) |
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| 12:01.15 | Raimu | Cell broadcast reading is something that most Nokia phones have had a discrete option for selecting pretty much always. |
| 12:01.30 | merlin1991 | Raimu: we have a patched stock lib to actually enable it |
| 12:01.34 | merlin1991 | + a gui to use it |
| 12:01.38 | Lava_Croft | im bad at math, but the math i do when looking at CSSU as a whole and this extra icon in the settings screen |
| 12:01.41 | Lava_Croft | i guess i can live with that |
| 12:01.44 | merlin1991 | before that the complete feature was impossible |
| 12:01.54 | Lava_Croft | but some cssu-optional would indeed be a great thing |
| 12:02.00 | Raimu | merlin1991: Yep, I recall. I tested the apparatus. |
| 12:02.32 | chem|st | merlin1991: so the cssu part is the patched lib! for what reason is the gui in cssu? |
| 12:02.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | the libsms though is clean for CSSU core |
| 12:02.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I already took the blame for not noticing that fact |
| 12:02.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | (which is it introduces dependency collisions) |
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| 12:02.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: nope, the widget isn't like m-h-d |
| 12:02.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | a system can operate without any such widget |
| 12:02.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | it couldn't work without any h-d |
| 12:02.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | for the lib the opposite rationale applies |
| 12:02.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | plus the libsms doesn't actually change anything except fix stuff |
| 12:02.56 | merlin1991 | chem|st: because the gui can not live in extras since it depends on cssu stuff and stuff in extras can't do that |
| 12:02.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | Lava_Croft: there's a solution, I pushed it and merlin1991 and me already specified the design |
| 12:03.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | the fuck, am I connected via GPRS now??? |
| 12:03.25 | Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer05: not just because of this icon, but because of all the other packages that could reach an audience via this cssu-optional |
| 12:03.26 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the widget is 100% like m-h-d |
| 12:03.29 | Lava_Croft | that would be great |
| 12:03.37 | merlin1991 | in the sense that the package replaces a .so form another package |
| 12:03.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ca. 50 posts in 2 seconds |
| 12:03.49 | Lava_Croft | hah |
| 12:03.58 | chem|st | merlin1991: just because of that fact I am forced to have it? |
| 12:04.34 | merlin1991 | chem|st: currently there is no way to properly do "optional" inside cssu |
| 12:04.44 | chem|st | ok |
| 12:04.54 | merlin1991 | though i'm working on that |
| 12:08.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: nope, the .so is not the widget |
| 12:09.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | or is it? |
| 12:09.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | :shrug: |
| 12:09.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, it clearly is optional, as optional as e.g. screen orientation lock |
| 12:10.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping |
| 12:10.13 | infobot | ~pong |
| 12:10.23 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the so is the widget ;) |
| 12:10.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | pfffooooh, already expected another poststorm |
| 12:10.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | libsms.so is the widget? |
| 12:10.57 | merlin1991 | nope |
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| 12:12.07 | merlin1991 | operator-name-cbs-cpa.so is the widget |
| 12:12.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 12:12.27 | merlin1991 | ah wait that's the cp widget |
| 12:12.31 | merlin1991 | connui-cellular-operator-home-item.so is the real one |
| 12:13.46 | Lava_Croft | wauw nice name |
| 12:13.57 | Lava_Croft | home-item is really good |
| 12:14.18 | Raimu | ... |
| 12:15.09 | merlin1991 | anyway I agree we should split it into 2 packages |
| 12:15.16 | merlin1991 | will see to that aswell |
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| 12:17.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | regarding 100% look&feel compatibility we shouldn't add a setting button to menu (the cluttering argument is valid). Regarding 100% OS compatibility it should at least try to not fsckup custom-operator-widget. |
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| 12:18.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | (damn reconnects!) |
| 12:19.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway it being a .so doesn't already qualify it for cssu-core |
| 12:19.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | regarding 100% look&feel compatibility we shouldn't add a setting button to menu (the cluttering argument is valid). Regarding 100% OS compatibility it should at least try to not fsckup custom-operator-widget. |
| 12:19.44 | merlin1991 | I could care less about custom-operator-I'm-a-dirty-hack-widget but making the ui optinal fixes this as a sideeffect |
| 12:19.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 12:22.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | we need to think about our policy and POV regarding those "dirty hacks" though. After all they got invented becuase there's been no CSSU-extras |
| 12:23.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | so basically instead of bewildering those devels we should try to embrace |
| 12:25.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | no reason to frown at dirty hacks that did on humble level what cssu does in a large scale |
| 12:29.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | may we agree on: libsms.so belongs into cssu-core. cbs-widget as well as any cleaned version of custom-oper-widget belong into cssu-extras and should migrate to there as soon as possible. And cbs-widget won't go into S until it's optional |
| 12:33.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah chanlog tells me you already agreed :-D |
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| 17:07.40 | luf | merlin+Ã+Ã1 ping |
| 17:08.06 | luf | merlin1991: ping |
| 17:08.57 | _freemangordon | М№ |
| 17:09.00 | _freemangordon | :) |
| 17:10.12 | luf | :D |
| 17:12.39 | luf | I hope I meet merlin1991 some day. It seems he doesn't look into archive or use some proxy bouncer. |
| 17:13.51 | luf | _freemangordon: What do you mean about curl. Keep it with same dependency or can I add krb and/or ldap dependency? |
| 17:14.54 | luf | Either krb or ldap lib has to be installed additional. |
| 17:15.29 | luf | What is cssu policy? :) |
| 17:15.49 | _freemangordon | luf: I am not sure I understand your question, but every piece of SF culr depends on, should be in CSSU if newer version is needed |
| 17:15.59 | _freemangordon | s/SF/SW/ |
| 17:16.28 | _freemangordon | CSSU must not depend on external repo |
| 17:16.39 | _freemangordon | *repos |
| 17:17.28 | luf | And can be this libraries included into cssu? It's system libraries. |
| 17:17.55 | freemangordon | that is the exact purpose of CSSU |
| 17:18.04 | freemangordon | system libs replacement/upgrade |
| 17:18.30 | luf | I use kerberos in several places and it's pitty that default curl is without krb support. |
| 17:19.04 | freemangordon | hmm, and who will benefit if krb support is enabled? |
| 17:19.12 | freemangordon | is there any SW to use that? |
| 17:19.34 | luf | I don't know if I want to do krb/ldap upgrade :) I only want to use it in libcurl3 as dependency => it has to be included in cssu (or libcurl3 without krb/ldap support). |
| 17:20.06 | freemangordon | sounds like a candidate for cssu-extras repo to be |
| 17:20.51 | freemangordon | but if libcurl3 depends on it, then there is no option but to include those in cssu as well |
| 17:23.48 | freemangordon | luf: it seems that these days merlin1991 is active in the evening, just hang on here, he will answer |
| 17:24.21 | luf | I can't find if something use krb. For sure it's in extras. |
| 17:25.16 | freemangordon | luf: is it a different source package? |
| 17:25.16 | luf | The last option is to have non-krb+non-ldap libcurl3 in cssu and krb+ldap libcurl3 in extras :) |
| 17:25.29 | freemangordon | hmm, that sounds sane |
| 17:26.08 | luf | curl is still the same it depends what I put into configure options (and into dependency). |
| 17:26.20 | freemangordon | I see |
| 17:27.32 | luf | Next option is to try to link the krb+ldap static into curl. |
| 17:32.12 | freemangordon | luf: but what is the benefit? |
| 17:32.19 | freemangordon | who will use it? |
| 17:32.22 | luf | I don't want to lie with dependency :D |
| 17:32.26 | luf | At least me :D |
| 17:44.18 | freemangordon | luf: but you have all the knowledge to build your own package :P |
| 17:45.41 | freemangordon | Pali: ping |
| 17:50.09 | luf | freemangordon: Unfortunately you're right :) |
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| 18:01.26 | fw190 | freemangordon: ping |
| 18:02.23 | fw190 | see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220618&postcount=5 do you want me to flash and start from zero or you want to inwestigate what is wrong? |
| 18:06.05 | fw190 | ps. is there a channel for thumb or I should ask here? |
| 18:07.53 | luf | merlin1991: ping |
| 18:11.32 | freemangordon | fw190: better investigate first |
| 18:11.40 | fw190 | dang |
| 18:11.50 | fw190 | already started flashing |
| 18:11.52 | freemangordon | fw190: could you gimme the output of uname -a |
| 18:11.55 | freemangordon | damn |
| 18:11.57 | freemangordon | :) |
| 18:12.09 | fw190 | the phone was unusable |
| 18:12.23 | freemangordon | not critical though |
| 18:12.30 | fw190 | but I will install it again |
| 18:12.32 | fw190 | in a moment |
| 18:12.35 | freemangordon | fw190: after installation? |
| 18:12.54 | freemangordon | did it flash kernel-cssu? |
| 18:13.03 | fw190 | well the apps were closing |
| 18:13.11 | freemangordon | fw190: ^^^ |
| 18:13.37 | fw190 | hildon wasnt working as it should |
| 18:13.51 | fw190 | got disconnected |
| 18:14.00 | Raimu | freemangordon: I take it the thumb mp that emerged today just provides the things I've already installed, right? |
| 18:14.09 | freemangordon | Raimu: yep |
| 18:14.31 | Raimu | Everything has been working so far. |
| 18:14.33 | freemangordon | it is just hildon-home which is newer |
| 18:14.52 | freemangordon | (aligned to CSSU-Tv4) |
| 18:16.31 | fw190 | freemangordon: I will install the thumb on a clean system and report here how things are |
| 18:16.36 | fw190 | give me 15 minutes ;) |
| 18:20.07 | freemangordon | fw190: ok, don't forget to install latest CSSU-testing prior to installing -thumb |
| 18:20.49 | fw190 | freemangordon: ok just had the ltest nokia update no time for T after reboot |
| 18:21.40 | fw190 | ok just had the latest nokia update now time for T after reboot |
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| 18:36.06 | freemangordon | luf: did you clone CSSU curl? |
| 18:37.27 | freemangordon | luf: I think the best way to merge new curl in CSSU is to: |
| 18:37.33 | freemangordon | 1. clone CSSU repo |
| 18:37.50 | freemangordon | 2. fetch remote repo (wheezy or whatever) |
| 18:38.04 | freemangordon | 3. apply your debian/* stuff changer |
| 18:38.18 | freemangordon | 4. request a merge back to CSSU |
| 18:38.34 | freemangordon | that way we won't lose commit history |
| 18:38.38 | luf | I already clone the curl. And prepared curl-7.26.0. |
| 18:39.17 | freemangordon | luf: I dont see any clones of git@gitorious.org:community-ssu/curl.git |
| 18:39.41 | freemangordon | and you'd bwetter stay with the version that is in extras-devel, it is at least partially tested |
| 18:40.02 | luf | I mean clone to my notebook. Maybe I use wrong words. I know cvs and svn but not git. |
| 18:42.55 | luf | You mean that version from wheezy is not tested? :) |
| 18:43.13 | luf | BTW I'm testing it now for two days. |
| 18:43.27 | luf | It's few I know but ... |
| 18:43.47 | amiconn | Hmm, is 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo4 okay for installation or is there something that I should wait for before upgrading (from 3.1)? |
| 18:44.34 | freemangordon | luf, I mean the version you'd based the one in extras-devel |
| 18:44.55 | freemangordon | the same should be included in CSSU, at least for now |
| 18:45.47 | luf | I'm including it into devel, am I? |
| 18:45.59 | freemangordon | luf: WHAT? |
| 18:46.11 | luf | I prepare it better for cssu and later updates. |
| 18:46.12 | freemangordon | you are going to put a new version in extras-devel? |
| 18:46.21 | luf | There is no cssu-devel? |
| 18:46.25 | freemangordon | there is |
| 18:46.43 | luf | So I'll put it into cssu-devel. |
| 18:46.53 | freemangordon | luf: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/ |
| 18:47.08 | freemangordon | luf, you can't, that should be done by me or merlin1991 |
| 18:47.37 | freemangordon | and we will want source code on gitorious first (in CSSU repo) |
| 18:47.41 | luf | Yes. Ok you or merlin1991 will put the curl into cssu-devel. So what's the problem? |
| 18:47.51 | freemangordon | where is the source code |
| 18:47.58 | luf | It's fully tested by debian developers. And maemo is debian at all. |
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| 18:48.14 | freemangordon | it don't work like that |
| 18:48.26 | amiconn | "Not enough power" <- Eh, what? Battery is >50%... |
| 18:48.59 | freemangordon | luf: git is easy to be used, just a several commands |
| 18:49.21 | freemangordon | see my steps in backscroll, that is how it should happen according to me |
| 18:49.27 | luf | Ok then say me how new version of curl can be used? |
| 18:49.58 | luf | git is just series of step which lead to the same ;) Put the source into version control. |
| 18:50.13 | freemangordon | luf: but you have the history |
| 18:50.44 | freemangordon | i.e. it is better to have history in the CSSU repo whenever possible |
| 18:50.49 | luf | I'm talking about 7.25 and 7.26. |
| 18:51.27 | freemangordon | no, I am talking about 7.18.2-8maemo6+0m5+0cssu0 and 7.25 |
| 18:51.38 | luf | It's nearly no history. I tried it with 7.25 so I do more changes than necessery. |
| 18:52.09 | freemangordon | the commits between those 2 version should be in CSSU repo on gitorious |
| 18:52.35 | freemangordon | luf: maybe I am missing something, what do you propose? |
| 18:52.43 | freemangordon | i.e. what steps |
| 18:52.44 | freemangordon | ? |
| 18:53.28 | luf | I don't get the idea what you want and why. |
| 18:53.56 | luf | I get 7.26.0 - change the build files regarding to maemo and compile. |
| 18:54.03 | amiconn | Hmm, the screen contents during upgrade scared me a bit... but it seems to have worked |
| 18:54.07 | luf | All changes are in curl repositroy. |
| 18:54.31 | luf | Why to duplicate the repository with all commits? |
| 18:54.38 | amiconn | Except for my usual complaint - cssu upgrade *always* forgets to re-enable bluetooth |
| 18:54.39 | freemangordon | luf: the idea is to have the history between what is now installed with CSSU (7.18.2-8maemo6+0m5+0cssu0) and the next that will be installed (7.25-whatever-cssu-package-will-be-called) |
| 18:55.18 | luf | BTW 7.18.2-8maemo6+0m5+0cssu0 - has no specific patches related to maemo - or I don't see them. |
| 18:55.50 | luf | I will be away for 30 minutes ... |
| 18:55.50 | freemangordon | luf: because that is the procedure so far, while merlin1991 may agree on an exception |
| 18:55.55 | freemangordon | luf: ok |
| 18:56.17 | amiconn | wonders where he can find this operator name widget |
| 18:56.38 | amiconn | The update listed it as "to be installed", but "add widget" doesn't offer it |
| 18:57.18 | fw190 | freemangordon: something is wrong- did a clean reflash, emmc + rootfs, instaled latest mameo and latest T then thumb and now when I try tu launch the terminal it hangs the system |
| 18:57.36 | freemangordon | fw190: which kernel does it boot? |
| 18:57.41 | tadzik | amiconn: it's in the settings |
| 18:57.49 | jon-kha | should uname -a still show 2.6.28.10-power50 after installation of cssu-thumb? |
| 18:57.50 | tadzik | it's not really a widget, and not really about the name |
| 18:58.12 | freemangordon | jon-kha: no, it should be 2.6.28.10-cssu1 |
| 18:58.18 | amiconn | Ah, thanks. In this case the naming is confusion |
| 18:58.21 | amiconn | *confusing |
| 18:58.50 | jon-kha | ok, for some reason installation didn't flash the kernel |
| 18:58.58 | fw190 | freemangordon: uname -r shows omap1 |
| 18:59.24 | fw190 | freemangordon: now x term worked I could do uname -r |
| 18:59.45 | freemangordon | fw190: WTF? then it is clear why you have the problems. Could you don apt-get install kernel-cssu kernel-cssu-modules kernel-cssu-flasher |
| 18:59.52 | freemangordon | s/don/do/ |
| 19:00.01 | fw190 | and it stopped working |
| 19:00.05 | fw190 | stuck again |
| 19:00.24 | fw190 | ps. while instaling it dodnt tell me that new kernel will be isntalled |
| 19:00.28 | fw190 | didnt |
| 19:01.28 | freemangordon | fw190: well, flash cssu kernel if you can |
| 19:01.58 | freemangordon | something is wring with the dependencies, need merlin1991 to appear to help me |
| 19:02.04 | freemangordon | *wrong |
| 19:02.32 | fw190 | how to do that? launching HAM or x term makes the system stuck |
| 19:02.43 | freemangordon | hmm, that is bad. re-flash :( |
| 19:02.48 | freemangordon | rootfs only |
| 19:03.02 | freemangordon | and wait until I found what is the problem |
| 19:04.09 | amiconn | Hmm, no cell broadcast at T-Mobile Germany -> widget is useless |
| 19:06.51 | fw190 | freemangordon: no problem I will try to run HAM once again or use x term after rebbot- if this fails I will reflash |
| 19:23.35 | luf | freemangordon: can you be more specific what git command do you mean with: fetch remote repo (wheezy or whatever) |
| 19:32.43 | luf | I think I get it :) |
| 19:34.03 | freemangordon | luf: wait for merlin1991 to appear, I think he will explain it better than me |
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| 20:06.52 | chem|st | amiconn: we discussed that earlier, we agreed that it should be optional and not base, the replacement of the name-item on the other hand is |
| 20:07.34 | amiconn | I saw that, and I'm not complaining. Just noting that it's useless for me - it doesn't bother me |
| 20:08.20 | chem|st | amiconn: for most it is useless, some geeky providers send useful info over cell broadcast |
| 20:08.54 | chem|st | for germany, O2 uses it to notify the phones that they are in their homezone |
| 20:09.34 | chem|st | for all others it is service without income - not interesting |
| 20:09.43 | amiconn | O2 is the only provider in germany using cell broadcast at all. D2 and T-Mobile abandoned it, and e plus never supported it in the first place |
| 20:11.10 | chem|st | that sounds familiar... be careful with that site you have this from, some articles are very outdated |
| 20:15.19 | amiconn | Wikipedia (except the e plus info) |
| 20:16.44 | chem|st | applies for wikipedia too ;) |
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| 21:18.58 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
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| 22:34.58 | luf | Ok I have my local git clone with new curl for CSSU prepared :) |
| 22:35.44 | luf | The only pitty is that maemo git was created few weeks ago so the git log is strange (ordered by date). |
| 22:49.26 | freemangordon | luf: ok, will look at it |
| 22:50.15 | luf | You can't it's on my machine ;) |
| 22:50.52 | freemangordon | aaah, I was under the impression you've cloned curl from CSSU and fetch the new version into it |
| 22:51.26 | luf | Yes I did. But I'm using git command on my local machine ;) |
| 22:51.52 | freemangordon | but that way I am not sure you can do a merge request |
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| 23:09.22 | luf | http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=g45e07906abb335871208433d000c9d9fbea96e |
| 23:10.06 | luf | There is git format-patch what you want :) I know it's not directly gitorious merge request but you can apply it using git am. |
| 23:11.06 | luf | Valid only for 3 days. |
| 23:15.29 | luf | My change againist debian wheezy 7.26.0 is in the last commit (Adopt ...) |
| 23:16.17 | luf | No krb or ldap dependency. |
| 23:37.54 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 23:52.55 | merlin1991 | luf has a ninja style of appearing when I'm gone |
| 23:53.14 | merlin1991 | he even follows my absolutely onpredictable patterns of random afk |
| 23:54.06 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I looked into missing kernel, and I guess the problem is related to packges having the "provides errata" line that actually don't do that |
| 23:54.19 | merlin1991 | (I think the bootimg of kernel-cssu does it) |
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