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| 02:10.37 | Estel_ | Sc0rpius, just hit power button twice, quickly |
| 02:10.46 | Estel_ | it unclocks without slide-to-unlock |
| 02:11.23 | Estel_ | sometimes, simplest solutions are best ;) Same apply to APi key, I'm glad they're going to land in repo and end that saga |
| 02:11.36 | Estel_ | In fact, I'm going to vomit after hearing "facebook" few more times :p |
| 02:15.35 | Sc0rpius | I push power button twice quickly and I still get the swipe screen |
| 02:15.48 | Sc0rpius | but it works for locking the device |
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| 10:39.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sc0rpius: I don't think doubleclick works when device locked |
| 10:40.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not sure what does this filtering though: kernel, mce, even the lockscreen itself? |
| 10:40.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | my guess is mce does that |
| 10:47.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | Sc0rpius: anyway ># less "+/\[PowerKey\]" /etc/mce/mce.ini |
| 10:47.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> |
| 10:47.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | # WARNING: |
| 10:47.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | # Setting short, long, and double press to disabled will make it |
| 10:47.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | # near impossible to turn off your device without removing the battery! |
| 10:47.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | XD |
| 10:48.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless I open xterm and do the right command from there ;-P |
| 10:49.19 | tadzik | that's the "near" part I guess ;) |
| 10:49.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | # Double press [power] behaviour \n ... # tklock - enable the touchscreen/keypad lock <default> |
| 10:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's no option like "DISable the touchscreen/keypad lock |
| 10:53.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders if "soft poweroff = offline" could as well do suspend-to-ram |
| 10:54.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | and if that would make much of a difference |
| 10:55.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | also wonders why those topics always tend to migrate to this chan, rather than being discussed in #maemo where they belong |
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| 13:08.11 | int_ua | as I see the Tmaemo4 version is new. Where can I find changelog fot it? Opening gitorious... |
| 13:09.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU there's a link to changelogs |
| 13:10.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | Tmaemo4 ?? |
| 13:10.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: ^^^? |
| 13:11.02 | int_ua | Doc, I've checked it, of course :) It's not yet updated just like the topic of this channel ;) |
| 13:11.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I meant |
| 13:11.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | so we goit a new rev of T recently? |
| 13:12.15 | Raimu | Well, I didn't see it this morning on my updates. |
| 13:12.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | got* |
| 13:12.39 | Raimu | Well, I do see it now. *grin* |
| 13:13.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmpf |
| 13:13.29 | Raimu | Someone should maybe write something to the Debian changelog thing on the package sometime, because it still talks about 20.2010.36-2maemo16. |
| 13:13.52 | Raimu | At least edit it to say "see web for changelog" or something. |
| 13:13.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol, good spotting |
| 13:14.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | I actually wonder who and when and why released Tmaemo4, if there's sucha thing at all |
| 13:15.10 | Raimu | Well, this package exists in cssu-testing. It was put there sometime in the last five hours. |
| 13:15.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't recall seeing any discussion on what will go into such Tmaemo4 |
| 13:18.56 | Raimu | It's got gnome-vfs-filechooser-backend, was that there in previous cssu-Ts? |
| 13:19.24 | int_ua | looks like freemangordon added arm errata 430973. But its' from gitorious logs, I'm not sure it's part of Tmaemo4. *checking for a kernel update* |
| 13:21.20 | Raimu | Well, I'll wait 'til some changelog emerges. |
| 13:22.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | adding arm errata shouldn't affect T at all |
| 13:23.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | as it's a kernel patch, and T not even has a kernel as part of that distribution |
| 13:23.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: merlin1991: PING |
| 13:23.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's going on? |
| 13:24.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | pretty please make sure we don't accidentally ship a new T rev via SSU |
| 13:24.48 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05, AFAIK the update was supposed to appear a week or so ago, but there was some problim with the repo |
| 13:24.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 13:25.02 | freemangordon | *problem |
| 13:25.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | so there's actually some sort of 'changelog-to-be' that can be found in form of a discussion done here, in the chanlog? |
| 13:27.13 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05, don't think so, better wait merlin1991 to update wiki |
| 13:28.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | damn, if the update to T4 is meant to ship since a week, I'd think this wiki-update is overdue |
| 13:28.47 | int_ua | is upgrading |
| 13:29.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | a new OS rev emerging out of thin air on my daily phone has quite some potential to scare the living shit outa me |
| 13:31.36 | Raimu | Yeah, it's a bit of a " ¬_¬ what this?" |
| 13:35.29 | int_ua | it said "Restart to coplete ... Setting are in Control Panel". What was the last sentence supposed to mean? |
| 13:35.36 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: wiki is always 1 day late ;) |
| 13:35.49 | int_ua | s/Setting/Settings/ |
| 13:36.28 | Raimu | o_O |
| 13:36.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, in this case it shaould have the update since 6 days then, givven freemangordon's staement that it got stuck in repo was correct |
| 13:37.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: we had a discussion (that I missed) about which features come with T4? |
| 13:37.37 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: 1 day after the update is distributed :P |
| 13:38.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think generally updates should get advertised in advance |
| 13:38.40 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 13:39.23 | freemangordon | but it seems both merlin1991 and MohammadAG are too busy these days, it is exams time after all |
| 13:39.32 | freemangordon | AFAIK |
| 13:40.14 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: so lets forgive them this time, if they promise "never again" :D |
| 13:42.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure thing, no accusing and fingerpointing |
| 13:42.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | just asking what's the deal |
| 13:43.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I almost entered ALARM mode for an accidental publishing of an unintended T update |
| 13:43.26 | Raimu | So, anyway... what's changed in this version? |
| 13:43.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, that's my question as well |
| 13:43.55 | freemangordon | Raimu, in short it should bring all the stuff that's been in CSSU-devel for a while |
| 13:44.20 | freemangordon | like modest fizes, ke-recv fixes,etc |
| 13:44.39 | freemangordon | new dosfstools |
| 13:45.49 | freemangordon | better hildon-desktop, some fixes in hildon-home, cbs-operator-applet (or whatever the name was) |
| 13:46.46 | Raimu | Does it include the task switcher monocromatization trick from the CSSU-t TMO thread? |
| 13:46.51 | freemangordon | no |
| 13:47.02 | freemangordon | it is still not even in -devel |
| 13:47.02 | Raimu | +h |
| 13:47.23 | Raimu | I like it a lot. |
| 13:47.28 | freemangordon | but you could pester arcean to speed-up th development :D |
| 13:47.35 | freemangordon | everyone likes it |
| 13:47.37 | Raimu | Not that *that* is grounds for CSSU inclusion *snort* |
| 13:47.43 | Raimu | My liking it, I mean. |
| 13:47.57 | merlin1991 | my list |
| 13:47.58 | merlin1991 | alarmd <-- mp |
| 13:47.58 | merlin1991 | camera-ui <-- fix for dead stream after playback |
| 13:47.58 | merlin1991 | hildon <-- fixed #12553 |
| 13:47.58 | merlin1991 | hildon-home <-- removed unsused gconf, enlarge background dialog in portrait |
| 13:47.59 | merlin1991 | hildon-status-menu <-- removed unsused gconf |
| 13:48.01 | merlin1991 | ke-recv <-- various fixes regarding renaming and a hook to ignore partitions |
| 13:48.04 | merlin1991 | libcurl <-- fixed #12554, also only compiles with "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -I.git -i\\.git -us -uc" |
| 13:48.06 | merlin1991 | modest <-- fixed #12285 |
| 13:48.08 | merlin1991 | operator-name-cbs-widget |
| 13:48.10 | merlin1991 | pango <-- fixed #12550 |
| 13:48.30 | merlin1991 | +dosfstools and gnome-vfs |
| 13:48.43 | merlin1991 | and I think operator-name-cbs-widget didn't go through |
| 13:48.44 | freemangordon | osso-gnome-vfs that is |
| 13:49.07 | freemangordon | would you elaborate? |
| 13:49.22 | arcean | instead of "hildon-status-menu" there should be "hildon-desktop" in changelog :) |
| 13:49.31 | merlin1991 | yea I know :D |
| 13:49.40 | arcean | ok :D |
| 13:49.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | starts coughing when reading "gnome-vfs" |
| 13:49.48 | merlin1991 | it's my faulty list from a txt on my desktop |
| 13:50.17 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: it's about partitions and sending proper names to the file manager afaik |
| 13:50.24 | freemangordon | arcean, mind to push h-d changes on your tree? |
| 13:50.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991: :nod: |
| 13:50.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: basically, it first and foremost starts with "g" |
| 13:50.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
| 13:51.42 | freemangordon | arcean: so i can put it in CSSU-devel repo |
| 13:51.42 | merlin1991 | be happy it doesn't start with u/ku ;) |
| 13:51.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | secondly, I ran into issues with some fsckdup ~/.gnomevfs or whatever, even on my desktop |
| 13:51.58 | arcean | freemangordon: i'd like to squeeze a couple of bugs before pushing anything :) |
| 13:52.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I start coughing whenever I encounter that |
| 13:52.02 | int_ua | AFAIU the message I asked for was from operator-name-cbs-widget |
| 13:52.14 | freemangordon | arcean: ok |
| 13:52.52 | int_ua | is looking at this new operator-name-cbs-widget |
| 13:53.15 | freemangordon | merlin1991: whay yopu said cbs widget didn;t make it? |
| 13:53.15 | int_ua | Didn't we have Cell Broadcast enabled before?? |
| 13:53.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 13:53.25 | freemangordon | int_ua: no |
| 13:53.35 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I don't know, I didn't check yet what mag uploaded |
| 13:53.43 | merlin1991 | currently does that + changelog |
| 13:53.57 | merlin1991 | since I couldn't even check before the repo got fixed today |
| 13:53.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | this getting pushed back again is a rather unpolite move that will make the original author quite unhappy |
| 13:54.20 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, agree |
| 13:54.21 | freemangordon | :( |
| 13:54.37 | merlin1991 | decapitates MohammadAG |
| 13:54.59 | tadzik | was there any idea/attempt to let the pop-up menu, that appears when you hold your finger on something, stay opened until you click someplace else, instead of disappearing when you release the press? |
| 13:55.05 | tadzik | I hope you know, what I mean |
| 13:55.10 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: you uploaded the new modest but didn't increase the dependency |
| 13:55.11 | merlin1991 | ffs |
| 13:55.27 | freemangordon | anyway, it seems we will have a new update soon because of libcurl |
| 13:55.33 | freemangordon | aah, not again |
| 13:55.36 | freemangordon | :( |
| 13:55.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMG |
| 13:55.52 | merlin1991 | also digs for his n900 in his backpack |
| 13:56.11 | freemangordon | needs a cigarrette |
| 13:56.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks a little in silent disparation |
| 13:56.35 | merlin1991 | ffs forgot the -testing one in vienna |
| 13:56.41 | merlin1991 | headdesks aswell |
| 13:56.58 | merlin1991 | guess I'll test palis ham on friday |
| 13:57.57 | int_ua | I didn't get, what's wrong with libcurl? |
| 13:58.40 | merlin1991 | ah wait seems gitk fooled me |
| 13:58.59 | merlin1991 | modest dependency is right |
| 13:59.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | notices things start to become more and more getting done in a chaotic way on CSSU, and also CSSU at large kinda acts hostile to contributers like jon |
| 13:59.40 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: operator-name-cbs-widget (>= 0.2) |
| 13:59.45 | merlin1991 | seems it's in there after all |
| 13:59.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | gooood |
| 13:59.51 | merlin1991 | but alarmd is still mia |
| 14:00.07 | merlin1991 | takes back his I take it back and decapitates mag for alarmd instead |
| 14:00.21 | Raimu | Yeah, this is kinda chaotic. Given that it's exam weeks for some of the main staff, it's understandable, but still. |
| 14:00.27 | freemangordon | int_ua: read the #maemo-ssu tuesday's logs |
| 14:01.47 | Raimu | Have the new alarmd packages been sufficiently tested on enough maemos? I recall I tried out the alarmd packages from cssu-devel and somehow booting became erratic. |
| 14:02.13 | merlin1991 | Raimu: ours is proper :D |
| 14:02.27 | merlin1991 | though still only sitting in the repo |
| 14:02.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd suggest we revive the good old tradition of triage&discussion meeting here in this chan, once a week |
| 14:02.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | esp prior to rolling out a new rev |
| 14:03.02 | merlin1991 | don't remember that ever being valid for -testing |
| 14:03.13 | merlin1991 | -testing always was when mag packages it and pushes |
| 14:03.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm |
| 14:03.30 | merlin1991 | -stable on the other hand had a few of those ;) |
| 14:03.55 | merlin1991 | now headdesking though |
| 14:03.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems to me we should do same SOP for T as well |
| 14:04.18 | merlin1991 | mag finally found the time to sort his depends by alphabet |
| 14:04.40 | merlin1991 | totally ruining my comparison (ie put both lines below each other and look at version numbers :/) |
| 14:04.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | after all it's demanding a bit much of MohammadAG to decide on all that, based solely on his guts feeling and without any help from the rest of the crew |
| 14:06.08 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: any idea how to split a line at "," and sort the result alphabetically in bash? |
| 14:06.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, there are tools in unix toolbox |
| 14:06.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | called cut and sort ;-D |
| 14:06.37 | merlin1991 | sort I know |
| 14:06.41 | merlin1991 | cut I never looked at :D |
| 14:07.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | cut -c "," |
| 14:08.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | or sth like that |
| 14:08.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'll need to define what to output as well |
| 14:08.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | man cut |
| 14:09.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | split a line might mean several things though |
| 14:09.30 | merlin1991 | I want multiple lines with the split sign removed |
| 14:09.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | you could do sed 's/,/\n/' |
| 14:10.18 | merlin1991 | hm sed doesn't like me |
| 14:10.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | XP |
| 14:11.04 | merlin1991 | ah s only replaces first occurance |
| 14:11.22 | int_ua | you meant 's/,/\n/g' |
| 14:11.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "aaa, bbb, ccc"|sed 's/,/\n/g' |
| 14:11.48 | int_ua | merlin1991: add /g in the end |
| 14:11.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, int_ua |
| 14:11.52 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 14:11.55 | merlin1991 | just found it in seds man |
| 14:12.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe even |
| 14:12.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | echo "aaa, bbb, ccc"|sed 's/, */\n/g' |
| 14:13.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | though for this particular task you also could use tr |
| 14:13.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 14:14.16 | freemangordon | I agree with DocScrutinizer05 re a meeting before an update to T, I am not sure MohammadAG follows all the development that has been done sinnce the last one, and it is a bit of a mistery based on what he decides what to include an what not |
| 14:14.17 | merlin1991 | FFS pastebin and their api changes |
| 14:14.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat foobar | netcat paste.dyndns.org 1234 |
| 14:15.14 | merlin1991 | http://paste.debian.net/173298/ |
| 14:16.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: niiiice :-D |
| 14:16.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: feel invited to ask for a consulting meeting any time |
| 14:17.57 | freemangordon | WTF? versions in T are the same as in -devel |
| 14:18.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: nobody thinks you could or have to do all the followup of all development and decision what to include to T all on your own, esp given the scarce free time when exams are prio one |
| 14:18.17 | freemangordon | that is a total mess |
| 14:18.22 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: kidna |
| 14:18.28 | merlin1991 | just like my typing ;) |
| 14:18.40 | freemangordon | yeah :) |
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| 14:19.10 | merlin1991 | anybody using stuff on my server, it's due to reboot in a few mins ;) |
| 14:19.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | MohammadAG: so pretty please ask for assistance |
| 14:19.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | we all are more than glad to help, and to meet here whenever you find a free timeslot |
| 14:21.13 | merlin1991 | hm why doesn't shutdown -r 1 return? ;/ |
| 14:21.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | shutdown -r 1 ? |
| 14:21.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's the 1 meant for? |
| 14:21.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | minutes til shutdown? |
| 14:22.33 | jacekowski | time till shutdown |
| 14:22.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only 'know' shutdown -r now |
| 14:23.00 | freemangordon | :D |
| 14:23.07 | jacekowski | well, now == 0 |
| 14:23.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | and 0 == <nil> |
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| 14:23.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I'd not be surprised messybox doesn't think it has to return from shutdown |
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| 14:24.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | even for shutdown -h 1000 |
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| 14:24.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I never use shutdown |
| 14:25.06 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: 1 minute delay |
| 14:26.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I recently read a notice in my suse12.1 release-notes that with systemd some shutdown related stuff doesn't allegedly work anymore like it used to |
| 14:27.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw, the concept of release-notes seems something worth considering for CSSU as well |
| 14:27.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | a complementary info source to changenotes for end user |
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| 14:28.00 | Raimu | Or at least writing something in the Debian changelog file. :D |
| 14:28.16 | Raimu | DocScrutinizer05: Yes, that would be pretty useful. |
| 14:30.31 | merlin1991 | Raimu: changelog file has stuff in it |
| 14:30.46 | merlin1991 | and there are the "release notes" on the wiki which I'm currently writing |
| 14:31.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991: re gcc 4.6.2 - pick your best mirror here http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html |
| 14:32.05 | int_ua | How do I determine the right Cell Broadcast channel? |
| 14:32.15 | merlin1991 | black magic? |
| 14:32.38 | freemangordon | noo, it's white |
| 14:33.19 | freemangordon | int_ua: AFAIK it is either operator depndent or constant, better ask jonwil about it |
| 14:34.06 | freemangordon | BTW DocScrutinizer05 may have some knowledge too |
| 14:34.26 | Raimu | merlin1991, the package's changelog file always tells me facts about 20.2010.36-2maemo16 |
| 14:34.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.suse.de/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/12.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html |
| 14:34.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | sth like that |
| 14:34.42 | Raimu | I didn't mean the wiki. |
| 14:35.00 | freemangordon | Raimu: which package? |
| 14:35.13 | Raimu | The CSSU-t metapackage. |
| 14:35.18 | freemangordon | ok |
| 14:35.24 | merlin1991 | odd |
| 14:35.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: (release notes on wiki) I think those are too technical, isn't it just a changelog |
| 14:35.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 14:35.44 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I try to dump it down, remove the technical bits and link to bugs on it |
| 14:35.48 | merlin1991 | *dumb* |
| 14:36.01 | merlin1991 | so basically everything that has no impact on the user isn't in there |
| 14:36.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm, so we actually already got release-notes besides the mere changelog? fine! :-D |
| 14:37.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: there are like 999 possible CB-Channels |
| 14:37.17 | merlin1991 | otherwise I could just dump the changelog file into a table structure, which would take far less time ;) |
| 14:37.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: none of which (except maybe 0 for an index that no carrier supports) is defined regarding the topic/usage |
| 14:39.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: anyway on N900 the modem doesn't *any* selection of CBC, it simply spits out *all* CB-SMS it receives |
| 14:39.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | the actual selection is done on application side |
| 14:40.20 | int_ua | and they are not being sent on a daily basis to test it, right? |
| 14:40.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: so the question you put can only be answered by another question: "right for what?" |
| 14:42.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | int_ua: (daily basis) depends. Channels like 221 on O2 or 50 on TMO which yield location info are (re)sent every other minute. Channels pushing tsunami warnings like done in Philipnes etc are very rarely sendinng any SMS |
| 14:42.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | channels delivering traffic jam info might send on an irregular schedule |
| 14:43.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | channels like weather forecast might send on a daily basis actually, though probably all the latter ones would just *update* the message content and then resend it every minute anyway |
| 14:44.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | CB-SMS are a one-to-many broadcast service without receipt acknowledge |
| 14:45.10 | int_ua | Thanks a lot, Doc :) Now I'm leaving and will play with it later |
| 14:45.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | so you want to resend them for the devices that are switched on or entered cell later |
| 14:46.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually the messages have a version number which is incremented with each content update, and it's duty of application to only shop a popup or whatever once for each new version |
| 14:47.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/shop/show/ |
| 14:48.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | location info like CBC50 never actually gets updated, so app will just show the most recent content all the time |
| 14:48.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather the content of location CB-SMS changes from cell to cell |
| 14:49.11 | merlin1991 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#T-maemo4 |
| 14:49.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | but is statically for each particular cell, so no content update, and no new version number |
| 14:49.15 | merlin1991 | now be happy ;) |
| 14:49.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
| 14:49.31 | merlin1991 | heads off to close bugs |
| 14:49.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | all hail to merlin1991 |
| 14:50.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: is it wise to close bugs on delivery of the patch? shouldn't they get closed by original reporter confirming the bug got squashed? |
| 14:51.05 | merlin1991 | original reporter never comes back in our case :/ |
| 14:51.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | (I know Nokia did different) |
| 14:51.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't mean we should do like Nokia |
| 14:52.01 | merlin1991 | well I can do just notices with info and let the user close |
| 14:52.08 | merlin1991 | though I suppose that is never going to happen |
| 14:52.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think a goot moment to close bug tickets is when we decide the patch is stable enough for S |
| 14:52.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | good* |
| 14:53.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you find a better ticket state than "closed" for those patches that just went into T |
| 14:53.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe "pending closure" or whatever |
| 14:53.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | or "fixed" |
| 14:54.36 | merlin1991 | well at least the cev ones can easily be "fixed" |
| 14:54.41 | merlin1991 | since we did apply the cve fixes :D |
| 14:55.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | "fixed" != "closed" |
| 14:55.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 14:55.40 | merlin1991 | main states are unconfirmed, new and resolved |
| 14:55.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ask andre_ about semantics of our maemo tracker ticket states |
| 14:56.01 | merlin1991 | and you can add additional info on resolved like fixed/wontfix/blabla |
| 14:56.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 14:56.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | nasty |
| 14:56.41 | merlin1991 | incoming bug is unconfirmed, goes to new when we say its valid |
| 14:56.49 | merlin1991 | and after that we can only go to resolved (fixed) |
| 14:56.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | and resolved == closed? |
| 14:57.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 14:58.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | considers that an unnecessarily limited and useless restriction on granularity of ticket states |
| 15:01.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | there are other shemes that have new, analyzing, analyzing done, implementing, implementing done, integrating, integrating done, pending rejection, rejected, closed |
| 15:02.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | analyzing_done == new of our scheme |
| 15:02.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | rejected | closed == resolved (wontfix | fixed) of our scheme |
| 15:03.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | we're missing "integrating" which is exactly the state the T4 related bugs should have now |
| 15:06.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously analyzing is the state a ticket shall get when we look into the problem and try to find out what's the deal. Analyzing done is: we think we know how to fix it - usually immediately changes to implementing when some devel grabs the task. |
| 15:07.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | implementing done: devel pushed his patch to git |
| 15:07.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | integrating: we integrate it into T |
| 15:08.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | integrating done: the new rev of T shipped and is under test |
| 15:08.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even - we moved it from T to S |
| 15:08.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | rejecting pending: we think it's invalid or wontfix |
| 15:09.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | rejected and closed as mentioned above |
| 15:11.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | as a bandaid we could add comments "analyzing done: <result of analysis>", "implementing: added to T4 on 2012-06-06" etc |
| 15:12.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/implementing/integrating/ |
| 15:13.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | "implementing: freemangordon on #maemo-ssu, 2012-05-19 20:34" |
| 15:13.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | even |
| 15:13.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | "implementing: assigned to freemangordon on #maemo-ssu, 2012-05-19 20:34" |
| 15:14.05 | freemangordon | ooh, why me again :( |
| 15:14.09 | freemangordon | :P |
| 15:14.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-))) |
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| 15:19.47 | freemangordon | merlin1991: why isn't that closed? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11861 |
| 15:19.49 | povbot_ | Bug 11861: Modest does not start |
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| 15:22.32 | freemangordon | merlin1991: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12621 :D:D:D |
| 15:22.33 | povbot_ | Bug 12621: sharing-plugin-facebook stopped working |
| 15:22.52 | freemangordon | closed wontfix, meh |
| 15:30.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: reopen it |
| 15:31.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | set to "integrating: shipping patch for libfbfoo.so with CSSU-T4" |
| 15:32.07 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: can I? Don't think so |
| 15:32.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you can't teh tell me, IIRC I can |
| 15:32.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | then* |
| 15:33.13 | freemangordon | I can't, at least I have NFC how. It is not obvious, so I assume I can't |
| 15:33.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I'll look into it |
| 15:33.31 | freemangordon | ok, thanks |
| 15:33.39 | freemangordon | BTW I commented on the bug |
| 15:33.55 | freemangordon | so, think twice what action you will take |
| 15:34.09 | merlin1991 | also we didn't fix that yet |
| 15:34.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng verisign issued SSL certs! |
| 15:34.17 | merlin1991 | we only know how to fix it |
| 15:34.37 | freemangordon | but that does not render the bug invalid |
| 15:34.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: we integrated a fix into T4, no? |
| 15:34.45 | freemangordon | or wontfix |
| 15:34.48 | freemangordon | no |
| 15:34.50 | merlin1991 | we did not include |
| 15:34.59 | merlin1991 | we only know that updated libcurl fixes that |
| 15:35.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, then it's implementing_done |
| 15:35.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | or even implementing |
| 15:35.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | who's assigned? |
| 15:35.38 | freemangordon | whatever, it is not "wesolved wontfix" |
| 15:35.40 | merlin1991 | Jaffa: err how does that mwkn twitter interface work wiki page only confuses me :D |
| 15:35.53 | freemangordon | nobody@maemo.org :D |
| 15:36.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: you're working on libcurl? |
| 15:36.23 | merlin1991 | luf or whatshisnick did |
| 15:36.35 | freemangordon | no, it is a guy who wants it to be included in CSSU |
| 15:36.38 | freemangordon | yeah, luf |
| 15:37.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, and we didn't include it to our git yet? |
| 15:37.22 | freemangordon | we have libcurl on gitorious, but it is older |
| 15:37.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E without patch |
| 15:37.35 | freemangordon | i.e. stock + a cve patch |
| 15:38.11 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, what we have is a 2008 version, the guy backported the one from wheezy |
| 15:38.24 | freemangordon | (as you may see, no "u" ) |
| 15:38.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | is this cve patch meant to fix the problem of 12621? |
| 15:38.29 | freemangordon | (or "ku" |
| 15:38.33 | freemangordon | no |
| 15:38.43 | freemangordon | it is meant to fix a cve |
| 15:38.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | so we are on "analyzing done" |
| 15:39.00 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 15:39.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | may I assign it to you, freemangordon? |
| 15:39.18 | freemangordon | merlin1991: how you're going to preceed with luf? |
| 15:39.25 | freemangordon | *proceed |
| 15:39.48 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: NP, just wait for merlin1991's answer |
| 15:44.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, andre_ empowered me to do this bmo editing |
| 15:44.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | so tell me what this bug' state now |
| 15:44.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | and who's assigned |
| 15:45.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'll start here and now to follow augmented ticket state scheme as introduced here before |
| 15:45.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | also please tell me whom to assign the ticket to |
| 15:47.00 | Raimu | :) |
| 15:51.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: got a pointer to details about analysis of the libcurl problem? |
| 15:51.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | chanlog? |
| 15:51.22 | freemangordon | #maemo-ssu log from Monday |
| 15:51.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 15:51.33 | freemangordon | s/from/on/ |
| 15:51.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | could you spot the proper line? |
| 15:52.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | for a link in BMO |
| 15:52.40 | freemangordon | hmm, NFC how to do that through the browser, any hint? |
| 15:53.39 | merlin1991 | click it |
| 15:53.41 | freemangordon | otherwise the conversaton starts with "Hi all. I have a question regarding curl. I updated the package to the debian testint curl-7.25.0 and created it in extras-devel (libcurl3 also in testing)." |
| 15:53.42 | merlin1991 | the timestamp |
| 15:54.02 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: when luf comes back here when I'm around we surely will procedd :D |
| 15:54.14 | freemangordon | merlin1991, aah, stupid me, (or better said blind me) |
| 15:54.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: click on timestamp right hand |
| 15:54.29 | freemangordon | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-06-04.log.html#t2012-06-04T20:53:32 |
| 15:54.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | thanks |
| 15:54.58 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I will PM him to join and hang here |
| 15:55.27 | freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW edited some typos in changelog |
| 15:55.34 | merlin1991 | thanks :) |
| 15:56.11 | freemangordon | hmm dosfstool initial release? |
| 15:56.28 | freemangordon | isn't that ubuntu upstream release? |
| 15:56.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: what's your BMO name? |
| 15:56.57 | freemangordon | let me check |
| 15:57.46 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: initial as in first time in cssu |
| 15:58.01 | merlin1991 | anything in the changelog called intial release is new to cssu |
| 15:58.42 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: Ivaylo Dimitrov |
| 15:58.53 | freemangordon | and my mail is freemangordon@abv.bg |
| 15:59.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | changing component to "testing" |
| 15:59.46 | freemangordon | merlin1991: sure, but it sounds like me and you wrote a piece of software end put it in CSSU, I think we should give a hint it is an upstream thingie included in CSSU |
| 15:59.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | err "version" |
| 16:01.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991: and libcurl does not have "initial release" :P |
| 16:01.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's "component"? |
| 16:01.33 | freemangordon | ~component |
| 16:01.33 | infobot | KControl -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser |
| 16:01.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | "general"? |
| 16:02.00 | freemangordon | what are the options? |
| 16:02.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | canera-ui, ..., hildon-home, ..., modest, ... |
| 16:02.59 | freemangordon | curl |
| 16:03.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | not available |
| 16:03.12 | freemangordon | add it |
| 16:03.20 | freemangordon | it is a part of CSSU sisnce T4 |
| 16:03.33 | freemangordon | s/sisnce/since/ |
| 16:04.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's libcptvout and stuff, but nothing about curl |
| 16:04.32 | freemangordon | I thing everything which is on gitorious should have it's component on bmo-cssu |
| 16:04.39 | freemangordon | *think |
| 16:04.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems I can't add components |
| 16:04.53 | freemangordon | pester andre then |
| 16:04.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, 'general' has to do |
| 16:05.20 | freemangordon | it does not make sence to put such a major library in "general" |
| 16:08.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's no other option for me right now |
| 16:09.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | if you can come up with a better suggestion, don't hesitate |
| 16:09.36 | freemangordon | ok, if there is no option... |
| 16:09.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | check the changes to 12621, tell me what you want to have changed, i'll see if I can do |
| 16:11.59 | freemangordon | unconfirmed? |
| 16:12.12 | freemangordon | well, I can change it now |
| 16:12.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | only option from the previous state |
| 16:12.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | confirm it |
| 16:12.36 | freemangordon | nah, I can only resolve it :D |
| 16:12.40 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: just add a few notes to "initial relaese" |
| 16:13.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, our "internal state" is @@analyzing_done@@ |
| 16:13.54 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: could you change the bug status to confirmed or something? |
| 16:13.59 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok |
| 16:14.12 | merlin1991 | new == confirmed |
| 16:14.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | new assigned resoved |
| 16:14.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | assigned seems the right state |
| 16:14.42 | freemangordon | yep |
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| 16:31.37 | kent_autistic | is there an update on testing? HAM showed nothing |
| 16:33.17 | merlin1991 | kent_autistic: there should be |
| 16:33.25 | merlin1991 | dpkg -l mp-fremantle-community-pr |
| 16:33.31 | freemangordon | Raimu, I find the reason for that missing symbol, the mangling of ‘va_list’ has changed in GCC 4.4 |
| 16:33.42 | freemangordon | Now need to find the way to overcome it |
| 16:35.05 | kent_autistic | merlin1991: nothing still |
| 16:35.34 | freemangordon | kent_autistic: strange, i've just upgraded |
| 16:36.00 | kent_autistic | argh ok il update ham again |
| 16:37.03 | kent_autistic | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.30 | freemangordon | ignore that |
| 16:37.52 | Raimu | OK! |
| 16:38.38 | kent_autistic | yup, still nothing in HAM |
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| 18:23.36 | amiconn | DocScrutinizer05: There is some way to change behaviour of power-button double click when locked. I don't know how it works, but I eSpeakTime triggers on that event |
| 18:24.21 | amiconn | s/but I/but/ |
| 18:25.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | mhm |
| 18:25.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it probably hooks into lockscreen directly |
| 18:27.50 | amiconn | Sounds plausible. Actually it doesn't trigger on double click, but on click-while-lockscreen-is-shown |
| 18:29.01 | amiconn | So by triple (or more) clicking it's possible to create nice echo effects (time spoken twice or more in parallel with slight offset(s)) |
| 18:36.41 | freemangordon | merlin1991: something is not working in thumb repo, daemon maybe :) |
| 18:36.52 | merlin1991 | dang |
| 18:36.58 | merlin1991 | forgot to add that to the init scripts |
| 18:37.00 | merlin1991 | coming right up |
| 18:37.37 | freemangordon | merlin1991, everything for -pr thing should be ready in -thumb |
| 18:37.37 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: should be running |
| 18:38.11 | freemangordon | nope |
| 18:38.17 | freemangordon | nothing moves |
| 18:38.44 | merlin1991 | ofc, since only a new .changes file would trigger an import ;) |
| 18:38.44 | freemangordon | merlin1991 ^^^ |
| 18:38.47 | merlin1991 | doing it manually now |
| 18:38.55 | freemangordon | aah |
| 18:39.36 | merlin1991 | done |
| 18:40.21 | freemangordon | ok, let me de apt-get update-upgrade |
| 18:40.26 | freemangordon | *do |
| 18:43.44 | freemangordon | seems ok |
| 18:45.18 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I am getting older, it is proven. Forgot to add -I.git to dpkg-buildpackage command, tar.gz is 500MB :| |
| 18:46.28 | freemangordon | Raimu: ping |
| 18:46.44 | Raimu | Reporting. |
| 18:47.22 | freemangordon | enable -thumb repo and do apt-get update/upgrade, a new Qt should be installed, fixing presencevnc |
| 18:47.25 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: outch |
| 18:47.55 | freemangordon | yeah :( |
| 18:48.37 | Raimu | freemangordon: Okay! I'll see it tomorrow. |
| 18:48.45 | Raimu | (It's 10 in the evening here now) |
| 18:48.46 | freemangordon | Raimu: ok |
| 18:48.55 | freemangordon | here too :) |
| 18:49.14 | Raimu | freemangordon, which country're you in? |
| 18:49.19 | freemangordon | Bulgaria |
| 18:49.31 | freemangordon | 21:45 more precisely |
| 18:49.39 | Raimu | Yup. |
| 18:49.58 | Raimu | You're "under" Finland, south, in the same time zone bracket. |
| 18:50.35 | freemangordon | Raimu: yeah. BTW i tried presencevnc here, it works (i.e. no myssing symbol), spits "unable to connect" |
| 18:50.42 | Raimu | Good! |
| 18:50.53 | freemangordon | s/myssing/missing/ |
| 18:51.05 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 18:51.19 | freemangordon | there was one more function like that, fixed it too |
| 18:52.57 | Pali | now somebody (from nokia?) commited some patches to *fremantle* evolution git repo, see: https://maemo.gitorious.org/eds-fremantle |
| 18:53.21 | Pali | what does this mean? |
| 18:54.00 | freemangordon | N960 with maemo5 |
| 18:54.02 | freemangordon | :P |
| 18:54.20 | Pali | :D:D |
| 18:54.29 | freemangordon | phonebook-benchmarks? WTF? |
| 18:54.55 | Pali | I have no idea |
| 18:58.58 | freemangordon | Pali: http://www.openismus.com/ |
| 18:59.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: hm? |
| 18:59.40 | freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/~hasselmm |
| 18:59.51 | freemangordon | so it is not nokia |
| 19:00.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's up with openismus? |
| 19:00.33 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: check the link on gitorious that pali gave |
| 19:00.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | (a 'branch of' qi-hardware, which in turn is the legitimate successor of openmoko) |
| 19:02.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh wait, maybe i was TOTALLY wrong about openismus |
| 19:03.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it seems to me now on second thought openismus been one of the contractors of Nokia for 2nd source sw components |
| 19:04.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | so this suggests sth going on inside Nokia to reuse parts of maemo for |
| 19:05.16 | freemangordon | meltemi? |
| 19:05.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka asha |
| 19:05.31 | freemangordon | it is s40 |
| 19:05.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | as ieatlint mentioned on #harmattan |
| 19:06.02 | freemangordon | asha is s40 |
| 19:06.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | yup, that's what he said |
| 19:06.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | but what do you expect mel-me turns out to be in the end? |
| 19:06.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | melt-me even |
| 19:07.13 | freemangordon | yeah, I like melt-me more |
| 19:07.15 | freemangordon | :D |
| 19:07.56 | freemangordon | you think they will use hildon again? |
| 19:08.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | [07.06.2012 19:52:54] <ieatlint> i bet asha gets qt dev... |
| 19:08.21 | freemangordon | as Qt is too heavy for low-end |
| 19:08.39 | freemangordon | but what EDS has to do with that |
| 19:08.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc |
| 19:09.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | clutching together some semi-oparable "desktop" aka set-of-applications? |
| 19:11.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991, DocScrutinizer05: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1219110&postcount=1556 |
| 19:13.14 | freemangordon | I think we should put new libcurl in CSSU ASAP |
| 19:13.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: post the link to the ticket |
| 19:14.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | as that seems the best thing to do with such link :-D |
| 19:14.36 | freemangordon | let me try to find it |
| 19:14.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | set ticket to @@implementing@@ |
| 19:15.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | as it's actually you who are assigned, and thus you're the one naturally allowed to post "@@implementing@@" to the ticket |
| 19:15.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | then eventually posz @@implementing_done@@ foo.git.bar/maemo/cssu/887d8d9838z98398983s |
| 19:16.11 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: it is a duplicate |
| 19:16.21 | freemangordon | but need some time to find the report |
| 19:17.11 | freemangordon | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9943 |
| 19:17.12 | povbot_ | Bug 9943: MfE Wizard fails if exchange server hostname has IPv4 and IPv6 addresses |
| 19:17.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | mark it as duplicate of 12621 |
| 19:17.52 | freemangordon | I cannot |
| 19:18.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* |
| 19:18.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | i guess i can |
| 19:18.12 | freemangordon | yep |
| 19:19.31 | freemangordon | I am wondering how many bugs are opened that are a duplicate to that |
| 19:21.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc |
| 19:21.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | toss then all over to me ;-D |
| 19:21.53 | freemangordon | maybe https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10490 |
| 19:21.54 | povbot_ | Bug 10490: MfE account creation: Invalid host - certificate issue |
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| 19:24.00 | freemangordon | and maybe https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11638 |
| 19:24.01 | povbot_ | Bug 11638: HTTPS doesn't work with IPv6 |
| 19:24.14 | freemangordon | hmm, scratch that |
| 19:24.22 | freemangordon | most probably not |
| 19:25.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm undecided about 10490, wouldn't want to outright close as duplicate |
| 19:25.24 | freemangordon | yeah, agree |
| 19:25.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe annotate it's probably dup of 12621 |
| 19:25.39 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 19:25.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | will you do? |
| 19:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's your finding after all |
| 19:26.42 | freemangordon | no, you'd better do it |
| 19:27.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
| 19:29.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | done |
| 19:41.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, scratch 11638 |
| 19:42.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I'm out of business for today |
| 19:42.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D |
| 19:42.38 | freemangordon | :D |
| 19:42.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | lol |
| 19:43.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Mid-air collision detected!<< |
| 19:43.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | back in browser |
| 19:43.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Someone else has made changes to bug 9943 at the same time you were trying to. The changes made were:<< |
| 19:43.30 | povbot_ | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/9943 MfE Wizard fails if exchange server hostname has IPv4 and IPv6 addresses |
| 20:34.20 | Atarii | hey freemangordon, i'm the guy who was chatting about MfE yesterday |
| 20:34.24 | Atarii | now upgrading libcurl3 |
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| 20:47.30 | Atarii | freemangordon upgraded libcurl3 doesn't seem to fix it |
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| 21:36.40 | Raimu | freemangordon, presencevnc works nicely. Yay! |
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