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| 17:53.32 | luf | Hi all. I have a question regarding curl. I updated the package to the debian testint curl-7.25.0 and created it in extras-devel (libcurl3 also in testing). |
| 17:53.45 | luf | I was pointed here as it should be part of cssu. |
| 17:54.25 | luf | Can I become the maintainer and what rules you have for it? Is it ok for you to update curl to such version? |
| 17:54.47 | luf | I'm using this version in day to day usage. But I don't test it widely. |
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| 18:04.39 | freemangordon | luf, you appear in the exact moment :D |
| 18:05.20 | luf | why? |
| 18:05.35 | freemangordon | it seems that fore some reason curl prefers IPv6 name resolving to IPv4, leading to FB widget/upload plugin to fail |
| 18:06.05 | freemangordon | see log on #maemo for the last 1-2 hours |
| 18:06.44 | luf | Ok. I'll try. To be honest I'm newbie in irc ... so it takes me more time to see it. |
| 18:06.58 | freemangordon | could you confirm that default for name resolving is CURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER |
| 18:07.34 | Estel_ | luf, here You have logs |
| 18:07.35 | Estel_ | http://wiki.maemo.org/IRC |
| 18:07.43 | Estel_ | (for all #maemo channels) |
| 18:07.46 | freemangordon | luf, search for "[19:12] <freemangordon> WTF? Facebook DNS resolves to IPv6 address" |
| 18:09.29 | Estel_ | luf, here You have exact link to start of conversation: |
| 18:09.30 | Estel_ | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2012-06-04.log.html#t2012-06-04T19:13:06 |
| 18:10.33 | Estel_ | BTW, luf, it's nice to - finally, see someone who updated those libcurl's, it was great mystery for me :) |
| 18:10.41 | Estel_ | it's ncie that You want to maintain it in CSSU |
| 18:10.49 | luf | Thanks I see it. How it's related to curl? |
| 18:11.00 | Estel_ | although, as You see, it require bug hunting, + bug hunting, and wsome bug hunting then :p |
| 18:11.07 | Estel_ | <freemangordon> could you confirm that default for name resolving is CURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER |
| 18:11.20 | freemangordon | fb widget/photo uploader uses curl to access FB API |
| 18:11.22 | Estel_ | freemangordon suspects, that it preffer IPv6 over IPv4 |
| 18:11.37 | Estel_ | causing one nasty plugin to fail, because it tries IPv^ on IPv4 enviromnent |
| 18:11.45 | Estel_ | s/IPv^/IPv6/ |
| 18:12.30 | luf | Ok. And freemangordon think it's bug in CURL? |
| 18:12.39 | freemangordon | luf, it is not a bug |
| 18:12.42 | luf | BTW freemangordon what libcurl3 version are you using? |
| 18:12.56 | freemangordon | stock one, let me paste the exact one |
| 18:13.16 | freemangordon | 7.18.2-8maemo6+0m5 |
| 18:14.10 | freemangordon | luf, I am not saying it is a bug, seems the "application" is buggy as it is not setting DNS resolving preferences and curl defaults to "use whatever can" |
| 18:14.46 | freemangordon | the problem i it is closed source (although I REed one part of it) |
| 18:15.03 | freemangordon | s/ i / is / |
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| 18:17.54 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ping |
| 18:20.38 | luf | Hmm I get IPv4 using ping on my N900. |
| 18:21.48 | freemangordon | luf, me too, but it seems FB widget (library) does not set CURLOPT_IPRESOLVE, and it defaults to CURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER |
| 18:22.25 | freemangordon | and I am wondering is it a good idea to change the default |
| 18:22.41 | luf | So you suggest some hack to detect if there is some IPv6 set? |
| 18:23.08 | freemangordon | luf, maemo5 userlan does not support IPv6 AFAIK |
| 18:23.12 | freemangordon | *userland |
| 18:23.20 | Estel_ | OTOH, it would be sad to change upstream debian behavior jsut to comfort Fb plugin |
| 18:23.29 | Estel_ | not yet :D |
| 18:23.34 | Estel_ | Pali have almsot finished it |
| 18:23.35 | freemangordon | Estel_, have a better idea? |
| 18:24.11 | Estel_ | freemangordon, either Re facebook more, or decide that it isn't worth longer pursuit. risk of breaking something such crucial as librcurl just to satisfy one ap would be a PREY for all CSSU haters |
| 18:24.23 | freemangordon | :D |
| 18:24.26 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 18:24.38 | Estel_ | some things are fucked, and Yuo can't do much about it. Facebook, apple jack connectors... |
| 18:24.54 | luf | I think the hack to detect if there is some IPv6 address assigned is the best solution. |
| 18:25.08 | Estel_ | it depends where this hack could be palced |
| 18:25.08 | luf | I don't think it's too risky. |
| 18:25.17 | Estel_ | if on facebook plugin side/wrapper/whatever, it's ok |
| 18:25.20 | luf | In libcurl. |
| 18:25.28 | freemangordon | luf, isn't it better to default to IPv4 name resolving? |
| 18:25.30 | Estel_ | if inside curl, You udnerstand that eveyr new version would need, erm, attitude adjustment? |
| 18:25.33 | luf | CURL_IPRESOLVE_WHATEVER - this should correctly detect what it can use. |
| 18:26.01 | Estel_ | hey, lets jsut replace it with upload to zerobin |
| 18:26.09 | Estel_ | many people would be happy, actually |
| 18:26.12 | Estel_ | included |
| 18:26.31 | freemangordon | luf, I have NFC how curl decides what DNS query to send |
| 18:26.42 | luf | freemangordon: no from my point of view for the future. |
| 18:26.51 | freemangordon | and why it prefers IPv6 over IPv4 |
| 18:27.03 | luf | I take a look inside the code, |
| 18:30.30 | Estel_ | freemangordon, in meantime, have You noticed, that basically everyone whinning about kernel-power being evil is 99,99%-100% inactive @ maemo? |
| 18:30.49 | Estel_ | Usually, you won't find such things in TMO, as people there usually *use* device ;) (pun intended) |
| 18:31.21 | Estel_ | but her eon IRc, many "old timers", that keep n900 for sake of it, or don't use it at all for any real purpose, let's put alone development |
| 18:31.41 | Estel_ | ...but eveyr such person got something fresh&fancy to say about kp |
| 18:31.47 | freemangordon | Estel_, in meantime I am trying to find why my feedservice-plugin-fb-common FOSS replacement segfaults when frees the memory :D |
| 18:31.56 | Estel_ | :D |
| 18:32.03 | luf | :D |
| 18:32.04 | Estel_ | cleptomaniac, probably |
| 18:32.46 | Estel_ | in meantimes is trying to find WTF about GPIO on wrt54GL linksys, when running kernel 2.6 |
| 18:33.09 | luf | freemangordon can you test the latest libcurl3 from extras-testing? |
| 18:33.16 | luf | I'm just curious :) |
| 18:33.25 | freemangordon | luf, do you have FB account? |
| 18:33.55 | Estel_ | luf, I use libcurl from devel |
| 18:34.13 | Estel_ | ahh, but in conjuction with facebook. not me, sorry |
| 18:34.17 | freemangordon | Estel_, but you sais you don't have FB |
| 18:34.22 | freemangordon | *said |
| 18:34.24 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 18:34.59 | Estel_ | but if You will ever try to port/RE anything KLOUT related to N900, I swear, I will kill you (cybernetically) |
| 18:35.36 | freemangordon | KLOUT? |
| 18:35.46 | freemangordon | cloud? |
| 18:36.35 | Estel_ | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/klout.png |
| 18:36.47 | Estel_ | sadly, it's about real thing |
| 18:36.54 | Estel_ | not xkcd pun |
| 18:37.42 | Estel_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klout |
| 18:38.53 | freemangordon | aah,ok |
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| 18:41.28 | luf | Estel_ ok, testing has same version as devel. |
| 18:47.58 | freemangordon | great, reason for segfault found, now we have a (working?) FOSS rewrite of feedservice-plugin-fb-common :P |
| 18:52.24 | Estel_ | nice :) but it still uses IPv6? |
| 18:52.34 | freemangordon | yep :D |
| 18:57.30 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 18:58.01 | freemangordon | merlin1991, see the backlog, seems we have a new CSSU volunteer :) |
| 18:58.08 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 18:58.10 | merlin1991 | err |
| 18:58.11 | merlin1991 | yay |
| 18:58.12 | luf | The problem is that you have IPv6 address ono N900 |
| 18:58.23 | luf | Let's try ifconfig -a |
| 18:58.33 | merlin1991 | don't have my n900 around :/ |
| 18:58.37 | luf | curl test if IPv6 working ... |
| 18:58.43 | merlin1991 | also freemangordon you pinged me? |
| 18:58.58 | luf | N900# ifconfig -a |
| 18:58.58 | luf | lo Link encap:Local Loopback |
| 18:58.58 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.58 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.59 | freemangordon | merlin1991, yep |
| 18:59.45 | freemangordon | luf, yeah, same here |
| 18:59.58 | freemangordon | luf, which kernel do you use? |
| 19:00.22 | freemangordon | merlin1991, luf asked how to add curl to CSSU |
| 19:00.58 | merlin1991 | present rationaly as to why we need the update, proof it doesn't brake stock maemo, be maintainer |
| 19:01.04 | merlin1991 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.33 | luf | freemangordon: 2.6.28.10-power50 |
| 19:02.53 | freemangordon | hmm, will try to disable ipv6 |
| 19:02.56 | luf | merlin1991: sha-2 support, many security fixes |
| 19:03.39 | luf | merlin1991: what proof is enough? It's several weeks in extras-testing. |
| 19:04.10 | merlin1991 | well so far we assumed good faith and just tried to ship stuff with cssu :D |
| 19:04.10 | luf | merlin1991: I have no problem with my N900 for I think 2 month using it. |
| 19:06.10 | freemangordon | merlin1991: cssu-devel shyould be the way to go |
| 19:06.15 | freemangordon | *should |
| 19:06.26 | merlin1991 | btw luf it would be great if you could compile a list of security fixes / big changes from the memo libcurl to upstream or whatever you used |
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| 19:14.52 | luf | merlin1991: I get curl source deb from wheezy and just change the debian subdir (mainly control) |
| 19:16.20 | luf | I saw that maemo 7.18.X has some things backported from newer versions. |
| 19:17.22 | luf | freemangordon I see no way to change curl to be ok with the FB |
| 19:18.04 | luf | The only way is to disable IPv6 support at compile time. |
| 19:18.59 | freemangordon | luf: could we change the default for IPRESOLVE? In curl_easy_init for example? |
| 19:19.59 | freemangordon | BTW blacklisting ipv6 module don't help |
| 19:22.34 | luf | freemangordon: did you reboot the N900? |
| 19:23.08 | freemangordon | luf: after blacklisting? of course |
| 19:23.15 | luf | freemangordon: we can change the default but it's not a win. |
| 19:23.33 | luf | It disallow to use FB on IPv6 net. |
| 19:24.05 | freemangordon | luf: hmm, i will install curl from extras-devel, lets see |
| 19:24.25 | luf | freemangordon: I think no change. |
| 19:28.08 | tadzik | anyone using mapsi? |
| 19:28.42 | luf | freemangordon: ifconfig returns no ipv6 ip? |
| 19:28.55 | freemangordon | luf, actually we're in :P |
| 19:29.06 | luf | What? |
| 19:29.06 | freemangordon | with curl from extras-devel |
| 19:29.10 | freemangordon | yah |
| 19:29.21 | freemangordon | *yeah |
| 19:29.23 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
| 19:29.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ |
| 19:29.43 | luf | So disable ipv6 and curl from devel/testing fix the problem? Goood. |
| 19:29.51 | freemangordon | let me unblacklist ipv6 and try again |
| 19:30.24 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: in with your fb lib? |
| 19:31.13 | freemangordon | stock one, going to try mine in a couple of minutes |
| 19:31.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991 ^^^ |
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| 19:32.06 | freemangordon | but yeah, it is definitely the curl who's to blame |
| 19:32.32 | merlin1991 | dat rofl |
| 19:32.43 | merlin1991 | does it still work with ipv6 not blacklisted |
| 19:32.51 | freemangordon | rebooting |
| 19:33.22 | luf | It's like horror. I don't know if I want to see the result :D |
| 19:34.09 | freemangordon | account setup completed successfuly |
| 19:34.14 | freemangordon | ipv6 enabled |
| 19:34.22 | freemangordon | let me try to upload a photo |
| 19:34.24 | merlin1991 | all your work for nothing xD |
| 19:35.44 | freemangordon | merlin1991, why? 480 lies of source code, I don't see a problem to put that in CSSU. And have in mind access token renewal ;) |
| 19:35.56 | freemangordon | *lines :D:D:D |
| 19:36.20 | Raimu | One of those epic typos. |
| 19:36.26 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 19:36.58 | luf | freemangordon: it's like some serie ... too long. Wrote if it works or not :D |
| 19:37.40 | freemangordon | http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=3208055410443&set=a.1294670977028.2036500.1537931068&type=1&theater |
| 19:37.52 | freemangordon | NFC if you can see it, but it is there |
| 19:38.06 | freemangordon | a total win, thanks a lot luf |
| 19:38.48 | luf | freemangordon: ifconfig shows you the IPv6 addresses too? |
| 19:39.53 | freemangordon | lo Link encap:Local Loopback |
| 19:39.54 | freemangordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.54 | freemangordon | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.05 | freemangordon | FB widget works too |
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| 19:41.34 | freemangordon | jacekowski: check the logs for the last 30 minutes or so |
| 19:43.05 | luf | So what's the way to put it into cssu-dev :) |
| 19:43.22 | freemangordon | hmm, good question :D |
| 19:43.27 | freemangordon | merlin1991 ^^^ |
| 19:43.53 | freemangordon | luf, do you have TMO account? |
| 19:44.07 | luf | No idea what is TMO :) |
| 19:44.15 | freemangordon | aah, great |
| 19:44.24 | freemangordon | http://talk.maemo.org |
| 19:44.25 | freemangordon | :P |
| 19:44.36 | luf | I have. |
| 19:44.38 | merlin1991 | ITT ;) |
| 19:44.43 | jacekowski | well i don't really see the problem in first place, facebook apps are for addicts, and we shouldn't support addictions |
| 19:44.53 | freemangordon | WHAT? |
| 19:45.17 | freemangordon | and who is to decide which SW is not needed anymore? |
| 19:45.23 | freemangordon | meh |
| 19:46.42 | freemangordon | luf, care to share it? |
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| 19:47.16 | luf | Share what? |
| 19:47.25 | freemangordon | your TMO account name |
| 19:47.37 | luf | luf ? |
| 19:47.41 | luf | I'll check. |
| 19:48.10 | luf | Sure. luf :) |
| 19:48.21 | freemangordon | aah, ok :) |
| 19:48.25 | luf | :D |
| 19:49.32 | luf | freemangordon: Isn't the difference only in DNS cache? |
| 19:49.39 | freemangordon | well, merlin1991, it is you and MohammadAG from now on :P ( re luf and curl) |
| 19:49.46 | luf | Can you try again the older libcurl3? |
| 19:49.48 | freemangordon | luf, which difference? |
| 19:50.22 | luf | Working FB - old curl x new curl (after reboot - clean DNS cache). |
| 19:50.35 | freemangordon | luf, no, it is not that |
| 19:50.57 | freemangordon | And btw I am not sure if n900 maintains DNS cache |
| 19:51.01 | luf | Ok, just a question to prevent too early celebration :D |
| 19:51.21 | luf | N900# ps axf | grep dnsmas |
| 19:51.21 | luf | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.23 | freemangordon | this crap does not work since 15th of May or something ;) |
| 19:51.30 | luf | Sure it does :) |
| 19:51.38 | luf | Ok. |
| 19:51.47 | freemangordon | not only on my device, there are several threads on TMO about the problem |
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| 19:59.48 | chem|st | o/ |
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| 20:18.25 | freemangordon | luf: in order a package to enter extras-testing it just need a promotion from the developer, while it is a little different with cssu-testing. In short CSSU team should assume a package STABE to enter cssu-testing |
| 20:18.37 | freemangordon | *STABLE |
| 20:18.53 | freemangordon | i.e. no known bugs |
| 20:20.00 | chem|st | +1 |
| 20:20.01 | freemangordon | and once a package is in CSSU-testing it passes a "quarantine", i.e. it may enter cssu-stable only if there are no problems for a month or two |
| 20:20.56 | chem|st | debian way? 15 days unstable without errors proceeds to testing?! |
| 20:21.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | o/ chem|st |
| 20:21.36 | freemangordon | chem|st, well, -devel repo is relatively new, still no hard procedure |
| 20:21.38 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: mooo! how is work? |
| 20:21.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | YAAAWN |
| 20:21.49 | chem|st | hehe |
| 20:21.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | almost 5h done |
| 20:21.54 | chem|st | you asked for it |
| 20:22.01 | chem|st | :D |
| 20:22.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | and still wasted |
| 20:22.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not exactly feeling any better than this noon ;-D |
| 20:23.05 | chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: well I feel like shiate today |
| 20:23.17 | chem|st | posp another beer... |
| 20:23.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, if it wasn't for the next modem for community (at least that's what I love to think and believe) |
| 20:24.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | LTE, up to 100Mb downstream, and should be way less powerhog than UMTS |
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| 20:25.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | you know TI blaze? |
| 20:26.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | my test platform for the module |
| 20:26.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I have to touch andidiot now XP |
| 20:27.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | google for caif_hsi.c and you see some abominations I have to deal with in work |
| 20:28.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | or simply look here and tell me what you think of that http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/net/caif/caif_socket.c#L377 |
| 20:29.04 | chem|st | I don't know it but I know what it is |
| 20:29.22 | chem|st | if I'd know it I would make mobilephones... |
| 20:29.46 | chem|st | and tablets and not atmoprobe tomography |
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| 20:30.32 | chem|st | luf: freemangordon at least uploads work fine (still) |
| 20:32.55 | freemangordon | luf: seems merlin1991 is busy right now, usually he is much more "cooperative". Just hang here (when you have free time), and ping him or MohammadAG. These guys are the maintainers and they should make the decision on how curl will neter CSSU |
| 20:33.10 | freemangordon | *enter |
| 20:33.50 | freemangordon | chem|st, good, lets run it for a couple of days to see how it will develop :) |
| 20:33.56 | luf | freemangordon: Ok thanks. |
| 20:35.15 | luf | The source for libcurl3 7.25.0-1 is on extras-devel/testing if someone is interested in. And there is also mail contact to me if I don't hang :D |
| 20:36.36 | freemangordon | luf: you'd better hang if you want to be a part of the CSSU team ;). All of us do it :P |
| 20:39.45 | luf | freemangordon: understand |
| 20:46.03 | luf | freemangordon: I see in log I don't answer you about FB account. For sure I have no FB account and I don't want to have one :D |
| 20:46.44 | freemangordon | LOL |
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