IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20120531

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09:32.06rzs19hmm, the kernel ignores swappiness, is this a known bug, or i'm doing something wrong? swappiness is set to 10, so it should only start to swap, when 10% are left.
09:32.31rzs19per default it is at 100% and i don't think its good for the flash
09:32.54tadzikI have it set to 0 on my pc and the kernel ignores it as well
09:33.06rzs19but why?
09:33.15tadzikno eye deer
09:33.17rzs19and which kernel version?
09:33.26tadzikany version I ever tried, 3.2.0 included
09:33.40tadzikI suppose it knows better than me anyway
09:34.04rzs19yeah but swapping on flash, i don't thin kits good for the lifetime.
09:34.28rzs19and why i should neeed a big disk cache on a handy?
09:34.46amiconnThe N900 is quite short on RAM
09:35.24amiconnexperienced several OOM kills already
09:35.59rzs19i know 256, but it should be enough.
09:36.35amiconn"640 KB RAM should be enough for everybody" ;)
09:36.41rzs19:D
09:37.04rzs19i wish there would be a more lightweight version of maemo
09:37.29rzs19no fancy effects
09:38.50rzs19well... the xterm is all i need ;D
09:41.40rzs19after my secondary n900 will be there, i can play a little with the gui
09:41.59rzs19and the services and whatever :)
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11:42.35kent_autisticarcean: ping
11:43.25arceankent_autistic, pong
11:44.14kent_autisticany eta to your task launcher with folders?
11:45.24arceanunfortunately no
11:46.18arceanmaybe in july there'll be a testing release :P
11:47.17arceani'm busy right now, as i'll have to defend my thesis soon. Which means a lot of work :)
11:47.22kent_autisticjuly!?!?! the next release of testing is on july!?!? why so long
11:47.35kent_autisticoh goodluck then
11:50.21arceanmost of the needed stuff is already in place, the biggest challange will be to adopt gui to new functions
11:51.30arceanwhich has to be done in 'hildon' way ;)
11:52.33merlin1991arcean:  "defend your thesis" ?
11:53.10arceanyeah :/
11:54.33arceanit's about some math stuff and harmattan :D
11:54.42merlin1991rofl
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12:13.34merlin1991freemangordon: ping
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12:48.38freemangordonmerlin1991, ping
12:49.06merlin1991could you upload the gcc sources you used to build the gcc and libstc++ to the develdebs folder?
12:49.57merlin1991also I jsut finished packing the lib
12:50.02merlin1991wasn't easy :D
12:51.14freemangordonmerlin1991, it is gcc4.6.2 release from gcc site
12:51.32merlin1991gimme the full link and I'll just wget it on the server
12:51.41freemangordonjust a second
12:51.45merlin1991thanks to gpl we can't simply say get it over there :/
12:51.55freemangordonactually we can
12:52.01freemangordonAFAIK
12:52.03merlin1991not really
12:52.12merlin1991gpl states that *we* have to provide the source
12:52.18freemangordonif requested :)
12:52.39merlin1991true :D
12:52.39merlin1991anyway better be on the safe side :)
12:52.48freemangordonso if someone request it, we can give him the link
12:53.46merlin1991uh oh
12:53.58merlin1991I just checked what you did with the qt version number
12:54.31freemangordonadd -thumb0
12:54.35freemangordonany problem?
12:55.00merlin1991yea so when -testing does a cssu7 this goes over the -thumb0
12:55.00freemangordonnah
12:55.07merlin1991oh yes it does :D
12:55.08freemangordoni've already tried that with h-d
12:55.35freemangordonadding -thumbX and after that increasing the version should work
12:55.50freemangordonI think dpkg is smart enough
12:56.36freemangordonBTW if -testing goes cssu7, it is better those having thumb-compiled to wait for cssu7-thumb0 before upgrading ;)
12:57.04merlin1991you can never trust the user ;)
12:57.14merlin1991remember how many people suggest to use apt-get upgrade on tmo
12:57.33freemangordonmerlin, either ways we are safe
12:57.48merlin1991and something+cssu5 is > than something+cssu4-thumx for dpkg
12:58.00merlin1991yeah sure the debs from -testing should still work
12:58.05freemangordonmerlin1991, exactly
12:58.31merlin1991though you'll have odd results regarding "is it really thumb" and "what keeps happening to my rootfs"
12:58.54freemangordonthat way thumb users will receive latest -testing (even ARM-only compiled) while I am preparing -thumb version
12:59.13merlin1991on the other hand you'll probably update more often than -testing :D
12:59.26freemangordonthere is NP with it, as only thumb-compiled Qt is on rootfs, master is on /opt
12:59.34freemangordonyeah, maybe
12:59.49merlin1991hm I wander that to use for the mp version
12:59.53freemangordonhmm, the rate should be the same as for -devel
13:00.18merlin1991*wonder*
13:00.21freemangordonthe "-thumb0" suffix
13:00.43merlin1991makes sense
13:00.56freemangordonor only -thumb
13:01.05merlin1991yeah only -thumb
13:01.15merlin1991afaik mag pushed an update to -testing yesterday
13:03.07merlin1991freemangordon: which packages did you compile for thumb already?
13:07.02merlin1991well actually, just give me the versions + package names you currently have thumb ready
13:07.07merlin1991so I can do the mp
13:08.37freemangordonmerlin1991, isn't it easy to just get Packages.gz from the repo?
13:08.43freemangordon*easier
13:08.50freemangordonas I don't have su a list
13:08.54freemangordon*such
13:09.00merlin1991dang you should keep such a list in the future :D
13:09.35freemangordonfor the future I won't ask you tu update mp packages, just this time
13:09.42freemangordon:)
13:10.45freemangordonaaah, merlin1991, wait
13:11.19freemangordonQt depends on libstdc++ 4.2.1, should depend on 4.6.2 or whatever the lib package version is
13:11.23Raimu"what keeps happening to my rootfs" :D
13:11.38merlin1991shit
13:12.03freemangordonYeah, I will have to rebuild it
13:12.14merlin19914.6.2+cssu0
13:12.30merlin1991is the libstdc++ version
13:12.33freemangordonthe package is in the repo?
13:12.36merlin1991not yet
13:13.01freemangordonpush it, as otherwise I won't be able to test that all dependencies are in place
13:13.59merlin1991on my way
13:16.32merlin1991freemangordon: should be there
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13:18.59freemangordonok, thanks
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