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06:38.35 | amiconn | merlin1991: That post reminds me: Is the upgrade to Qt 4.7.0 part of CSSU? |
06:39.51 | amiconn | I'm asking because it is incomplete - some packages needed for building stuff in scratchbox are missing (e.g. qt4-dev-tools for lconvert) |
06:48.35 | Lava_Croft | hi i have 150 apps installed and now i think its cssu that breaks stuff!!111 |
06:48.42 | Lava_Croft | goddamn |
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09:22.21 | BCMM | since the last cssu testing upgrade, the keyboard status appears to be ignored for rotation purposes |
09:22.53 | BCMM | i.e. if the phone is vertical with the kb open, autorotated apps are vertical too |
09:23.17 | BCMM | and the phone up is always rotated |
09:23.24 | BCMM | any ideas to fix it? |
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11:02.36 | freemangordon | BCMM, cannot reproduce it here |
11:03.40 | BCMM | is there a setting for that in transitiond.ini perhaps? |
11:03.55 | BCMM | s/tiond/tions/ |
11:13.48 | Lava_Croft | BCMM: i cant repro it either |
11:14.03 | Lava_Croft | rotation works fine here :( |
11:14.10 | Lava_Croft | well, actually :) for me |
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11:20.07 | freemangordon | BCMM, no, there is no such setting |
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11:29.43 | merlin1991 | amiconn: cssu brings QT 4.7.4 |
11:29.54 | merlin1991 | I think 4.7.0 came with pr 1.2 |
11:34.37 | freemangordon | Pali, any clue where to searc in ke-recv source for partition names? |
11:34.44 | freemangordon | file would be enough |
11:35.07 | Pali | partition names should be get from hal |
11:35.20 | Pali | i think see file event.c |
11:35.23 | Pali | or ke-recv.c |
11:35.27 | freemangordon | ok, thanks |
11:36.19 | Pali | merlin1991, is qt 4.8 also for maemo? |
11:36.29 | Pali | or is qt maemo dead? |
11:36.29 | merlin1991 | afaikt not |
11:36.35 | freemangordon | why? |
11:36.39 | merlin1991 | there are no #maemo ifdefs in qt 4.8 anymore |
11:36.41 | freemangordon | we just need to compile it |
11:36.53 | freemangordon | ok, backort it :D |
11:37.14 | freemangordon | s/backort/backport/ |
11:37.29 | merlin1991 | it will still work (Mag compiled it some time ago) but we'll loose 100% of maemo optimisation and maemo specific stuff |
11:37.55 | Pali | so qt maemo was not upstreamed? |
11:38.36 | freemangordon | merlin1991, there are just a couple os maemo specific files in 4.7, there's no reason those would not work with 4.8 |
11:38.42 | freemangordon | *of |
11:44.39 | DocScrutinizer | BCMM: sounds a lot like my problem |
11:44.48 | DocScrutinizer | as of yesterday |
11:46.20 | DocScrutinizer | the whole rotation thing is thoroughly messed up by specs, and obviously there are several dials to turn that need to be in consistent positions or otherwise strange things happen |
11:47.05 | DocScrutinizer | BCMM: see backscroll |
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11:53.30 | BCMM | dials? |
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12:40.42 | Lava_Croft | lol |
12:40.44 | Lava_Croft | "Google Earns $2 Per Handset; Apple, $575" |
12:55.54 | amiconn | merlin1991: Hmm. Are there CSSU specific repositories for scratchbox? Maybe I'm missing those... |
12:56.38 | freemangordon | amiconn, just add CSSU repos in your /etc/apt/source.lists |
12:57.10 | freemangordon | amiconn, like that: |
12:57.12 | freemangordon | deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free |
12:57.12 | freemangordon | deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free |
12:57.35 | amiconn | I'll try in a moment. First I have to install latest cssu on device |
12:57.39 | freemangordon | that is for testing, of cource, but it is the same for 0stable |
12:58.39 | amiconn | wonders which packages will get lost this time, and whether it will again forget to re-activate bluetooth |
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13:07.16 | amiconn | I'm getting a gpg error |
13:08.47 | freemangordon | so? |
13:08.55 | freemangordon | and where? |
13:09.24 | amiconn | In scratchbox 'apt-get update' after adding the cssu repo |
13:09.47 | freemangordon | ignore it |
13:12.39 | amiconn | Hmm. Some things are still not available even with the cssu repo |
13:12.54 | freemangordon | Pali, the problem with ke-recv volume names is in fact in osso-gnome-vfs2 :( |
13:13.17 | freemangordon | If you wish get the source code and look in debian/patches directory |
13:13.23 | amiconn | None of qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev or git are installable |
13:14.05 | Pali | freemangordon, ok |
13:14.36 | freemangordon | amicon, i see -dev packages in repo, what exactly is missing? |
13:14.45 | amiconn | The first ist way outdated (4.5.x and its dependencies are 4.7.x), the second misses all its dependencies, and the third is not available at all |
13:15.33 | freemangordon | git? that should be in sdk repo afaik. might be wrong |
13:16.25 | freemangordon | amiconn, I am not sure what is your problem , but http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/libqt4-dev_4.7.4~git20110505+cssu3_armel.deb is where it should be, which dependencies is it missing |
13:16.29 | freemangordon | ? |
13:16.57 | amiconn | http://pastie.org/3749846 |
13:18.02 | freemangordon | amiconn, did you do apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade? |
13:18.10 | amiconn | yes |
13:18.23 | freemangordon | and you have qt4.7.4 installed? |
13:18.44 | freemangordon | what did apt-get upgrade say? |
13:19.39 | freemangordon | btw, what is that qt4-dev-tools? never heard about it |
13:19.58 | amiconn | I did a dist-upgrade, and it complained that several packages could not be authenticated |
13:20.14 | amiconn | After going on with 'y' it worked |
13:20.17 | freemangordon | dist-upgrade? try with simple upgrade |
13:20.34 | freemangordon | update/upgrade |
13:20.53 | freemangordon | what SB do you use? |
13:21.02 | freemangordon | PR1.2? |
13:21.35 | amiconn | deb http://scratchbox.org/debian/ fremantle main |
13:22.06 | freemangordon | not using Nokia installer? |
13:23.34 | amiconn | I don't remember exactly (it's been a year and a half) but iirc the installer (python script) didn't work so I chose the manual method |
13:23.58 | amiconn | Maybe I'm missing a few other repos from scratchbox's sources.list? |
13:24.34 | freemangordon | well, NFC the, I am using Nokia installer for PR1.3 and don't have any problems. here is my sources.list |
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14:21.28 | merlin1991 | amiconn I think apt doesn't like you there |
14:21.47 | merlin1991 | you'll have to install qt4.7.4 first |
14:21.54 | merlin1991 | then you should be able to install libqt4-dev |
14:22.05 | merlin1991 | though I have nfc about qt4-dev-tools |
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14:26.32 | backtrackmobile | happy easter |
14:27.29 | backtrackmobile | could someone help me with cameraui2? i made a mo file, it doesnt translate all the funcitions, then i translated some values in my language, coulsd someone compileme the source ? i have not the sdk and i updated the cssu today on my device |
14:29.06 | backtrackmobile | no one ? |
14:29.12 | merlin1991 | backtrackmobile: this is irc |
14:29.30 | merlin1991 | in other words you might need more than a few mins to get an anwser :) |
14:29.47 | merlin1991 | but back to you question, which strings are not translated? |
14:30.14 | backtrackmobile | "open on lens cover..." "close on lens cover..." |
14:30.25 | backtrackmobile | GPS location, color, timer... |
14:30.53 | backtrackmobile | i'm italian and i want to have the camera in italian, the mo file doesnt work for some lines |
14:30.53 | merlin1991 | is there anything translated to your language? |
14:31.00 | backtrackmobile | nope |
14:31.31 | merlin1991 | hm |
14:31.47 | merlin1991 | I just checked on gitorious and it seems that there is a proper translation in place |
14:31.52 | merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/camera-ui-l10n/blobs/master/po/it_IT.po |
14:32.59 | backtrackmobile | sure? |
14:33.00 | merlin1991 | could you check the output of dpkg -l osso-camera-ui-l10n-itit |
14:33.10 | backtrackmobile | doesnt work it |
14:33.11 | merlin1991 | and see what version it reports? |
14:33.22 | backtrackmobile | i updated today my camera |
14:34.14 | backtrackmobile | some lines are untranslated |
14:34.40 | merlin1991 | just check the line I wrote please |
14:34.57 | backtrackmobile | and, in the po u posted, there arent the lines like "sepia" "solarize" etc, dont inxist |
14:35.42 | merlin1991 | still please check the version of you installed l10n package |
14:35.50 | backtrackmobile | ok |
14:35.50 | merlin1991 | s/you/your/ |
14:38.04 | backtrackmobile | merlin are u italian ? |
14:38.23 | merlin1991 | nope I'm from austria |
14:38.43 | backtrackmobile | ah ok, i updated today the cssu |
14:38.58 | merlin1991 | are you on cssu-testing or cssu-stable? |
14:39.25 | merlin1991 | also I'm still missing your anwser regarding version number ;) |
14:40.37 | backtrackmobile | anyway, the dpkg folder, is ovewrited becouse i dont want more updates, i updated today, and i deleted the info folder form dpkg, and putted in a custom one, but i updated today and u are talking about DVD hd etc.. this is correct, fixed by myself in the mo file, testing, i have the last |
14:40.58 | backtrackmobile | missed part |
14:41.37 | backtrackmobile | i deleted the /var/lib/dpkg with a custom one to leave it without more updates everything works fine |
14:41.51 | backtrackmobile | then i decided to stop the updates |
14:43.19 | backtrackmobile | do you know hot to fix this kind of thing? becouse, i translated the lines in the source, couse the mo file doesnt accept my values |
14:44.50 | merlin1991 | if you played with /var/lib/dpkg then I don't know how you're going to proceed in the future, but to fix this problem you should be able to just put a fixed mo file in the right directory |
14:44.55 | merlin1991 | and reboot the device |
14:45.02 | backtrackmobile | i know |
14:45.08 | backtrackmobile | i'm not a noob |
14:45.14 | backtrackmobile | i did it |
14:45.29 | merlin1991 | and it didn't work? |
14:45.53 | backtrackmobile | but some lines are untranslated, and, i dont need to reboot, i can kill camera process to see it ;) |
14:46.15 | merlin1991 | yeah reboot is safer though ;) |
14:46.21 | backtrackmobile | nope, some line no, like color, timer, etc... i see them in english, but i want them in italian |
14:46.55 | merlin1991 | sure, so possibly there are lines that are not translated at all that would require a fix in the camera binary + a mo file |
14:47.07 | merlin1991 | looks at camera-ui source |
14:47.15 | backtrackmobile | did it |
14:47.23 | merlin1991 | do you have a diff I could apply? |
14:47.36 | backtrackmobile | no, i have no a compiler here |
14:47.40 | merlin1991 | we are always interested in improvements :) |
14:47.51 | merlin1991 | I mean a diff of the sources |
14:48.18 | backtrackmobile | sources, i changed the fìvalues for the functions i need, in italian for example |
14:48.37 | merlin1991 | yeah I'm intested in that change |
14:48.40 | merlin1991 | I can compile you a binary |
14:48.46 | backtrackmobile | ah thxxxx |
14:48.51 | backtrackmobile | u saved my life!!! |
14:49.18 | backtrackmobile | where can i upload it ? |
14:49.35 | merlin1991 | is it only in one file, or more than one? |
14:49.48 | backtrackmobile | is the tar gz |
14:50.02 | backtrackmobile | just one tar.gz is |
14:50.16 | backtrackmobile | 68kb |
14:50.37 | merlin1991 | you could email it to me |
14:50.42 | backtrackmobile | ok |
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15:02.14 | amiconn | merlin1991: freemangordon helped me with my sources.list. I've been able to install libqt4-dev as well as git now, but qt4-dev-tools are still way outdated |
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15:13.16 | BCMM_ | my rotation issue (state of the keyboard slide being ignored) resolved itself when i applied the fix for that bug where mydocs doesn't mount. i don't know why. |
15:17.33 | DocScrutinizer | probably some mandatory gconfkey that's stored by gconfd in ~user/MyDocs??? :-o |
15:18.23 | DocScrutinizer | weird |
15:19.14 | DocScrutinizer | maybe you could investigate further by lsof|grep mydocs or sth similar? |
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15:29.23 | DocScrutinizer | >:-( |
15:29.29 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# updatedb |
15:29.30 | DocScrutinizer | find: unrecognized: -fstype |
15:29.32 | DocScrutinizer | BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) multi-call binary |
15:30.04 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# which find |
15:30.06 | DocScrutinizer | /usr/bin/gnu/find |
15:30.11 | BCMM | DocScrutinizer: surely gconf is in .gconf? |
15:30.27 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, but that's not on MyDocs |
15:30.31 | DocScrutinizer | ? |
15:31.25 | DocScrutinizer | FSCK MESSYBOX!! |
15:44.33 | BCMM | DocScrutinizer: i ran in to that trying to make slocate work too. is there a workaround? |
15:44.48 | DocScrutinizer | find=`which find` updatedb |
15:44.57 | BCMM | as far as i could tell there wasn't a clean way of telling slocate which find to use |
15:45.07 | BCMM | oh, it takes a find env var? |
15:45.13 | BCMM | in lowercase??? |
15:45.19 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
15:45.39 | BCMM | well, that's pretty fscked |
15:46.11 | DocScrutinizer | # The names of the utilities to run to build the database. |
15:46.13 | DocScrutinizer | : ${find:=${BINDIR}/find} |
15:46.54 | BCMM | DocScrutinizer: that line will only work if the gnu dir comes first in the PATH i think |
15:47.09 | BCMM | surely better to make its location explicit? |
15:47.11 | DocScrutinizer | maybe you could use BINDIR=/usr/bin/gnu |
15:48.01 | DocScrutinizer | I've not tested if it will blow chunks with BINDIR |
15:49.09 | DocScrutinizer | time for 12648430 ☕ |
15:55.26 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess this updatedb script was better off using own binary's dir as BINDIR |
15:55.53 | DocScrutinizer | or at least as location of the right find binary |
15:56.22 | DocScrutinizer | after all both ubdatedb and find are in findutils pkg and installed to same dir |
15:57.16 | DocScrutinizer | err, or maybe not |
15:57.29 | BCMM_ | updatedb is a script on maemo? |
15:57.37 | BCMM_ | it's a binary on my gentoo box... |
15:57.53 | BCMM_ | also, updatedb is usually part of slocate not findutils |
15:58.52 | DocScrutinizer | part of locate here |
16:00.42 | DocScrutinizer | findutils-locate on my openSuse |
16:04.49 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# apt-cache depends locate |
16:04.50 | DocScrutinizer | locate |
16:04.52 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
16:04.53 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
16:04.55 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
16:04.56 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
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16:06.20 | DocScrutinizer | hmmm |
16:06.22 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# gfind --version |
16:06.24 | DocScrutinizer | find (GNU findutils) 4.4.2 |
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16:11.54 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# sed -i 's@{BINDIR}/find@{BINDIR}/gfind@' `which updatedb` |
16:11.55 | DocScrutinizer | done |
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16:33.28 | Pali | I have in .profile this: export BINDIR=/usr/bin/gnu |
16:33.43 | Pali | and it is enought to run updatedb |
16:34.22 | Pali | and I have configured alarmd to run updatedb |
16:35.00 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, but your solution seems to be better |
16:35.16 | Pali | can you update updatedb/locate package to extras? |
16:36.15 | DocScrutinizer | hardly, wouldn't know where to start |
16:36.35 | DocScrutinizer | also I'm not maintainer of that pkg |
16:37.48 | Pali | if that sed working fine, then it is correct solution |
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16:38.15 | Pali | + adding correct depends: in deb package |
16:38.54 | DocScrutinizer | depends is already there? |
16:38.57 | DocScrutinizer | sed works |
16:39.19 | Pali | so push new version of package to extras-devel |
16:39.25 | Pali | this error hould be fixed |
16:39.35 | Pali | *should |
16:39.49 | DocScrutinizer | wow, mkfs finished formatting a 300GB with ext4 |
16:40.34 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: I got no clue how to proceed, you're welcome to do (on my behalf ;-D) |
16:41.14 | DocScrutinizer | well, you shouldn't use `which find` in that sed cmd, for obvious reasons |
16:41.28 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, download dsc package from repo, unpack, apply patch, increase version in debian/changelog, create dsc package and push it :) |
16:41.28 | DocScrutinizer | ~jrtools |
16:41.28 | infobot | jrtools is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
16:51.07 | DocScrutinizer | hi javispedro |
16:51.13 | javispedro | hi |
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17:03.02 | DocScrutinizer | dang, this USB drive is even slower than N900 eMMC ;-P 6092226560 bytes (6.1 GB) copied, 298.002 s, 20.4 MB/s |
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17:08.26 | DocScrutinizer | 13012828160 bytes (13 GB) copied, 632.608 s, 20.6 MB/s \o/ |
17:08.53 | DocScrutinizer | another 7GB to go, and first 2/5 of my big easter backup are done |
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17:26.55 | merlin1991 | currently charges n900 with -testing and iwll deliberatly install broken version to investigate |
17:27.06 | merlin1991 | first I have to get grub back though |
17:27.13 | merlin1991 | can't even boot into my linux on this machine :D |
17:34.47 | DocScrutinizer | oufff |
17:36.03 | merlin1991 | I just need a proper live disk |
17:36.10 | merlin1991 | a lil chroot |
17:36.14 | merlin1991 | and I'm all good :) |
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17:44.22 | backtrackmobile | guys could someone of you compile me a source ? |
17:44.27 | backtrackmobile | i ve note the sdk |
17:44.29 | backtrackmobile | :( |
17:44.35 | merlin1991 | backtrackmobile: I'm going todo it in about 20 mins |
17:44.43 | merlin1991 | need to fix my damn linux first |
17:44.53 | backtrackmobile | eh merlin moveeee |
17:44.54 | backtrackmobile | :D |
17:46.05 | backtrackmobile | anyway merlin if you cant u dont have ;) |
17:46.20 | merlin1991 | I need to get the linux back anyway :D |
17:46.40 | backtrackmobile | i need it urgently becouse my phone is OFF |
17:46.54 | backtrackmobile | off becouse i'm creating a custom fw |
17:47.17 | backtrackmobile | aaaaa a question... |
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17:47.29 | backtrackmobile | is there a way to make a flashable emmc ? |
17:47.36 | backtrackmobile | i just made the rootfs |
17:47.50 | backtrackmobile | flashable but i want to flash the emmc too.. |
18:15.57 | backtrackmobile | can someone compile me a source code ? i have not the sdk.. |
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18:37.59 | DocScrutinizer | omg |
18:38.27 | DocScrutinizer | drive-by asker |
18:39.13 | DocScrutinizer | if he had left a link to the source, somebody already might have given it a try |
18:39.23 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
18:39.58 | freemangordon_ | guys, seems ke-recv is still causing problems, anyone taking care? sorry if it's been discussed already, i am not home and did',n't check the logs |
18:41.18 | freemangordon_ | merlin1991, Pali ? |
18:41.55 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-04-08 16:50:16] <backtrackmobile> 68kb |
18:41.56 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-04-08 16:50:37] <merlin1991> you could email it to me |
18:41.58 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-04-08 16:50:42] <backtrackmobile> ok |
18:42.28 | DocScrutinizer | freemangordon_: wazzeproblam |
18:42.53 | freemangordon_ | see at TMO, cssu-testing thread |
18:43.12 | freemangordon_ | ke-recv .deb still break mounting |
18:43.13 | DocScrutinizer | and what do we learn from that? *never* push a pkg that's not been properly tested |
18:43.40 | freemangordon_ | don't tell that to me |
18:43.56 | DocScrutinizer | and that's for sure not only fols who didn't realize fix instructions in merlin's post? |
18:44.07 | DocScrutinizer | fools |
18:44.11 | freemangordon_ | yes |
18:44.17 | DocScrutinizer | hmmm |
18:44.21 | DocScrutinizer | fone :-S |
18:44.25 | DocScrutinizer | fine* |
18:44.35 | DocScrutinizer | dang shit brimstone |
18:44.40 | merlin1991 | freemangordon_: I'm checking as soon as I've got limnux back |
18:44.48 | merlin1991 | freemangordon_: I'm checking as soon as I've got linux back |
18:44.59 | freemangordon_ | check the thread please, i am traveling right now and can do nothing :-( |
18:45.04 | merlin1991 | and also grub his here by now :) |
18:45.16 | merlin1991 | Kubuntu booted omfg |
18:46.21 | merlin1991 | Seems that the uuid survived the dd wtf |
18:50.07 | merlin1991 | I'm back in business, yay |
18:50.56 | merlin1991 | step one, queue awesome music, step2 build some stuff, step3 brick my own -testing in order to provide foolproof recovery instructions |
18:51.13 | freemangordon_ | :-) |
18:54.42 | merlin1991 | ah wait need to reboot and plug in my hdd with the source first :D |
18:54.55 | merlin1991 | damn motherboard only has 4 sata pins but I've got 4 hdds + dvd |
19:06.39 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I always forget how to export some env so it stays |
19:06.47 | merlin1991 | so how do I do that again? :D |
19:07.09 | merlin1991 | feels so dumb asking that |
19:08.06 | merlin1991 | ah yeah .bashrc |
19:11.06 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: sorry, been afk |
19:11.16 | merlin1991 | np :) |
19:12.39 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: could you rephrase your question? |
19:13.08 | DocScrutinizer | export env? export <env>; Or what? |
19:13.09 | merlin1991 | I answered it myself, I was wondering if there is a way to export env variables in a way that they stay |
19:13.23 | merlin1991 | s/stay/stay persistant/ |
19:13.48 | DocScrutinizer | aah, you need to set them in some script that gets executed by your shell or a parent of that shell |
19:15.51 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# export t1=TeeOne |
19:15.52 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# t2=TeeTwo |
19:15.54 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# bash |
19:15.55 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# echo $t1 " " $t2 |
19:15.57 | DocScrutinizer | TeeOne |
19:15.59 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# |
19:16.58 | DocScrutinizer | su though creates a login shell, that doesn't inherit from the "calling shell" |
19:17.14 | DocScrutinizer | su - to be precise |
19:18.25 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# su |
19:18.26 | DocScrutinizer | BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) built-in shell (ash) |
19:18.28 | DocScrutinizer | Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. |
19:18.29 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# echo $t1 |
19:18.31 | DocScrutinizer | TeeOne |
19:18.32 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# su - |
19:18.34 | DocScrutinizer | BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) built-in shell (ash) |
19:18.35 | DocScrutinizer | Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. |
19:18.37 | DocScrutinizer | ~ # echo $1 |
19:18.38 | DocScrutinizer | ~ # |
19:18.38 | infobot | somebody said # was pound, or hash, or sometimes the number sign. a tic-tac-toe board, or octothorpe |
19:19.57 | merlin1991 | btw what the drive by irc user wanted was a compieled camera-ui with some translations fixed |
19:20.10 | merlin1991 | there are 3 strings that are not translated at all |
19:20.19 | DocScrutinizer | actually "executed" is incorrect, the script needs to get sourced |
19:22.06 | merlin1991 | hm -testing device is still charging |
19:22.46 | merlin1991 | and since it was dry I don't want to abort before booting |
19:26.16 | merlin1991 | hm sata should be hotplug, right? |
19:29.15 | DocScrutinizer | ouch, don't test that! |
19:30.15 | ShadowJK | only true esata is hotplug |
19:30.48 | DocScrutinizer | emphasis on "true" |
19:31.03 | DocScrutinizer | sata never been specified for hotplugging |
19:31.30 | merlin1991 | hehe I meant that more as a joke :D |
19:31.37 | DocScrutinizer | yay |
19:31.38 | merlin1991 | I know not to test that :D |
19:33.06 | merlin1991 | hm I need to read the specs but afaik there should be hotplug support |
19:33.56 | DocScrutinizer | wonders HTF apt-get -install -reinstall ke-recv can fail to create a file /etc/init.d/ke-recv .oO(?!@##&%$>8-o&&³¬¼) |
19:34.12 | merlin1991 | you need to add some special chars there at the end ;) |
19:34.56 | DocScrutinizer | I bet some funny users thought apt-get is a perfect cmd to run under user |
19:35.17 | merlin1991 | it cries for root |
19:35.46 | merlin1991 | just like my clutch |
19:35.49 | merlin1991 | need to get my car fixed |
19:36.14 | DocScrutinizer | aptgetinstallminusreinstallenter - doesn't work for me!!1!1!!! |
19:36.51 | DocScrutinizer | heard that in RL (well sth like that) |
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19:38.08 | merlin1991 | hm ke-recv is 755 in the .deb |
19:38.19 | merlin1991 | I wonder why people had to chmod +x |
19:38.37 | DocScrutinizer | aptminusgetspaceinstallspaceminusreinstallspacekeminusrecventer - neither |
19:39.08 | DocScrutinizer | becuase they copied it from dunnowhere MyDocs/foo/bar where they extracted it |
19:39.27 | merlin1991 | why in gods name would they extract it |
19:39.28 | DocScrutinizer | since: |
19:39.30 | DocScrutinizer | becuase they copied it from dunnowhere MyDocs/foo/bar where they extracted it |
19:39.33 | DocScrutinizer | aptminusgetspaceinstallspaceminusreinstallspacekeminusrecventer - neither |
19:39.50 | DocScrutinizer | aka "missing root" |
19:39.55 | merlin1991 | always forgets which bit is which |
19:39.58 | merlin1991 | in filemodes |
19:40.15 | _ade_ | merlin1991: what do I have to do to get the clock replacement in the CSSU git? |
19:40.22 | merlin1991 | oh hey there |
19:40.34 | _ade_ | hey |
19:40.35 | merlin1991 | well show up here is step #1, check ;) |
19:41.03 | merlin1991 | secondly you have to convince us that it's a complete replacement of the stock widget and is mostly bug free |
19:41.58 | _ade_ | hmmm, what are the conditions for that..? |
19:42.20 | merlin1991 | complete replacement aka can do everything you could do in the stock widget |
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19:42.40 | merlin1991 | backtrackmobile: you've got mail ;) |
19:42.40 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I suggest to publish a hotfix script, that does everything incl "root" and "mount|grep MyDocs||rm -rf ~user/MyDocs/*" |
19:42.52 | backtrackmobile | weee merlino yes i opened it now |
19:43.01 | backtrackmobile | i was patching the nolo :D |
19:43.07 | backtrackmobile | and... i did ittttttt ahhahaahahhaahha |
19:43.51 | backtrackmobile | i changed the nokia splash with a skull, the usb in green 3d usb icon, anc the Devel icon with a BUG icon :D |
19:43.53 | merlin1991 | damn one thing fremantle lacks over harm, battery charged indicator in act_dead |
19:44.15 | merlin1991 | backtrackmobile: document what you did and post it somewhere |
19:44.24 | merlin1991 | I'm sure a lot of people are interested in that |
19:44.37 | DocScrutinizer | EH? |
19:44.46 | backtrackmobile | here is the link :D http://forums.internettablettalk.com/showthread.php?t=75504 |
19:44.50 | backtrackmobile | easy to do :D |
19:45.07 | _ade_ | merlin1991: it does not include the worldmap, but it does offer seconds in the display. I have not seen a bug reports are |
19:45.09 | DocScrutinizer | my device sure as hell has a green light indicating battery_charged, in ACT_DEAD |
19:45.11 | backtrackmobile | if u want i'll upload my custom nolo file after now i try the camera |
19:45.27 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: % of charge |
19:45.32 | _ade_ | * bug report lately (hit enter too soon) |
19:45.43 | DocScrutinizer | bwahahaha, act_dead with screen |
19:45.43 | merlin1991 | thus "battery chargeD" |
19:46.03 | merlin1991 | yeah :D |
19:46.10 | merlin1991 | only thing oled is > lcd |
19:46.39 | DocScrutinizer | you could write a very nifty proggi for LED engine, that flashes indicator LED 7 times for 70% |
19:46.48 | DocScrutinizer | nah, you can't. I could |
19:46.53 | ShadowJK | bme doesn't even tell you % during charge, until it's full |
19:46.55 | merlin1991 | come on :D |
19:47.59 | backtrackmobile | merlin i'll send all via mail ok ? stay tuned first i fix the camera ;) |
19:48.05 | backtrackmobile | thx 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
19:48.22 | DocScrutinizer | NB I meant a engine proggi that auto-determines how many flashes needed, depending on battery voltage |
19:49.31 | ShadowJK | was considering making a 75% marker and a 90% one |
19:50.01 | DocScrutinizer | obviously you're missing the "NDA"d datasheet of LP5523 with all the nifty commands that aren't documented in mce.ini nor in driver |
19:50.45 | merlin1991 | obviously :) |
19:50.56 | backtrackmobile | waaaaaaa camera translatedddd uuuuuuuu |
19:50.57 | DocScrutinizer | makes me ponder now CSSU is the right platform finally for me to push a better lp5523.ko |
19:51.06 | backtrackmobile | works works works works works:D |
19:51.38 | DocScrutinizer | send a carton prosecco! |
19:51.46 | backtrackmobile | hahahahahahahahahahaha |
19:52.04 | backtrackmobile | echo "prosecco" |
19:52.06 | backtrackmobile | :D |
19:53.07 | merlin1991 | wonders how much longer the n900 will take to reach fully charged state |
19:53.14 | DocScrutinizer | (5523) and duh, finally fix the friggin mce so it will work with better lp5523 driver |
19:53.44 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: it already has, the rest is marginal fake |
19:54.34 | DocScrutinizer | after 60min the battery is at 60% or a bit more |
19:54.55 | DocScrutinizer | after 2h it is at 95% |
19:55.12 | merlin1991 | now if I'd know when I started charging :D |
19:55.25 | DocScrutinizer | get bq27k-detail |
19:55.46 | DocScrutinizer | or simply do lshal|grep battery.voltage |
19:56.01 | merlin1991 | we're still in act_dead ;) |
19:56.10 | DocScrutinizer | meh |
19:56.27 | DocScrutinizer | why? |
19:56.41 | merlin1991 | because so far I only plugged in the charger |
19:56.51 | DocScrutinizer | so boot it!!! |
19:58.01 | freemangordon_ | :nod: |
19:59.10 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: which temporary madness made you thank a post that suggested running apt-get upgrade? |
19:59.22 | DocScrutinizer | errr |
19:59.26 | DocScrutinizer | oooops |
20:01.51 | DocScrutinizer | was in a thanks-rush for everything that didn'tlook like useless shit |
20:02.17 | DocScrutinizer | feedback with actual info always welcome |
20:02.39 | DocScrutinizer | not so though if it has harmful suggestions |
20:02.55 | merlin1991 | currently install broken ke-recv |
20:03.14 | DocScrutinizer | i.e 3.0 ? |
20:03.18 | merlin1991 | yep |
20:03.25 | merlin1991 | or rather ke-recv something-14 |
20:03.32 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
20:03.35 | merlin1991 | since 3.0 brings a few legits debs aswell |
20:04.57 | DocScrutinizer | waves and hopes for some better luck with dinner today |
20:05.13 | merlin1991 | was yesterday that bad? |
20:16.00 | DocScrutinizer | yesterday was a complete fail |
20:16.25 | DocScrutinizer | regarding food |
20:18.03 | merlin1991 | reboot #3 |
20:18.12 | merlin1991 | so far all previous "fix" things worked out |
20:18.40 | DocScrutinizer | don't forget to create proper backupmenu imgs |
20:18.49 | merlin1991 | hehe never used backupmenu so far |
20:19.00 | DocScrutinizer | WUT? |
20:19.28 | merlin1991 | there is nothing on my n900 which isn't safed somewhere else |
20:19.44 | DocScrutinizer | except the complete setup |
20:20.14 | merlin1991 | even for that I have script that gets me from reflashed n900 -> current state |
20:20.22 | DocScrutinizer | wow |
20:20.33 | DocScrutinizer | almost as good as backupmenu ;-P |
20:21.04 | merlin1991 | and there is the fact that -stable is stable and the -testing device is for testing only anyway :D |
20:21.51 | DocScrutinizer | well, for mainenance purposes it's friggin mad useful to rollback to any arbitrary previous state, to test sth |
20:22.25 | merlin1991 | usually when I test stuff it's a flash -> add cssu -> test what I want to test |
20:22.33 | DocScrutinizer | it effectively feels like you got dozens of devices |
20:22.36 | merlin1991 | but I guess backupmenu would be faster for that |
20:22.52 | merlin1991 | I would need a proper uSD for that though :) |
20:22.59 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
20:23.04 | DocScrutinizer | helps a lot |
20:23.15 | DocScrutinizer | though 32GB eMMC are a lot as well |
20:24.03 | merlin1991 | I love the fact, that dsmetool -b keeps the system in a state where it remembers sim code |
20:24.26 | DocScrutinizer | ponders to do some further tests with images of CAL and kernel, in backupmenu context |
20:25.01 | merlin1991 | so what kind of food is on your radar today? |
20:25.13 | DocScrutinizer | Burger King |
20:25.14 | merlin1991 | (watching an n900 boot for the 5th time is boring xD) |
20:25.25 | DocScrutinizer | double chilli cheese ;-) |
20:25.48 | merlin1991 | hehe one of my prepare to go drinking meals |
20:26.19 | DocScrutinizer | booze cancelled for today, my pimp doesn't pay |
20:26.39 | DocScrutinizer | >:-( |
20:26.50 | merlin1991 | :/ |
20:27.34 | merlin1991 | hm how to cill a timed out ssh session again? |
20:27.40 | merlin1991 | s/cill/kill/ |
20:27.46 | DocScrutinizer | forget about it |
20:28.03 | DocScrutinizer | it dies by itself eventually (30min..1h) |
20:28.07 | merlin1991 | hehe |
20:28.14 | merlin1991 | nah I mean on the client side |
20:28.22 | DocScrutinizer | ~. |
20:28.22 | infobot | methinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for. |
20:28.42 | DocScrutinizer | infobot: yes, it is! |
20:28.42 | infobot | So we want to be stupid, right, is! ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop! |
20:28.59 | merlin1991 | hehe infobot ftw |
20:29.24 | DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack |
20:29.24 | infobot | thanks, DocScrutinizer |
20:32.16 | merlin1991 | currently checking the last possiblity |
20:32.22 | merlin1991 | but I think tmo users are just plain stupid |
20:32.38 | merlin1991 | though not all of them, but a majority :D |
20:38.44 | merlin1991 | damn I need the ascii chars for TM |
20:39.59 | DocScrutinizer | ™ |
20:40.42 | merlin1991 | wonders where on the Cp-15whatever codepage that lies |
20:40.52 | DocScrutinizer | nfc |
20:41.40 | DocScrutinizer | 0000000 102342 161242 121204 102342 161242 121204 102342 161242 |
20:41.47 | DocScrutinizer | od |
20:41.59 | merlin1991 | anyway http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1189843#post1189843 |
20:42.08 | merlin1991 | my result afer about 15 reboots :D |
20:42.46 | DocScrutinizer | 0000000 84e2 e2a2 a284 84e2 e2a2 a284 84e2 e2a2 od -x |
20:46.22 | DocScrutinizer | 84e2a2 |
20:46.26 | DocScrutinizer | it seems |
20:46.42 | DocScrutinizer | err |
20:46.51 | DocScrutinizer | e284a2 |
20:56.32 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: echo -e '\xe2\x84\xa2' |
20:57.04 | DocScrutinizer | == ™ |
20:57.11 | merlin1991 | thanks |
21:00.58 | merlin1991 | ffs, forgot to test keymap when I was @ ke-recv 3.19-14 |
21:01.03 | merlin1991 | downgrades again |
21:01.37 | merlin1991 | (we have a bug claiming that keymaps don't work and I have to make sure broken ke-recv is the cause of that) |
21:12.30 | DocScrutinizer | wtf is ℡ |
21:12.45 | DocScrutinizer | aka echo -e '\xe2\x84\xa1' |
21:13.11 | merlin1991 | no idea :D |
21:13.57 | DocScrutinizer | ~xyawn |
21:13.57 | infobot | somebody said xyawn was coffee |
21:14.01 | merlin1991 | missing sym keymap also is an issue with ke-recv, though no idea HOW this is related |
21:14.28 | merlin1991 | 3 bugs closed as duplicate :) |
21:14.35 | DocScrutinizer | same with the confirmed portrait while kbd slide out |
21:15.10 | DocScrutinizer | nfc how it's related to ke-recv and missing MyDocs |
21:15.17 | merlin1991 | yeah |
21:15.50 | merlin1991 | well maybe some other deamon depeneds on ke-recv and thus does not launch? |
21:15.58 | DocScrutinizer | I guess there must be more to this ke-recv bug than just MyDocs missing |
21:15.59 | merlin1991 | anyway, did you update to 3.1? |
21:16.20 | DocScrutinizer | NAH! you're kidding |
21:16.26 | merlin1991 | 3.1 is stable :D |
21:16.32 | DocScrutinizer | BWAHAHAHA |
21:16.35 | merlin1991 | all bugs reported with 3.0 are fixed with 3.1 :D |
21:16.37 | DocScrutinizer | tell me in a week |
21:17.11 | merlin1991 | so you'll wait a week and then decied enough guinea pigs have tried before you? :D |
21:25.50 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
21:28.27 | DocScrutinizer | after all that's my supposed_to_work daily phone |
21:28.42 | merlin1991 | hehe |
21:29.02 | merlin1991 | my supposed_to_work phone is a n9 :$ |
21:39.47 | DocScrutinizer | *burp* |
21:41.00 | merlin1991 | hey it works great as a phone, I still carry a n900 for other tasks though |
21:44.10 | DocScrutinizer | why can't 3.1 preinst remove the friggin symlink? |
21:45.00 | DocScrutinizer | and why has this symlink to get removed manually anyway, while dpkg/whatever should overwrite it? |
21:45.46 | DocScrutinizer | or is it that ke-recv update doesn't even ship that file? |
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22:09.30 | merlin1991 | it ships it |
22:09.43 | merlin1991 | I'm currently investigating as to WHY it doesn't overwrite the symlink |
22:10.05 | merlin1991 | thoug we could add a simple if symlink rm to the ke-recv preinst |
22:15.10 | gregoa | merlin1991: there's nothing to investigate, that's dpkg's behaviour by design. - and I agree that the preinst should test for the version and the symlink and remove it |
22:15.34 | merlin1991 | gregoa: so dpkg ignores symlinks by design? |
22:15.50 | merlin1991 | even if they were part of the previous version of the package |
22:15.56 | gregoa | merlin1991: no, it doesn't replace a symlink with a file or dir |
22:17.23 | DocScrutinizer | (<merlin1991> thoug we could add a simple if symlink rm to the ke-recv preinst) exactly what I said before :-) |
22:17.44 | merlin1991 | true :) |
22:18.30 | DocScrutinizer | gregoa: thanks for shedding some light on this |
22:19.09 | DocScrutinizer | though it feels terribly odd behaviour for an installer |
22:19.12 | merlin1991 | hm just came across a bunch of bugreports regarding dpkg and symlinks, seems the handling of symlinks in dpkg is weird in genreal |
22:19.19 | merlin1991 | s/genreal/general/ |
22:20.56 | merlin1991 | hm busybox syntax for checking symlinks |
22:21.48 | merlin1991 | I really should bookmark some bash man since I keep forgeting the syntax |
22:22.20 | gregoa | yup, there probably were good reasons, but it leads to some headscratching |
22:25.38 | gregoa | merlin1991: grep \\-L /var/lib/dpkg/info/*inst on any debian/ubuntu machines should give you some examples :) |
22:27.44 | gregoa | merlin1991: http://paste.debian.net/162575/ <- vlc.preinst |
22:28.40 | merlin1991 | thanks |
22:29.16 | gregoa | np |
22:49.31 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, conffile |
22:49.53 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, it's in debian/conffiles |
22:50.42 | DocScrutinizer | I wonder how that's a conffile though. How did it manage to become one? |
22:50.51 | gregoa | DocScrutinizer: it's in /etc |
22:50.58 | DocScrutinizer | OMG |
22:51.23 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, what he said |
22:51.34 | DocScrutinizer | indeed I'd prefer to see this shellscript in /usr/lib/ke-recv or sth |
22:51.44 | MohammadAG | almost killed myself testing led-event-notifier |
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22:52.12 | MohammadAG | debian/rules could be fixed I suppose |
22:52.14 | DocScrutinizer | SEE????!! the reason it's considered dangerous and forbidden by aegis! X-P |
22:52.14 | MohammadAG | to ignore the file |
22:55.34 | int_ua | looks like I've found a bug in camera-ui in T3.1, anyone here who can try reproduce it? |
22:55.48 | merlin1991 | plenty, shoot |
22:55.54 | DocScrutinizer | scratch my note about moving init.d/ke-recv, it's a perfect initfile |
22:56.54 | DocScrutinizer | another note goes to debian/rules WTF they think are the files in etc/init.d/ |
22:57.06 | DocScrutinizer | CONFIG files?? |
22:58.06 | int_ua | 1. Record small video (2-3 seconds in my case) 2. Push play button in the preview. 3. Close Media Player an return to camera-ui. 4. Press delete button. |
22:58.07 | merlin1991 | int_ua: what's the bug now? |
22:58.10 | merlin1991 | sry :D |
22:58.36 | int_ua | after this camera-ui stays black until I touch the screen |
22:59.35 | DocScrutinizer | sure you want to keep a copy of old file under /etc/init.d/foobar.dpkold, or even install the new file under /etc/init.d/foobar.dpknew, but only when user changed the old file |
23:00.01 | merlin1991 | int_ua: can not reproduce |
23:00.28 | merlin1991 | when I close the media player and select the camera-ui in the taskswitcher it takes a split second and then I see the livefeed again |
23:00.59 | int_ua | merlin1991: did you deleted this video in the camera-ui? |
23:01.12 | int_ua | s/did/have/ |
23:01.15 | merlin1991 | arf |
23:01.23 | merlin1991 | headdesk |
23:01.28 | merlin1991 | bloody word wrap |
23:01.50 | merlin1991 | trying again :9 |
23:02.25 | DocScrutinizer | I think I can confirm |
23:02.34 | DocScrutinizer | seem to remember same thing |
23:03.01 | merlin1991 | hm seems to be related to the settings for preview |
23:03.22 | merlin1991 | I don't even get that chance to delte it because camera-ui is already back to the life feed not showing me the preview page anymore |
23:03.51 | DocScrutinizer | well, that's what it is supposed to do |
23:04.07 | merlin1991 | I've adjusted the preview settings for don't time out |
23:04.13 | merlin1991 | no I'll see what happens |
23:04.14 | MohammadAG | sigh, if only somebody could implement stacked process windows in hildon-desktop |
23:04.32 | merlin1991 | int_ua: yes you're right |
23:04.35 | DocScrutinizer | meh |
23:04.37 | merlin1991 | I'll forward this to nicolai |
23:04.54 | MohammadAG | if the mediaplayer opens from within camera-ui only for a preview, then pressing the back button should bring you back to camera-ui |
23:04.56 | int_ua | ok, thanks :) Now I can sleep :) |
23:05.02 | MohammadAG | Harmattan and Android work that way |
23:05.04 | MohammadAG | lol |
23:05.12 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: obviously |
23:05.32 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, pressing back makes the mediaplayer visible with an X button |
23:05.45 | MohammadAG | it should be a <- button that brings you back to camera-ui |
23:05.59 | DocScrutinizer | a major PITA and UI designer brainfuck when they missed such stacking thing in fremantle |
23:06.00 | MohammadAG | oh and WP7 does it too |
23:06.14 | merlin1991 | int_ua: it's actually also valid if you take a photo |
23:06.15 | MohammadAG | it can be implemented |
23:06.18 | MohammadAG | stacking is there |
23:06.28 | merlin1991 | back out of camera-ui somehow |
23:06.32 | merlin1991 | come back and delte it |
23:06.44 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
23:06.57 | DocScrutinizer | I'fe encountered it with photo |
23:07.02 | DocScrutinizer | I've |
23:07.43 | merlin1991 | I'll give nicolai a proper report an suppose the fix will be in next testing |
23:08.21 | merlin1991 | and I'll do that after I've slept or it will be like me last lines here on irc, which would not yield in him unterstanding what I'm writing xD |
23:08.36 | merlin1991 | s/him understanding/him not understanding/ |
23:08.48 | DocScrutinizer | actually I've seen occasional segfaults of cam as well (though can't recall on what action). That's why I'm not that happy with nicocam in CSSU |
23:09.13 | merlin1991 | segfaults --> DUMPS PLEASE :D |
23:09.44 | DocScrutinizer | provide one-click dumphandler install |
23:09.51 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
23:10.07 | DocScrutinizer | or wait, maybe I already got it? |
23:10.08 | merlin1991 | gimme a few mins, I'm sure I can get together an .install file |
23:10.19 | merlin1991 | though have fun with ham then ,) |
23:10.32 | DocScrutinizer | nah, a cmdline to c&p is just fine |
23:12.13 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# apt-cache policy sp-rich-core |
23:12.14 | DocScrutinizer | sp-rich-core: |
23:12.16 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
23:12.17 | merlin1991 | you need the fremantle tools repo and sp-rich-core |
23:12.47 | merlin1991 | dumps should be in /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps/ |
23:13.07 | int_ua | or on the uSD ;) |
23:13.24 | merlin1991 | yeah or anywhere on /media/mmc*/core-dumps/ |
23:14.01 | int_ua | BTW, I've sent some dumps with this GUI that notifies |
23:14.10 | int_ua | are they anyhow useful? |
23:14.14 | DocScrutinizer | no coredump of camera |
23:14.45 | DocScrutinizer | but: /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps/reboot-32wd_to-1102-0-0.rcore.lzo X-P |
23:14.55 | int_ua | I mean Settings - Crash Reporter |
23:15.28 | int_ua | DocScrutinizer: I've got this every third reboot |
23:15.30 | merlin1991 | int_ua: I'm not really sure I understand what you tried to say |
23:15.51 | int_ua | approximately every third |
23:17.18 | int_ua | merlin1991: I've enabled Settings - Crash Reporter - Upload crash reports |
23:17.29 | int_ua | and everything else there |
23:17.37 | merlin1991 | nfc where those go |
23:17.40 | merlin1991 | defenitely not to us :D |
23:18.07 | int_ua | and now I have a notification on every new report |
23:18.14 | MohammadAG | probably /dev/null on some server |
23:18.20 | int_ua | ... |
23:18.25 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# cat /var/lib/dsme/rich-cores/reboot-32wd_to |
23:18.27 | DocScrutinizer | 4 |
23:18.37 | int_ua | wait, there was a server name somewhere |
23:19.12 | DocScrutinizer | XP |
23:19.15 | DocScrutinizer | LOL |
23:20.06 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: nope, server null.dev |
23:20.20 | DocScrutinizer | it's a virtual server of the internet |
23:20.32 | int_ua | =D |
23:21.35 | DocScrutinizer | the .dev TLD is very little known publicly, but mad useful ;-) |
23:24.01 | DocScrutinizer | they invented it when that guy snatched away the dont-answer.com domain |
23:25.03 | int_ua | this http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5/crash-reporter obviously needs more info |
23:25.59 | int_ua | But I've seen the server name somewhere. IIRC it had 5 letters. Maybe starting with N |
23:27.00 | gregoa | n-o-k-i-a? |
23:27.53 | int_ua | XD |
23:28.54 | MohammadAG | nil.us |
23:29.01 | int_ua | got it! |
23:29.27 | int_ua | Receiving server: https://stage.maemo.org/nitro/ |
23:30.59 | int_ua | MohammadAG: Why nil.us? :) I didn't get it, was it a joke too? :) |
23:31.08 | MohammadAG | yeah |
23:31.20 | MohammadAG | nitro? |
23:31.21 | merlin1991 | int_ua: I think sanity went over board around /dev/null |
23:32.16 | int_ua | yeah, what is it? who controls it? |
23:32.24 | DocScrutinizer | nitro beats it hands down |
23:32.44 | MohammadAG | OT: http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2012/2/24/d3c3a992-cfe1-4e58-b7cc-2c5e34334c57.jpg |
23:33.08 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by ChanServ -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 |
23:35.38 | merlin1991 | hm how can I tell chanserv to set the topic :D |
23:36.13 | DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/man_pages/1227619139/ <-nitro |
23:36.22 | int_ua | there is a nice young lady ready to nil you at nil.us :D |
23:36.26 | DocScrutinizer | >>Copyright (C) 2007-2008 Nokia Corporation.<< |
23:36.55 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: /msg chanserv help |
23:37.12 | DocScrutinizer | though it's kinda deprecated |
23:37.37 | merlin1991 | ah it knows a topic command |
23:38.03 | MohammadAG | Yeah, /CS topic #maemo-ssu sth |
23:38.16 | DocScrutinizer | depecated for a number of reasons |
23:38.25 | MohammadAG | Note that it replaces, rather than appending |
23:38.30 | DocScrutinizer | a) you dunno who has set the topic |
23:38.36 | int_ua | cat: /home/user/nitro.conf: No such file or directory |
23:38.39 | DocScrutinizer | b) max topic length |
23:38.53 | MohammadAG | a is the reason I use it really |
23:39.06 | MohammadAG | For such a channel, setting such a topic doesn't really matter |
23:39.08 | DocScrutinizer | btw WTF?! http://maemo.org/development/documentation/man_pages |
23:39.10 | merlin1991 | sneaky bastard :D |
23:39.20 | MohammadAG | Unless it's a meeting or sth |
23:40.24 | DocScrutinizer | MEH |
23:40.51 | DocScrutinizer | my topic history showing "changed by: chanserv" >:-( |
23:41.16 | int_ua | cat: /usr/share/nitro-settings/nitro.conf: No such file or directory |
23:41.29 | MohammadAG | Which is the only point of using it |
23:41.39 | DocScrutinizer | BS |
23:42.17 | int_ua | cat /usr/share/crash-reporter-settings/crash-reporter.conf |
23:43.45 | int_ua | so we can (?) easily (?) change the server address for some server, available to CSSU developers |
23:44.07 | DocScrutinizer | why not, if you know the format of that protocol |
23:44.17 | MohammadAG | It's open source afaik |
23:44.27 | DocScrutinizer | and you know the privacy measures needed |
23:44.37 | merlin1991 | feels like setting up a reciver on his sirver |
23:44.41 | merlin1991 | sirver, lol |
23:45.09 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I guess, kill ip, extract dump, strip personal data, stash away? |
23:45.09 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: which one? ftp? http? foobar? |
23:45.21 | int_ua | I can be the first to send you my reproducible dbus-scripts crash reports :) |
23:45.51 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: whatever that crash-reporter talks |
23:46.03 | DocScrutinizer | yeah! and what is it ? |
23:46.12 | merlin1991 | time to find out :) |
23:46.21 | DocScrutinizer | :shrug: |
23:46.32 | int_ua | DocScrutinizer: I think it's sending these .lzo archives |
23:46.56 | MohammadAG | echos that it might be open source |
23:47.03 | DocScrutinizer | doesn't matter. HOW does it send them? per mail? per ftp-upload? |
23:47.08 | int_ua | but there is a description field also |
23:47.24 | MohammadAG | probably HTTP POST, but check the source |
23:47.51 | DocScrutinizer | and esp what you're going to do with all those pretty coredumps without any proper context and error description? |
23:48.15 | DocScrutinizer | most of them for pkg acme-foo |
23:48.21 | DocScrutinizer | and siblings |
23:49.14 | int_ua | send them to the maintainer email directly XD |
23:49.21 | DocScrutinizer | I really guess we have better targets for spare manpower in CSSU :-D |
23:49.27 | MohammadAG | Would rather rewrite a similar darmon that checks if the crash reports are part of cssu |
23:49.50 | merlin1991 | well MohammadAG we can simply compare against a list serverside and dump anthing non cssu |
23:49.58 | int_ua | MohammadAG: +1 |
23:50.13 | DocScrutinizer | friggin fancywork |
23:50.27 | MohammadAG | Not really, it's just an inotify app |
23:50.30 | DocScrutinizer | to gather useless coredumps |
23:50.48 | MohammadAG | Monitors a list of folders for new core dumps |
23:51.10 | DocScrutinizer | and that help exactly how, and on what? |
23:51.24 | merlin1991 | waste my time |
23:51.28 | merlin1991 | distract me from work and school |
23:51.33 | merlin1991 | sounds like a great deal |
23:51.54 | DocScrutinizer | I fail to see who's interested in the result of all that work (btw probably the reason why the original nitro evidently is orphaned) |
23:52.51 | int_ua | Well, in ideal world it would help reveal some problems more easily for both user and developer (there is a description field, where good user can describe all the details) |
23:53.14 | DocScrutinizer | before investing significant amount of work into it, I'd by all means talk to those who've seen the original getting implemented and fail |
23:53.19 | int_ua | DocScrutinizer: Is it orphaned? |
23:53.34 | DocScrutinizer | evidently |
23:53.59 | DocScrutinizer | or why do you think we didn't hear of any automatic coredumps sent and forwarded to us? |
23:54.19 | DocScrutinizer | see (C) of manpage |
23:54.58 | int_ua | well, the idea to talk to original authors is a very good one |
23:55.16 | ShadowJK | iirc at one point someone said you could get them if you asked |
23:55.17 | DocScrutinizer | an app ported from maemo2 to 3 to 4 to 5, just like e.g. USB-host app. Useless and obsolete |
23:56.00 | int_ua | but at the moment I have to leave. See you all tomorrow :) |
23:56.32 | DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: that's ago how long? |
23:56.36 | ShadowJK | "Note that one can also have a "private" crash uploading server. |
23:56.37 | ShadowJK | Just provide a suitable (trivial) settings package for crash |
23:56.37 | ShadowJK | reporter which tells where to upload the cores" |
23:57.17 | ShadowJK | (Eero Tamminen on maemo-developers, 2010.10.13, "Re: Crash Reporting") |
23:57.38 | DocScrutinizer | wow, only err 2.5 years ago |
23:57.53 | DocScrutinizer | I'd have thought must be at least 4 |
23:58.35 | DocScrutinizer | oops, 1.5 years? |
23:58.46 | DocScrutinizer | time for a break now, definitely |
23:59.07 | ShadowJK | "The crash information wouldn't usually be that useful for the 3rd party developers because their packages create rarely debug package needed for getting backtraces (Maemo infra doesn't create those automatically as it's Debian derived." |
23:59.28 | DocScrutinizer | let's see if the 28th attempt for a break and getting dinner will pan out |
23:59.40 | merlin1991 | wtf |
23:59.47 | merlin1991 | I thought you came back with your chilli cheese :D |