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07:01.41 | Lava_Croft | hooray, work on tracker |
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10:08.20 | Pali | when will be new version of CSSU T? |
10:08.47 | Pali | with patched ke-recv? |
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10:46.06 | Pali | merlin1991, ^^^ |
11:03.22 | DocScrutinizer | dudes, I have a syslog for you. from when I did a call, inbound. FRIGGIN TRUCKLOAD OF MESS! |
11:03.36 | DocScrutinizer | we should tackle that |
11:04.41 | DocScrutinizer | also the annoying loglines like >> |
11:04.45 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 7 12:23:55 IroN900 cellular: csd/libsms[792]: ISI_SMS .937683> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
11:04.47 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 7 12:23:55 IroN900 cellular: csd/libsms[792]: ISI_SMS .938934> set_timeout(): Timeout 1200 s event type:-1 |
11:04.48 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 7 12:24:08 IroN900 cellular: csd/libsms[792]: ISI_SMS .854400> incoming_cell_broadcast(): Incoming cell broadcast |
11:05.19 | DocScrutinizer | and >> |
11:05.22 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 7 10:23:20 IroN900 cellular: csd/libsms[792]: ISI_SMS .492645> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 |
11:05.23 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 7 10:23:20 IroN900 cellular: csd/libsms[792]: ISI_SMS .493896> set_timeout(): Timeout 1235 s event type:-1 |
11:05.28 | DocScrutinizer | oops |
11:06.40 | DocScrutinizer | like >> |
11:06.43 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 6 19:25:06 IroN900 wlancond[1616]: High signal |
11:06.45 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 6 19:25:06 IroN900 kernel: [107646.301696] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending HIGHSIGNAL |
11:06.46 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 6 19:25:46 IroN900 wlancond[1616]: Low signal |
11:06.48 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 6 19:25:46 IroN900 kernel: [107686.238952] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending LOWSIGNAL |
11:07.32 | DocScrutinizer | I know I could log those lines to /dev/null, when my syslog.conf was correct |
11:07.56 | DocScrutinizer | but I'd prefer to nuke tose spam logs out of kernel/$whatever |
11:11.06 | DocScrutinizer | . |
11:11.11 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# grep "wlan0: roaming signal" /var/log/syslog|wc -l |
11:11.12 | DocScrutinizer | 2664 |
11:11.14 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# grep "cellular: csd/libsms" /var/log/syslog|wc -l |
11:11.15 | DocScrutinizer | 15469 |
11:11.17 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# wc -l /var/log/syslog |
11:11.18 | DocScrutinizer | 57125 /var/log/syslog |
11:11.47 | DocScrutinizer | :-/ |
11:12.18 | DocScrutinizer | almost 30% are friggin "cellular: csd/libsms" lines |
11:13.12 | DocScrutinizer | actually the "wlan0: roaming signal" are * 2, so another 10% |
11:14.43 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not entirely clear yet about "GLIB DEBUG default" |
11:15.26 | DocScrutinizer | maybe I should adapt my loglevel somewhere? |
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12:23.12 | sam23m | praying for testing update! |
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12:38.43 | sam23m | i wish the n900's camera would take pictures faster |
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14:07.04 | merlin1991 | Pali: it's getting built |
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14:37.36 | Pali | merlin1991, ok write me when packages will be in cssu T repository |
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15:18.55 | DocScrutinizer | what's that stuff with slow nicocam? |
15:19.43 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: 2 mins too late |
15:19.45 | DocScrutinizer | allegedly taking ages to store pic |
15:20.03 | merlin1991 | I never experienced slow nikocam |
15:20.39 | merlin1991 | maybe he/she experienced swapping hell? |
15:20.42 | DocScrutinizer | I as well faul to see a story that explains it |
15:20.48 | DocScrutinizer | possibly |
15:21.00 | DocScrutinizer | fail* |
15:21.40 | DocScrutinizer | or friggin tracker kicking in, turning system into a mess |
15:22.25 | DocScrutinizer | (btw sth that happens also when I accept a call - recall starts a new file, tracker rears its ugly head :-S ) |
15:22.45 | DocScrutinizer | unbearable |
15:23.38 | merlin1991 | why don't you add the folder recall uses to the tracker ignore config? |
15:24.02 | merlin1991 | I mean it isn't trackers fault that it's not configured to ignore that set of files |
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15:43.20 | MohammadAG | accepting calls is a nightmare on Fremantle |
15:44.51 | DocScrutinizer | I don't actually want it to ignore the files, as I eventually want to playback then in mediaplayer |
15:45.20 | DocScrutinizer | just friggin tracker could shutup until call finished |
15:45.34 | RST38h | Only if your device has been up for a while :) |
15:46.02 | merlin1991 | well recaller could send tracker the dbus command to pause |
15:46.06 | merlin1991 | and continue when it's done |
15:46.09 | merlin1991 | so the file gets picked up |
15:46.22 | DocScrutinizer | nice idea |
15:46.33 | RST38h | DocScrutinizer: A sensible (albeit somewhat awkward) solution would be to 1) permanently shut doen background tracker process and 2) add a desktop or status menu option saying "Reindex media" |
15:46.37 | merlin1991 | i think nikocam has that code somewhere |
15:47.00 | merlin1991 | RST38h: I'd rather add 2 desktop icons for paus and unpause tracker |
15:47.04 | RST38h | Pausing tracker takes time |
15:47.10 | merlin1991 | and just let it run when you feel like |
15:47.23 | DocScrutinizer | pausing tracker no option when inbound pending |
15:47.24 | RST38h | merlin: or one status item - "Tracker: Do | Shutup" |
15:47.34 | merlin1991 | yeah |
15:47.52 | merlin1991 | so have tracker not running in general, but once a day tell it now you can :D |
15:48.03 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
15:48.08 | DocScrutinizer | a possible solution |
15:48.14 | RST38h | not once a day |
15:48.26 | RST38h | because it does not know when you are adding media and want it shown |
15:48.37 | RST38h | so it has to be a button saying "run tracker once" |
15:48.52 | DocScrutinizer | I could trigger it from dbus scripting when call finished |
15:48.59 | RST38h | plus an on/off switch if you wish so |
15:49.14 | MohammadAG | or do it the Android way |
15:49.30 | DocScrutinizer | kill -sigstop * ? |
15:49.30 | MohammadAG | run indexer only in certain conditions, otherwise add data manually :P |
15:49.46 | MohammadAG | indexer runs when you disconnect mass storage, or insert an SD Card |
15:50.03 | MohammadAG | otherwise (when downloading), the browser adds the file to the db |
15:50.09 | MohammadAG | rather than having the indexer running |
15:50.14 | MohammadAG | of course this needs major changes in code |
15:50.14 | DocScrutinizer | errr |
15:50.53 | MohammadAG | kill -sigstop is not the android nor iOS way |
15:51.04 | MohammadAG | android allows app to run in the background |
15:51.07 | DocScrutinizer | for that amount of changes I'd rather go for nuking tracker off the globe and replace it in apps like mediaplayer with a dirt straight fs access |
15:51.11 | RST38h | please note that tracker is *already* configurable almost to this degree via config file |
15:51.28 | RST38h | so it may not be such a huge fix |
15:51.32 | MohammadAG | iOS gives apps some time to save state and quit |
15:51.48 | merlin1991 | http://paste.debian.net/162447/ |
15:51.56 | MohammadAG | iOS 4.0 mutlitasking simply added the overridable function viewDisappeared() or whatever |
15:52.32 | MohammadAG | saving state and quitting is a nice idea |
15:52.43 | javispedro | it is not |
15:52.47 | MohammadAG | when you have a 6GHz CPU that can launch apps quick enough for the user not to notice it |
15:52.52 | javispedro | back to the PalmOS days we are. |
15:52.55 | MohammadAG | wait for the sentence to finish javispedro |
15:53.22 | MohammadAG | on iOS you see a splash screen for quite some time |
15:53.28 | javispedro | ah, sorry :) |
15:53.34 | DocScrutinizer | anywqay: |
15:53.35 | MohammadAG | like Settings on Maemo 5 |
15:53.37 | DocScrutinizer | Apr 6 19:33:48 IroN900 tracker-indexer[4619]: GLIB WARNING ** Tracker - Unable to retrieve info from file (Error stating file '/home/user/MyDocs/calls/CurrentlyRecording.wav': No such file or directory) |
15:53.46 | MohammadAG | lol |
15:54.04 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, 2220 tests passed |
15:54.08 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: does it stash does away later on? |
15:54.19 | merlin1991 | s/h does/h those/ |
15:54.23 | DocScrutinizer | obviously |
15:54.37 | MohammadAG | fuck openssl |
15:54.39 | merlin1991 | well then just get it to write somewhere else that curently file |
15:54.48 | merlin1991 | tell tracker to ignore the fsckd folder |
15:54.52 | MohammadAG | building Qt takes time but it's fun to watch |
15:54.58 | MohammadAG | tracker works on Harmattan |
15:55.07 | MohammadAG | why? cause all the internals were changed |
15:55.08 | merlin1991 | and then tracker happily indexes your "encoded, renamed whatever" file that shows up somewhere else later |
15:55.15 | DocScrutinizer | well, not somewhere else, just in this very dir |
15:55.24 | MohammadAG | and probably cause of the 768MB increase in RAM |
15:55.32 | DocScrutinizer | only under a different name of file |
15:55.33 | merlin1991 | I don't think you can get tracker to ignore a single file in a dir |
15:55.53 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
15:56.11 | javispedro | hey, I couldn't get fremantle tracker to ignore anything until that patch I made :) |
15:56.11 | merlin1991 | so recaller has to write the temp file into some ignored folder and later on copy/move into indexed folder |
15:56.15 | DocScrutinizer | the issue however is that it indexes at all during call |
15:56.26 | merlin1991 | javispedro: ignore patch? |
15:56.30 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: that too, indeed |
15:56.47 | merlin1991 | on your page I only noticed mediaart stuff and removebale device fixes |
15:56.49 | javispedro | yeah, ignore patch |
15:57.11 | javispedro | http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/tracker/realignore.patch |
15:57.38 | DocScrutinizer | I noticed that flaw in tracker some 2 years ago, I think |
15:57.42 | javispedro | oh, but this was for external mountpoints |
15:57.46 | DocScrutinizer | always thought it's just me |
15:58.04 | javispedro | the problem is that tracker adds certain mountpoints by default to its "watch" list |
15:58.11 | merlin1991 | silly tracker |
15:58.13 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
15:58.19 | DocScrutinizer | idiot prog |
15:58.22 | javispedro | and FORGETs to compare those autoadded mountpoints against the exclude list |
15:58.42 | javispedro | well, as MohammadAG, it got some work on Harm, this bug and a few others have been fixed |
15:58.45 | javispedro | *said |
15:59.00 | merlin1991 | javispedro: those 3 patches from you will end in the next cssu-testing :D |
15:59.12 | MohammadAG | does the N900 have tracker-utils preinstallde? |
15:59.24 | DocScrutinizer | not afaik |
15:59.27 | DocScrutinizer | not sure |
15:59.33 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: openssl finsihed |
15:59.40 | MohammadAG | fuuuuuuuuuu |
15:59.58 | DocScrutinizer | dang, I seem to be glued to this chair :-S |
16:00.12 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: err what? |
16:00.14 | DocScrutinizer | hotel california syndrome |
16:00.15 | MohammadAG | what about libtrackerclient0 |
16:00.31 | MohammadAG | You can checkout any time you like... |
16:00.40 | DocScrutinizer | but you can never leave |
16:00.50 | MohammadAG | bangs head while listening to solo in head |
16:01.20 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, openssl finished here |
16:01.22 | MohammadAG | muhahaha |
16:01.44 | merlin1991 | do you still want a tarball or using your build? |
16:02.24 | MohammadAG | I'll use my build :p |
16:02.38 | merlin1991 | all those cycles |
16:02.39 | MohammadAG | libssl0.9.8 and openssl right? |
16:02.41 | merlin1991 | wasted for nothing |
16:03.05 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: I have a dump of the mp depends here |
16:03.06 | merlin1991 | comparing :D |
16:03.20 | MohammadAG | check tracker while you're at it :p |
16:03.25 | DocScrutinizer | btw I've seen odd thing: apps were rotated to portrait in taskswitcher while they rotated to landscape in fullscreen |
16:03.35 | MohammadAG | and check if libcrypto0.9.8-udeb is installed |
16:04.07 | merlin1991 | <PROTECTED> |
16:04.20 | MohammadAG | tracker-utils? |
16:04.23 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess when an app is allergic to portrait, it will barf up even when rendering for thumbnail portrait |
16:04.28 | merlin1991 | yes |
16:04.33 | merlin1991 | libtrackerlient0 aswell |
16:04.59 | DocScrutinizer | so I dare calling this behaviour a bug |
16:05.33 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: hm landscape only applications don't rotate in the switcher afaik |
16:05.44 | DocScrutinizer | app that shows the behaviour (though not suffering from it): extended call log |
16:06.01 | MohammadAG | we shouldn't depend on |
16:06.02 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
16:06.02 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
16:06.02 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
16:06.04 | MohammadAG | anymore right? |
16:06.27 | merlin1991 | sec |
16:06.36 | MohammadAG | ig waut |
16:06.37 | MohammadAG | oh wait |
16:06.49 | MohammadAG | ig waut looks like german btw, probably means something too |
16:06.56 | MohammadAG | should depend on maemo-applet-tvout |
16:07.14 | merlin1991 | nah :D |
16:07.25 | MohammadAG | yes |
16:07.32 | MohammadAG | it's a stock replaced control panel applet |
16:07.35 | merlin1991 | Pali: tv-out which packages do we have to depend on ? |
16:07.41 | DocScrutinizer | I got protrait desktop, I open extcalllog via desktop shortcut, it displays in landscape, even when device helt portrait and kbd closed. I go to taskswitcher: extcalllog renders portrait thumbnail |
16:08.00 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: what's a portrait thumbnail in you book? |
16:08.01 | DocScrutinizer | held* |
16:08.27 | Pali | status-menu-applet-tvout is needed for all Tvout packages |
16:08.29 | merlin1991 | because I open quassel2go (landscape only qt app) go to switcher, hold device in portrait and nothing happens |
16:08.30 | DocScrutinizer | obviously a thumbnail that's not only rotated but also rearranged |
16:08.46 | MohammadAG | so basically |
16:08.49 | MohammadAG | all 3 packages? |
16:08.50 | Pali | and maemo-applet-tvout is control panel plugin |
16:08.53 | merlin1991 | only the header of the thumbnail with the application names swapps |
16:08.55 | MohammadAG | and the backend |
16:09.03 | Pali | maemo-applet-tvout is needed too |
16:09.12 | Pali | and maemo-tvout-control is optional |
16:09.16 | DocScrutinizer | or in short: a thumbnail of a portrait screen |
16:09.33 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: screenshot that please |
16:09.38 | merlin1991 | I'm still confused |
16:09.40 | Pali | cssu meta package must depends on: maemo-applet-tvout and status-menu-applet-tvout |
16:09.55 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, lemme see what I can do and where to upload, now that OVI us dead |
16:10.06 | Pali | both packages should not be in user/section |
16:10.10 | MohammadAG | so basically, nothing changed |
16:10.23 | MohammadAG | except that we need yet another package, libtvctl |
16:10.28 | merlin1991 | yep |
16:10.42 | Pali | maemo-tvout-control is optional and this only should be user/ section |
16:10.43 | MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/hk5qc3RN merlin1991 |
16:10.59 | DocScrutinizer | HAHAHA, screenshot of taskswitcher in portrait, with closed kbd. YEAH! |
16:11.04 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: ssh in |
16:11.07 | merlin1991 | gst-launch |
16:11.09 | DocScrutinizer | in always |
16:11.11 | merlin1991 | be a hero |
16:11.18 | DocScrutinizer | I'm |
16:11.21 | merlin1991 | looking the commandline up currently |
16:11.28 | MohammadAG | don't slide it all the way |
16:11.30 | MohammadAG | you can do it |
16:11.37 | MohammadAG | the engineer does it the hardware way |
16:11.42 | MohammadAG | disassemble the device |
16:11.44 | merlin1991 | I remember posting it on nokia developer some time ago |
16:11.50 | DocScrutinizer | what's the key shortcut? |
16:11.50 | MohammadAG | break the switch detecting slides |
16:11.56 | MohammadAG | CTRL+SHIFT+P |
16:12.12 | MohammadAG | or just cat /dev/fb0 > rawimage then convert that to png |
16:12.18 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, I can do this ;-P |
16:12.34 | DocScrutinizer | (sh-ctl-p) |
16:12.40 | merlin1991 | or let me find the fsck commandline |
16:13.07 | merlin1991 | here we go: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Capture_movie_directly_from_N9/N950_screen |
16:13.16 | merlin1991 | gst-launch-0.10 ximagesrc num-buffers=1 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! pngenc ! filesink location=screenshot.png |
16:13.27 | merlin1991 | i think it's gst-launch without the -0.10 on maemo |
16:13.28 | MohammadAG | cat /dev/fb0 > rawimage ffmpeg -vcodec rawvideo -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb32 -s 800x480 -i rawimage -f image2 -vcodec png screenshot.png |
16:13.35 | RST38h | Dear gods, please, port SiB to Harmattan. Sorry |
16:13.55 | MohammadAG | forgot a ; somewhere |
16:14.01 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, check the debian/control file |
16:14.04 | MohammadAG | pastebin link |
16:15.13 | DocScrutinizer | oops friggin crap, wasn't extcalllog |
16:18.12 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: libxml2 missing |
16:18.17 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, added it now |
16:18.18 | DocScrutinizer | but Fahrplan |
16:18.22 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, is -utils in the mp? |
16:18.25 | MohammadAG | libxml2-utils |
16:18.41 | merlin1991 | nope |
16:18.50 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, not mine, PR1.3's |
16:18.54 | merlin1991 | yeah |
16:18.58 | merlin1991 | that's what I checked :D |
16:19.05 | merlin1991 | is a wizard |
16:19.21 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: install Fahrplan, start up in portrait mode, it forces to landscape |
16:19.21 | MohammadAG | we're done here |
16:19.45 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: then while still holding device in portrait, open taskswitcher |
16:20.05 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: watch Fahrplan thumbnail rerendering and rearranging whle screen |
16:20.11 | MohammadAG | Uploading |
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16:20.12 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: nfc what you do |
16:20.17 | merlin1991 | but fahrplan has a portrait mode here |
16:20.34 | DocScrutinizer | well, it doesn't here |
16:20.37 | merlin1991 | wtf |
16:20.44 | merlin1991 | afaik I don't have forced enabled |
16:20.58 | merlin1991 | version? |
16:20.59 | MohammadAG | <3 1MBps upload speed |
16:21.01 | merlin1991 | I have 0.0.29 |
16:21.07 | DocScrutinizer | and that's the way I like it and it's been until recently some crap nuked my UI-may-rotate gconf key |
16:22.00 | DocScrutinizer | no matter why, an app that's in ls in fullscreen mustn't switch to portrait in appswitcher *only* |
16:22.50 | DocScrutinizer | I wouldn't deny it's a bug in Fahrplan though |
16:22.53 | DocScrutinizer | NFC |
16:23.42 | DocScrutinizer | as evidently a lot of other apps (xterm etc) do NOT rotate to pt in appswitcher |
16:23.50 | merlin1991 | even with ui_can_rotate false it rotates |
16:24.04 | merlin1991 | do you by any chance have to portrait lock enabled? |
16:24.11 | merlin1991 | or parts of it :D |
16:24.35 | DocScrutinizer | could you paste the gconftool line here to set ui_can_rotate false, please? |
16:24.50 | merlin1991 | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false |
16:24.55 | DocScrutinizer | hanks |
16:26.26 | merlin1991 | found the cornercase you had |
16:26.31 | merlin1991 | ui_can_rotate to true |
16:26.35 | DocScrutinizer | err, is gconf user specific? |
16:26.38 | merlin1991 | but orientation_lock true |
16:26.47 | merlin1991 | dunno |
16:26.53 | merlin1991 | I always ran that stuff as user though |
16:27.06 | DocScrutinizer | should it take effect immediately? |
16:27.09 | merlin1991 | yes |
16:27.20 | DocScrutinizer | oh yes, it does |
16:27.30 | merlin1991 | the state you want is ui_can_rotate false |
16:27.30 | DocScrutinizer | :-D |
16:27.33 | merlin1991 | and portrait_lock false |
16:27.43 | merlin1991 | but you're right about the taskswitcher |
16:27.48 | DocScrutinizer | no more portrait appswitcher, no more way to see the "bug" |
16:28.07 | merlin1991 | well fahrplan app itself supports portrait |
16:28.26 | merlin1991 | but you managed to have the ui rotation enabled whilst the other 50% of the lock (apps) were engaged |
16:28.48 | merlin1991 | so it got forced back to landscape but the taskswitcher could still rotate happily |
16:28.53 | DocScrutinizer | mhm, I think the separation of that is the root bug |
16:29.17 | merlin1991 | I think the lock is the root bug ;) |
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16:29.39 | DocScrutinizer | nah, portrait is the root of all bugs |
16:29.44 | merlin1991 | hehe |
16:30.33 | DocScrutinizer | will you open a ticket against $whatever regarding it? |
16:30.46 | merlin1991 | well it was actually right in what it did |
16:30.58 | merlin1991 | it acted accordingly to it's 2 config parameters |
16:31.03 | DocScrutinizer | the result however is wrong |
16:31.27 | DocScrutinizer | so the definition of the semantics of those 2 parameters is flawed |
16:31.28 | merlin1991 | but we've got the general "portrait lock comes from deeper layers of hell" ticket anyway |
16:31.45 | merlin1991 | which we hopefully can start to tackle soon |
16:32.43 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: is the release uploaded? |
16:33.00 | merlin1991 | I can't test till tomorrow evening (only brought my -stable n900 with me) |
16:33.33 | freemangordon | guys, any idea where the hell is jonwil? |
16:33.42 | merlin1991 | nfc |
16:33.42 | DocScrutinizer | \o/ no more weird rotation when holding device a bit out of the flat |
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16:34.40 | merlin1991 | btw anybody in here who has experience with acl on debian (or another distro)? |
16:34.42 | DocScrutinizer | even if I'd appreciate portrait, I'd bitch about gmeter orientation detection algo even more |
16:34.48 | DocScrutinizer | it's unbearable |
16:35.23 | freemangordon | anyone willing to help RE libcellularsettings.so, i.e. "phone" control panel applet. I have some progress, but it would take me probably a month or so and I have to suspend all other projects :( |
16:35.26 | DocScrutinizer | I.E the threshold and hysteresis is way too low |
16:36.16 | merlin1991 | yeah I agree abotu the threshold |
16:36.36 | merlin1991 | sometimes I get rotation with the slightes change of physical rotation state |
16:36.55 | DocScrutinizer | yep, that's hysteresis though |
16:37.14 | freemangordon | hmm, lets try on TMO |
16:37.22 | DocScrutinizer | aka "on at 9, off at 4" |
16:37.26 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: good luck with that ;) |
16:37.51 | merlin1991 | at least closing an application isn't tied to the same system |
16:37.55 | freemangordon | :) thanks. damn library is 40k of object code :( |
16:38.22 | merlin1991 | the am I going to close this now game on harm is so annoying |
16:38.48 | DocScrutinizer | ?? |
16:39.14 | merlin1991 | harm closes applications with a swipe from the physical "up" |
16:39.22 | DocScrutinizer | aaah |
16:39.24 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
16:39.39 | merlin1991 | especially funky if the device is lying flat on the desk |
16:39.50 | DocScrutinizer | hehe |
16:40.14 | merlin1991 | hm something went wrong with the ads on the page I'm currently visiting |
16:40.44 | DocScrutinizer | the virus failed and splattered screen with its blood? |
16:41.21 | merlin1991 | firstly it's about "related video" even though I'm reading some text |
16:41.46 | merlin1991 | and secondly its "Getting Started in PowerPoint 2010" and "How to Disable AutoComplete in Internet Explorer" |
16:41.58 | merlin1991 | (page content is about acl) |
16:42.05 | DocScrutinizer | hihi |
16:42.08 | merlin1991 | wonders how those fit |
16:42.52 | DocScrutinizer | probably your IP inherited from a winlose noob |
16:43.35 | merlin1991 | yeah dhcp from the isp here |
16:43.49 | merlin1991 | actually was G-lined on qnet from one of the ips I got :D |
16:44.21 | DocScrutinizer | haha, yeah that happens |
16:44.40 | DocScrutinizer | some foolish nets set IP glines |
16:44.48 | DocScrutinizer | btw what's a gline? |
16:44.51 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, uploaded |
16:45.00 | DocScrutinizer | only knows k-lines |
16:45.34 | merlin1991 | is that what freenode calls a ban? |
16:45.50 | DocScrutinizer | yup, server wide ban |
16:45.55 | DocScrutinizer | network wide |
16:46.20 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
16:46.26 | merlin1991 | on quakenet it's g-lined |
16:46.29 | DocScrutinizer | ~kline |
16:46.37 | DocScrutinizer | ~k-line |
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16:46.53 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 | meeting: 04.04 19:00 UTC |
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16:47.48 | merlin1991 | time to write a changelog |
16:47.55 | merlin1991 | aint that fun :/ |
16:48.28 | merlin1991 | Pali: ke-recv is in the repos now |
16:48.40 | Pali | ok |
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17:00.14 | merlin1991 | changelog for current cssu release http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#T-maemo3 |
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17:07.14 | merlin1991 | hm bugs.maemo.org is slow |
17:07.32 | DocScrutinizer | I thought it's dead ;-P |
17:07.53 | DocScrutinizer | but no, that's been harm bt |
17:15.28 | Raimu | Hmm, let's fire up the ol' appman, then. |
17:15.58 | Raimu | ...and tell it to refresh after it's been churning 'round for a couple of minutes already. I love this app. |
17:17.15 | merlin1991 | damn going over the buglist I realized that there are more bugs filed for the stuff fixed in this version |
17:19.27 | merlin1991 | I think I added them all now |
17:20.49 | merlin1991 | why o why did I start the garage page |
17:20.54 | merlin1991 | one more thing to manage |
17:21.43 | Raimu | Tracker-doc conflict... hmms, let's see what's up with that. |
17:26.00 | merlin1991 | Raimu: what's the exact package name of the conflict? |
17:26.30 | NIN101 | I wonder whether it is safe to update from 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.1 haha :P |
17:26.46 | merlin1991 | NIN101: updates from any cssu version up should be save |
17:30.57 | merlin1991 | waits for the first entry in the -testing thread on tmo :D |
17:31.33 | NIN101 | hmm. but I first have to make sure that /etc/event.d/rcS-late and /etc/init.d/rcS weren't changed |
17:34.20 | merlin1991 | wth have you set up on your n900? |
17:34.26 | merlin1991 | and afaik we don't touch them |
17:34.49 | NIN101 | e. g. encrypted /home/ - needed some hacks in those bootscripts. |
17:38.04 | merlin1991 | I guess you could use dpkg-divert to keep your changes save |
17:40.11 | merlin1991 | srly, nobody who knows a thing or two about acls? |
17:42.09 | NIN101 | just ask... :P |
17:54.10 | merlin1991 | well i need to have 1 directory where a bunch of users (in a group) can drop files which 1 other user can modify at will |
17:58.30 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, creating something means modifying it |
17:58.53 | DocScrutinizer | thus your plan won't be that easy, by concept |
17:59.02 | NIN101 | but the users in the group should only drop them, not modify? If so, then it will be very difficult. |
17:59.47 | DocScrutinizer | you could use inotify-monitor to move files or change their perms once they got created |
18:00.24 | DocScrutinizer | this way only the creator will have a valid write filehandle |
18:00.49 | DocScrutinizer | of course there's still a race, a window of "vulnerabiity" |
18:01.10 | merlin1991 | tbh I don't care that much about denying modify |
18:01.27 | merlin1991 | my bigger problem is to autoallow the other user to have rights |
18:02.12 | NIN101 | setfacl -m user:name:rwx folder or whatever? |
18:02.55 | merlin1991 | well I have nfc about acl, only thought that it probably is the sanest way to approach this |
18:03.30 | DocScrutinizer | you want a "local superuser"? |
18:03.41 | DocScrutinizer | perfectly feasible with ACL |
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18:42.29 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: yes, and that leaves me with the original question, how :D |
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19:00.34 | arcean | merlin1991: Pali: freemangordon: we have a problem with situations like this: "1. Neither MyDocs, nor external card got mounted on startup" |
19:00.47 | arcean | for e.g. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1189418&postcount=494 |
19:02.39 | freemangordon | arcean, I saw that, but NFC what is that supposed to mean |
19:03.08 | Pali | arcean, bug when something points to /lib/init/upstart-job means problem with debhelper |
19:03.10 | arcean | looks like emmc and memory card is not mounted on startup |
19:03.36 | Pali | this is big in creating package when calling dh_init* |
19:03.56 | freemangordon | Pali, you know that bug? |
19:04.03 | Pali | yes |
19:04.13 | Pali | seems like new version of debhelper or dpkg |
19:04.33 | Pali | if you use regular scratchbox fremantle dpkg, this wont happen |
19:04.44 | Pali | (dpkg and debhleper) |
19:04.46 | freemangordon | scratchbox? |
19:05.06 | freemangordon | what has scratchbox to do with that? |
19:05.20 | Pali | scratchbox creating package |
19:05.21 | freemangordon | I mean those reports are for real devices |
19:05.51 | freemangordon | you mean that the packages are prepared outside scratchbox? |
19:05.55 | merlin1991 | Pali: so you mean with a newer debhelper the build goes bad? |
19:06.05 | Pali | but 412b said that ke-recv point to upstart-job |
19:06.16 | arcean | so what can we do, to fix the problem? |
19:06.25 | freemangordon | new update? |
19:06.30 | Pali | try recompile package in scratchbox |
19:06.35 | freemangordon | merlin1991, who prepared those packages? |
19:06.46 | Pali | and check if /etc/init.d/ke-recv point to upstart-job or not |
19:07.01 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: mag |
19:07.06 | Pali | upstart-job is used on ubuntu |
19:07.19 | Pali | maemo still using /etc/event.d |
19:07.41 | freemangordon | MohammadAG ping |
19:07.47 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: mag is gone for today |
19:07.51 | freemangordon | great |
19:07.58 | merlin1991 | well I'm still here ;) |
19:08.02 | freemangordon | merlin1991, do you have scratchbox installed? |
19:08.08 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: what a question :D |
19:08.32 | arcean | nice, there's at least 5 people with bricked Maemo :D |
19:08.33 | freemangordon | well, Paliu is still using mad AFAIK :D |
19:08.57 | Pali | madde has also fremantle compatible dpkg & debhelper |
19:08.58 | merlin1991 | arcean: that's why it's called -testing and has a reflash warning on the wiki page :D |
19:09.16 | freemangordon | merlin1991, make a new update ASAP |
19:09.19 | arcean | merlin1991: yeah :D |
19:09.37 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: sure, but I'll need the info as to why it went bad |
19:10.01 | merlin1991 | Pali: which version of debhelper is bad? |
19:10.12 | freemangordon | because MAG has Harmattan SDK, that is why |
19:10.12 | Pali | all which is not in freamntle |
19:10.20 | Pali | so this can be reason |
19:10.20 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I have both aswell |
19:10.27 | Pali | harmattan dpkg & debhelper |
19:10.32 | freemangordon | And I am getting sick of that socalled maintanersip |
19:10.49 | Raimu | This is hilarious to read as I see the CSSU installation crawl increase in yellow length. :p |
19:10.51 | Pali | I have qemu image for SDK fremantle |
19:10.55 | Raimu | On my n900. |
19:11.10 | Pali | I can try to start it up and try to compile ke-recv |
19:11.18 | merlin1991 | just wait |
19:11.19 | Pali | but I need to get version |
19:11.24 | merlin1991 | builds ke-recv |
19:11.28 | Pali | ok |
19:11.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991, I have NFC how are those packages compiled, but it seems it is not done as it should |
19:12.05 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: the problem is that you have so much influence on how a package is built from the buildpc |
19:12.10 | freemangordon | and lets fix this stuff before more devices are bricked. Will investigate afterwards, when mag is here |
19:12.32 | freemangordon | merlin1991, disagree |
19:12.55 | Raimu | And reboot... let's hope I'm not bricked now. :-) |
19:12.55 | freemangordon | you shold have a scratchbox environment which is used ONLY for CSSU |
19:13.06 | freemangordon | you have AFAIK, ain't? |
19:13.15 | merlin1991 | yeah I have |
19:13.17 | freemangordon | see |
19:13.29 | freemangordon | are you sure MAG has one? |
19:13.39 | merlin1991 | I know for sure that mags sb is kinda fucked up |
19:13.50 | freemangordon | :nod: |
19:13.52 | merlin1991 | for example I never had those modest build bs |
19:15.39 | freemangordon | merlin1991, make a post on TMO please, there is a little chance to save some innocent souls |
19:15.45 | Raimu | No bricks here. Whew. |
19:15.54 | merlin1991 | Raimu: got MyDocs mounted? |
19:16.15 | merlin1991 | btw Raimu this isn't exactly bricking, only 90% of your datastorage is going to be missing |
19:16.20 | Raimu | :D |
19:16.23 | Pali | ok, I see that problem is really with that upstart |
19:16.28 | Pali | ke-recv will not start |
19:16.34 | Raimu | merlin1991: I've got MyDocs mounted. |
19:16.39 | freemangordon | could it be started manually? |
19:16.43 | Pali | no |
19:16.43 | merlin1991 | wtf |
19:16.50 | Pali | because script is deleted |
19:16.59 | Pali | script should be in /etc/init.d/ke-recv |
19:17.14 | Pali | but debhelper deleted it and created some upstart link |
19:17.19 | freemangordon | ok, do we have terminal in that situation? |
19:17.59 | Pali | you can downgrade |
19:18.08 | freemangordon | yeah, that was my idea |
19:18.13 | Pali | copy startup script |
19:18.16 | Pali | upgrade |
19:18.25 | Pali | and then add back that script |
19:18.41 | freemangordon | Pali, no need for that, just downgrade until next update is ready |
19:18.52 | Pali | ok |
19:18.58 | Pali | and when will be next update? |
19:19.03 | freemangordon | Pali, do you know the exact command? |
19:19.08 | freemangordon | ask merlin1991 :D |
19:19.08 | merlin1991 | Pali: when I've built it :D |
19:19.16 | Pali | /etc/init.d/ke-recv start |
19:19.19 | merlin1991 | Pali: how can I check if my build is proper? |
19:19.24 | freemangordon | no, for downgrade |
19:19.38 | Pali | merlin1991, update somewhere package |
19:19.41 | Pali | *upload |
19:19.41 | merlin1991 | apt-get install ke-recv=MEMOVERSION |
19:20.03 | Pali | or see if you have correct script /etc/init.d/ke-recv |
19:20.10 | Pali | in builded deb package |
19:21.36 | merlin1991 | Pali: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/ke-recv_3.19-14_armel.deb |
19:22.31 | Pali | seems is ok |
19:22.49 | merlin1991 | hm but mags package has a /etc/init.d/ke-recv aswell |
19:23.03 | Pali | really? |
19:23.12 | Pali | diff it |
19:23.16 | merlin1991 | yes |
19:23.16 | merlin1991 | http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/k/ke-recv/ke-recv_3.19-14_armel.deb |
19:23.49 | Pali | no |
19:23.56 | Pali | that package has invalid symlink |
19:24.19 | Pali | that package is really bad |
19:25.00 | Pali | it show me: lrwxrwxrwx 1 pali pali 21 Apr 7 16:20 etc/init.d/ke-recv -> /lib/init/upstart-job |
19:25.00 | merlin1991 | hm funky diff http://paste.ubuntu.com/919373/ |
19:25.19 | Pali | merlin1991, there is really no file etc/init.d/ke-recv |
19:25.30 | Pali | it is only symlink!!! |
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19:25.58 | merlin1991 | hm why does ark resolve it to file then? |
19:25.59 | merlin1991 | weird |
19:26.08 | Pali | because you have ubuntu? |
19:26.14 | merlin1991 | probably |
19:26.21 | merlin1991 | anyway does my build look ok? |
19:26.28 | Pali | I wrote that that upstart is used on ubuntu |
19:26.30 | Pali | yes |
19:26.36 | Pali | seems your build is ok |
19:26.42 | Pali | oh no |
19:26.49 | Pali | there is other problem |
19:27.10 | Pali | it is not easy to upgrade from MAG bad version to your new fixed |
19:27.22 | merlin1991 | Pali: I'll upload with higher version |
19:27.31 | Pali | this is not enought |
19:27.46 | merlin1991 | what else is problematic? |
19:27.52 | Pali | conffine |
19:27.58 | Pali | *confile |
19:28.13 | Pali | when you try to upgrade with dpkg -i <new version> |
19:28.26 | Pali | ... old invalid link will not be replaced /etc/init.d/ke-recv |
19:28.42 | Pali | so you need to first uninstall ke-recv and then install new version again |
19:28.57 | merlin1991 | hm? |
19:28.59 | Raimu | Why not? |
19:29.06 | freemangordon | Pali, why is that? |
19:29.15 | merlin1991 | how can mags packge replace but a higher version not? |
19:29.16 | Pali | freemangordon, try it |
19:29.33 | Pali | merlin1991, try too |
19:29.39 | merlin1991 | not -testing device with me |
19:29.45 | Pali | first install bad mag version |
19:29.46 | freemangordon | I can't, my device is running ke-recv build by me |
19:29.59 | freemangordon | aah |
19:30.02 | freemangordon | yeah |
19:30.08 | Pali | freemangordon, install MAG version and then install fixed merlin version |
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19:30.21 | Pali | I tried this and bad link /etc/init.d/ke-recv was still here |
19:30.26 | freemangordon | Pali, don't have time to do that now, sorry. Do you know the reason |
19:30.28 | freemangordon | ? |
19:30.33 | Pali | yes |
19:30.35 | merlin1991 | tries |
19:30.37 | Pali | conffiles and dpkg |
19:30.58 | merlin1991 | Pali what is the wrong link and what would the right one be? |
19:31.20 | Pali | file /etc/init.d/ke-recv must be shell script |
19:31.38 | Pali | but MAG version has symlink with that filename |
19:31.50 | freemangordon | whatever it means :D. anyway, seems there is enough expertise without me bringing noise. |
19:31.59 | Pali | and when you try to upgrade file will not be replaced with symlink |
19:32.20 | Pali | merlin1991, at least release new version quickly |
19:32.33 | merlin1991 | why does the symlink from mag kill that though? |
19:32.38 | merlin1991 | Pali: on my way |
19:33.00 | Pali | because debian conffiles and dpkg behaviour |
19:33.22 | merlin1991 | SILLY |
19:33.37 | Pali | there could be hope: HAM using apt-worker and it does not used dpkg but libapt |
19:33.46 | Pali | so maybe HAM will update it |
19:34.22 | Pali | fix for that problem could be: delete /etc/init.d/ke-recv and reinstall new version of ke-recv |
19:34.56 | Pali | when file /etc/init.d/ke-recv will not exists, dpkg will unpack correct version from deb package |
19:35.19 | Pali | $ sudo rm -rf /etc/init.d/ke-recv && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ke-recv |
19:35.39 | Pali | this could fix this problem ^^^ |
19:39.11 | DocScrutinizer | haha, let's start the fun then |
19:39.56 | merlin1991 | okay fixed package with increased version number is up |
19:40.06 | merlin1991 | adjusts the metapackge |
19:40.38 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: no, this is not the way to *test* packages. it's not called devel after all, it's TESTING, implying it's already considered working, and that implies it got tested thoroughly by developer and a few guinea pigs |
19:40.49 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: yes yes yes |
19:40.56 | merlin1991 | well it was |
19:41.01 | merlin1991 | it was a build error that made it all bad |
19:41.15 | merlin1991 | also no time, gotta prevent bricks ;) |
19:41.49 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |
19:45.14 | merlin1991 | okay fixed file should be uploaded |
19:45.49 | merlin1991 | yes it's there |
19:49.57 | merlin1991 | okay now that we have a proper package out there, why did this upstart bs happen? |
19:50.08 | merlin1991 | or rather, can we prevent that on source level? |
19:53.03 | freemangordon | merlin1991, there is no way to prevent the MAINTAINER from doing BS to the packages |
19:53.13 | merlin1991 | yes |
19:53.27 | merlin1991 | though can we prevent debhelper from doing bs? |
19:54.00 | Pali | yes, if we use correct debhelper :D |
19:55.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991, well, then we should fix all the control files |
19:55.31 | freemangordon | to depend on debheler version in SB |
19:55.46 | freemangordon | s/debheler/debhelper/ |
19:56.10 | DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: :-D |
19:56.16 | DocScrutinizer | thumbs up |
19:57.12 | DocScrutinizer | plus I'd like to suggest to find a way to give a release a final check before enabling it to general public |
19:57.49 | freemangordon | but that does not answer the question WHY THE HELL MAG UPLOADS STUFF IN THE REPOS WITHOUT BEING TESTED ON HIS DEVICE? |
19:58.16 | DocScrutinizer | and have advisory instructions from patch devels on how to test the possible areas of impact for their patch |
19:58.46 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: plus thing is getting handled |
19:58.52 | merlin1991 | aka cssu-devel |
19:59.03 | merlin1991 | aka I need them damn acl done so it can go live |
19:59.39 | freemangordon | merlin1991, but then the maintainer should not build the stuff which is already in -devel repo |
19:59.51 | merlin1991 | yea |
19:59.53 | DocScrutinizer | well, I hope the man pages will be clear on ACL |
19:59.58 | freemangordon | BTW that is why i uploaded ke-recv on your server |
20:00.13 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: man pages on acl just intrduce a state of "brain is full of fuck" |
20:00.23 | merlin1991 | s/intrduce/introduce/ |
20:00.39 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
20:01.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991, so THAT build to be used. BTW do we know if there are other packages fcked up? |
20:01.19 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: we never know that |
20:01.33 | DocScrutinizer | could we find a way to know? |
20:01.50 | merlin1991 | ofc, upgrade and check if everything still works :D |
20:02.00 | freemangordon | If I were you, I will rebuild all the stuff from the last update and will make a new update |
20:02.01 | DocScrutinizer | *sigh* |
20:02.18 | freemangordon | excluding ke-recv of course |
20:03.12 | freemangordon | see, it just does not make sense to have bug-reporst for nonexisting bugs, it is the same situation as with modest. |
20:04.00 | freemangordon | it took 4 months to find that actually MAG's SB is fcked up. |
20:04.28 | Pali | can we use autobuilder on garage? |
20:04.37 | freemangordon | no |
20:04.39 | freemangordon | no way |
20:04.43 | Pali | why? |
20:04.46 | freemangordon | Qt |
20:05.13 | freemangordon | plu autobuilder will put the stuff in extras-devel :p |
20:05.18 | freemangordon | *plus |
20:05.48 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: there actually is a builder specific for communit and community-testing |
20:05.55 | freemangordon | at least if we don't feed him with KP :D |
20:06.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991, do we have access to it? |
20:06.13 | merlin1991 | but it has an fsckd setup that is partly copied over from the -devel builder |
20:06.21 | merlin1991 | which leads to most things not building |
20:06.53 | merlin1991 | when I started -stable I've spent about a month untill I gave up and just compiled in a dedicated sb target |
20:08.11 | merlin1991 | only that this sb target by now is polluted by -devel stuff, so for next stable I'll create yet another new sb target |
20:08.15 | merlin1991 | fun times ahead |
20:08.27 | merlin1991 | err not -devel but cssu-testing |
20:09.28 | freemangordon | so, effectively we don't have autobuilder and should do the job by hand |
20:10.08 | merlin1991 | yep |
20:10.41 | merlin1991 | though I've played with the idea to hack together an outobuilder on my server :) |
20:10.45 | merlin1991 | but that is for the far future :D |
20:10.56 | merlin1991 | lol @ outobuilder |
20:11.08 | merlin1991 | see, that's what the acl manpages did to me! |
20:11.35 | freemangordon | :D |
20:12.43 | merlin1991 | I really wonder though how we can prevent debhelper from doing silly ubuntu specific things |
20:12.58 | freemangordon | I was near the same state a few hours ago, while REing libcellularsettings |
20:13.13 | freemangordon | by using the EXACT version in control file |
20:13.27 | merlin1991 | sure that's one way |
20:13.45 | merlin1991 | though afaik newer debhelper somehow coexists with older one or something |
20:14.01 | merlin1991 | could be spreading fud though, not sure |
20:14.33 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: one day I'll know how to RE stuff aswell, for now I know way too much about various build systems source->binary :D |
20:17.45 | merlin1991 | the most interesting thing I learned today though is, that ark when it finds a symlink inside a tar also presents you your local file |
20:17.46 | merlin1991 | kinda wtf |
20:17.55 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: restore backup? |
20:18.13 | merlin1991 | of my brain or what? |
20:18.19 | merlin1991 | sry, you got me lost there |
20:19.10 | DocScrutinizer | <merlin1991> only that this sb target by now is polluted by -devel stuff, so for next stable I'll create yet another new sb target |
20:21.07 | merlin1991 | yeah there is one thing about backups, you gotta do ones to be able to restore them :D |
20:21.52 | merlin1991 | but creating a new sb target is quite fast, untar rootstrap, install maemo-whatever-mp, add cssu repo, install qt, hussa I'm done :) |
20:35.07 | merlin1991 | hm I've got my acl as far as that the user in question can edit the files because he's got rw |
20:35.16 | merlin1991 | but he can't move / delete the file |
20:35.32 | merlin1991 | ah wait |
20:36.23 | merlin1991 | it works |
20:36.48 | merlin1991 | I tried to move the file within the folder, but whilst the user was allowed todo anyhting with the file, he couldn't write to the folder |
20:36.49 | merlin1991 | :P |
20:37.23 | freemangordon | so, we have a working -devel repo? |
20:37.38 | merlin1991 | about 5 commands away of going live |
20:37.51 | merlin1991 | and ofc I'll have to email you guys the instructions :D |
20:38.45 | merlin1991 | it beats me though why the acl tool is called setfacl (set file access list) even though it works on direcotries aswell |
20:38.56 | freemangordon | unix? |
20:39.14 | Sicelo | everything is a file :P |
20:39.16 | freemangordon | everything is a file :p |
20:39.22 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
20:39.28 | merlin1991 | fu :D |
20:40.07 | merlin1991 | shit |
20:40.08 | DocScrutinizer | LOL |
20:41.31 | freemangordon | Pali, isn't it time to put KP50 in testing? |
20:42.41 | Pali | yes |
20:42.49 | Pali | I will promote it now |
20:43.41 | freemangordon | great |
20:51.16 | Pali | done |
20:51.27 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/ |
20:52.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991, what versions are the packages there? |
20:52.12 | merlin1991 | current -devel |
20:52.17 | merlin1991 | err -testing |
20:52.21 | freemangordon | ok |
20:52.30 | freemangordon | great |
20:52.31 | merlin1991 | should not operate as root in such a state |
20:52.47 | freemangordon | rm -rf / ? |
20:52.51 | freemangordon | :D |
20:53.12 | merlin1991 | I just have to remember the pass I set for the reprepro user then I can start the handler for the incoming queue and you can start breaking it :D |
20:54.11 | merlin1991 | hm I should write the passwords down one day |
20:54.26 | freemangordon | Pali, KP49 is ready for extras, KP50 is still not in -testing. Maybe we should promote KP49 in -extras first :( |
20:54.51 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: you need votes for that not promotion |
20:54.51 | Pali | ok, I will try |
20:55.07 | Pali | I think we have needed votes |
20:55.20 | freemangordon | yeah, I can vote too if neede :D |
20:56.03 | merlin1991 | okay the incoming system should be alive aswell |
20:56.23 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: got some package ready you could upload as a test? |
20:56.57 | freemangordon | ok, i have a new version of libconnui-dev |
20:57.11 | merlin1991 | hehe the only package that isn't even in the repo |
20:57.14 | freemangordon | let me change debian/changelog |
20:57.15 | merlin1991 | but should be fine aswell |
20:57.38 | freemangordon | why it is not in repo? |
20:58.16 | merlin1991 | because it is not part of the user end |
20:58.25 | Raimu | I find it hilarious how my n900 now goes into offline mode and probably reboots updating T3 to T3.1 |
20:58.31 | merlin1991 | and possibly can wrek havok on devices actually |
20:58.42 | merlin1991 | it's a re package for a library that exists otherwise on the device |
20:58.50 | merlin1991 | coming from another package ondevice |
20:59.17 | freemangordon | it is -dev package, mp should not depend on it, but it should be available in repo |
20:59.32 | merlin1991 | well it is on gitorious |
20:59.35 | freemangordon | however |
21:00.08 | freemangordon | merlin1991, what version to assign, current is 0.1 |
21:00.11 | freemangordon | ? |
21:00.17 | freemangordon | 0.1-1? |
21:00.50 | merlin1991 | yea |
21:01.04 | Pali | I promoted v49 packages too |
21:01.22 | merlin1991 | uh oh |
21:01.35 | Pali | freemangoron, if I missed someting to promote, you can also promote it too |
21:01.43 | merlin1991 | I can see maemo.org going down screaming trying to comprehend having pk in -testing and extras |
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21:11.52 | freemangordon | Pali, ok, but it seems the mess continues :D |
21:12.38 | Pali | ok, seems that maemo package interface win... |
21:12.49 | freemangordon | :D |
21:13.11 | Pali | I do not have needed power for package interface now |
21:13.25 | Pali | try to promote packages too |
21:13.44 | freemangordon | ok |
21:13.46 | Pali | if you do not have rights, request for them |
21:13.50 | freemangordon | will try |
21:16.14 | freemangordon | Pali, promote KPS too |
21:21.24 | freemangordon | Pali, after all we won :D http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/kernel-power/2.6.28-10power50/ |
21:23.08 | Pali | I cannot promote this package: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/kernel-power-settings/0.14/ |
21:23.16 | Pali | promote button is missing... |
21:23.19 | Pali | and I'm login |
21:23.35 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: do you plan to use the -devel repo a lot? |
21:23.53 | freemangordon | merlin1991, well, NFC, depends on what is ready |
21:24.03 | freemangordon | but most-probably not |
21:25.01 | merlin1991 | anyway, when you use it take care to make small x.yourversion increments so it can seamlessly update to -testing state when we make a real release again |
21:25.23 | freemangordon | x.myversion or x-myversion? |
21:25.44 | merlin1991 | hm |
21:25.56 | merlin1991 | from a debian standpoint I gues x-myversion makes more sense |
21:26.19 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: maybe it's nonsense, but I noticed that those buttons often were hidden for me when I had wrong browser or wrong settings or anything |
21:26.45 | DocScrutinizer | also switching theme helped IIRC |
21:26.49 | Raimu | Pali: Has it got something to do with that glaring "Warning: This package does not have a proper description" message? |
21:29.10 | freemangordon | is afk |
21:30.19 | Pali | I think description is OK |
21:32.42 | Pali | freemangordon, I created link: https://maemo.org/packages/repository/promote/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/kernel-power-settings/0.14/ |
21:32.57 | Pali | and it show me: Can not continue promotion, because dependency package kernel-power-flasher is a user section package and needs to be promoted first! |
21:33.07 | freemangordon | :D |
21:33.17 | merlin1991 | pwnd |
21:33.46 | freemangordon | Pali, seems it needs some time |
21:33.56 | Pali | it is stupid, that for this reason is not visible show button |
21:33.59 | freemangordon | KP50 took 15 or so minutes to appear in -testing |
21:35.33 | freemangordon | or we will need X-Fade to clear KP42 from extras :( |
21:36.23 | Raimu | :) |
21:36.26 | freemangordon | seemskernel-power-flasher 2.6.28-maemo42 > kernel-power-flasher 2.6.28-10power49, damn |
21:37.13 | Pali | who can delete package from repo or interface? |
21:37.17 | Pali | only X-Fade?? |
21:37.24 | freemangordon | AFAIK |
21:37.47 | Pali | supertesters cannot? |
21:38.11 | merlin1991 | removal != promotion |
21:38.40 | Pali | and what can supertesters? |
21:48.14 | Pali | merlin1991, can you tell to X-Fade to remove old version of kernel-power from Extras? |
21:48.36 | merlin1991 | I guess I'll reach him earliest on tuesday if I reach him |
21:49.18 | Pali | Extras-Devel & Extras-Testing is OK now |
21:51.06 | Pali | merlin1991, why is status-menu-applet-tvout in user/desktop section? |
21:51.32 | merlin1991 | I guess because mag didn't check the sections |
21:51.48 | Pali | ok, I will change it in git |
22:00.17 | Pali | done |
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22:10.25 | MohammadAG | yeah... what's 3.1? |
22:10.32 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, ? |
22:10.43 | merlin1991 | your ke-recv build was broken |
22:10.54 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, in what way? |
22:10.56 | merlin1991 | wrong debhelper created upstart link instaed of /etc/init.d shell script |
22:11.04 | MohammadAG | err |
22:11.19 | merlin1991 | fix your fsckd scratchbox :D |
22:12.40 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, so it's unrelated to the bug report? |
22:12.47 | merlin1991 | bug report? |
22:13.50 | MohammadAG | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12594 |
22:13.52 | povbot | Bug 12594: the todays CSSU update messed up my N900 completely !!! |
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22:15.27 | merlin1991 | that can be closed as stufu fixed |
22:15.51 | merlin1991 | it's all thanks to ke-recv not loading |
22:15.56 | MohammadAG | nice |
22:17.41 | DocScrutinizer | we should train users to clearly state if they're talking about T or S! |
22:18.20 | Raimu | *facepalm* |
22:18.45 | Raimu | "STFU FIXED" sounds great, though. |
22:21.46 | Pali | freemangordon, I updated my n900 to last cssu T, but mmc names are not fixed |
22:22.53 | Pali | I have one partition for nemo with name "Nemo" and other partitions with other names. But hildon-fm/osso-file-manager show me paritions: Nemo, Nemo (1), Nemo (2), Nemo (3), Nemo (4) |
22:26.09 | Raimu | Works for me. |
22:28.33 | merlin1991 | gotta love it how 12594 is filed as enhancement |
22:30.50 | MohammadAG | isn't it? |
22:31.13 | MohammadAG | I thought breaking devices was an enhancement |
22:38.05 | merlin1991 | hmm https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12031 close as fixed or wontfix? :D |
22:38.05 | povbot | Bug 12031: Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far |
22:40.39 | MohammadAG | well now it's invalid really |
22:41.29 | DocScrutinizer | I opt for WONTFIX |
22:42.40 | DocScrutinizer | project discontinued means WONTFIX, that's what Andre__ does all the time |
22:44.26 | merlin1991 | wontfixed |
22:47.18 | javispedro | the music player does not find the stoned music! |
22:48.05 | merlin1991 | stoned music? wtf? |
22:48.34 | Raimu | I've heard of stoner music, sure, but... |
22:48.49 | javispedro | "stoned bug reporter" returns no hits sadly :( |
22:48.54 | javispedro | *google hits |
22:49.10 | DocScrutinizer | hey javispedro :-D |
22:50.24 | javispedro | heya |
22:50.48 | freemangordon | Pali, and what is is supposed to be? |
22:51.09 | Pali | freemangordon, for ech partition correct name |
22:51.10 | merlin1991 | hm I feel like closing that bug with something along the lines of "Despite this bugreport consisting of 100% fail I can assure you that all your problems are solved with Tmaemo3.1" :D |
22:51.40 | Pali | freemangordon, my partitions have names: Data, Kubuntu, Nitdroid, Nemo |
22:52.49 | freemangordon | hmm, libossfm is in the update? |
22:53.23 | merlin1991 | wasn't it already in the last one |
22:54.09 | Pali | freemangordon, I think this is problem with ke-recv |
22:54.10 | merlin1991 | libhildonfm was part of the last cssu-testing |
22:54.20 | freemangordon | Pali, what is your libhildonfm version? |
22:54.22 | Pali | because ke-recv will send to fm mmc names |
22:55.05 | freemangordon | Pali, i see what you mean |
22:55.26 | Pali | 1:2.28.22+0cssu2 |
22:55.51 | freemangordon | yep, that is the correct version |
22:56.03 | freemangordon | Pali, at least icons are correct? |
22:57.28 | Pali | yes |
22:57.31 | Pali | icons is ok |
22:57.43 | Raimu | Note to self, don't try to rename a uSD partition with hildon file manager. |
22:58.05 | freemangordon | so, it is in ke-recv most probably |
22:58.05 | Raimu | NOW I've got a buncha partitions named Thing, Thing (2), Thing (n)... |
22:58.12 | Pali | I renamed it on PC |
22:58.21 | Pali | Raimu, same names |
22:58.24 | Pali | I have |
22:58.28 | freemangordon | Raimu, yes, that is what we are talking about |
22:58.39 | Raimu | Before I tried renaming using hildon file manager, I had them proper. |
22:58.57 | Raimu | I renamed one, it just went and renamed everyone in order. |
22:59.37 | freemangordon | Raimu, can you check that using PC? |
22:59.47 | Raimu | Lemme check. |
23:00.08 | Pali | freemangordon, I check output from lshal and it show me correct parts names |
23:00.17 | freemangordon | as it seems the real problem is that ke-recv does not send correct names to libhildonfm, not that the partitions are renamed in a row |
23:00.40 | Pali | $ lshal | grep volume.label |
23:01.24 | Pali | ok, now I'm going offline |
23:01.29 | Pali | bye bye |
23:01.34 | freemangordon | bye |
23:05.34 | merlin1991 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1189475&postcount=142 |
23:05.50 | merlin1991 | I BET 2 of his 130 apps are theme customizer and modified-hildon-desktop |
23:06.19 | merlin1991 | and the icing on top probably is "speedpatch" |
23:06.56 | freemangordon | don't think so. have in mind that he had updated KP too, sometimes you need to power-cycle your device to get rid of SGX recovery errors. |
23:07.00 | Raimu | Well, I see hitting rename on a completely different partition in hildon fm does in fact rename at least the fat partitions I have in there. |
23:07.39 | freemangordon | Raimu, could you please file a bug with the instructions to recreate? |
23:07.54 | freemangordon | is afk |
23:08.27 | Raimu | Uh, haven't ever filed a bug, but I guess so. |
23:08.54 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: yeah SGC recovery is a possibility too |
23:09.01 | merlin1991 | err SGX |
23:09.22 | merlin1991 | but I don't see how cssu is at fault for getting his device into a completely unstable mode |
23:09.44 | merlin1991 | afaik we dont du such things unless we publish improper packages of ke-recv :D |
23:14.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991, there is a bug in SGX kernel driver, sometimes not initializing the hardware properly after a reboot, and that is what CSSU does ;) |
23:15.02 | javispedro | do what? |
23:15.22 | javispedro | freemangordon: you mean you fixed that? |
23:16.06 | merlin1991 | no but an installation issues a reboot :) |
23:16.25 | merlin1991 | so potetntially when you install it you run into SGX recovery madness :D |
23:16.45 | javispedro | ah |
23:16.52 | javispedro | I hate all PowerVR drivers :( |
23:16.57 | merlin1991 | omfg http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1189517&postcount=510 |
23:17.09 | merlin1991 | it's the 3rd person that asks the question |
23:17.17 | merlin1991 | and this time the changelog was even up in time |
23:17.21 | merlin1991 | facepalms |
23:40.14 | DocScrutinizer | indeed |