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| 08:40.08 | ivgalvez | Hi, is there anything blocking the inclussion of World Clock replacement in CSSU? |
| 08:43.38 | freemangordon | ivgalvez, AIUI it is lack of active maintainer |
| 08:43.54 | freemangordon | s/lack/the lack |
| 08:44.52 | Lava_Croft | and its odd way of inlcuding different seetings |
| 08:44.56 | Lava_Croft | settingd* |
| 08:45.02 | Lava_Croft | grr settings, what the |
| 08:45.13 | freemangordon | ade seems not active on TMO, and despite being asked several times to join here, as you may see, it is not here too |
| 08:45.33 | Lava_Croft | i think ade already mmoved on |
| 08:45.56 | freemangordon | Lava_Croft, that should not be a problem, once (and if) it enters CSSU repo, there will be a lot of cleanup anyway |
| 08:46.17 | Lava_Croft | true |
| 08:47.55 | ivgalvez | no one with interest in taking maintanace from the actual status? |
| 08:48.23 | freemangordon | ivgalvez, you mean from the current CSSU devs? |
| 08:48.44 | ivgalvez | yes |
| 08:49.27 | ivgalvez | I suppose that after a bit of clean up it shouldn't require too much maintenance |
| 08:49.43 | ivgalvez | the app seems rock solid (dunno about the quality of the code) |
| 08:50.14 | ivgalvez | and feature complete |
| 08:50.45 | freemangordon | well, current CSSU devs means me, Pali and arcean. I am talking about those who are active more than one commit per month. Don't know about the others, but I am on the edge with regards to free time/projects |
| 08:51.13 | ivgalvez | sigh |
| 08:51.38 | freemangordon | maybe it is better to ask on TMO if anyone is willing to maintain it. |
| 08:51.58 | ivgalvez | down again |
| 08:51.59 | freemangordon | or on the mailing list, it seems fancy these days :D |
| 08:52.05 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 08:52.06 | ivgalvez | yup |
| 08:52.25 | ivgalvez | just in the middle of the discussion about the great maintenance from Nokia :D |
| 08:52.37 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 08:52.48 | freemangordon | but I am sure it is a coincidence :D |
| 08:53.09 | ivgalvez | and funny how fast management has been thronwn to Quim |
| 08:54.06 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 08:54.24 | freemangordon | but at least it is some action |
| 08:54.31 | freemangordon | better than nothing |
| 08:55.41 | freemangordon | BTW I will contact him re KP50 and repos |
| 08:56.53 | freemangordon | ivgalvez, it was you having problems with 720p and abc? |
| 08:59.03 | ivgalvez | Yes, unfortunately it was on a trip to Ireland with lack of connectivity and time to test |
| 08:59.15 | ivgalvez | and need of taking pictures :D |
| 08:59.35 | ivgalvez | now I'm back to work... almost |
| 09:00.03 | freemangordon | it is solved now, you can check the thread on TMO (once it is up again). And check my comments re LGPL too |
| 09:02.17 | ivgalvez | I saw it, but I didn't have the chance to test it. I have also in my TODO to contact the original developer asking for sources. |
| 09:02.22 | ivgalvez | thanks |
| 09:02.46 | freemangordon | np |
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| 13:19.26 | merlin1991 | pings MohammadAG |
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| 16:29.36 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: ping |
| 16:30.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991, pong |
| 16:31.05 | merlin1991 | when you update a debian/changelog (like camera-ui) use your email in the entry if it's yours |
| 16:31.25 | merlin1991 | otherwise it's hard to keep track of who did what (in case of camera-ui you made an entry as mag) |
| 16:31.39 | freemangordon | hmm, I think I always do that. |
| 16:31.59 | freemangordon | Anyway, it is possible I made a mistake |
| 16:32.04 | freemangordon | ok, point taken |
| 16:32.05 | merlin1991 | sure :) |
| 16:33.04 | merlin1991 | I didn't reach mag till today, so now I'm going over the packages we proposed as upgrade and prepare them for release so that mag just has to build them and then he'll get an email |
| 16:33.11 | freemangordon | merlin1991, BTW, did you pester MAG enough, so there will be a new -testing in the observable future? |
| 16:33.20 | freemangordon | ahh :D |
| 16:33.44 | merlin1991 | I tried to pester him :/ |
| 16:33.52 | merlin1991 | but apart from me saying ping a lot nothing happened |
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| 16:34.50 | merlin1991 | btw did you follow the drama on the community mailing list? |
| 16:34.56 | freemangordon | yeah :D |
| 16:35.48 | freemangordon | it is funny how the ones who did not make a single post on TMO in the last six months and more now demand the things |
| 16:36.11 | merlin1991 | well I don't post on tmo either but still feel like demanding stuff ;) |
| 16:36.22 | freemangordon | TBH I think CSSU team should join the drama |
| 16:36.35 | freemangordon | merlin1991, you past |
| 16:36.38 | freemangordon | *post |
| 16:36.56 | freemangordon | announcements for new -stable release :D |
| 16:37.01 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 16:37.03 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 16:38.18 | freemangordon | still, I really think you and MohammadAG (if still interested in maemo) should join the conersation |
| 16:38.52 | freemangordon | s/conersation/conversation/ |
| 16:40.17 | merlin1991 | I don't really know what my input would be though |
| 16:40.43 | merlin1991 | besides throwing everything we have in form of questions on quim/quill (who was it) and see what happens |
| 16:42.31 | freemangordon | that, plus your vision should be enough at least to see who wants what. See, it just not make sense to continue time-demanding projects if at the end of a day someone pulls the plug |
| 16:44.18 | merlin1991 | well cssu isn't going to die |
| 16:44.30 | merlin1991 | if maemo.org goes down we'll just run it on my server :D |
| 16:44.38 | freemangordon | :D:D:D |
| 16:45.15 | freemangordon | which reminds me to ask you what has happened with "devel-repo-to-be" :p |
| 16:45.26 | merlin1991 | it's 99% done |
| 16:45.32 | freemangordon | wow, great |
| 16:45.33 | merlin1991 | only thing left I need is acl for the folder |
| 16:45.56 | merlin1991 | so atm I'm writing down the order in which I have to turn of service |
| 16:45.59 | merlin1991 | *services* |
| 16:46.08 | merlin1991 | because in order to enable acl I have to remount / :D |
| 16:46.10 | merlin1991 | aka reboot :D |
| 16:46.47 | merlin1991 | there's just too much stuff running outside of the /etc/init.d scripts |
| 16:50.39 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: do we consider ourselves upstream for ke-recv? |
| 16:51.05 | freemangordon | I think so |
| 16:51.18 | freemangordon | it is maemo specific, isn't it? |
| 16:51.22 | merlin1991 | afaik it's a maemo only thing right? |
| 16:51.26 | freemangordon | :D |
| 16:51.33 | freemangordon | NFC |
| 16:52.01 | freemangordon | merlin1991, does Harmattan have ke-recv? |
| 16:52.39 | merlin1991 | checks |
| 16:53.11 | merlin1991 | nope |
| 16:53.39 | merlin1991 | yeah upstream then |
| 16:54.06 | freemangordon | yep |
| 17:00.23 | merlin1991 | hm the libxml repo history looks silly |
| 17:06.17 | freemangordon | why? |
| 17:10.04 | merlin1991 | because it is that short |
| 17:10.13 | merlin1991 | but my main problem is that I can't build libxml in scratchbox |
| 17:10.35 | freemangordon | python problems? |
| 17:10.49 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 17:11.01 | freemangordon | do you have extras-devel enabled in scratchbox? |
| 17:11.12 | merlin1991 | no |
| 17:11.43 | freemangordon | hmm, what exactly problems do you have? |
| 17:11.52 | merlin1991 | http://paste.debian.net/161915/ |
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| 17:12.41 | freemangordon | well, you should uninstall all the python you have installed, and install python from SDK repos |
| 17:12.45 | merlin1991 | and when I try to install pyhton-all for example I get python-all: Depends: python (= 2.5.2-3maemo1) but 2.5.2-3maemo4 is to be installed |
| 17:13.09 | freemangordon | check your sources.list |
| 17:13.39 | merlin1991 | nokia binaries sdk and tools |
| 17:13.42 | freemangordon | you have extras or extras-testing or -devel enabled in scratchbox |
| 17:13.55 | merlin1991 | no extras-anything enabled |
| 17:13.56 | freemangordon | apt-get update? |
| 17:14.19 | merlin1991 | done |
| 17:14.24 | merlin1991 | before the party |
| 17:14.40 | merlin1991 | actually my cssu scratchbox is a complete fresh one where I never enabled extras-anything |
| 17:15.10 | freemangordon | merlin1991, I had the same problem when trying to build libxml, and I uninstalled all the python and re-installed the version from SDK |
| 17:15.36 | freemangordon | it is a matter of repos |
| 17:15.37 | merlin1991 | hm looks like my base python version is fsckd |
| 17:16.06 | freemangordon | yeah, just uninstall everything python |
| 17:17.00 | merlin1991 | downgrading python and python-minimal is actually enough |
| 17:17.30 | freemangordon | well, ok :) |
| 17:17.41 | merlin1991 | ffs |
| 17:17.47 | merlin1991 | need to downgrade python2.5 aswell :D |
| 17:29.09 | freemangordon | merlin1991, aren't we alarmd upstream? |
| 17:31.04 | merlin1991 | well we're alarmd upstream in the same sense a we're ke-recv upstream but imo our changes to alarmd are so small that I would keep the reference to nokia |
| 17:31.23 | freemangordon | I am talking about the version |
| 17:31.27 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 17:31.30 | freemangordon | why +0cssu0? |
| 17:31.32 | merlin1991 | after all it's only a packaging thing :) |
| 17:31.55 | merlin1991 | " imo our changes to alarmd are so small that I would keep the reference to nokia " that's why 0cssu0 |
| 17:32.52 | merlin1991 | if we start doing crazy things with alarmd we always have the option to increase the upstream version |
| 17:33.13 | merlin1991 | only once you've changed the upstream version there is no going back except with epochs |
| 17:33.40 | freemangordon | well, ok, if you say so, but isn't "0cssu0" only for packages that we are NOT upstream. Minor or not, it is a bugfix version and we are upstream. |
| 17:33.57 | merlin1991 | well nokia is upstream |
| 17:34.07 | merlin1991 | we are truly upstream only in case of rewrites |
| 17:34.13 | freemangordon | ok :) |
| 17:34.35 | merlin1991 | only for example h-d can be considered taken over by us :) |
| 17:35.23 | freemangordon | I see. ok, it is not that important, I just want this versioning scheme to be clear to me. |
| 17:35.51 | merlin1991 | in general always thing +0ccsu0 first |
| 17:35.56 | merlin1991 | s/thing/think/ |
| 17:36.02 | freemangordon | ok, sure |
| 17:36.23 | merlin1991 | after that we can always say, nope this isn't some patch anymore we are upstream now and make a proper version number |
| 17:36.31 | merlin1991 | this way apt is happy aswell :) |
| 17:36.38 | freemangordon | :) |
| 17:40.54 | merlin1991 | dang going over those fsckd packages takes longer than I expected |
| 17:44.55 | merlin1991 | 2 more packages |
| 17:54.39 | merlin1991 | where's jonwil when you need him :/ |
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| 18:13.28 | merlin1991 | hm I need to queue a new track |
| 18:13.38 | merlin1991 | been listening to the same 7 mins of trance for over 3 hrs now :D |
| 18:19.03 | Sicelo | ;) |
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| 18:26.46 | merlin1991 | waits for the russian translation of continous view then the packages would be ready |
| 18:28.36 | merlin1991 | btw anybody from italy/czech/denmark/norway here? |
| 18:29.34 | freemangordon | merlin1991, let me try with russian |
| 18:29.50 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I've got that covered |
| 18:29.56 | merlin1991 | I know someone from russia :) |
| 18:30.17 | Sicelo | that's for pdf reader? |
| 18:30.25 | freemangordon | and how is it in russioan then, I am curious |
| 18:30.38 | freemangordon | s/russioan/russian/ |
| 18:31.23 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I'm waiting for his answer atm :) |
| 18:31.25 | merlin1991 | Sicelo: yes |
| 18:31.30 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 18:33.02 | Sicelo | kewl :) |
| 18:33.21 | Sicelo | btw, calculator is also in line for fix? |
| 18:33.41 | merlin1991 | Sicelo: calculator on stable or the one on testing? |
| 18:34.30 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: he came up with: Продолжительное листаниe |
| 18:34.41 | Sicelo | stable.. we still cant have non-integer powers, such as 2^0.5 |
| 18:35.06 | merlin1991 | yeah there is a "fix" in -testing but it is not complete :/ |
| 18:35.18 | merlin1991 | so it didn't end up in -stable yet |
| 18:35.56 | Sicelo | i wondered the other day if it would be 'safe' to downgrade calc in the meantime (on my own) :/ |
| 18:36.41 | merlin1991 | sure |
| 18:36.46 | merlin1991 | not going to break |
| 18:36.59 | merlin1991 | though you'll end up with manual work with each cssu upgrade |
| 18:37.07 | merlin1991 | since you'll loose the metapackage |
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| 18:39.43 | Sicelo1 | thanks. clear explanation :) |
| 18:40.17 | merlin1991 | though if you want to I can build you a fake package that is the old gui and does not break the cssu :) |
| 18:40.51 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ask your russian friend how "непрерывный просмотр" sounds to him |
| 18:41.00 | Pali | merlin1991, I'm Czech Republic, I will ask friends for proper translation |
| 18:42.10 | Sicelo1 | when CSSU gets African translations, I'll be in charge ;) :P |
| 18:42.17 | merlin1991 | hehe |
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| 18:45.17 | NIN101 | russian is my third language, but sounds good to me freemangordon. |
| 18:46.50 | Pali | merlin1991, in czech: souvislé zobrazení |
| 18:47.55 | freemangordon | NIN101, yeah, but lets wait some native speaker to confirm. |
| 18:48.20 | NIN101 | yep, don't think I know what is correct. |
| 18:54.14 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: he says it's somewhat right |
| 18:57.27 | freemangordon | somewhat? :) |
| 18:58.50 | merlin1991 | he says both mean about the same thing, but not exactly the same :D |
| 18:59.27 | merlin1991 | he says yours fits more to uninterrupted than to continuous |
| 19:01.46 | merlin1991 | okay rebooting to windows to write an email to mag |
| 19:01.59 | merlin1991 | damn you silly pop3 protocol |
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