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00:34.58LaoLang_coolhi, is it possible to quickly locate the application by alphabet, say enter 'cal' will locate to calendar in application menu
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09:05.09Paliping merlin1991
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09:45.11Palimerlin1991, upstream tvout project has splitted tvout packages to 2 git repositories
09:45.29Palifirst is https://gitorious.org/maemo-tvout-control/libtvout-ctl branch fremantle
09:45.50Palisecond is https://gitorious.org/maemo-tvout-control/maemo-tvout-control branch cssu-merge
09:46.35Palimerlin1991, please create new gitorious cssu repository libtvout-ctl and I can then update sources from upstream
09:53.52Palimerlin1991, can you also create cssu tracker repository (for garage todo)?
10:03.21merlin1991Pali: will do
10:20.36merlin1991Pali: do you have the upstream tracker repo? I only found the meego tracker
10:25.49Paliyes
10:25.59PaliI wrote it to todo comment on garage
10:26.11merlin1991okay :)
10:26.18Paliupstream tracker git repo is in meego git
10:26.25Palibut in branch fremantle
10:26.46PaliI checked and it is same version as in SDK repo
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10:29.31merlin1991shit the tracker repo is huge, clone takes forever
10:45.33merlin1991Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libtvout-ctl
10:45.51merlin1991I've also merged our maemo-tvout-control with the upstream cssu-merge branch
10:47.56merlin1991Pali: do you know what the branch "fremantle" is in the upstream repo?
10:51.06merlin1991hm seems to be different
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10:53.33merlin1991Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/tracker
10:53.47merlin1991ready with master as fremanlte-integration from meego tracker
10:59.21merlin1991WTF
10:59.30merlin1991garage todo page is making me crazy
10:59.36merlin1991the libxml task just vanished
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11:11.30merlin1991nope it didn't
11:11.38merlin1991I applied a kategory filter without knowing :$
11:13.07Palimerlin1991, upstream tvout repo has support for fremantle and harmattan too
11:13.34Paliso libtvout-ctl has 3 branches: master, fremantle, harmattan
11:13.42merlin1991yeah I was talking about tracker
11:13.46merlin1991(didn't say it though :$)
11:14.08merlin1991it seems the meego tracker repo has a fremantle branch which is about 4 versions behind fremantle-integration
11:14.10Paliah, I see now that fremantle-integration is correct
11:14.48merlin1991I've put the fremantle-integration as master onto gitorious
11:20.33Paliok
11:21.06Palimerlin1991, do you have some TV for testing if new merged version of tvout working?
11:21.14merlin1991yes
11:21.28Paliok, so if you have time try to compile new version and test it
11:21.35merlin1991okay
11:21.39Palinow I do not have any TV here :D
11:21.45merlin1991how come?
11:23.33Lava_Croftgood thing, Pali !
11:23.35Lava_CroftTV is boring anyway
11:24.01PaliI'm studing abroad and my notebook is enought for me :D
11:24.09Lava_Croft;)
11:24.18Paliyes, TV is boring, you are right
11:26.04merlin1991yeah I have to agree on the tv beeing boring
11:26.30merlin1991but watching them downloaded linux distributions on a small screen isn't as much fun as on a proper tv ;)
11:27.19Lava_Croftwell, i must admit
11:27.28Lava_Crofti have 'interactive tv' now, which means i can pause live TV
11:27.32Lava_Croftthat does make it a lot more bearable
11:27.45Lava_Croftstill need the option to fast-forward the commercial breaks tho
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12:10.24LaoLang_coolhi, I'v installed cron, but how to configure it to allow user add his own cron task?
12:20.16Lava_Crofttry #maemo?
12:20.49LaoLang_coolLava_Croft: yes, trying :)
12:37.21merlin1991lol, my ntfs harddrive is defragging since yesterday
12:37.27merlin1991still @ 38%
12:39.59RaimuSomething funny's up with the nicocam CSSU strings for the new video modes.
12:40.14RaimuWhen I pick HD 16:9, the selector button goes to state it's DVD 16:9 and vice versa.
12:41.46RaimuSame for the 4:3 options.
12:42.23RaimuL10n gone goofed. :P
12:42.45merlin1991Raimu: actually l10n is right
12:42.50merlin1991it's wrong within the code
12:43.09merlin1991the enumeration for the labels vs the one for the settings don't match :D
12:43.19Raimu:D
12:43.20merlin1991should be fixed with next release (fix is already on gitorious)
12:43.41RaimuGlad to know. It's superficial, but still.
12:44.21LaoLang_coolhi, can I configure cssu version to select application in application menu by type the name of it?
12:44.34LaoLang_coolsay type "cal" will select calendar
12:45.00merlin1991there is no such functionality in the application menu
12:45.19LaoLang_coolmerlin1991: ok..
12:45.22RaimuThe installable (non-CSSU!!) App Search Widget does that, though.
12:45.40RaimuIt seems harmless and I use it a lot.
12:46.17LaoLang_coolapp search widget, yeah, is a way, thank you :)
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16:58.17freemangordonmerlin1991, MohammadAG, would you please add pdf l10n to gitorious CSSU repo?
16:58.51merlin1991freemangordon: coming up later today
16:58.55freemangordonok
16:58.57merlin1991I'll also add all the translations from tmo
16:59.02freemangordongood
16:59.05merlin1991don't worry :D
16:59.09freemangordon:D
16:59.19freemangordonno fear...
16:59.26freemangordon:p
17:07.03Palihi, I have some problems with jonwil's cbs widget, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1185652#post1185652
17:07.43Palimerlin1991, freemangordon, see my post, what do you think about droping messages which start with @@@@@?
17:09.21freemangordonPali, what did jonwil say about that problem
17:10.50Palijonwil wrote that maybe operator sending invalid data
17:11.00Palior there is problem in nokias sw
17:11.13Paliat least it showing me same error
17:11.33freemangordonnokias sw? which one
17:11.36Paliand I think that NO operator should sent message which starting with 5 @
17:12.02Palihttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1132606&postcount=25
17:12.11Paliso no current answer
17:13.15freemangordonare those "@"s the only garbadge seen so far?
17:14.34freemangordonthose might be some special symbols
17:14.46Paliyes
17:14.59Paliat least in logs attached in that thread
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18:04.11rlinfatiwhy the tar.gz from the cssu include the .git directory ?
18:07.32merlin1991rlinfati: because nobody things about adding the proper commands to the dpkg-buildpackage to exclude them
18:07.42merlin1991tbh I can't even say which flag did it
18:07.52rlinfati-I.git ?
18:09.11merlin1991actually -i is enough
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18:55.36merlin1991freemangordon: translations are on gitorious including the ones we got from tmo
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19:07.20merlin1991why is it that with every version of the tv-out applet I'm updating the buildscripts to actually work in the maemo scratchbox?
19:07.38merlin1991does the main dev never build inside scratchbox?
19:08.50arceanmerlin1991: could you import openssl? http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/o/openssl/
19:40.02merlin1991arcean: no maemo git of openssl existing?
19:40.32arceanmerlin1991: unfortunately not
19:40.42merlin1991:/
19:41.35merlin1991I'll add it, need to test the tvout compile first :D
19:41.47arceanmerlin1991: ok, thanks :)
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20:01.48merlin1991Pali tv-out still works with new version
20:21.45merlin1991arcean: I'm running a buildtest before I push the files to gitorious, openssl has quite some tests in the buildscripts :D
20:27.41merlin1991srly, these tests are taking FOREVER
20:27.53merlin1991it's worse than libc and kernel post build checks
20:32.24merlin1991I'm starting to get the feeling it's running in circles
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20:43.30merlin1991omfg it did finish
20:49.41merlin1991arcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/openssl
20:49.56arceanmerlin1991: thanks
20:51.08arceanmerlin1991: btw, should I append "-0cssu0" or "+0cssu0" to the version string ?
21:10.05merlin1991arcean +0cssu0
21:10.20arceanok, I'll update mr
21:11.35merlin1991I knew adding the stuff nvidia-xsettings suggested to xorg.conf was a bad idea
21:11.42merlin1991my system doesn't boot anymore :/
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21:43.56DocScrutinizer+0OossoO0
21:46.00DocScrutinizer;.;:;:;o;o;o;O;O;O;O;0H
21:46.10merlin1991brainfuck?
21:46.33DocScrutinizer<PROTECTED>
21:46.39DocScrutinizer;-P
21:47.08DocScrutinizerwhitespace
21:47.17DocScrutinizerwhitespace >> brainfuck
21:48.23DocScrutinizerthe fun  part is  you  can embed   it in    any text
21:48.29merlin1991stop it :D
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22:04.24DocScrutinizerecho -e "[supplementary]\nssc=1\n" >>/home/user/.osso/call-ui.ini
22:10.37DocScrutinizeror let me put it tjis way: starhash-enabler would fit into CSSU painlessly
22:11.16DocScrutinizereven though it is a pkg in extras
22:13.00DocScrutinizerwould fit just as nicely as a "sleep 30" before invoking that time/date/language firstboot wizard
22:13.59DocScrutinizero has none of you noticed that cellmo is just a tad too slow to autoset time, before system nags you to do that manually
22:15.01DocScrutinizeror rather, that wizard is a tad too fast
22:15.03merlin1991cellmo never sets time here :/
22:15.13DocScrutinizertoo bad
22:15.26DocScrutinizerjust works, for me
22:15.53DocScrutinizerexcept when swapping bat and bupbat worn out
22:17.07DocScrutinizerfriggin wizard pops up, and when you open a xterm instead of futzing around with those clock hands and date slotmachine, and say "date", you already get right time and date
22:17.31DocScrutinizerwhile you can't close that wizard :-S
22:17.56DocScrutinizerwithout storing quite usually wrong time and date over the right one
22:18.25DocScrutinizerso getting a sleep 30 or even 60 there would do wonders
22:20.40DocScrutinizerwas that fuzzy enough now, or has anybody actually understood my idea?
22:21.28merlin1991nah I'm following you, but in my case I'd just hate it
22:23.12DocScrutinizeryou'd hate it less when >>  test -a /etc/cellmo-ntp/it-worked && sleep 60
22:27.03DocScrutinizermerlin1991: how's HD starting an "icon" aka .desktop? is ther some standard dbus or whatever method for that?
22:27.38merlin1991ask arcean I have nfc
22:27.54DocScrutinizerlet's say mc, which has a rather special .desktop that invokes a xterm with mc inside
22:28.54DocScrutinizerket's say I want exactly same thing to happen as if somebody had clicked that icon .desktop
22:30.22merlin1991hm com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr LaunchApplication
22:30.40DocScrutinizeryup, sounds like it
22:30.45DocScrutinizerthanks
22:30.49DocScrutinizer:-)
22:31.10merlin1991want's a string as input
22:31.38DocScrutinizerI have an idea for another great app almost as efficient in lines/benefit as starhash ;-D
22:33.15DocScrutinizerand since I CBA to code sth like that myself, I will exploit apmefo config GUI to copy all those .desktop to the special "autostart" subdir ;-D
22:33.57merlin1991apmefo? don't remember what that stands for
22:34.06DocScrutinizernfc
22:34.12DocScrutinizerthe better catorize
22:36.02DocScrutinizersth along applications, menu, folder, I guess
22:37.16DocScrutinizeriirc it's been written by a french girl?
22:37.35DocScrutinizerI might be wrong
22:38.07DocScrutinizerTHE FUCKING N900 STILL charges battery :-((((
22:38.20merlin1991dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr /com
22:38.21merlin1991/nokia/HildonDesktop/AppMgr com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr.LaunchApplication str
22:38.21merlin1991ing:osso-xterm
22:38.22merlin1991works
22:38.23DocScrutinizerthey sold me a battery fake
22:38.34merlin1991FFS putty and that gay copy paste support of it
22:38.48merlin1991dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr /com/nokia/HildonDesktop/AppMgr com.nokia.HildonDesktop.AppMgr.LaunchApplication string:osso-xterm
22:39.06DocScrutinizer\o/
22:39.19DocScrutinizerall hail to linux c&p , and ssh
22:39.58merlin1991currently running windoze
22:40.04merlin1991need to defrag an ntfs drive :/
22:42.24DocScrutinizerdduh, the fact that string is a name and no path makes me guess it's no bright idea to have different .desktop with same name
22:43.45DocScrutinizeror is the name referring to "name=foo" *inside* .desktop?
22:44.04merlin1991don't know
22:44.37merlin1991only found the reference to that dbus path with a quick grep over h-d sources and then tried with dbus-send :D
22:44.39DocScrutinizerI'll find out if I need a "find" or a "grep" for my autostarter
22:46.29DocScrutinizerisn't ot a brainfuck that this thing is called AppMgr, but then what'S called "Program Manager" in AppMgr menu actually is Hildon Application Manager? XP
22:47.36DocScrutinizermit eulenscheisse fuesilieren!
22:56.09DocScrutinizer51hat unser mathelehrer als ahndungsmassnahme bei solchen irnerweichenden fehlleistungen vorgeschlagen
22:56.37DocScrutinizer51s/ irn/ hirn/
23:30.36merlin1991tja nokia dev :D
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