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06:35.54maemo#freemangordon
06:36.32maemo#help me with a problem any in this thread please http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1175678#post1175678
06:38.35maemo.
06:39.49maemo#MohammadAG
06:39.58maemohelp me with a problem any in this thread please http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1175678#post1175678
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06:40.46DocScrutinizerhey, this isn't twitter or facebook ;-)
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06:41.30DocScrutinizerand I'd consider the nick 'maemo' almost a 'reserved word'
06:43.37DocScrutinizermaemo: (twitter) I.E. here the # is 'reserved' for marking channels - many irc clients actually handle #tagged strings specially for this reason
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06:44.41DocScrutinizermaemo: (nick) please change your nickname, maemo actually looks too much like you'd be either a bot or the super-moderator of all #maemo* channels
06:46.24DocScrutinizerhanks :-)
06:46.28DocScrutinizerthanks*
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14:27.32sam23many chance of new n9 flash player being ported to fremantle?
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14:43.38andre__sam23m, if you have access to the flash code you could do it :)
14:44.04sam23mme no coder =(
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15:06.14andre__sam23m, it's not about coding.
15:06.18andre__it's CLOSED source.
15:06.36sam23moh
15:09.43andre__ask Adobe for the code :)
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20:12.35freemangordonHi everyone
20:12.56freemangordonmerlin1991, meeting here?
20:13.38arceanhi freemangordon
20:13.59freemangordonarcean, hi
20:16.10freemangordonarcean, did you try my latest changes to h-d?
20:16.48arceanyes
20:16.58arceannow task nav is briliant :)
20:17.00freemangordonand?
20:17.06freemangordonyep :)
20:17.19freemangordonit just needs updated clutter
20:17.48freemangordonand one more glitch remains (somewhere in clutter/opengl es)
20:18.07arceanupdated clutter is in the cssu repo?
20:19.34freemangordonyep
20:19.44Palifreemangordon, see bugs for kernel-power on garage project
20:20.06PaliI closed more which are/will be fixed
20:20.07freemangordonPali, you mean did I see them?
20:20.19freemangordonDidn't have time
20:20.25Paliok
20:20.25RST38hNo new SSU? =)
20:20.45arceannot yet :)
20:21.10freemangordonwhy not?
20:21.34freemangordonwe are just missing merlin1991
20:21.37freemangordon:)
20:22.00arceanyeah :P
20:44.10freemangordonhmm, where is merlin1991
20:44.11freemangordon?
20:54.47freemangordonPali, I see 5 bugs remain open
20:55.14freemangordonat least wireles should be closed AIUI, as mesh is disabled in KP50
20:59.24freemangordonarcean, Pali, DocScrutinizer, any idea what has happened with merlin1991
20:59.39Palino idea
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21:33.38merlin1991freemangordon, Pali: sorry didn't get out of the bloody office since 20 mins ago :/
21:34.26merlin1991s/since/untill/
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21:40.26merlin1991Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2 (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting 14.03.2012 20:00 UTC, sry about missing the last one
21:40.28merlin1991arf
21:40.32*** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2 (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1 | meeting 14.03.2012 20:00 UTC, sry about missing the last one
21:40.39merlin1991one day I'll learn to put /topic first :D
21:40.44*** mode/#maemo-ssu [-o merlin1991] by merlin1991
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21:42.22freemangordonmerlin1991, shall we decide on next CSSU?
21:42.31merlin1991oh hi arcean
21:42.32freemangordonupdate I mean
21:42.36merlin1991if Pali is still around sure
21:42.59PaliI'm here
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21:43.36merlin1991okay, sry again for missing the actual time
21:44.19merlin1991my current list for the next update is:
21:44.21merlin1991depend on rtcom-accounts-voip-support
21:44.22merlin1991camera-ui l10n
21:44.22merlin1991status menu gconf fix
21:44.22merlin1991freetype
21:44.22merlin1991ke-recv?
21:44.35merlin1991+ the cve ones we decided to apply right away
21:44.57freemangordonmerlin1991, did you put those in garage?
21:45.02freemangordonas tasks?
21:45.28freemangordonif not, could you mail me the complete list, I will enter them
21:45.49merlin1991nope, I've been knee deep in work the past days (including this one) but after tomorrow afternoon I should finally be able todo them
21:46.00freemangordonok
21:46.30merlin1991are there some packages I'm missing that we have ready already?
21:46.38freemangordonTBH I think we have enough for new update without thics cves
21:46.51freemangordonyes, h-d and hildon-home
21:47.01freemangordonmaybe HAM. Pali?
21:47.16freemangordonHAM ready for show?
21:47.36merlin1991did arcean merge request or merge back against master?
21:47.48merlin1991ah I see some mgs
21:48.02freemangordonit is a merge request AFAIK
21:48.07PaliI did not tested HAM
21:48.09arceansome mgs against master
21:48.14Paliso no idea if working
21:48.22Paliand I have merge request for osso-xterm
21:48.23freemangordon:)
21:48.52merlin1991okay osso-xterm, h-d, h-h
21:49.00merlin1991freemangordon:  whatabout clutter, ready too?
21:49.14freemangordonneeds debian/changelog :)
21:49.18freemangordonready, yes
21:49.35arceanmerlin1991: + status-menu
21:50.01freemangordonwhere was this gconf setting missing?
21:50.05merlin1991arcean: that's only the gconf fix right?
21:50.07freemangordonhildon-home?
21:50.15merlin1991status-menu afaik
21:50.19arceanmerlin1991: yes
21:50.20freemangordonaah, ok
21:50.26merlin1991already on the list then :D
21:50.31arceanhildon-home too
21:50.41merlin1991arcean: that's h-h ;)
21:50.54freemangordonmerlin1991, ke-recv stable?
21:50.58merlin1991Pali: whatabout the updated ke-recv is that stable?
21:51.00arceanfreemangordon was asking :P
21:51.13freemangordon:D
21:51.21PaliI'm using ke-recv and seems to working
21:51.38Palithe only problem is that sometimes osso-file-manager is not responding...
21:51.53Palibut this is problem of closed osso-file-...
21:52.09merlin1991is it directly related to ke-recv?
21:52.19PaliI think no
21:52.43Paliproblem is that osso-... does not know what to do if SD card has more then 1 partition
21:53.05Paliand patches ke-recv mount all partitions of any type
21:53.42Paliso if you format SD card with 10 ext3 parts (3 primary+7extended) ke-recv will mount it properly
21:53.55Palibut mountpoint is /media/mmc1p<part_num>
21:54.18merlin1991hm do you think it's good enough for -testing?
21:54.23freemangordonmerlin1991, what about building all packages and uploading them somewhere, so we can install and run them for lets say a week to confirm stability
21:54.42Paliand one other problem: some apps (I think camera too) is saving data to /media/mmc1
21:55.06Palibut if SD card has more parts /media/mmc1 is empty - e.g no part is mounted to that directory
21:55.26Paliso please check if camera app will not crash!
21:55.41freemangordonaah, does not look like ready
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21:56.01Pali/media/mmc1 is owned by root (if nothing is mounted) so user cannot write to that dir
21:56.05merlin1991okay so I'll build a testpackage but not include it directly into -testing
21:56.13Palifreemangordon, but this parts problem cannot be sloved
21:56.21freemangordonmerlin1991, that is for all packages
21:56.35freemangordonPali, sure, but it is still not
21:56.45freemangordonoops, sorry
21:56.48fw190sorry for spoiling the meeting but what about the clock replacment? will it fit into cssu?
21:56.49Palibut if SD card has only one partition it it mounted to /media/mmc1
21:57.09freemangordonPali, who decides on mountpoint
21:57.41Palion mountpoint for more parts?
21:57.42PaliI
21:58.01merlin1991fw190: in theory yes, but so far nobody pushed it in here. I'll need a bit more hard facts about it :)
21:58.13freemangordonwell, then reserve /media/mmc1 for first VFAT partition
21:58.44freemangordonand mount it with -bind option
21:58.55Palifreemangordon, yes reserving /media/mmc1 for FAT32 is my todo list :-)
21:59.12merlin1991freemangordon: did you mean I should build all packages and put them somewhere to test before pushing them into -testing?
21:59.23freemangordon:nod:
21:59.34PaliI think that ke-recv can go to -testing
21:59.47arceanmerlin1991, it's great idea to build them and push somewhere
21:59.49freemangordonPali, it cannot AIUI
22:00.06Palinormal users does not have more parts on SD card, and power users has some tweaks how to use it
22:00.57freemangordonPali, what is the point pushing something in CSSU update when we now it will break several applications
22:01.03fw190merlin1991: thank you for the info. there was someone working on it as I recall so I asked. ok. I'm not interupting the meeting anymore
22:01.11freemangordon*know
22:01.20merlin1991fw190: you can't interrupt anything on irc ;)
22:01.46freemangordonPali, lets make it ready first
22:01.57merlin1991btw feel free to harass the dev to come here, or gather enough information yourself
22:02.04Palifreemangoron, ok
22:02.29Paliat least some other people, please test ke-recv
22:03.01freemangordonPali, any idea when you will implement /media/mmc1 reservation?
22:03.23PaliI will try to look at it in the weekend
22:03.31Paliit should not be hard
22:03.31freemangordonperfect
22:03.38merlin1991okay current list is:
22:03.39merlin1991depend on rtcom-accounts-voip-support
22:03.39merlin1991camera-ui l10n
22:03.39merlin1991status menu gconf fix
22:03.39merlin1991freetype
22:03.41merlin1991osso-xterm
22:03.43merlin1991h-d
22:03.45merlin1991h-h
22:03.50merlin1991anything still missing?
22:03.56freemangordonclutter
22:04.01merlin1991ah yeah
22:04.13freemangordonlet me check on gitorious
22:04.45Palimerlin1991, please test HAM (for upgrading CSSU)
22:05.02freemangordonmerlin1991, camera-ui too
22:05.17freemangordonit has a fix by nicolai
22:05.24merlin1991ah yeah niclai added another fix for the non wirteable bug
22:05.31freemangordonfor "unable to save" or whatever the bug was
22:05.49Palimerlin1991, HAM in my cloned git repo should have deleted stupid 8% check and info about using PC Suite
22:05.59Paliand some other smaill fixes
22:06.12merlin1991Pali: did you enable red pill as well?
22:06.20Paliyes
22:06.33Palivia old classis matrix way
22:06.41freemangordonPali, you said you did not test HAM
22:06.48merlin1991freemangordon: in the mg for hildon-desktop I see you nuked forced-rotation aswell
22:06.58freemangordonit is not me
22:07.01freemangordon:)
22:07.08freemangordonI will miss it actually
22:07.15freemangordonaah
22:07.18Paliyes, I did not tested it, because I testing needs to try upgrading CSSU
22:07.19freemangordonyeah, it is me
22:07.50Palie.g. creating very big file on rootfs and on /home/user and checking if it show some error messages
22:08.05merlin1991what's the rationale behind nuking forced rotation?
22:08.08freemangordonmerlin1991, it is only keyboard shortcut which is removed
22:08.18merlin1991ah the silly one?
22:08.23freemangordonyeah
22:08.44merlin1991okay makes sense
22:09.24merlin1991that changelog is going to be funny to create
22:09.28freemangordonPali, merlin1991, what about building .deb for HAM and uploading it to "devel" server?
22:09.46freemangordonThat way we can test it if it is stable or not
22:09.50merlin1991by devel do you mean $RANDOM or as in extras-devel?
22:09.59freemangordon$RANDOM
22:10.47freemangordonand we can ask on TMO if anyone is willing to test pre-release .debs
22:11.49merlin1991if you think we should have a devel server I can set up a repo on my server again like I did when preparing -stable
22:12.04merlin1991+ users and a cronjob so you all can push packages
22:12.15freemangordonmerlin1991, yeah, something like that
22:12.40freemangordonI was thinking of pure fileserver, but repo should do the job too
22:12.40Palifreemangordon, I looked at ke-recv code and here is problem with mounting first FAT partition
22:13.05Palibecause HAL does not enumerating partitions by order
22:13.14Palibut in random order
22:13.51Paliso I can add support for mounting one random FAT32 partition to /media/mmc1
22:13.54freemangordonPali, does not matter, at least we will have /media/mmc1 mounted
22:14.00Paliok
22:14.12freemangordonPali, the idea was:
22:14.32Paliproblem should be when user has more FAT32 parts, because HAM & ke-recv will choose one random
22:14.46freemangordonmount all the partitions and after that BIND /media/mmc1 to VFAT partition of your choise
22:15.13freemangordonyou can choose the bigges, first, last or whatever
22:15.25freemangordongrok?
22:15.44Palibinding will be problem, becase ke-recv & scripts should not unmount it correctly
22:15.49MohammadAGmerlin1991, a thing
22:15.58Paliso directly mounting FAT32 to /media/mmc1
22:16.07Paliis better
22:16.24merlin1991oh hai MohammadAG ;)
22:17.02freemangordonPali, why ke-recv cannot unmount it?
22:17.06MohammadAGhai
22:17.28MohammadAGPali, what if /media/mmc1 exists?
22:17.35MohammadAGand something's mounted there
22:18.01freemangordonMohammadAG, that is reserved for sdcard VFAT
22:18.06Palionly SD card can be mounted in /media/mmc1
22:18.32MohammadAGfreemangordon, I'm aware of that
22:18.34Paliand now (with stock ke-recv) is SD card automounted here
22:18.49Palidefault behaviour
22:18.57MohammadAGI understood that if you want to mount a USB drive for example formatted in FAT32, you'd mount it on /media/mmc1
22:19.18MohammadAGmust've misunderstood
22:19.24Palino, ke-recv USB drive mount to /media/usb/<...>
22:19.57MohammadAGah, k
22:20.11MohammadAGthough mounting to /media/UUID would be better imo
22:20.24MohammadAGsince that'd show them in the stock file manager
22:22.33Pali/media/usb/<> is showed correctly in file manager :-)
22:22.41Palibecause it worked in diablo
22:23.02Paliand ke-recv code was only commented
22:24.01MohammadAGah
22:24.13freemangordonMohammadAG, merlin1991, should we agree on "push .debs on $RANDOM repo" meeting?
22:24.26MohammadAG$RANDOM what?
22:24.31freemangordon:D
22:24.50freemangordona repo for pre-release .debs, so we can test them
22:27.14MohammadAGoh, nice
22:27.25MohammadAGdidn't we ask x-fade for a community-devel?
22:27.36freemangordonNFC
22:27.44merlin1991didn't we ask x-fade for co maintainership?
22:27.44MohammadAGis X-Fade even alive here?
22:27.53freemangordonanyway, don't think it will happen
22:27.55merlin1991he apporved the garage page within a day :D
22:28.14merlin1991also with a community-devel we'd have the same problem with 1 user only again
22:28.22freemangordon:nod:
22:30.41freemangordonso?
22:31.36merlin1991on my todo :D
22:31.44freemangordon:D
22:34.25MohammadAGmerlin1991, or just have a shared user :P
22:34.35MohammadAGbut yeah, a separate repo would also work
22:34.44merlin1991shared users are evil
22:34.44MohammadAGjust please, don't use devel's 30 minute style
22:34.52MohammadAGuse some inotify kernel event
22:35.42MohammadAGor a red button
22:36.17merlin1991big red button tied to shutdown -h 0 ? :D
22:36.53Raimu-X:D
22:37.28MohammadAGmake it say kill all humans
23:24.21Palifreemangordon, ke-recv VFAT is implemented
23:24.45Palimerlin1991, see ^^^^
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23:26.07Palitested, and seems working fine
23:26.41Palimerlin1991, add also ke-recv (changes pushed to git now) to -testing
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23:27.38freemangordonPali, good for you :)
23:29.21Paliand I fixed problem with unmounting usb mass storage devices
23:29.44Palike-recv could crash without my fix
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