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| 11:39.50 | gri | Is there a way of getting a newer QtMobility version into Maemo5? If you don't plan so, I can't port my app back and leave it out :) |
| 11:45.09 | xmlich02 | gri, cssu update contains newer version of qt mobility than standard pr1.3 version |
| 11:45.59 | gri | xmlich02: Yes, but even that is too old :( I need to QtMobility.contacts 1.1 declarative module and cssu has 1.0 (which has no filter elements) |
| 11:47.42 | xmlich02 | oh i see. From my point of view, is bigger problem, that the non-cssu version contains older version of qt-components and qt mobility |
| 11:48.30 | gri | Well the non-cssu version is non usable for me :) I want to port my harmattan app back without changing much of the qml code |
| 11:48.53 | gri | on the c++ side I have a lot of changes for maemo5 but in qml I don't have much choice |
| 11:52.20 | xmlich02 | I have the same problem. I am not sure how to create package, which requires (asks for) cssu installation |
| 12:02.15 | xmlich02 | I was also trying to port of my application from harmattan, but I am not sure how to create this package to be possible publish it via ovi store |
| 12:02.39 | gri | I think this is not possible |
| 12:04.18 | gri | Mine runs (except of the mobility contacts thingy) but a lot of images are missing |
| 12:16.21 | gri | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iibDChIvBaw it atleast runs somehow :) |
| 12:19.30 | Lava_Croft | i never get tired of watching n900s |
| 12:19.34 | Lava_Croft | <3 |
| 12:57.54 | xmlich02 | gri, very nice application, i like it |
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| 15:04.02 | merlin1991 | gri: is QtMobility tied to the qt version directly? |
| 15:04.11 | merlin1991 | because afaik it isn't so we should be able todo so |
| 15:05.35 | merlin1991 | ah yeah just found it, mobility is a seperate package |
| 15:05.49 | merlin1991 | gri: what parts were you missing in QtMoblility? |
| 15:13.13 | gri | merlin1991: QtMobility.contacts 1.1 |
| 15:13.24 | gri | all others are fine |
| 15:13.35 | merlin1991 | I'll write updateing QtMoblility onto my todo list |
| 15:14.00 | gri | It's just the declarative api, the c++ version is there from 1.0 |
| 15:20.33 | freemangordon | Anyone has tried to build a new clutter version? |
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| 15:53.18 | gri | merlin1991: QtMultimediaKit 1.1 would also be great (I think that belongs to mobility) |
| 16:04.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991, I requested a merge of patch to remove zoom (along with other goodies) to arcean's repo. |
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| 18:23.05 | amiconn | wonders what gri's app is about |
| 18:23.50 | gri | amiconn: Kind of replacement for the harmattan stock messaging application (but it sends the messages via internet sms providers) |
| 18:24.11 | amiconn | Hmm |
| 18:24.20 | amiconn | doesn't know harmattan, just maemo |
| 18:26.38 | gri | well it exists for maemo but there it is a simple application |
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| 20:46.03 | Pali | ping merlin1991 MohammadAG |
| 20:46.20 | MohammadAG | pong |
| 20:46.57 | Pali | I fixed problem with osso-xterm to support scrolling back to the first line for applications like apt-get update |
| 20:46.57 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-osso-xterm/commit/666b0bd6b227a3e2e01f26eadc01c43e48f253a5 |
| 20:47.21 | Pali | when some app writing output every 1s it is impossible to scroll back to the first line |
| 20:48.02 | Pali | my patch change behaviour of autoscrolling: autoscroll only if is vissible last bottom line |
| 20:49.11 | Pali | and I found problem why terminal show a lot of empty lines if autorotation is enabled |
| 20:49.26 | Pali | problem is not in terminal but in busybox shell :-( |
| 20:49.35 | Pali | bash working fine without problem |
| 20:50.31 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, it is possible to use default shell bash (in CSSU)? |
| 20:51.08 | Pali | busybox is really buggy, and this bug is for me enought! |
| 20:52.09 | MohammadAG | no, boot up scripts would break |
| 20:52.34 | MohammadAG | so unless someone has the time to go over all the scripts that'd break and fix those, then push a diff that would be applied in a package, no |
| 20:54.12 | DocScrutinizer | that's been correct for pre-1.2 |
| 20:54.28 | DocScrutinizer | AFAIK nobody tested it since OR1.2 |
| 20:54.31 | DocScrutinizer | PR* |
| 20:55.13 | Pali | and updating busybox? |
| 20:55.18 | DocScrutinizer | actually it's not the shell but the unix toolbox that init scripts blow chunks on |
| 20:56.01 | DocScrutinizer | so installing and even using in init a proper bash shall be safe, as long as you don't replace a few particular tools |
| 20:56.24 | DocScrutinizer | dunno if it's been ls, mount, find, or whatever else |
| 20:57.32 | DocScrutinizer | we analyzed it down to a few places in init scripts, but that'S like more than a year ago |
| 20:57.37 | DocScrutinizer | I can't recall |
| 20:58.00 | MohammadAG | Updating busybox shouldn't hurt I guess? |
| 20:59.48 | Pali | and busybox-power? |
| 21:07.32 | DocScrutinizer | I'd rather install proper bash and tools for interactive usage, while keeping standard messybox for init |
| 21:09.06 | DocScrutinizer | I got exactly this setup since .... meh dunno, long time |
| 21:09.25 | DocScrutinizer | updating busybox seems more risky than that |
| 21:10.07 | DocScrutinizer | just install all the bash and toolbox binaries to /home |
| 21:10.31 | DocScrutinizer | so no real reason why you would want to remove messybox at all |
| 21:12.08 | DocScrutinizer | actually messybox is bloatware, when you consider it installs a lot of functionality to / that's not really needed during boot time, prior to mount /home |
| 21:13.43 | DocScrutinizer | but well, Nokia did an abysmally poor job on system maintenance, when it comes to proper setup of /[s]bin vs /usr/[s]bin and optification etc |
| 21:17.58 | DocScrutinizer | actually it seems to me like they threw dice to decide what goes to /sbin and what to /usr/sbin |
| 21:19.20 | DocScrutinizer | really disgusting |
| 21:19.49 | DocScrutinizer | since I haven't invoked it in a time: |
| 21:19.53 | DocScrutinizer | ~optification |
| 21:19.53 | infobot | optification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR, http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish they looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3" |
| 21:21.34 | DocScrutinizer | of course we *could* sanitize all this mess in CSSU, but I doubt it will buy us fame |
| 21:24.20 | DocScrutinizer | ~ # bash |
| 21:24.22 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# echo $PATH |
| 21:24.23 | DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin/gnu:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
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| 21:25.30 | DocScrutinizer | IroN900:~# exit |
| 21:25.32 | DocScrutinizer | ~ # echo $PATH |
| 21:25.33 | DocScrutinizer | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
| 21:27.20 | MohammadAG | not that we want fame... |
| 21:27.50 | DocScrutinizer | ~ # cat .bashrc |
| 21:27.52 | DocScrutinizer | # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for interactive shells. |
| 21:27.53 | DocScrutinizer | #PATH=/usr/bin/gnu:$PATH |
| 21:27.55 | DocScrutinizer | PATH=$(echo $PATH|sed "s.:/usr/bin:.:/usr/bin/gnu:/usr/bin:.;s.:/usr/sbin:.:/usr/sbin/gnu:/usr/sbin:.") |
| 21:27.56 | DocScrutinizer | export PATH |
| 21:28.40 | DocScrutinizer | ... |
| 21:28.43 | DocScrutinizer | ~ # cat .profile |
| 21:28.45 | DocScrutinizer | # ~/.profile: executed by Bourne-compatible login shells. |
| 21:28.46 | DocScrutinizer | PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
| 21:28.48 | DocScrutinizer | export PATH |
| 21:28.49 | DocScrutinizer | if [ -f ~/.bashrc -a -n "$BASH" ]; then |
| 21:28.51 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.52 | DocScrutinizer | fi |
| 21:31.06 | DocScrutinizer | this is for ROOT! |
| 21:31.23 | DocScrutinizer | will break things when you apply these changes to user |
| 21:46.30 | DocScrutinizer | of course you can kick out the *IDIOTIC* lines >>if [ -f ~/.bashrc -a -n "$BASH" ]; then ~/.bashrc; fi<< and thus forbid messybox to source .bashrc. |
| 21:46.43 | DocScrutinizer | which should make the whole thing safe for user as well |
| 21:46.57 | DocScrutinizer | basg will source .bashrc anyway |
| 21:47.01 | DocScrutinizer | bash* |
| 21:47.44 | DocScrutinizer | some gashead inserted the lines above to .profile, to make messybox behave like bash a bit more :-(( |
| 21:50.01 | DocScrutinizer | anyway, init doesn't break on installing bash, and it doesn't break on installing unix toolbox. It breaks on *user* not running messybox tools in boot |
| 21:50.54 | DocScrutinizer | your bootloop needs bash installed, set up as default shell in /etc/passwd, and defined as valid shell in /etc/shells |
| 21:51.17 | DocScrutinizer | your bootloop needs bash installed, set up as *user's* default shell in /etc/passwd, and defined as valid shell in /etc/shells |
| 21:51.46 | DocScrutinizer | so it's probably not even initscripts but xsession that kills boot |
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