| 00:15.33 | SpacedOut | merlin1991: Qt .tar.gz isn't available only qt4-x11_4.7.4~git20110505+cssu6.dsc so you can't apt-get source and build it for x86-32. |
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| 12:15.05 | merlin1991 | SpacedOut: yeah qt you have to build either from gitorious |
| 12:15.08 | merlin1991 | or from -stable |
| 12:15.15 | merlin1991 | (stable includes the qt sources |
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| 17:52.43 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: 'ting today? |
| 17:53.11 | DocScrutinizer | OOOH *bug*'ting |
| 17:53.26 | merlin1991 | see topic :D |
| 17:53.35 | merlin1991 | 3 hrs to go :D |
| 17:53.52 | DocScrutinizer | what's with "fixed" ke-recv and mountscripts? go to T? |
| 17:54.22 | merlin1991 | that's for after the bugmeeting |
| 17:54.29 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 17:54.45 | DocScrutinizer | anyway please put it on whatever-2do-list |
| 17:55.28 | DocScrutinizer | so we don't forget about it |
| 17:55.41 | DocScrutinizer | who created this? Pali ? |
| 17:55.59 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: ping |
| 17:56.32 | Pali | I fixed ke-recv for proper automounting |
| 17:57.33 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 17:57.50 | DocScrutinizer | we prolly want to get that into T, no? |
| 17:58.22 | Pali | We need it :-) |
| 17:59.21 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, for automounting usb hdd in host mode is needed kernel-power pre v50 |
| 18:00.14 | Pali | there was bug (in kernel usb host mode) which does not send event about host mode state and HAL does not see correct musb state |
| 18:00.36 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 18:01.13 | DocScrutinizer | anyway that's kernel domain, we still have no CSSU kernel (and won't get that any time soon, if I'm to decide on it) |
| 18:02.09 | Pali | ok, I only wrote this info, because you (and propably other people) could write me that ke-recv does not working in host mode.... |
| 18:02.12 | DocScrutinizer | a compatible bugfixed/augmented ke-recv however is sth we probably want in CSSU, as it perfectly meets the definition for things we get there and not any other way |
| 18:04.05 | DocScrutinizer | Pali: you may want to add an according note to wherever the docs/readme/changenotes for your fixed ke-recv reside |
| 18:04.37 | Pali | to debian/changelog? |
| 18:05.03 | Pali | also it can fix bug 7153 |
| 18:05.05 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/7153 Built-in MMC scripts only support FAT-formatted |
| 18:05.58 | DocScrutinizer | "ke-recv work by listening to kernel event nozifications. Due to a flaw in stock kernel and PK up to v49 those event notifications are not sent by kernel for USB attach events..." something like that |
| 18:06.28 | Pali | ke-recv listening to HAL :-) not to kernel |
| 18:06.36 | DocScrutinizer | whatever |
| 18:06.47 | DocScrutinizer | explain it, and we're all happy :-D |
| 18:06.58 | Pali | where to write this info? |
| 18:07.25 | DocScrutinizer | as mentioned above, probably to README.txt in gitorious |
| 18:07.50 | Pali | ok |
| 18:07.52 | DocScrutinizer | or even changelog, whatever fits better |
| 18:08.23 | Pali | it is already in commit message: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/commit/fef71c1f8acd49fcc780804e603e8d336fffbbdd |
| 18:09.28 | DocScrutinizer | great |
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| 18:20.25 | DocScrutinizer | bbl, off for brinner & tea-with-rum (fight the flu ;-D) |
| 18:21.02 | DocScrutinizer | umm, 21UTC == 22CET, right? |
| 18:22.52 | DocScrutinizer | o/ |
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| 18:31.46 | merlin1991 | yep right |
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| 18:41.37 | freemangordon_ | it is 23 local :-( |
| 18:42.54 | merlin1991 | well if everyone is here we can start earlier |
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| 18:47.17 | merlin1991 | arcean: do you think the fixed hildon-home is ready for a merge request? |
| 18:47.36 | arcean | the fixed h-home? |
| 18:47.49 | arcean | you mean the one with fixed wallpaper sets? |
| 18:48.33 | merlin1991 | yep |
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| 18:50.52 | arcean | hmm, I will create a MR during a weekend |
| 18:51.24 | arcean | at least it's stable enough to include it into testing |
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| 18:56.24 | freemangordon | arcean, I've done some modifications to h-d on top of your repo, still not complete though, will you please wait me until I finish and do a MR |
| 18:56.47 | arcean | freemangordon, ok |
| 18:57.22 | freemangordon | some fixes to task manager (aspect ration for landscape apps in portrait, stuff like that) |
| 18:57.36 | freemangordon | thanks |
| 18:57.41 | arcean | about portrait lock - there's a problem with Qt apps |
| 18:58.43 | arcean | when the forcedrotation is switched off, the portrait lock is simply not working |
| 18:58.57 | freemangordon | arcean, yeah, you told me, but despite, lets put everything on main repo, will fix QT afterwards. I think it will be very easy to change Qt to listen to new dbus signals |
| 19:00.00 | freemangordon | BTW I nad an idea - is it possible to change mce orientation signals, to trick the closed source apps? |
| 19:00.06 | freemangordon | *had |
| 19:00.47 | freemangordon | and write another daemon which emits them under h-d control. |
| 19:03.05 | merlin1991 | wtf |
| 19:03.10 | merlin1991 | why write another deamon |
| 19:03.22 | merlin1991 | h-d is already listening to them to manage app state |
| 19:03.41 | merlin1991 | would only make sense to have h-d listen to changed signals and emit the proper ones himself |
| 19:03.47 | freemangordon | sure, but there are apps (browser for example), which listen directly to mce |
| 19:04.10 | freemangordon | completely ignoring h-d |
| 19:04.56 | merlin1991 | like I said |
| 19:05.04 | merlin1991 | swap mce output |
| 19:05.12 | merlin1991 | listend to swapped and emit old outpot from h-d |
| 19:06.11 | freemangordon | swap? |
| 19:07.19 | freemangordon | hmm, maybe we are talking for one and the same thing (axcluding the daemon :) ) |
| 19:07.53 | freemangordon | yeah, another deamon is not really needed. |
| 19:10.18 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 19:10.33 | merlin1991 | we meant the same thing only I meant that there is no need for yet another deamon |
| 19:11.07 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 19:24.27 | Pali | other option would be to understad MCE and port open source harmattan MCE to maemo5 :-) |
| 19:24.58 | Pali | and here implement other dbus signal |
| 19:25.04 | arcean | hehe yeah :) |
| 19:44.41 | merlin1991 | okay who's here (except for pali who timed out) |
| 19:45.55 | freemangordon | I am |
| 19:46.46 | arcean | I'm here too |
| 19:52.02 | freemangordon | merlin1991, and who is expected to be here? |
| 19:52.27 | merlin1991 | doc, pali, arcean, mag, andrew you and me |
| 19:53.38 | merlin1991 | though they are all expected to be here in one hour |
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| 19:56.11 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 20:03.18 | merlin1991 | Sc0rpius: ping |
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| 21:01.12 | andre__ | IRC meeting? or so? |
| 21:02.13 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 21:02.14 | merlin1991 | now |
| 21:02.18 | merlin1991 | okay who's here |
| 21:02.21 | freemangordon | merlin1991, ping |
| 21:02.24 | freemangordon | oops |
| 21:02.26 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 21:02.53 | freemangordon | do we have an agenda? |
| 21:02.57 | merlin1991 | arcean_, DocScrutinizer, Sc0rpius ping |
| 21:03.04 | merlin1991 | agenda is |
| 21:03.12 | andre__ | are we here or are we in #maemo-meeting? I assume here? |
| 21:03.15 | merlin1991 | announce bug # and check if already fixed or not |
| 21:03.17 | andre__ | just made it to the hotel in time, yay |
| 21:03.18 | merlin1991 | in here simply |
| 21:03.22 | arcean_ | merlin1991, pong |
| 21:03.22 | andre__ | k |
| 21:03.42 | DocScrutinizer | AYE SIR |
| 21:03.44 | merlin1991 | I wanted to have this mainly to filter out all the bugs that are already fixed but still on the tracker |
| 21:03.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991, you mean from the bugtracker? |
| 21:03.55 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 21:03.58 | freemangordon | ok |
| 21:04.52 | merlin1991 | first bug in question is bug 11990 |
| 21:04.54 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11990 resize patch against PR1.3 hildon-home |
| 21:05.55 | merlin1991 | arcean_: could you look into that? |
| 21:05.56 | andre__ | errm, well, the complete list (including enhancement requests) would be this actually: https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&product=Maemo%205%20Community%20SSU |
| 21:06.04 | DocScrutinizer | idly wonders if mohammad still is anyhow relevant for this project |
| 21:06.22 | merlin1991 | andre__: we can filter out a lot of the list for now |
| 21:06.25 | arcean_ | merlin1991, patch was removed from testing some time ago, introduced a bunch of bugs |
| 21:07.05 | merlin1991 | what was the outcome back then, wontfix or needswork? |
| 21:07.08 | DocScrutinizer | andre__: many thanks |
| 21:07.24 | andre__ | merlin1991: sharing the list that we talk about here is nice so everybody could get an overview and take a look at issues, not only once their numbers have been posted here |
| 21:07.36 | merlin1991 | andre__: the list is in the /topic |
| 21:07.39 | merlin1991 | thought everyone knew that |
| 21:07.53 | DocScrutinizer | err wut? |
| 21:08.05 | merlin1991 | | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | |
| 21:08.11 | DocScrutinizer | aah, k |
| 21:08.18 | andre__ | eeks. thanks. |
| 21:08.56 | merlin1991 | arcean_: so whataobut the patch was it ever decided if we fix it? |
| 21:09.25 | arcean_ | merlin1991, AFAIK no |
| 21:09.44 | merlin1991 | do you want to work on it? |
| 21:09.56 | arcean_ | merlin1991, those patches are a bit "hackish" |
| 21:09.57 | merlin1991 | otherwise I think it is a wontfix since the attached patch is faulty |
| 21:10.06 | freemangordon | merlin1991, that is another cosmetic change to h-d, lets first finish what is not finished, WONTFIX if you ask me |
| 21:10.09 | arcean_ | merlin1991, sure, I can take a look |
| 21:10.36 | merlin1991 | arcean_: if you want to look into it otherwise I would say wontfix |
| 21:11.15 | DocScrutinizer | wtf?! this new login "function" in tracker sucks. How's my browser supposed to keep the auto-texts for each single bug page? |
| 21:11.17 | merlin1991 | anybody else is also welcome to hack on it, but afaik arcean knows most about h-d :D |
| 21:12.32 | freemangordon | well, change the status then to needswork (or whatever appropriate) and lets move on |
| 21:13.12 | merlin1991 | okay next one is #11993 |
| 21:13.31 | merlin1991 | bug #11993 |
| 21:13.32 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11993 Mangling email addresses containing accented characters when replying |
| 21:13.52 | merlin1991 | I don't even know what the current state in cssu is |
| 21:16.09 | merlin1991 | I guees needinfo |
| 21:16.14 | freemangordon | someone with accented characters on his keyboard shoud try it, but cyrillic WMF, should be no difference |
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| 21:17.21 | merlin1991 | next up is bug #12011 |
| 21:17.22 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12011 Tactile feedback when the phone secures itself |
| 21:17.28 | merlin1991 | I think that one should go into enhancement |
| 21:18.13 | merlin1991 | if anything it has to be reassigned against the tactile package in extras-devel |
| 21:18.59 | DocScrutinizer | 11993 sounds like a different flavour of the xchat DOS attack with rogue string |
| 21:19.22 | merlin1991 | you think it might be related to gtk? |
| 21:19.27 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 21:19.43 | DocScrutinizer | a guts feeling |
| 21:19.48 | DocScrutinizer | too similar |
| 21:19.58 | merlin1991 | bug #12030 |
| 21:19.58 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12030 Visual artefacts with hildon-menu rotation |
| 21:20.18 | merlin1991 | is a worksforme for me, please check so I know I'm not the only one |
| 21:20.27 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: NFC if modest even uses gtk at all |
| 21:21.42 | arcean_ | merlin1991, #12030, it's related to lack of blur effect |
| 21:23.26 | arcean_ | some people use desaturation instead of the blur |
| 21:23.53 | freemangordon | and it seems desaturation is the reason |
| 21:24.25 | arcean_ | yep |
| 21:25.16 | freemangordon | merlin1991, better close that as INVALID/WONTFIX, report is one year old, the author is not in CC list, the bug report is incomplete |
| 21:25.41 | merlin1991 | arcean_: do you think it is fixable easily? |
| 21:26.45 | arcean_ | merlin1991, it's how it was designed |
| 21:26.59 | merlin1991 | so a wontfix? |
| 21:26.59 | DocScrutinizer | LOL |
| 21:27.11 | andre__ | freemangordon: what do you mean by "author is not in CC list"? |
| 21:27.17 | freemangordon | yep |
| 21:27.29 | freemangordon | CC List: 0 users (show) |
| 21:27.40 | arcean_ | each menu/task manager view zooms out wallpaper |
| 21:27.45 | DocScrutinizer | afk 3min |
| 21:27.51 | andre__ | freemangordon, that's a non argument |
| 21:28.00 | andre__ | freemangordon, reporter still receives bugmail as reporter. |
| 21:28.23 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 21:28.25 | andre__ | if you mean author = software writer that's a different argument though :P |
| 21:28.39 | freemangordon | I meant the author |
| 21:28.46 | freemangordon | of the bug report |
| 21:29.19 | freemangordon | Anyway the bug in question is INVALID for me |
| 21:29.37 | merlin1991 | arcean_: so is it a wontfix? |
| 21:29.47 | arcean_ | merlin1991, I think so |
| 21:29.51 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 21:30.17 | merlin1991 | bug #12031 |
| 21:30.18 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12031 Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far |
| 21:30.45 | arcean_ | heh, I can reproduce this :) |
| 21:30.58 | merlin1991 | actually I'm in favour of removing that zoom feature from the codebase, it does nothing (screen is neither panable nor useable in zoomed state) but has bugs |
| 21:31.12 | freemangordon | agree |
| 21:32.01 | freemangordon | I'll try to do that |
| 21:32.09 | freemangordon | assign it to me |
| 21:32.26 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: it got introduced by mag I think so it should be a matter of tracking down a commit |
| 21:32.40 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: +1 |
| 21:32.59 | merlin1991 | arcean_, andre__ thoughts about removing zoom altogether? |
| 21:33.10 | freemangordon | well, then it is better to ask MAG to remove it |
| 21:33.31 | merlin1991 | I don't think he has the time |
| 21:33.52 | DocScrutinizer | I repeat my prev question |
| 21:33.59 | freemangordon | ok, then I will remove it if everyone agree |
| 21:34.00 | DocScrutinizer | idly wonders if mohammad still is anyhow relevant for this project |
| 21:34.01 | arcean_ | merlin1991, let's remove it |
| 21:34.46 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, agree, but lets not discuss that now |
| 21:34.53 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 21:35.03 | merlin1991 | andre__: when I want to assign a bug to a bugtracker user, can I somehow get a list of them? |
| 21:35.12 | merlin1991 | or do I have to knew the email addreses? |
| 21:35.50 | merlin1991 | okay next up is bug #12047 |
| 21:35.51 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12047 no more charging battery notification when phone is on |
| 21:35.53 | freemangordon | merlin1991, do you have account on garage? |
| 21:35.58 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 21:36.12 | DocScrutinizer | (12031) it's a nice feature, if only it was implemented in a correct and comprehensive way |
| 21:36.18 | freemangordon | because it have a nice project/team management interface |
| 21:36.39 | DocScrutinizer | so don't nuke it, just exclude it from current releases until it riped some more |
| 21:36.55 | freemangordon | could we use it for tasks assigment? |
| 21:37.15 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I never thought about that :D |
| 21:37.36 | DocScrutinizer | WTF 12047?? |
| 21:37.40 | merlin1991 | we'd need a cssu projekt in there first though, so I leave that as an exercise for the furute |
| 21:37.59 | freemangordon | merlin1991 I think it could be very useful. |
| 21:38.11 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 21:38.27 | merlin1991 | but just like the question of mag currantly out of scope ;) |
| 21:38.49 | DocScrutinizer | BS, 12047 INVALID |
| 21:38.50 | andre__ | not sure if I understand the bug in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12031 at least I cannot reproduce here... |
| 21:38.53 | povbot | Bug 12031: Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far |
| 21:38.56 | andre__ | merlin1991, you cannot easily get a list, no |
| 21:39.12 | merlin1991 | andre__: actually I can't reproduce either |
| 21:39.17 | andre__ | merlin1991, but you can type part of a name and it offers you an autocomplete list then |
| 21:39.28 | andre__ | merlin1991, then let's close if two people cannot reproduce. I'm running testing by the way |
| 21:39.37 | freemangordon | it should be ctrl-shift-f |
| 21:39.40 | merlin1991 | got stable and testing in front of me :D |
| 21:39.42 | andre__ | merlin1991, and if there is only one user matching it will take that one automatically |
| 21:39.55 | DocScrutinizer | amber charge notification NEVER was enabled when screen on |
| 21:40.00 | freemangordon | and I can reproduce it |
| 21:40.05 | DocScrutinizer | close INVALID please |
| 21:40.07 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, agree |
| 21:40.59 | merlin1991 | yep invalid |
| 21:41.04 | DocScrutinizer | tnx |
| 21:41.35 | freemangordon | andre__, merlin1991, let me first remove redundant code before closing 12031 |
| 21:41.52 | merlin1991 | btw andre__ I'm writing a list here as we go and will change the bugs afterwards |
| 21:42.00 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: will do |
| 21:42.10 | freemangordon | ok, afk for a cigarrete |
| 21:42.24 | DocScrutinizer | I seem to recall I posted to tmo a hack to edit mce init so it shows charging-ind with screen on |
| 21:42.44 | merlin1991 | okay next up bug #12052 |
| 21:42.44 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12052 Orientation lock causes incoming call to not display properly |
| 21:42.59 | merlin1991 | wontfix due to closed source phone app I think |
| 21:43.03 | arcean_ | merlin1991, without fixing Qt, it's wontfix |
| 21:43.05 | DocScrutinizer | can't comment on that one |
| 21:43.08 | DocScrutinizer | ;-) |
| 21:43.15 | merlin1991 | yeah better not ;) |
| 21:43.16 | arcean_ | merlin1991, we can fix it, with properly modifief qt |
| 21:43.49 | DocScrutinizer | of course except WFM with may-rotate=no |
| 21:43.53 | arcean_ | it's the same problem as with portrait orientation lock and Qt apps |
| 21:44.03 | merlin1991 | is it really qt that is the problem or is it the phone app that listens to mce directly? |
| 21:44.24 | arcean_ | merlin1991, we can override mce in h-d |
| 21:44.29 | DocScrutinizer | I'd guess the latter |
| 21:44.33 | arcean_ | but Qt should listen to h-d |
| 21:44.53 | merlin1991 | but the phone still rotates regardless of the lock |
| 21:44.56 | arcean_ | in September i have poc |
| 21:44.59 | merlin1991 | only the buttons are fsckd |
| 21:45.06 | arcean_ | *have had |
| 21:45.24 | DocScrutinizer | dialer not Qt?? |
| 21:45.42 | merlin1991 | so is it actually the qt problem or a dialer specific problem? |
| 21:45.51 | merlin1991 | because if it's qt it should be new, otherwise wontfix |
| 21:45.58 | DocScrutinizer | so how's dialer problem related to Qt anyway? |
| 21:46.00 | arcean_ | the problem is |
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| 21:46.33 | arcean_ | every app which requests portrait mode will stay in portrait despite of landscape lock |
| 21:47.24 | merlin1991 | anybody with -testing who can do a quick check if it really stays? |
| 21:47.38 | merlin1991 | because I remember that if you turned the phone it "rotated" |
| 21:47.48 | arcean_ | maybe another way, we should lock to landscape only those apps which are not working ONLY in portrait |
| 21:48.07 | arcean_ | and the problem is with Qt |
| 21:48.17 | freemangordon | well, the phone app stays in landscape here |
| 21:48.27 | arcean_ | Qt apps in portrait have REQUEST and SUPPORT portrait flags |
| 21:48.37 | arcean_ | in landscape both flags are removed |
| 21:48.44 | freemangordon | arcean_, leave Qt for a while please, it is another beer |
| 21:48.47 | merlin1991 | arcean_: I still think the phone app was different |
| 21:48.52 | merlin1991 | as in not qt related |
| 21:48.56 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 21:49.08 | arcean_ | so h-d can check if the window has REQUEST flag, and leave it in portrait ddespite landscape lock |
| 21:49.19 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I git that gconf setting gui-may-rotate=false, and dialer set to portrait-always, and it only rotates to landscape when I open kbd slider, and WFM |
| 21:49.32 | DocScrutinizer | s/git/got/ |
| 21:49.35 | freemangordon | arcean_, your latest h-d leaves phone app in landskape if locked |
| 21:49.53 | merlin1991 | but one button is missing afaik |
| 21:50.11 | merlin1991 | depending if it really is in landscape or if it is in portrait (the phone) |
| 21:50.23 | arcean_ | freemangordon, nah, i'm not talking about this |
| 21:50.37 | merlin1991 | but we are :D |
| 21:50.45 | freemangordon | yeah, :D |
| 21:51.07 | merlin1991 | so back to the dialer then, is that missing button something we can actually fix? |
| 21:51.10 | arcean_ | what i'm talking about: we SHOULD lock to landscape only those apps which are not requesting protrait mode |
| 21:51.53 | arcean_ | so, if dialer is set to run in portrait only, it will show in portrait |
| 21:52.06 | DocScrutinizer | it does for me |
| 21:52.08 | arcean_ | and the bug will be somehow fixed |
| 21:52.31 | freemangordon | well, my dialer is set to portrait only, and stays in landscape when locked |
| 21:52.58 | DocScrutinizer | I never use that friggin lock, I got gui-may-rotate=no |
| 21:53.07 | arcean_ | freemangordon, yes, it's locked to landscape despite of REQUEST flag |
| 21:53.14 | merlin1991 | basically I'm asking, confirmed(NEW) or WONTFIX |
| 21:53.15 | arcean_ | which should be changed |
| 21:53.38 | DocScrutinizer | wontfix is a nogo |
| 21:53.42 | merlin1991 | new then |
| 21:53.43 | freemangordon | arcean_, why? This is the purpose of the lock. |
| 21:54.17 | arcean_ | freemangordon, why would you like to lock to landscape app which runs only in portrait? |
| 21:54.24 | freemangordon | if you don't want apps to remain in only one direction, don't use the lock. |
| 21:54.27 | DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: then the specs for the lock are flawed |
| 21:54.48 | merlin1991 | lock should be reworked but we try to go over the buglist atm, so please lets get back to that |
| 21:54.53 | DocScrutinizer | first rule of CSSU: stay compatible |
| 21:55.07 | arcean_ | in my opinion orientation lock should check if the window requests portrait mode or not |
| 21:55.18 | DocScrutinizer | so if dialer doesn't obey to lock, you have to implement your lock in a way it doesn't conflict with dialer |
| 21:55.21 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, without the lock we are compatible, that is a new functionality |
| 21:55.48 | freemangordon | But it does not, it behaves as if the keyboard is open |
| 21:56.00 | merlin1991 | there are quite a few more bugs, can we move the whole discussion to a later point like tomorrow? |
| 21:56.04 | freemangordon | and that is ok for me |
| 21:56.05 | DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: where does CSSU "quality is paramount importance" say "new functionality may have bugs" |
| 21:56.07 | DocScrutinizer | ? |
| 21:56.11 | andre__ | sorry, I really got to go now, but I'll check the backlog :-( |
| 21:56.18 | merlin1991 | bb andre__ |
| 21:56.23 | DocScrutinizer | cya |
| 21:56.38 | merlin1991 | I hoped you'd be still around when the security bugs come up you made |
| 21:56.55 | arcean_ | merlin1991, I would say "confirmed" |
| 21:57.12 | merlin1991 | k confirmed, next up bug #12056 |
| 21:57.13 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12056 modest cant't write new messages with Nokia Messaging |
| 21:57.21 | merlin1991 | wasn't nokia messaging closed? |
| 21:57.28 | merlin1991 | darkly remembers something |
| 21:57.33 | merlin1991 | but I never used nokia messaging |
| 21:58.01 | freemangordon | NFC what is that |
| 21:58.16 | DocScrutinizer | close as WUT????? |
| 21:58.24 | DocScrutinizer | ;-) |
| 21:58.58 | merlin1991 | nobody who heard of it? :D |
| 21:59.03 | merlin1991 | needinfo / wut then |
| 21:59.05 | arcean_ | I remember Sc0rpius saying it's closed |
| 21:59.27 | merlin1991 | btw anybody got an email of Sc0rpius |
| 21:59.35 | merlin1991 | he's online all the time but never responds |
| 22:00.00 | DocScrutinizer | npe |
| 22:00.10 | freemangordon | he has an account on TMO, can't remember it though |
| 22:00.45 | DocScrutinizer | ~seen Sc0rpius |
| 22:00.59 | infobot | sc0rpius is currently on #maemo (17h 12m 57s) #maemo-ssu (17h 12m 57s), last said: 'well /sbin should be in root's PATH'. |
| 22:01.16 | freemangordon | merlin1991, needinfo and lets move on |
| 22:01.21 | merlin1991 | okay next up then bug #12092 |
| 22:01.22 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12092 Applications list rotates to portrait with forced rotation after installing an application |
| 22:01.36 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, I should ask Tim to implement a $when for "last said:" |
| 22:02.32 | merlin1991 | tries to reproduce |
| 22:03.23 | merlin1991 | also shakes fist @ ham, speed up |
| 22:03.32 | DocScrutinizer | tries to understand |
| 22:03.45 | freemangordon | BTW why is HAM so slow? |
| 22:03.56 | merlin1991 | nfc |
| 22:04.02 | DocScrutinizer | it's not much slower than apt itself |
| 22:04.09 | freemangordon | it is |
| 22:04.47 | DocScrutinizer | building that immense list of icons+description takes a while I guess |
| 22:05.09 | merlin1991 | hm can't reproduce the bug |
| 22:05.09 | DocScrutinizer | and it's redoing this every moment |
| 22:05.24 | DocScrutinizer | CANT-DUPLICATE then |
| 22:05.34 | freemangordon | no, FIXED |
| 22:05.41 | DocScrutinizer | mhm |
| 22:05.42 | merlin1991 | I'd say worksforme |
| 22:05.44 | DocScrutinizer | whatever |
| 22:05.47 | DocScrutinizer | WFM |
| 22:05.49 | DocScrutinizer | yeah |
| 22:05.53 | freemangordon | but don't ask me for the commit :) |
| 22:06.10 | DocScrutinizer | pff, I have a hard time to understand the bug |
| 22:06.41 | freemangordon | no, FIXED, there was a lot of crap in h-d re orientations |
| 22:06.52 | freemangordon | ask arcean_ if don't trust me :D |
| 22:07.17 | merlin1991 | since we don't know the commit I'd call it a worksforme with a comment of should have been fix in h-d at some point |
| 22:07.19 | arcean_ | freemangordon, i have never heard about #12092 :D |
| 22:08.13 | merlin1991 | okay bug #12125 |
| 22:08.14 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12125 SPB Brain Evolution fails to start |
| 22:08.17 | freemangordon | I mean that algorithm in ...renderer... for decision whether to rotate or not had flaws in early portrait days. |
| 22:08.22 | arcean_ | haha |
| 22:08.24 | merlin1991 | invalid wtf is even spb brainevolution?? |
| 22:08.57 | arcean_ | merlin1991, it's related to the first attempt to update Qt in testing |
| 22:08.58 | freemangordon | is that Qt? |
| 22:09.26 | merlin1991 | so I guess I'll check if it works now and make it an worksforme |
| 22:09.34 | DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: trust *YOU*??! you're kidding ;-P |
| 22:09.44 | freemangordon | :D |
| 22:10.12 | freemangordon | merlin1991, there was several fixes in Qt for segfault on app start |
| 22:10.34 | merlin1991 | I'll check with the app in question |
| 22:10.37 | merlin1991 | next up bug #12141 |
| 22:10.39 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12141 CSSU Not enough space problem false positive |
| 22:10.56 | freemangordon | so if it is Qt, mark it as fixed |
| 22:10.56 | freemangordon | hmm, seems not Qt |
| 22:11.00 | DocScrutinizer | my brain reached top of evolutionary state |
| 22:11.07 | DocScrutinizer | so close as WTF? |
| 22:11.18 | freemangordon | Pali? |
| 22:11.48 | freemangordon | I think his latest HAM commits should fix that |
| 22:11.48 | merlin1991 | not here :/ |
| 22:11.58 | merlin1991 | okay will ask pali then |
| 22:12.03 | freemangordon | yeah, let me check on gitorious |
| 22:13.07 | merlin1991 | okay now bug #12145 |
| 22:13.08 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12145 Problem with HomeScreen Selector Widget 0.1-3 |
| 22:14.01 | DocScrutinizer | please rename 12141, the title is complete BS |
| 22:14.11 | merlin1991 | will do |
| 22:14.22 | freemangordon | merlin1991, https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager/commit/0c865a3434716e6ec3a739ae74a5660e86cbd20f |
| 22:14.26 | DocScrutinizer | though, on second thought, HAMs error msg is BS |
| 22:14.37 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 22:15.05 | DocScrutinizer | make that "HAM error says "not enough space..." - BS!! |
| 22:15.19 | merlin1991 | noted down |
| 22:15.21 | merlin1991 | whatabout 12145? |
| 22:15.23 | freemangordon | I love that function "annoy_user_with_arbitrary_details" |
| 22:15.32 | merlin1991 | for me that sounds like an invalid, go pester the author |
| 22:15.50 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: ham has quite some interesting names all over the code |
| 22:15.51 | arcean_ | yeah, invalid |
| 22:15.56 | merlin1991 | just think of red pill mode :D |
| 22:16.37 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 22:16.45 | merlin1991 | was that a nod for invalid? |
| 22:16.50 | DocScrutinizer | what's that 12145? |
| 22:17.18 | DocScrutinizer | nod for red-pill |
| 22:17.40 | merlin1991 | ah |
| 22:17.46 | freemangordon | merlin1991, dont close it, better make it needinfo and ask the reporter if he can reproduce it with latest CSSU |
| 22:17.53 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 22:17.58 | DocScrutinizer | I don't even know what your "invalid" was meant for |
| 22:18.06 | merlin1991 | ofc bug #12145 |
| 22:18.12 | freemangordon | we can close it on next session if no feedback |
| 22:18.14 | DocScrutinizer | I don't get 12145 |
| 22:18.46 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, some widget locks hildon-home |
| 22:19.01 | DocScrutinizer | so that's the fault of whom? |
| 22:19.14 | DocScrutinizer | widgets are from hell, we all know |
| 22:19.26 | merlin1991 | indeed |
| 22:19.35 | merlin1991 | next up: bug #12149 |
| 22:19.36 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12149 Email widget shows "no unreaded items" |
| 22:19.38 | freemangordon | could be hildon-home, as the reporter says it cannot reproduce it with stock one |
| 22:19.44 | freemangordon | *he |
| 22:20.46 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 22:21.01 | DocScrutinizer | so just keep it open? |
| 22:21.02 | merlin1991 | that one I can check if it still valid and if yes try to reach Sc0rpius about it (might be fixed with the modest arm bs fix we have in place now) |
| 22:21.25 | freemangordon | yeah, leave it open |
| 22:21.52 | DocScrutinizer | and yes, +1 for this on 12149 |
| 22:22.13 | DocScrutinizer | I'm not even using modest ;-) |
| 22:22.21 | DocScrutinizer | duh, actually I do |
| 22:22.49 | DocScrutinizer | but my modest widget got nuked some decades ago (apt-get autoremove ;-P) |
| 22:22.54 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 22:23.15 | DocScrutinizer | this a still lingering on annoyance of CSSU btw |
| 22:23.36 | DocScrutinizer | I reinstalled my rtcom-SIP.-support or whatever it's called a week ago |
| 22:23.36 | merlin1991 | yeah |
| 22:23.42 | freemangordon | hmm, WFM |
| 22:23.43 | DocScrutinizer | the 94th time |
| 22:24.10 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: you should create an emtpy package that depends on rtcom.. and install it manually |
| 22:24.14 | merlin1991 | dirty fix :D |
| 22:24.21 | arcean_ | yeah, rtcom-sip is a serious problem |
| 22:24.22 | DocScrutinizer | pff |
| 22:24.43 | merlin1991 | arcean_: actually it's autoremove / wtfremove without even calling autoremove |
| 22:24.53 | merlin1991 | I tried to reproduce but didn't manage |
| 22:24.53 | arcean_ | merlin1991, I know :) |
| 22:25.01 | merlin1991 | okay bug #12153 |
| 22:25.03 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12153 typing contact names when on desktop too fast results in missing second character in contacts application |
| 22:26.14 | DocScrutinizer | (rtcom-sip) we need an apt wizard for that, who can read thru the database or whatever, to analze the issue |
| 22:26.14 | DocScrutinizer | I dunno any such person |
| 22:26.34 | merlin1991 | I know no apt wizzard either |
| 22:26.36 | freemangordon | merlin1991, INVALID |
| 22:26.36 | freemangordon | don't type too fast |
| 22:26.42 | merlin1991 | about 12153 |
| 22:26.55 | merlin1991 | it's actually the button you press the momend the contacts app opens |
| 22:27.04 | merlin1991 | s/momend/moment/ |
| 22:27.09 | DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: WONTFIX |
| 22:27.16 | merlin1991 | so yeah not invalid but wontfix |
| 22:27.37 | merlin1991 | is contacts closed? |
| 22:27.37 | DocScrutinizer | race, we can to so much |
| 22:27.54 | merlin1991 | I think so |
| 22:27.54 | DocScrutinizer | yep, afaik |
| 22:27.57 | arcean_ | yes, closed |
| 22:28.23 | DocScrutinizer | well we *could* fix that in H-* |
| 22:28.32 | freemangordon | ok |
| 22:28.33 | DocScrutinizer | H-H, H-D |
| 22:28.42 | merlin1991 | next up bug #12170 |
| 22:28.43 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12170 Reading tree node uncollapses node's subtree |
| 22:28.48 | DocScrutinizer | just delay the dbus msg |
| 22:29.24 | DocScrutinizer | wait a second |
| 22:30.28 | DocScrutinizer | hildon sends dbus with 1st char to contacts. contacts-dbus-proxy realizes contacts app not launched and does so. meanwhile hildon sends a second msg with 2nd char, this msg goes to dev/null |
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| 22:30.50 | DocScrutinizer | nfc how to fix that |
| 22:31.09 | DocScrutinizer | ok, next |
| 22:31.12 | merlin1991 | wontfix and next |
| 22:31.23 | DocScrutinizer | yawns |
| 22:31.28 | merlin1991 | yep I think this one if reproduceable is one for Sc0rpius |
| 22:31.40 | freemangordon | merlin1991, wait |
| 22:31.52 | DocScrutinizer | all gibberish to me |
| 22:31.58 | DocScrutinizer | context????? |
| 22:32.13 | merlin1991 | I meant the bug #12170 |
| 22:32.25 | DocScrutinizer | too |
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| 22:32.51 | merlin1991 | o hai there |
| 22:32.52 | DocScrutinizer | UGH modest again |
| 22:33.06 | MohammadAG_ | Hai, bouncer down, again |
| 22:33.11 | MohammadAG_ | Or... |
| 22:33.20 | merlin1991 | bouncer is still up afaik |
| 22:33.20 | DocScrutinizer | OOOH it lives |
| 22:33.28 | MohammadAG_ | Really? |
| 22:33.32 | merlin1991 | yep your bouncer is still alive |
| 22:33.40 | merlin1991 | [23:33:23] <merlin1991> test |
| 22:33.40 | merlin1991 | [23:33:23] * MohammadAG is away: "Auto away at Wed Feb 15 21:06:12 2012" |
| 22:33.44 | MohammadAG_ | I cant connect to it |
| 22:33.45 | freemangordon | merlin1991, I cannot reproduce 12170 here |
| 22:33.51 | MohammadAG_ | Oh well |
| 22:34.08 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: worksforme then? |
| 22:34.18 | DocScrutinizer | :-x for me |
| 22:34.35 | freemangordon | yep. At least as I understand the bug report |
| 22:34.45 | DocScrutinizer | >>check mcenfioptionstreeview<< WUT??? |
| 22:34.51 | merlin1991 | okay will close with worksforme and a notice about repopen |
| 22:35.01 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: the bugreport is back form the time when tree view wasn't translated |
| 22:35.02 | freemangordon | ok |
| 22:35.20 | DocScrutinizer | ok |
| 22:35.42 | DocScrutinizer | modest bugs should all get a "please recheck with recent release!" |
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| 22:36.25 | merlin1991 | okay bug #12183 |
| 22:36.26 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12183 CSSU Camera has messed up detection and settings |
| 22:36.40 | DocScrutinizer | :-X !!! |
| 22:36.49 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: ?? |
| 22:36.56 | DocScrutinizer | CSSU camera?! |
| 22:37.02 | merlin1991 | camera-ui :D |
| 22:37.10 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, I know |
| 22:37.23 | DocScrutinizer | and you know my notion about the topic |
| 22:37.25 | merlin1991 | though the whole report is fsckd |
| 22:38.24 | freemangordon | merlin1991, agree, but I am not a photographer |
| 22:38.34 | arcean_ | a lot's changed since then |
| 22:38.57 | merlin1991 | so what do we do with the bug? |
| 22:39.02 | freemangordon | yep, maybe we should ask nikolai on the TMO thread |
| 22:39.10 | DocScrutinizer | needinfo comment please recheck |
| 22:39.13 | MohammadAG__ | I agree about the first point in his report |
| 22:39.23 | arcean_ | yes, needinfo is a good idea |
| 22:39.36 | merlin1991 | needinfo it is then |
| 22:39.42 | merlin1991 | and I'll check about fcam and stock pr |
| 22:39.42 | MohammadAG__ | Nokia's camera-ui checked if another program was using the camera and wo |
| 22:39.48 | MohammadAG__ | Wouldnt pop up |
| 22:40.04 | merlin1991 | will contact nicolai about that |
| 22:40.12 | freemangordon | so it it is a valid bug then |
| 22:40.23 | freemangordon | at least for the first part |
| 22:40.39 | MohammadAG__ | Should be a separate report |
| 22:40.51 | MohammadAG__ | Id suggest opening that to keep track of it and ccing the guy |
| 22:41.01 | MohammadAG__ | Or asking him to open it |
| 22:41.07 | merlin1991 | I'll do that |
| 22:41.26 | DocScrutinizer | there's only one valid ticket against that (and there actually is) "nicocam does not belong into CSSU" |
| 22:41.40 | freemangordon | agree, but better open it |
| 22:41.40 | freemangordon | afk for a while |
| 22:43.01 | DocScrutinizer | I'll call it a day soon |
| 22:43.12 | DocScrutinizer | almost 2h meeting, too long |
| 22:43.15 | merlin1991 | we're maybe 30% in |
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| 22:43.22 | merlin1991 | well bugtracker has had no love for a long time |
| 22:43.38 | arcean_ | for a year :P ? |
| 22:43.47 | DocScrutinizer | so we won't get all that done in one big strike |
| 22:44.03 | MohammadAG_ | Since valentine's day, in 2011 |
| 22:44.05 | DocScrutinizer | next meeting next week same time? |
| 22:44.08 | merlin1991 | yeah let's see how much more we can squeeze in |
| 22:44.17 | MohammadAG_ | I wont be here |
| 22:44.20 | MohammadAG_ | For sure |
| 22:44.33 | DocScrutinizer | we're used to that ;-) |
| 22:44.34 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: do you want to quit now, or feel you've got another 30 mins? |
| 22:44.39 | MohammadAG_ | Got an exam on 26/2, cosmic speeds a bitch |
| 22:44.49 | MohammadAG_ | DocScrutinizer: I lurk around actually |
| 22:44.50 | DocScrutinizer | another 10 min maybe |
| 22:45.01 | merlin1991 | okay then le's do 5 more bugs |
| 22:45.10 | DocScrutinizer | pff |
| 22:45.22 | DocScrutinizer | then we won't get the date for next meeting done |
| 22:45.26 | freemangordon | ok |
| 22:45.31 | MohammadAG_ | Actually |
| 22:45.38 | MohammadAG_ | Set the date with the same time |
| 22:45.45 | merlin1991 | then it's late enough? |
| 22:45.49 | MohammadAG_ | Its late so i shouldnt be studying |
| 22:45.53 | merlin1991 | arcean_: whatabout you next week? |
| 22:46.04 | arcean_ | merlin1991, no problem |
| 22:46.17 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG_: so you can show up? |
| 22:46.24 | MohammadAG_ | Yes |
| 22:46.25 | freemangordon | which is the next? |
| 22:46.34 | DocScrutinizer | bug? |
| 22:46.43 | merlin1991 | would be bug #12237 |
| 22:46.44 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12237 Default WiFi power-saving mode 'Maximum' is unreliable and performs poorly |
| 22:46.47 | freemangordon | yes |
| 22:47.00 | DocScrutinizer | invalid, next |
| 22:47.04 | MohammadAG_ | That should be invalid |
| 22:47.04 | merlin1991 | but freemangordon can you next week same day&time? |
| 22:47.27 | MohammadAG_ | Did that count as 1/5? |
| 22:47.34 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
| 22:47.47 | merlin1991 | 12237 should be invalid |
| 22:48.16 | MohammadAG_ | Its valid only when we push full pr images |
| 22:48.17 | DocScrutinizer | we already are done with it :-) |
| 22:48.26 | MohammadAG_ | I have a feeling that's not going to happen |
| 22:48.45 | merlin1991 | next up bug #12245 |
| 22:48.46 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12245 graphical fault on status icone when loading applets or something else |
| 22:48.48 | DocScrutinizer | 12237 is BS -> invalid |
| 22:49.10 | DocScrutinizer | CND |
| 22:49.31 | merlin1991 | yep 12237 -> invalid |
| 22:49.41 | MohammadAG_ | Sounds like a defective cpu/gpu |
| 22:49.45 | DocScrutinizer | yup |
| 22:49.55 | DocScrutinizer | usually ooopsie every now and then |
| 22:50.00 | DocScrutinizer | not CSSU related |
| 22:50.01 | freemangordon | merlin1991, time is ok, but I would prefer wednesday |
| 22:50.06 | MohammadAG_ | Or corrupt memory, something a reboot would fix |
| 22:50.16 | freemangordon | SGXRecovery? |
| 22:50.34 | merlin1991 | yeah 12245 seems to be invalid |
| 22:50.38 | MohammadAG_ | The only thing thats useful for is draining battery |
| 22:50.50 | MohammadAG_ | Though it occasionally does what its supposed to do |
| 22:50.56 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG_, arcean_, DocScrutinizer wednesday ok too? |
| 22:51.06 | DocScrutinizer | don't mind |
| 22:51.09 | MohammadAG_ | fine here |
| 22:51.12 | arcean_ | ok |
| 22:51.17 | merlin1991 | okay wednesday then |
| 22:51.18 | MohammadAG_ | No uni till 26/2 |
| 22:51.37 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: update topic please! |
| 22:51.44 | merlin1991 | about to |
| 22:51.47 | MohammadAG_ | Annmmo |
| 22:51.51 | freemangordon | so 23/2 21:00 UTC |
| 22:51.59 | MohammadAG_ | Announce on malling list too |
| 22:52.10 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
| 22:52.25 | MohammadAG_ | Or... Not |
| 22:52.30 | MohammadAG_ | We have enough people i guess |
| 22:52.33 | DocScrutinizer | your auto-correction on LSD or what? |
| 22:52.40 | merlin1991 | and whataobut 1 hour earlier? |
| 22:52.44 | arcean_ | hehe |
| 22:52.48 | MohammadAG_ | Stab my iPad |
| 22:52.54 | merlin1991 | Pali said 21 utc is 23 local for him |
| 22:53.09 | arcean_ | so let's made it 22 utc |
| 22:53.09 | freemangordon | For me too, so 1 hour earlier is ok |
| 22:53.11 | arcean_ | crap |
| 22:53.13 | arcean_ | 20 utc :D |
| 22:53.20 | *** join/#maemo-ssu MohammadAG_ (~mohammada@2.54.254.131) |
| 22:53.27 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG_: 20 utc instead of 21 utc? |
| 22:53.38 | MohammadAG_ | Dont mind |
| 22:53.43 | merlin1991 | k |
| 22:53.43 | DocScrutinizer | fine for me |
| 22:53.47 | merlin1991 | perfect |
| 22:54.31 | merlin1991 | will adjust the bugs and write mailinglist annoucnement |
| 22:54.33 | MohammadAG_ | Auto correct should be fine now, yay |
| 22:55.16 | DocScrutinizer | either fine or completely freaked out - the usual two states of mind after ingestion of LSD ;-P |
| 22:55.21 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [+o merlin1991] by ChanServ |
| 22:55.35 | MohammadAG_ | Add apple into the equation and.... |
| 22:56.15 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2 | STABLE: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129261 \o/ | bugmeeting: 22.02.2012 2:00 UTC |
| 22:56.47 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [-o merlin1991] by merlin1991 |
| 22:56.57 | merlin1991 | 18 bugs squashed |
| 22:56.59 | merlin1991 | yay |
| 22:57.09 | arcean_ | merlin1991, 2:00 utc is too early, isn't it? :) |
| 22:57.16 | merlin1991 | ah shit |
| 22:57.21 | freemangordon | :D |
| 22:57.30 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [+o merlin1991] by ChanServ |
| 22:57.40 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1.2 | STABLE: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1129261 \o/ | bugmeeting: 22.02.2012 20:00 UTC |
| 22:57.46 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [-o merlin1991] by merlin1991 |
| 22:59.30 | freemangordon | do we finish? |
| 22:59.30 | freemangordon | *did |
| 22:59.44 | *** part/#maemo-ssu mirandir (~valentin@2a01:e35:2e63:5170:7a2b:cbff:fed1:407c) |
| 23:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
| 23:00.15 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: yep |
| 23:00.22 | freemangordon | ok |
| 23:00.22 | merlin1991 | for today we're done |
| 23:00.26 | merlin1991 | more next week :D |
| 23:00.27 | freemangordon | bb then |
| 23:00.29 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-02-16 23:56:57] <merlin1991> 18 bugs squashed |
| 23:00.30 | DocScrutinizer | [2012-02-16 23:56:58] <merlin1991> yay |
| 23:00.52 | DocScrutinizer | nore like "we looked for them but they weren't there" XP |
| 23:01.07 | merlin1991 | writes mail to pali and andrew about next week |
| 23:02.15 | MohammadAG_ | And SD69 I guess |
| 23:02.41 | arcean_ | it's time for me also, bb |
| 23:02.43 | DocScrutinizer | and andre_ |
| 23:02.49 | *** part/#maemo-ssu arcean_ (~arcean@apn-95-40-207-175.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) |
| 23:03.01 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG_: I'll announce it on the mailinglist |
| 23:03.14 | merlin1991 | but I actually meant andre_ not andrew |
| 23:03.18 | DocScrutinizer | yeah, better that (though I never read that ML) |
| 23:03.41 | DocScrutinizer | OTOH I'm never leaving IRC XP |
| 23:04.03 | merlin1991 | btw doc can you pm me an email for the unthinkable case of you not being on irc :D |
| 23:04.26 | DocScrutinizer | joerg at openmoko org, as always |
| 23:04.57 | DocScrutinizer | pretty publicly known I guess |
| 23:05.19 | merlin1991 | I'm pretty sure you had an openmoko address |
| 23:05.24 | merlin1991 | but it wasn't in your whois |
| 23:05.44 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: that'S recommended even by freenode |
| 23:05.46 | merlin1991 | s/I'm prettry sure/I was pretty sure/ |
| 23:06.48 | DocScrutinizer | though, actually, I wouldn't mind if it's in whois or not, all the spiders of this world already got that addr |
| 23:09.57 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG_: still here? |
| 23:11.54 | DocScrutinizer | haha, #n9 exploded from 38 to 60 users since I last looked at that tab |
| 23:12.08 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 23:12.12 | merlin1991 | still full of bs though |
| 23:12.22 | DocScrutinizer | I bet |
| 23:12.28 | merlin1991 | btw any progress on doing anything hostmode like? |
| 23:12.34 | DocScrutinizer | even #harmattan is full of BS ;-P |
| 23:12.57 | DocScrutinizer | I more or less gave up on it |
| 23:13.08 | DocScrutinizer | it's outright too annoying |
| 23:13.29 | merlin1991 | did you ever end up with a spec sheet that gives enough info? |
| 23:13.38 | DocScrutinizer | and I'm short on free time lately |
| 23:13.48 | merlin1991 | I think at least the aegis side is fixed with the openmode kernel |
| 23:13.58 | DocScrutinizer | :nod: |
| 23:14.29 | DocScrutinizer | I provided POC for VBUSboost |
| 23:15.08 | DocScrutinizer | and the musb-hdrc + PHY should be so pretty much standard that a beaglebiard port should work outa the box |
| 23:15.29 | DocScrutinizer | but I don't feel like setting up a build environment for HARM kernel |
| 23:16.41 | merlin1991 | I think that would be the easiest part |
| 23:17.08 | DocScrutinizer | maybe for you, yes |
| 23:17.20 | DocScrutinizer | for me it's a question of motivation |
| 23:17.23 | merlin1991 | for me defenitely |
| 23:17.33 | merlin1991 | I can do the build env part, but not the other stuff xD |
| 23:18.12 | merlin1991 | thought "stuff" is offensively wrong used here |
| 23:18.23 | DocScrutinizer | N9 sucks, HARM sucks, HARM devels tend to suck, and for sure as hell OVI sucks, so a H-E-N9 never will see wide deployment |
| 23:18.24 | merlin1991 | it's more like I an do the build env part, but not the real work |
| 23:19.00 | merlin1991 | dunno the HARM devels in vienna seemed to be nice chaps so far :D |
| 23:19.46 | DocScrutinizer | well, they are all nice chaps, but they deny the obvious bad-ness of HARM "ecosystem" |
| 23:20.29 | merlin1991 | there is none |
| 23:20.33 | merlin1991 | simple as that :D |
| 23:21.26 | DocScrutinizer | starting at bleeding out of fremantle development and support (see javispedro, mohammad, et al) to aegis BS, to the prenatal funeral of the whole linux idea in HARM |
| 23:22.00 | DocScrutinizer | nah, I used exosystem term in a broader sense |
| 23:22.17 | DocScrutinizer | eco* though exo feels quite right |
| 23:23.35 | merlin1991 | I just like the n9 how it feels in day to day use for me |
| 23:23.52 | merlin1991 | but I still also carry a n900 for all the not so app / phone centered tasks |
| 23:24.04 | DocScrutinizer | for a *phone* it's pretty nice for sure |
| 23:24.09 | *** join/#maemo-ssu MohammadAG (~MohammadA@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG) |
| 23:24.21 | DocScrutinizer | for a NIT it's plain crap |
| 23:25.18 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG ping |
| 23:28.40 | merlin1991 | okay I'm off or my doc is going to kill me, I'm actually on sick leave and should be in bed :D |
| 23:57.36 | MohammadAG_ | merlin1991: Pong |