IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20120205

00:00.26merlin1991what's the actual thing you're trying to get running?
00:00.35merlin1991some logitech Gwhatever insane keyboard?
00:21.35DocScrutinizermx5500 kbd+mouse
01:00.18DocScrutinizer\o/ http://goron.de/~froese/revoco/revoco
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05:20.54DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.cloud-7.de/mx-revolution/ \o/
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07:34.19amiconnuses a Logitech MK300 on his linux box and it just works
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08:30.18Lava_Croftlogitech is too expensive for keyboards
08:39.01amiconndoesn't deem 29€ for wireless keyboard + mouse 'expensive'
08:39.59Lava_Crofti see the two seperate
08:40.09Lava_Croftmy mouse cost me 50€, mx518
08:40.19Lava_Croftkeyb is a 10€ ms one
08:40.58Lava_Crofti like wires
09:04.43amiconndoesn't dislike wires in general, but prefers keyboards and especially mice to be wireless
09:05.42Lava_Croftwireless means heavy
09:05.52Lava_Croftalso means batteries
09:06.40amiconnHeavy being relative. I think both my laptop mouse and the MK300 mouse are lighter than wired 'gamer' mice
09:06.48amiconnBatteries last 3+ months for me
09:07.55amiconn(laptop mouse is a logitech V470)
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09:09.54Lava_Croftrelative indeed, but i dont want to shove around batteries on my desk
09:10.13Lava_Croftat least wireless speed improved, it used to be awful for gaming
09:10.53Lava_Croftbut, wireless is aesthically pleasing
09:11.24amiconnI don't really care about speed as long as it's fast enough to not get visible lag. I'm not into gaming at all
09:11.48amiconnWhile with wired mice, I always have the problem that the cable is too short because it gets blocked by something
09:12.08Lava_Croftwell, ised to live Quake. I guess theres residue left in me :)
09:12.15amiconnThere must be a reason why they still sell both kinds ;)
09:12.20Lava_Croftoh, mx518 cable never bothered me:)
09:12.24Lava_Croftamiconn: yeah
09:12.55Lava_Croftmy netbook mouse has like 20cm cable :(
09:13.40Lava_Croftbut hey, at least we get to discuss mice instead of microsoft or meego!
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09:32.48merlin1991amiconn: about the weight of wired 'gamer' mice, my razer is lighter than any wireless mouse I used so far
09:35.49amiconnWhich model?
09:36.11amiconnjust checked; his two wireless mice weigh 111g and 109g, respectively
09:36.17amiconnIncluding batteries, of course
09:36.35merlin1991Lachesis
09:37.55amiconnThat one weighs 128g according to their home page
09:48.13merlin1991It feels really light
09:48.31merlin1991probably also because it has really low friction
09:50.36merlin1991It seems the modem in my n900 is reaching the end of its lifespan
09:50.45merlin1991connection keeps dropping
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12:52.50amiconn's N900 is still working fine
12:53.16amiconnI hope it will stay like that... I have no idea what to replace it with if it breaks
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16:17.23Raimu-XI'd probably see if there's a cheap used n900 in the auctions.
16:17.35Raimu-XIf not, then I'd bite the bullet and get a Samsung large-screen Android phone.
16:18.11Lava_Croftsmiles at his second N900
16:18.35Lava_CroftI cannot stress enough how good it feel to have beaten the Nokia system of never getting what you are entitled to, as a customer
16:19.01Lava_CroftHeh, just being able to mention this made my day.
16:22.47Raimu-XLava_Croft: So, what was your epic struggle like?
16:22.51amiconnScreen should not bee too large imo (<= 4"). Hardware keyboard is a must, and capacitive touchscreen is 'meh'
16:23.13amiconnAndroid is also 'meh' but probably the least annoying choice out of the "big 3"
16:23.52Raimu-Xamiconn: What publishers even push out phones with QWERTY HW boards these days?
16:23.58Raimu-X+key
16:24.13Raimu-XI just see touch screen this and swype that.
16:24.19amiconnNot many - and that's the problem
16:24.20Lava_Crofthttp://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/droid4-1.jpeg
16:24.21Lava_Croftthere's this
16:24.38Lava_Croftstill is android tho:\
16:24.51amiconnToucscreen keyboards aren't really usable imo - especially on capacitive touchscreen, even when they're larger
16:25.09amiconnonce tried touchcsreen keyboard on an ipad - urgh
16:25.48Raimu-XMy spouse got a Samsung Galaxy Note.
16:26.09Raimu-XWorks for the things required, I guess. (Angry Birds and Facebook)
16:26.10amiconnhas seen the galaxy note at work
16:26.26amiconnFar too large for a phone imo
16:26.33Raimu-XIt's huge for a phone, but that doesn't bother someone that stores them in a satchel anyways.
16:26.56amiconnprefers to keep his phone in the pocket
16:27.09Raimu-XI have to say though that the sheer size of it makes for an interesting attempt - if not necessarily a successful one.
16:27.20Raimu-XI mean, jeeze. That's some form factor for a mobile phone.
16:27.21Lava_CroftRaimu-X: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1108831&postcount=1
16:27.36amiconnwould have bought an N950 - if they had been publicly available
16:27.44Lava_Croftconcurs with amiconn
16:29.17Raimu-XHaha: http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2012/02/asymco_q411_mobile_phone_profits.jpg
16:33.15Raimu-XLava_Croft: That's a great story!
16:33.44Raimu-XIt's always like that, dammit. If there's a way to, override the local authority.
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18:30.35Raimu-Xfreemangordon: Any reports on the Quest for the Thumb, BTW?
18:30.56Raimu-XDid it pan badly or is just stirring still?
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23:46.20jonaskoelkerHi all.  My cssu version (according to about) is 21.2011.38-1maemo2.1; that's not the newest--how do I upgrade?
23:46.30jonaskoelkerI've tried HAM, but it apparently has nothing...
23:55.05BCMMjonaskoelker: 2.1 or 1.2 at the end of that string?
23:55.47jonaskoelker2.1
23:56.06jonaskoelkerI just heard that's the newest stable
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