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07:36.45DocScrutinizermerlin1991: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=42624
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10:54.06Lava_Croftheh nice fix
10:54.09Lava_Croftfinally
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11:52.57freemangordon_woMohammadAG,merlin1991: ping
11:56.24merlin1991freemangordon_wo: pong
11:58.15freemangordon_womerlin1991: What do wyou think about worldclock replacement in CSSU. The one  initially developed by cepi perez, it has a new maintainer and it seems the replacement works pretty well
12:03.25merlin1991I heaven't seen it myself yet
12:03.47merlin1991if it works 100% I see no reason not to include it, but it has to be at least feature complete to the current stock one
12:10.56Lava_Croftfreemangordon_wo: using worldclock replacement myself
12:11.13Lava_Crofti think there's still some small things left to do on it
12:11.43Lava_Croftit behaves different too, with for example one-time alarms
12:13.01freemangordon_woLava_Croft: according to ade that should be fixed in version to be ncluded in CSSU
12:13.33Lava_Croftnice
12:13.33freemangordon_womerlin1991: agree
12:13.50Lava_Croftwell, i love the replacement worldclock anyway
12:17.51freemangordon_woLava_Croft: any other known inconsistencies
12:25.31Lava_Croftwell, the bug i reported was fixed
12:25.38Lava_Crofthavent seen any other ones after that
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16:06.11aapoHi, seems there are happening *almost* realtime chat on TMO about 'adeclock'. Are participants in here, so we can continue with real realtime?
16:27.07merlin1991aapo: there seems to be no dicussion at all about adeclock in here :D
16:27.10merlin1991which is odd
16:27.19merlin1991because all the people who steer cssu are in here
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16:28.27aapook, time for discuss adeclock
16:29.06aapoI got it compiled from command line so it can be packed and pushed to the repository
16:29.32aapoShould I first test building on extras-devel?
16:30.13merlin1991that makes close to no sense
16:30.22freemangordon:nod:
16:30.39merlin1991since if it replaces clock-ui it can only be installed for cssu users and therefore should come from the cssu repo
16:30.40freemangordonaapo, where is the repo?
16:30.55freemangordonwith source code
16:31.25aaposo far, I fetch code from git and built locally
16:31.42aapoI will push it to the extras-devel asap
16:31.51merlin1991btw I wonder what ade meant with "the CSSU counsel"
16:31.51freemangordonwell, push it back somewhere so it can be pulled in CSSU
16:31.59freemangordonnfc
16:32.07freemangordonaapo, forget about extras-devel
16:32.28freemangordonance you package it you lose all commit history
16:32.31freemangordon*once
16:32.41merlin1991also what's there with shellscript wrapping?
16:33.00freemangordonmerlin1991, some nasty workaround
16:33.03aapofreemangordon, ok. I can make clone to gitorious for debian-folder
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16:33.28merlin1991where's the original repo?
16:34.13aapohttps://gitorious.org/osso-clock/
16:34.14freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/osso-clock/
16:35.04freemangordonbeat me :D
16:35.51freemangordonaapo, do you have changes in you local git tree?
16:36.10aapofreemangordon. no I haven't
16:37.30aapofor me, extras-devel is best way to check is debian-packaging made properly, including every build-dependencies
16:37.53merlin1991aapo: why not just use a scratchbox?
16:38.26merlin1991also you can use dpkg-checkdeb or how it is called to check build-dependencies
16:38.40merlin1991and thirdly cssu doesn't use the autobuilder
16:38.49aapomerlin1991: because I have libraries installed already, and not sure which one is used
16:39.19aapomerlin1991, ok.  I though cssu uses autobuilder
16:39.30merlin1991-testing never did
16:40.06merlin1991I tried it with stable in order to have the process more open, but qt sources just refused to work on the autobuilder
16:42.29freemangordonaapo, maybe it is a good idea to do a diff and send the patch to ade for merging it to git tree
16:43.03aapofreemangordon, yes I can do it via gitorious
16:43.22freemangordondoes not matter, as long as history is kept
16:44.04merlin1991wonders how block select in vim worked again
16:44.42freemangordonmerlin1991, sorry for not keeping my promise re HAM, I saw Pali take that. Do you know is he going to re-work "problems" tab?
16:44.52merlin1991yes he said so
16:46.12mase_76is there any chance to disable rotation for the desktop only? the symbols and widgets are messed up when it rotates.
16:46.43merlin1991mase_76: you can disable the desktop rotation + launcher roatation
16:46.48merlin1991or you just fix your symbols
16:47.02merlin1991h-d stores 2 configurations for symbols + widgets
16:47.05freemangordonmase_76, widgets positions are separate for portrait and landscape, just edit their positions
16:47.14merlin1991so if you rearrange them in portrait it does not affect landscape
16:47.27mase_76ah! that was my next question.
16:47.54merlin1991it's just that there is no proper algorithm in place for the initial placement of the stuff in portrait
16:49.06freemangordonmerlin1991, any idea when the meeting is going to happen?
16:49.24merlin1991soo far it looks like we have the biggest chance on thursdays
16:49.49merlin1991since I'm out of town next week I suggest the 16th
16:49.59merlin1991but I still have no reply from Sc0rpius
16:50.33freemangordonhmm, I am in Rome on that day :D. Have no clue whether there will be wireless in the hotel.
16:50.34merlin1991most probably it will be 16th februar 21:00 UTC
16:50.42merlin1991damn :D
16:51.16merlin1991I guess I'll contact everyone with 16th and 23rd and pick the date where we get most people
16:51.30merlin1991so whatabout 23rd for you?
16:51.37freemangordonNP so far
16:52.22freemangordonmerlin1991, let me re-check when exactly i will be back
16:52.35merlin1991btw what are you doing in rome, holidays or business trip?
16:52.44freemangordonholiday
16:52.56freemangordonit is cold here :D
16:53.47merlin1991hehe
16:53.54merlin1991Rome is nice, I've been there twice
16:55.20mase_76freemangordon: thx! it worked!
16:55.47merlin1991freemangordon: the best pizza I had in rome was here: http://maps.google.at/maps?saddr=41.897603,12.479135&hl=de&ll=41.897426,12.478704&spn=0.003206,0.006968&sll=41.89761,12.47917&sspn=0.001603,0.003484&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=19&t=m&z=18
16:55.47freemangordonNever been there. And because there will be carnival in Venice during the same period while I will be in Rome I hope all bars there will work just for me :D
16:56.10merlin1991though that place is a takeaway and is only open at lunch times
16:56.20merlin1991but the pizza was incredible
16:57.56merlin1991about wifi, well both times I was there the hotel had none
16:58.14merlin1991but when you go out every second cafetria has wifi
17:00.28freemangordonyeah, I have experience with hotels in the UK, it is incredible how much they charge per hour. But at least there is wifi. TBH I don't get it. Here in Bulgaria almost every hotel and every cafe and bar has wifi at no charge.
17:00.54merlin1991in roms cafes and bars were that way, but hotels not
17:00.55merlin1991kinda weird
17:01.06freemangordonyeah
17:01.10merlin1991best thing regarding wifi so far I had in crete
17:01.40merlin1991hotel had really silly paysystem which you could easily cirumvent if you knew a mac addres of someone who had paid
17:01.47freemangordon:D
17:01.53merlin1991but the cafe around the corner had free wifi :P
17:02.01freemangordonwell, we have reaver by now ;)
17:02.28merlin1991well it worked differently there, it was an unencrypted wifi that had a mac filter for outgoing traffic
17:02.53merlin1991so if you snooped someons address who had paid you could connect using his mac and surf happily :P
17:03.28merlin1991ofc all that was done on the n900 :D
17:03.43freemangordonwell, it seems I am back in Sofi on 15th
17:03.49freemangordon*Sofia
17:04.04freemangordonthat was good to know :D
17:04.06merlin1991so you're actually at home on the 16th
17:04.10freemangordonyep
17:04.56freemangordonso, no problem on my side for 16th of February
17:05.35freemangordonbb for now, going to chase KP DSP bug
17:05.40merlin1991hf
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17:22.04_ade_Any direct questions about the replacement clock? Remember I am new here on IRC, so don't blame me if I don't do thinks by the book ;-)
17:23.34freemangordonmerlin1991 ^^^
17:27.46_ade_One thing that would be good in my opinion is to have the replacement clock within the CSSU git (like the replacement calculator of Pali)
17:33.21merlin1991hey _ade_
17:33.39merlin1991I heaven't seen the replacement clock so far
17:33.46merlin1991only got to know it about 3 days ago :P
17:33.49aapoade, I'm just writing/testing packeting for 'adeclock'. I made branch to gitorious and will push files there
17:34.39merlin1991btw about irc, irc is async, expect delays up to 14 hours to get an anwser :P
17:36.14_ade_merlin1991, what are the conditions for acceptation (visually). Would no background in portrait and seconds added in the clock be okay?
17:37.38Lava_Croft_ade_: cannot add some settings menu?
17:37.51Lava_Croftso a user can choose between options and you can default them to resemble stock worldclock
17:40.02_ade_has been discussed on talk.maemo.org a lot. I rather not have internationalization conflicts and the extra effort it will take me. Others can be free to add such options
17:55.41freemangordonDSP "bug" does not exist :)
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18:08.58merlin1991_ade_: seconds should not be a problem at all
18:09.04merlin1991no background in portrait is odd though
18:09.09merlin1991and should be fixable
18:10.24aapomerlin1991: issue is that refreshing seconds with background cause also background refressed, and that is taking 10% CPU
18:10.46freemangordonaapo, why is that?
18:11.19freemangordonyou should not redraw the whole background to have some text changed
18:11.19merlin1991aapo that is odd
18:11.24aapoMaybe it is qt's way to refresh full screen
18:11.41aapoI haven't yet read the code, just compiled it
18:11.45freemangordonno, that is for sure,
18:12.09_ade_The text is just updated on the background, no full redraw afaik
18:12.23merlin1991btw why does it work in landscape then?
18:12.38freemangordongood question
18:13.36freemangordoncould it be because actually there is no background in portrait?
18:13.42_ade_No, some misunderstanding. There was never a background in portrait (should be rotated or so)
18:14.07_ade_The issue is updating with seconds in landscape with background on
18:14.14freemangordonaah, ok
18:14.31aapoade, where in code that drawing is done?
18:14.51_ade_in mainwindow.cpp
18:15.40_ade_just a ui->label->setText(new time)
18:15.57freemangordonwell, better focus on packaging, once in CSSU git tree I am sure me and maybe Pali will join the "clean the mess" patry :)
18:16.07freemangordon*party
18:16.32merlin1991well we can't have the drawind issue, but no background is no option either
18:16.56_ade_I think there will be a lot of cleaning needed taking my skills in account ;-)
18:17.05freemangordonmerlin1991, have in mind that there will be a lot of cleanup
18:17.08aapofreemangordon, I made first attempt already. I'm just compiling gcc and binutils and my computer is running hot, it took 72minutes to make adeclock.deb
18:17.25merlin1991aapo why do you use sb2?
18:17.45aapomerlin1991, I like it more
18:17.51freemangordonwhere is the repo, I have 4 Phantom cores here sitting in idle :p
18:18.13merlin1991whenever I search sb2 there are close to no docs
18:18.15aapoAnother computer has sb1 with harmattan-target and I'm trying to like it too
18:18.28merlin1991why don't you simply add the fremantle target?
18:19.31aapoI tried some wacky with sb1 and didn't get them working, even they work on sb2, like free pascal compiler and ARM-qmake
18:19.42freemangordonaapo, while waiting package build to finish - any progress on gcc 4.6.2?
18:20.40aapoI picked gcc-4.6.1 because I got packaging from Ubuntu-11.10 (which I'm using)
18:21.32aapoCurrently it is running gcc.c-torture -tests, so seems it is working
18:26.31aapook, package removes clock-ui and put own binary to the /usr/bin/worldclock and it can be started from terminal. But clicking on panel-applet will not start it. Should there be same service files what clock-ui uses?
18:27.42_ade_don't think so. Is it executable?
18:28.23_ade_sorry, you say it can be started from terminal
18:29.58aapoade, when you have /usr/bin/worldclock replacent do you still have e.g. file /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.nokia.worldclock.service ?
18:30.21_ade_I just replace the /usr/bin/worldclock file with the new executable. Not seen issues with start menu launch
18:31.16aapoOk, and now they are removed because of uninstalling clock-ui
18:32.15_ade_that's the problem alright
18:33.19aapoyes, added it and now it starts. I add it to the package
18:43.22aapoade, you know that stock clock-ui has worldclock symlinked to the maemo-invoker which (some how) then calls /usr/bin/worldclock.launch . It is also wrapped!
18:45.37_ade_Technically you are right about that. But a QT app should be about to run standalone...
18:46.09_ade_* be able to run
18:46.26amiconnfreemangordon: Regarding icon and widget positions for both desktop orientations - that doesn't help if a widget is simply too wide to fit in portrait mode. That's the case for me with omweather
18:54.36_ade_aapo, thanks for the packaging effort so far, I'm leaving the room now
18:56.21merlin1991hm I'm starting to get slightly brainfucked, but it was Sc0rpius who hacked on modest, right?
19:00.12freemangordonas far as I remember, yes
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