| 00:01.47 | StarScream | SimAtWork: sshfs doesn't do it either it seems. Do you think samba would ? |
| 00:02.24 | SimAtWork | i can test that |
| 00:02.25 | SimAtWork | one sec |
| 00:02.34 | SimAtWork | hrm |
| 00:02.37 | SimAtWork | but kate already does it |
| 00:03.32 | SimAtWork | nope |
| 00:03.40 | SimAtWork | doesn't look like it works over samba/cifs either |
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| 00:09.07 | guillet | hello |
| 00:09.16 | StarScream | SimAtWork: do you have oplocks on ? |
| 00:11.20 | StarScream | find it diffucult to beleive no one needs network file editing ability |
| 00:11.46 | SimAtWork | StarScream: kate does do the job though. if i go to save and the file has change kate tells me so |
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| 00:12.04 | StarScream | SimAtWork: oh ok thats fine then |
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| 00:12.55 | SimAtWork | i don't think most text editors actually lock the files you're editting though StarScream. so i don't think oplocks will help |
| 00:12.58 | SimAtWork | but i could be wrong |
| 00:13.17 | StarScream | k |
| 00:15.00 | StarScream | hah! |
| 00:15.02 | StarScream | found it |
| 00:15.05 | StarScream | in kate |
| 00:15.08 | StarScream | general options |
| 00:15.21 | StarScream | there is a Warn about files modified by foreign processes |
| 00:16.37 | SimAtWork | kate is also a fantastic editor |
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| 00:17.47 | StarScream | unfortunely that doesn't seem to work either |
| 00:18.42 | SimAtWork | it didn't? |
| 00:20.35 | StarScream | SimAtWork: nope...not over sshfs anyways |
| 00:21.50 | SimAtWork | what a pain |
| 00:23.50 | StarScream | SimAtWork: it is...i thought sshfs was supposed to make it transparent |
| 00:24.00 | StarScream | so kate's normal features wouldn't be affected |
| 00:25.05 | SimAtWork | me too |
| 00:25.10 | SimAtWork | which is why i suggested it |
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| 00:26.41 | TwoPints | im sharing home directories over nfs but my workstations cannot login with kde (gnome works) |
| 00:26.58 | TwoPints | i get error messages about not being able to delete stale log files |
| 00:27.34 | TwoPints | any body got any ideas how to fix this? thanks |
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| 00:29.31 | StarScream | SimAtWork: the SFTP protocol doesn't have a statfs |
| 00:29.44 | StarScream | SimAtWork: just can't be done it seems |
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| 00:31.01 | SimAtWork | StarScream: i didn't think it'd matter to kate. it looks like it checks the date/time the file was last modified. |
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| 00:31.09 | SimAtWork | StarScream: maybe i'm missing smething :( |
| 00:31.42 | StarScream | SimAtWork: hmm true |
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| 00:38.47 | StarScream | SimAtWork: your right...it works with jedut |
| 00:38.50 | StarScream | jedit* |
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| 00:41.50 | SrChuck | hello, my keyboard don't work in kde :s, print the error... The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but <RALT> has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols.. Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server |
| 00:42.03 | SrChuck | safe me :__( |
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| 00:51.44 | visik7 | how can I enable the universal side bar? |
| 00:52.24 | aseigo | visik7: right click on the panel, add new panel -> univerrsal sidebar |
| 00:52.51 | visik7 | thanks |
| 00:53.36 | visik7 | is it a part of kicker ? |
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| 00:55.42 | Jucato | the universal sidebar is part of kicker. the other one is part of Konqueror |
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| 01:00.19 | icwiener | aseigo: When do you sleep? You can impossibly work on Qt for food, on KDE for fun and then write that long weblog entries with having a reasonalbe sleep time! :D |
| 01:00.33 | icwiener | aseigo: Good work anyways. :) |
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| 01:00.41 | Jucato | hooray for long blog entries! |
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| 01:00.50 | Jucato | thank you aseigo! :) |
| 01:01.08 | Jucato | or aseigo_home, or aseigo_boink, :) |
| 01:01.25 | icwiener | lool |
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| 01:03.33 | Renze | that's how he manages to get all that work done... he has clones ;) |
| 01:05.45 | aseigo | heh. i wish |
| 01:06.27 | sharp15 | to change the default color scheme in konsole use: Settings --> Save as Default |
| 01:06.30 | sharp15 | correct? |
| 01:06.48 | aseigo | yes |
| 01:07.06 | sharp15 | then i'm confused because it hasn't worked. |
| 01:07.13 | Renze | yes, unless you have one set in your default schema (for some bizarre reason), in which case that takes precedence |
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| 01:08.34 | sharp15 | maybe i used the wrong term. i'm trying to switch from the usual black on white schema, to white on black. |
| 01:08.46 | somekool | I just got this errror message for the first time what does it mean ? |
| 01:08.49 | somekool | A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") |
| 01:09.11 | somekool | happens when trying to access system:/media/hdb |
| 01:09.15 | somekool | (cdrom) |
| 01:09.22 | Renze | sharp15: oops, I meant session, not schema... my bad ;) |
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| 01:11.37 | sharp15 | Renze: you were right. i hadn't noticed the combo box that changes the colors on a per session basis. i don't know why that was set to what it was. |
| 01:12.01 | sharp15 | Renze, aseigo: thanks for your help. sorry to bother you. |
| 01:12.07 | Renze | sharp15: no problem |
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| 01:13.08 | Allquixotic | Hello |
| 01:13.43 | Allquixotic | Is there a handy script (other than rebooting) to fix "KLauncher could not be reached by DCOP"? I get it occasionally when resuming from standby, and some apps (Amarok) are broken til I reboot..... |
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| 01:16.34 | Allquixotic | ah, I did a lil' experiment and tested what would happen if I logged out of my user and logged back in |
| 01:16.42 | Allquixotic | everything's in working order again, without rebooting |
| 01:17.01 | Renze | rebooting is the Redmond way |
| 01:17.05 | Allquixotic | lol |
| 01:17.25 | Allquixotic | I don't like rebooting Fedora Core because it takes a while to shutdown, cycle and reboot |
| 01:17.33 | Allquixotic | of course I can't complain since Freespire takes 3 times as long |
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| 01:18.16 | luke-jr_ | is there any way to use DCOP with a dead X? |
| 01:18.16 | luke-jr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.19 | luke-jr_ | oops |
| 01:18.54 | Allquixotic | my laptop's uptime often closely follows my own sleep cycle: I boot it up on the train in the morning, and while I'm awake, going between classes etc, I just suspend to RAM.. then shutdown when I go to bed |
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| 01:32.57 | Linuxerist | Is there a way to get a Gecko kpart running in Konqueror with KDE 3.5.x yet? |
| 01:33.22 | Linuxerist | I keep seeing information about it, but no way to actually do it |
| 01:33.36 | Linuxerist | I will use KHTML for the most part, but it would be nice for testing wesbites |
| 01:34.10 | Jucato | there is no Gecko kpart |
| 01:34.40 | Jucato | discontinued project |
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| 01:42.39 | LiquidNerd_ | krfb just crashed and now my background is gone and I can't connect via vnc.. is there a way to reboot kinetd? |
| 01:42.44 | LiquidNerd_ | without logging out that is |
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| 01:50.11 | Anarky | LiquidNerd_: config center |
| 01:50.33 | Anarky | kde components (don't know exact english name) |
| 01:50.47 | Anarky | services (idem) |
| 01:51.18 | Anarky | internet KDE daemon |
| 01:57.48 | LiquidNerd_ | strange.. still no luck |
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| 02:18.26 | jozef | hi all |
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| 02:33.39 | illwolf | ok when i boot my pc after i login i get this error |
| 02:33.50 | illwolf | could not start kstartupconfig |
| 02:33.57 | illwolf | and then i click ok then i get this error. |
| 02:34.07 | illwolf | could not start kdeinit |
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| 02:35.02 | Schalken | kontact crashed and now i have duplicated or triplicates of every email :( how can i get rid of them? |
| 02:35.10 | Schalken | duplicates* |
| 02:35.14 | Theory | Schalken: look at your folder menu |
| 02:35.27 | illwolf | anyone ? |
| 02:37.23 | Schalken | how i click on all my emails and they have no contents!!! :O |
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| 02:37.48 | Theory | sounds like your index got broken |
| 02:38.38 | Schalken | dammit where did they all go :'( |
| 02:38.43 | illwolf | ? |
| 02:39.44 | Schalken | i shall check if they are still on the server...maybe i can get them back. |
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| 02:43.03 | magyar | hi, how can i make kmail to display html messages proper? right now all images are listed on the bottom of the email |
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| 02:45.07 | illwolf | ok when i boot my pc after i login i get this error |
| 02:45.10 | illwolf | could not start kstartupconfig |
| 02:46.15 | Schalken | illwolf: can _you_ start kstartupconfig? |
| 02:46.25 | illwolf | i dont know anything |
| 02:46.31 | illwolf | i can the shell screen |
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| 02:46.42 | illwolf | then type startx then i get to error's |
| 02:47.39 | positivo | mazsenna |
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| 02:49.11 | illwolf | ? |
| 02:51.37 | zce | does kpdf has any kind of known memory problem? if i load 5 pages of a specific pdf, it uses about 120mb of ram.. some other pdfs its just 20-40mb |
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| 02:53.26 | ForzaPalermo | does anyone know if there is a way to crossfade tracks in k3b and if so how |
| 02:53.51 | Schalken | ForzaPalermo: you mean crossfade them directly on the cd? |
| 02:53.57 | ForzaPalermo | yes |
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| 02:54.01 | ForzaPalermo | like in nero for windows |
| 02:54.24 | ForzaPalermo | im assuming if you could its with a plugin... but i cant find anything |
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| 02:55.36 | Schalken | ForzaPalermo: but then the start of each track would contain the faded ending of the previous track...which will sound weird if you just jump to that track. |
| 02:55.54 | ForzaPalermo | thats fine |
| 02:56.01 | ForzaPalermo | Schalken, thats what im looking to do |
| 02:56.12 | ForzaPalermo | Schalken, is it possible? |
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| 02:56.31 | Schalken | well you'd best put each mp3 into some soft of audio editing prog, fade it, save the faded mp3s and burn them. |
| 02:56.37 | Schalken | sort* |
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| 02:57.02 | Schalken | or oggs, whatever |
| 02:58.03 | ForzaPalermo | so then u cant do it with k3b... |
| 02:58.04 | Schalken | audacity might do it. |
| 02:58.14 | Schalken | not that i know of, no. |
| 02:58.19 | ForzaPalermo | nero always screws up in windows, every release gets worse |
| 02:58.29 | Schalken | its worse in linux |
| 02:58.33 | ForzaPalermo | oh i know |
| 02:58.36 | ForzaPalermo | i tried lol!@ |
| 03:01.08 | hagabaka | single document interface is irritable sometimes... |
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| 03:01.22 | hagabaka | * irritating |
| 03:01.58 | Schalken | i hear more complaints about MDIs |
| 03:02.01 | Schalken | like gimp |
| 03:02.06 | hagabaka | hmm |
| 03:02.22 | hagabaka | coincidentally i'm complaining about Krita |
| 03:03.11 | Schalken | ah yes when i used krita i realised why the gnome devs chose the mdi they did :P |
| 03:03.22 | hagabaka | maybe it's more the inconsistency. if you have a modified image open, and then open a file, it launches another Krita to open it. but if the current image is saved, then it opens the new image to replace this one |
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| 03:06.53 | hagabaka | the perfect UI will be born when we never use it for anything any more |
| 03:07.29 | aseigo_home | hagabaka: the replacing if unmodified is a good point. you should perhaps file a report on bugs.kde.org |
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| 03:08.18 | hagabaka | it looks like an intended feature, but i'll try to |
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| 03:11.30 | warriorness | Hey all... I'm using KDE 3.5.5, Gentoo, Beryl SVN. For some reason, recently all my GTK apps' "select a file to upload/open/whatever" utility have started showing hidden files and folders. How can I set it so they no longer show up? |
| 03:12.18 | Renze | that has nothing to do with KDE |
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| 03:12.42 | intrade | i got new xorg new kde the lot 2 days ago |
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| 03:12.59 | intrade | had to reinstall nvidia grafix driver also new |
| 03:13.03 | intrade | all seems fine |
| 03:13.16 | intrade | i run debian sid |
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| 03:13.48 | warriorness | Renze: Okay, thanks for clearing that up, at the very least |
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| 03:14.47 | intrade | Renze: do you fix your own cars? |
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| 03:15.02 | Renze | intrade: no, I don't own a car... but I do build my own PCs |
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| 03:15.22 | intrade | ok becouse i got new trade discount card from repco |
| 03:15.37 | intrade | could have given you the code lol |
| 03:15.39 | Renze | do they sell computer parts? ;) |
| 03:15.47 | intrade | na car parts |
| 03:15.49 | Renze | bah |
| 03:15.55 | Renze | no use to me then :P |
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| 03:16.03 | intrade | put some cv joints in yur pc |
| 03:16.31 | intrade | do you got a pc specials card i could use the code off? |
| 03:16.50 | intrade | i am thinking of making a core duo 6600 |
| 03:17.16 | Renze | intrade: nope |
| 03:17.38 | intrade | where yu buy from? |
| 03:17.42 | intrade | Qmb |
| 03:18.47 | intrade | you use pricespy renze? |
| 03:18.52 | Renze | sometimes |
| 03:19.06 | Renze | but most of the time I buy through trademe |
| 03:19.10 | intrade | qmb seems not in prizespy |
| 03:19.18 | intrade | tm is overpriced |
| 03:20.16 | intrade | try trade and exchange etc also |
| 03:20.16 | intrade | te.co.nz |
| 03:20.16 | intrade | qmb,co.nz |
| 03:20.16 | intrade | e-zone.co.nz |
| 03:20.16 | intrade | these are the ones i purchased parts from |
| 03:20.21 | intrade | superchaep has a bad name |
| 03:20.29 | Renze | I won't be purchasing any parts in the near future |
| 03:20.35 | intrade | for not replacing faulty goods etc |
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| 03:48.52 | bumi | hi all |
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| 04:17.07 | islamguidedotcom | hi! is there a way to make yakuake appear from the bottom of the screen? |
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| 04:22.38 | Schalken | islamguidedotcom: hey, thats a pretty good idea. you should submit that to the developers. |
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| 04:27.14 | yipe | Is there a way to get tabs, like in gedit, in kedit? |
| 04:27.35 | yipe | that would be incredibly great :D |
| 04:31.45 | yipe | kde, btw, rules, and thank you for ten years of awesome free computing! |
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| 04:33.36 | marcusU | Has anyone else noticed a KWin crash during the splash shot of OO.org? |
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| 04:42.29 | aseigo | yipe: try kate. kedit is just a simple, basic text editor. kate is a full featured editor |
| 04:42.37 | LiquidNerd_ | MS should make a Linux MSN client... either that or Kopete should have better functionality with the other clients |
| 04:42.49 | aseigo | yipe: there's a tabs plugin for kate if you don't like the file list method |
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| 04:43.20 | aseigo | LiquidNerd_: what is kopete missing for you? |
| 04:44.32 | yipe | I find kate.... strange |
| 04:44.40 | LiquidNerd_ | audio support, wink support, nudge support, conference support, handwritting support, drawing support... |
| 04:44.51 | Jucato | aseigo: great posts, btw! :) didn't realize that developernew had a new look already :) |
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| 04:45.25 | aseigo | ugh. nudge. i hate it when my sister comes on and sends me nudges. |
| 04:45.30 | LiquidNerd_ | me too |
| 04:45.35 | LiquidNerd_ | but it's nice when the client can even do it |
| 04:46.11 | Jucato | nudge? is that the same as Buzz in Yahoo Messenger? |
| 04:46.13 | aseigo | it receives them just fine .. |
| 04:46.15 | aseigo | Jucato: i think so |
| 04:46.27 | LiquidNerd_ | receives them by saying "you've been nuged" |
| 04:46.30 | Jucato | it receives and sends them then :) |
| 04:46.37 | Jucato | LiquidNerd_: you can set a sound notification for it |
| 04:46.41 | LiquidNerd_ | heh |
| 04:46.45 | LiquidNerd_ | why not shake the window a bit? |
| 04:46.58 | Jucato | you want sound *and* shaking? |
| 04:47.19 | Jucato | sound, I can understand... shaking... |
| 04:47.32 | LiquidNerd_ | that's another annoying thing about kopete.. if you set a sound for receiving amessage, you still get it when the window is active and new messages come in |
| 04:47.58 | Jucato | which is very convenient |
| 04:48.19 | LiquidNerd_ | how come? |
| 04:48.26 | LiquidNerd_ | you're looking at the window.. you don't need the sound |
| 04:48.28 | Jucato | it does say "An incoming message has been received" not "An incoming message in a non-existing window has been received" |
| 04:48.34 | aseigo | mmm.. i can see how having the sound notification happen when the window is focused. |
| 04:48.35 | Jucato | and when you're not looking? |
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| 04:48.50 | aseigo | er, would be good |
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| 04:49.17 | Jucato | true. I hope it would be a separate option/entry than the regular one |
| 04:49.31 | Jucato | I don't spend all my time looking at the IM window :) |
| 04:49.36 | LiquidNerd_ | heh |
| 04:49.52 | LiquidNerd_ | and when you have it focused, you don't need it telling you new messages have arrived |
| 04:50.02 | LiquidNerd_ | and for those rare times that it's nice, it's annoying |
| 04:50.28 | Jucato | it's a reasonable suggestion. why not file a wish for it? that would be good |
| 04:50.37 | LiquidNerd_ | I think I just might |
| 04:50.44 | Jucato | or ask around in #kopete (although they will probably tell you to file it) |
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| 04:51.09 | LiquidNerd_ | I also don't like how there's no window for when you send a file untill the other side accepts... what if you want to cancel because you chose the wrong file? |
| 04:51.54 | Jucato | LiquidNerd_: just one disadvantage of that notification if you have multiple IM tabs/windows |
| 04:52.07 | LiquidNerd_ | only real reason I'm using Kopete is because it's the best MSN client for KDE... there is a better client called Mercury which works with anything, but that's java and slow as a dog with no legs |
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| 04:52.49 | LiquidNerd_ | how come? if the tab isn't active or the window isn't active, it should make noise |
| 04:52.55 | SAS_Spidey01 | bitlbee? |
| 04:53.06 | Renze | IM to IRC gateway |
| 04:53.12 | Jucato | SAS_Spidey01: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.html |
| 04:53.25 | Jucato | LiquidNerd_: ah, only when the window/tab is focused. |
| 04:53.39 | SAS_Spidey01 | Cooool |
| 04:53.42 | Jucato | should work with both windows *and* tabs |
| 04:53.47 | LiquidNerd_ | agreed |
| 04:54.00 | LiquidNerd_ | I just think it's silly to have the focused window/tab making noise |
| 04:54.12 | LiquidNerd_ | unless it's a nudge or wink or something |
| 04:54.43 | Renze | I prefer my focussed windows playing notifications... I'm not always looking at my monitor |
| 04:54.46 | Jucato | but please... no wobbly nudges... |
| 04:54.57 | LiquidNerd_ | heh.. why not have the option at least? |
| 04:55.07 | Jucato | Renze: ditto. but it's an option that can be turned on/off anyway |
| 04:55.14 | SAS_Spidey01 | I prefer options to configure it :-) |
| 04:55.41 | Jucato | hm... |
| 04:55.58 | LiquidNerd_ | Renze: yeah but how often is it that you're not looking at the screen when receiving messages in the focused window, versus looking at the screen |
| 04:56.13 | Renze | LiquidNerd_: surprisingly often... like just now ;) |
| 04:56.21 | yipe | aseigo, where do you get that tab plugin for kate? |
| 04:56.26 | yipe | what's it called? |
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| 04:57.07 | Jucato | yipe: depending on your distribution, I think it comes with the kate-plugins package |
| 04:57.22 | Jucato | yep, it does |
| 04:57.40 | Jucato | kool I like this plugin. lol |
| 04:57.45 | yipe | thank you so much! :D |
| 04:57.54 | aseigo | yipe: go into the configuration window for kate, click on the plugins option in the tree on the left and if it is installed you'll see "Kate Tab Bar Extension" |
| 04:58.18 | Jucato | wolsni: yeah, they look more like buttons than tabs.. but hey. at least there's something :) |
| 04:58.25 | aseigo | yipe: if it isn't installed you need to install kdeaddons, or whatever your OS calls them. what OS are you running? |
| 04:58.38 | yipe | I got it ت |
| 04:58.47 | yipe | kubuntu edgy |
| 04:59.01 | Jucato | yeah, kate-plugins in Kubuntu |
| 04:59.09 | yipe | thank you very much! |
| 04:59.13 | aseigo | np |
| 04:59.38 | Jucato | oooh kate tabs don't "resize"... |
| 05:00.07 | Jucato | and sorts tabs alphabetically by default... just my luck... :( |
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| 05:01.46 | Jucato | given whatever policy KDE has for "maintenance" releases (3.5.6, 3.5.7), would it be possible to add a GUI way to turn on/off "Middle button closes tab" in Konqueror in some future release before KDE 4? |
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| 05:04.20 | aseigo | Jucato: erm. there already is? |
| 05:04.40 | Jucato | I thought you had to manually add it to konquerorrc? |
| 05:04.43 | aseigo | oh wow. it's not there. i thought it was. huh. |
| 05:04.59 | aseigo | Jucato: i bet you could whip up a patch to the Advanced Options dialog =) |
| 05:05.22 | Jucato | heh I wish I could. believe me, I wish I could :) |
| 05:05.50 | Renze | Jucato: dive in the deep end already ;) |
| 05:05.53 | aseigo | bah. it's not that hard. do you have a checkout of kdebase on your system? |
| 05:06.00 | Jucato | but if someone were to make a patch, it would be possible to have it in 3.5.6 or 3.5.7? |
| 05:06.12 | Jucato | I only have Konvi SVN :( |
| 05:06.31 | Jucato | I haven't gotten really into building yet... |
| 05:06.38 | Jucato | Renze: care to join me in that dive :P |
| 05:06.59 | Renze | Jucato: you can't manage on your own? ;) |
| 05:07.09 | aseigo | Jucato: depends on string freezes. |
| 05:07.23 | Jucato | Renze: heh I'd drown. at least if you dive with me, I have someone to drown with :) |
| 05:07.33 | Jucato | ah... guess it's too late for 3.5.6 |
| 05:07.41 | Renze | I won't drown... fat floats ;) |
| 05:09.10 | Jucato | which reminds me... I need to compile more stuff from SVN to test what's wrong with my system... (KDE/Kubuntu doesn't seem to recognize $PATH properly...) |
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| 05:13.39 | yipe | I'm back :P |
| 05:13.46 | SAS_Spidey01 | wb |
| 05:13.51 | yipe | thank you |
| 05:13.52 | Jucato | more kate questoins? :) |
| 05:13.58 | Jucato | questions* |
| 05:14.46 | yipe | yep ;) someone mentioned that the tab bar extension for kate alphabetizes the tabs, but I noticed just now in config there's an option to turn that off ت |
| 05:15.44 | Jucato | yipe: yep. unfortunately, the default, when you first add it, is to alphabetize... which I didn't want |
| 05:15.52 | Jucato | I can turn it off, but it's too late :P |
| 05:16.01 | yipe | fortunately you don't have to leave it that way :D |
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| 05:16.07 | yipe | too late? |
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| 05:16.17 | Jucato | it already alphabetized my opened tabs... |
| 05:16.22 | yipe | oh lol |
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| 05:16.41 | Jucato | I had 12 files opened in one session I saved, arranged in a customized way... |
| 05:17.03 | yipe | my question is: how can I made that file browser thing not open by default when I open up kate? |
| 05:17.21 | yipe | yeah.... I don't like that thing |
| 05:17.23 | SAS_Spidey01 | I think you can hide it and save it that way in your session |
| 05:17.32 | Jucato | save the session with the panel closed |
| 05:18.05 | Jucato | hm... seems like there's another disadvantage with the tab plugin... |
| 05:18.28 | Jucato | loading time is increased if you start a session with many opened files... |
| 05:18.39 | bline | s/p$/o/ |
| 05:19.02 | Jucato | bline: well, you can set the order of channels you auto-join |
| 05:21.06 | bline | Jucato: Yes, but it still groups them by the server, so I can't, for example, put all the #perl channels I'm on together. |
| 05:21.07 | SAS_Spidey01 | ballocks, I was hoping 'kdesu functName' would actually run a sh script function as root :( |
| 05:21.16 | Jucato | those are tabs... that just look like a tree-view |
| 05:21.25 | Jucato | (you don't group tabs, do you?) |
| 05:22.29 | bline | Jucato: Tabs are grouped in konversation by the server you are on. I'm on 3 servers, with a #perl in 2 of them. I can't start konversation with both #perl's next to each other. I can however manually move them next to each other. |
| 05:22.47 | bline | What's the point of being able to move tabs around if it doesn't save the positions?! |
| 05:23.06 | yipe | okay, finally got the sidebar and file browser thingy to not appear by default!, Thanks again guys, you rock! |
| 05:23.10 | bline | It's like a halfway feature. |
| 05:23.16 | Jucato | heh ask Sho_ :) |
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| 05:23.51 | bline | I'll just live with it until I have time to submit a patch. |
| 05:23.54 | Jucato | bline: or ask in #konversation... I don't have the answer clearly :) |
| 05:24.35 | bline | Jucato: I was just trying to make you understand the point I was making. |
| 05:24.50 | Jucato | yeah I do. it's just that I don't have any other server :) |
| 05:24.56 | mikey | _mike, please don't use the mikey nickname. |
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| 05:26.37 | bline | Jucato: I understand that, I wouldn't have an issue with it if I didn't have to reboot this laptop everytime I transport it.. |
| 05:27.01 | Jucato | re-what? :)/me thinks AdvancedTabDialog is harder to decipher than |
| 05:27.05 | Jucato | lol sorry |
| 05:28.10 | Jucato | hm... |
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| 05:35.30 | Jucato | heh yeah I was surprised that Krita's files came in .cc |
| 05:36.17 | bline | c++ = c + c = cc |
| 05:36.31 | aseigo | cxx. ugh. |
| 05:36.38 | Jucato | :) |
| 05:36.47 | Jucato | what's your preferred extension? |
| 05:36.59 | Renze | actually, shouldn't c++ = c + 1 ? |
| 05:37.05 | SAS_Spidey01 | I know blacbox uses .hh and .cc (ugh) |
| 05:37.26 | Jucato | c++ == (c = c + 1) |
| 05:37.31 | bline | ELOGICERROR |
| 05:37.43 | Jucato | hehe |
| 05:37.51 | BrigadierFrog | I prefer .cpp |
| 05:37.57 | BrigadierFrog | but thats just what I've been used to |
| 05:38.07 | BrigadierFrog | .cc is fine too I suppose |
| 05:38.38 | aseigo | i used to use .cc everywhere (only 2 keystrokes! yay!) |
| 05:38.46 | aseigo | these days i'm used to .cpp |
| 05:39.05 | SAS_Spidey01 | fair enough Renze |
| 05:39.23 | Jucato | I actually only encountered .cc lately... I always thought it was .cpp... :( |
| 05:40.02 | aseigo | Jucato: and which exact file are you looking at? |
| 05:40.34 | Jucato | aseigo: AdvancedTabDialog.cpp. just really looking at it :) |
| 05:40.51 | SAS_Spidey01 | I've heard of .cc, .cx, .c++, and .cpp Jucato. |
| 05:41.03 | Jucato | (and AdvancedTabDialog.h and AdvancedTabOptions.ui |
| 05:41.11 | aseigo | Jucato: it's pretty straight forward, no? =) |
| 05:41.24 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 05:41.38 | Renze | more like a Wellington city street map :D |
| 05:41.57 | aseigo | it creates the ui with m_advancedWidget = new advancedTabOptions(page); |
| 05:42.10 | Jucato | actually it is a bit straightforward if you can make sense out of it... this is just the 2nd KDE code I've ever seen :) |
| 05:42.21 | aseigo | connects the clicked() signal of each of the checkboxes to the changed() slot |
| 05:43.05 | aseigo | load() and save() are pretty self-explanatory as well .. load sets each checkbox's checked state from the config file, save does the opposite |
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| 05:43.36 | Jucato | ah :) |
| 05:43.57 | aseigo | so ... add another checkbox to the UI file in designer, then copy, paste and edit three lines: one in the ctor to connect the clicked() signal of the new checkbox, one in load() and one in save() |
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| 05:43.58 | aseigo | voila |
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| 05:44.22 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 05:44.26 | aseigo | three LOC + a point 'n click change to a designer file |
| 05:44.33 | Jucato | now all I need are some lessons in classes and KDE API :) |
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| 05:45.04 | SAS_Spidey01 | I remeber my first introduction to ANSI C started with showing off one of the things from that Renze |
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| 05:45.32 | Renze | SAS_Spidey01: those things give me headaches :D |
| 05:45.58 | SAS_Spidey01 | HEhehehehe |
| 05:46.05 | Jucato | I'm particularly interested in where/how m_advancedWidget and m_pTabCloseActivatePrevious classes are defined, as that seems to be the place to add the "Middle button closes tab" option I was thinking off :) |
| 05:46.31 | aseigo | Jucato: look in advancedTabDialog.h |
| 05:46.31 | Jucato | er... m_advancedWidget and the other m_foo classes :P |
| 05:46.34 | Endler | Is anyone here using Ruby with QT4? |
| 05:46.54 | Jucato | oh " advancedTabOptions* m_advancedWidget;" silly me |
| 05:47.15 | aseigo | Jucato: and those aren't classes. those are objects. a class is a defintion. an object is an actual instantiation of that definition. |
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| 05:47.49 | aseigo | e.g. "a chair is an elevated platform designed to be sat on" vs the chair you're actually sitting on |
| 05:48.47 | aseigo | Jucato: and advancedTabOptions is a class generated from the .ui file. if you open it in designer, click on the background you'll see in the properties box at the top "Name:" and that'll be the name of the class |
| 05:49.04 | aseigo | well, or you could open the .ui file in a text editor and see it there too =) |
| 05:49.19 | Jucato | ah yes... objects. :) |
| 05:49.25 | Jucato | (sorry someone was at the door...) |
| 05:49.52 | Jucato | advancedTabOptions is the class, m_advancedWidget is the object, right? |
| 05:50.01 | aseigo_eof | Jucato: correct |
| 05:50.08 | Jucato | ooh EOF... |
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| 05:50.12 | Jucato | :) |
| 05:50.25 | Renze | "evening of food"? |
| 05:50.30 | Jucato | good night. and thank you! :) |
| 05:51.26 | SAS_Spidey01 | Foood? Where !!! |
| 05:51.32 | Renze | there! |
| 05:52.13 | Jucato | where?! |
| 05:52.42 | SAS_Spidey01 | lol |
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| 05:53.27 | Renze | blasphemer! |
| 05:53.41 | Jucato | well, I meant, similar function |
| 05:53.47 | Jucato | but better |
| 05:53.49 | SAS_Spidey01 | Qt designers one app I |
| 05:53.52 | SAS_Spidey01 | ve yet to figure out |
| 05:54.05 | Jucato | heh first time I opened it today :) |
| 05:54.54 | Renze | now where are those three spirits... I could use a drink |
| 05:55.32 | SAS_Spidey01 | I read how to use it to seperate UI from Implementation but I don't have time yet to learn the program |
| 05:57.18 | SAS_Spidey01 | thought QT Designer and some Ruby bindings would make a good learning env. But time flies ! |
| 05:57.29 | Jucato | :) |
| 05:58.40 | Jucato | hehe |
| 05:58.50 | Jucato | the undiscovered wonder of QtDesigner... |
| 05:59.00 | Renze | like, you sound like, like, a chick from, like, the valley |
| 05:59.10 | Jucato | I also went "omg wtf are all these tabs?!?!" |
| 05:59.20 | icwiener_ | Renze: like "hehe" |
| 05:59.20 | icwiener_ | :D |
| 05:59.26 | Renze | like totally! |
| 05:59.37 | Jucato | that's like, so lame :) |
| 06:00.13 | icwiener_ | That's all so last year! |
| 06:00.24 | Renze | like bummer |
| 06:00.31 | Jucato | like duh! |
| 06:01.14 | SAS_Spidey01 | You need gnumake to build qt apps don't you? |
| 06:01.46 | icwiener_ | My roommate uses Eclipse and he's just smiling everytime I show him some cool thing I found in KDevelop. "Seems like the KDevelop todo list is the sams as the eclipse feature list he says. ;) |
| 06:02.04 | icwiener_ | SAS_Spidey01: I use qmake |
| 06:02.19 | wolsni | eclipse is really heavy |
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| 06:03.00 | icwiener_ | wolsni: Yes. But it has a "free my memory" button. :D |
| 06:03.31 | Endler | SAS_Spidey01: Did you get the QT4 bindings to make? |
| 06:03.42 | Endler | The Ruby bindings, that is |
| 06:04.09 | SAS_Spidey01 | I have qt-3.3.6_2 installed with only Python bindings atm |
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| 06:05.06 | Endler | Well, my QT3 ruby bindings are working ok, but I had a problem making the Ruby QT4 ones. |
| 06:05.57 | kilrae_ | wheee, look at that desktop spin |
| 06:05.57 | SAS_Spidey01 | I'm not even sure if QT4 has hit ports yet |
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| 06:06.51 | Endler | I was just trying to use the tar off rubyforge.org. |
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| 06:27.02 | GraveDigger | moin :> |
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| 06:29.55 | Jucato | moin |
| 06:30.04 | Renze | eben |
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| 06:39.44 | SAS_Spidey01 | cold here |
| 06:41.10 | Jucato | how in here... |
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| 06:57.49 | Jucato | hm.. KPlayer uses MPlayer as backend right? meaning KPlayer can't run without MPlayer? |
| 06:58.02 | wolsni | yep |
| 06:58.09 | Jucato | ok :) |
| 06:58.43 | SAS_Spidey01 | There hasn't been much work on kplayer in ages has there ? |
| 06:59.30 | Jucato | there seems to be some activity based on websvn.kde.org |
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| 07:00.08 | Jucato | and it says in About KPlayer "KPlayer 3.5.5 (using KDE 3.5.5) |
| 07:00.34 | Jucato | now to find out why KDE/Kubuntu won't add it to my menu automatically... |
| 07:00.55 | SAS_Spidey01 | Mine says KPlayer 0.5.3 using KDE 3.5.3 |
| 07:01.05 | Jucato | I built mine from Trunk |
| 07:01.35 | SAS_Spidey01 | Mines just an old pbi I was testing |
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| 07:10.48 | SAS_Spidey01 | nite |
| 07:10.52 | Jucato | nite |
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| 07:50.54 | kwame | Hi |
| 07:51.17 | kwame | Any one knows if amarok in FC6 supports mp3 playback by default? or do i have to install any additional rpms? |
| 07:51.27 | Renze | ask in #fedora |
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| 07:58.42 | orkid | i would think additional |
| 07:58.44 | orkid | (btw) |
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| 08:05.52 | islamguidedotcom | hi! is there a way to make yakuake appear from below instead of top |
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| 08:06.26 | Jucato | nope |
| 08:06.34 | Jucato | (asked that same question months ago...) |
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| 08:09.04 | orkid | any way to get kmplayer as a plugin to firefox? |
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| 08:11.22 | feety | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:05.42 | islamguidedotcom | Jucato, i hope they add this feature in... i can't use my kicker(placed at top) when using yakuake |
| 09:06.29 | Sho_ | (no, they wont - but the kicker problem will hopefully be fixed) |
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| 09:08.46 | icwiener_ | Sho_: What kicker problem? |
| 09:09.21 | islamguidedotcom | Sho_, ye |
| 09:09.48 | icwiener_ | Sho_: Nevermind. Just read the former comment. :) |
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| 09:12.29 | Jucato | :) |
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| 09:13.10 | Jucato | islamguidedotcom: I've been able to make yakuake appear at the bottom instead of the top. but the sliding is still from top to bottom |
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| 09:15.13 | islamguidedotcom | Jucato, i presume that requires extreme hacking |
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| 09:17.44 | icwiener_ | "Yes, I know, the 90s called and want their feature back." lol, Adrian made my day. :D http://people.fruitsalad.org/adridg/bobulate/index.php?/archives/327-Discovering-eyecandy.html |
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| 09:18.32 | maniel | hi |
| 09:19.10 | maniel | does kde supports multimedia buttons on keyboard by itself? |
| 09:19.23 | Jucato | islamguidedotcom: no not really, just the Special Window Settings option that appears when you press Alt+F2 -> Advanced |
| 09:19.25 | thiago | maniel: yes |
| 09:19.31 | maniel | i mean without lineakd |
| 09:19.48 | thiago | maniel: since I don't know what lineakd is, yes |
| 09:20.20 | maniel | The3_14ed|r: ok, tell me how to configure that:) |
| 09:20.31 | maniel | *thiago: |
| 09:20.32 | thiago | configure your keyboard layout correctly. |
| 09:20.33 | thiago | done |
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| 09:21.43 | thiago | KDE Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout |
| 09:21.50 | thiago | just make sure you have the right layout |
| 09:22.19 | islamguidedotcom | Jucato, i though alt+f2 simply brings up the global run command? |
| 09:22.47 | islamguidedotcom | anyways holding alt and using the cursor to move it where u want it works too |
| 09:23.22 | maniel | ok, so what to do if my keyboard is not on the list? |
| 09:23.34 | thiago | maniel: find the closest one |
| 09:23.47 | thiago | or write a new keyboard description file |
| 09:24.56 | Jucato | islamguidedotcom: I said Alt+F3 |
| 09:25.00 | Jucato | I meant* |
| 09:25.02 | Jucato | sorry :P |
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| 09:27.20 | maniel | thiago: where those definitions are? |
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| 09:27.45 | maniel | in which folder |
| 09:28.04 | islamguidedotcom | Jucato, ah ok thx |
| 09:28.14 | thiago | /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols |
| 09:28.32 | thiago | file inet |
| 09:32.05 | maniel | thanks:) |
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| 10:01.26 | giedrius | hi, does kmail support sending messages in HTML format? |
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| 10:02.02 | giedrius | version 1.9.5 |
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| 10:02.25 | giedrius | I can't find any settings to enable HTML composition |
| 10:04.37 | giedrius | There is a setting in composer, but kmail doesn't recognise my html signuture and just shows html source |
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| 10:06.13 | Desintegr | new message |
| 10:06.15 | Desintegr | options |
| 10:06.22 | Desintegr | HTML formating |
| 10:06.44 | giedrius | yeah I found this setting, and know messages are sent in html |
| 10:06.55 | giedrius | but html signature doesn't work |
| 10:08.13 | nik7 | knetworkmanager is not saving my keys; If there is a known network (which I used before) he prompts me for the passphrase/key, instead doing it automatically... |
| 10:08.16 | nik7 | any hint? |
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| 10:11.32 | thiago | giedrius: HTML signatures are not supported |
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| 10:13.31 | whatsup103 | thiago: where do you live ? |
| 10:13.44 | Desintegr | HTMLized emails are evil :) |
| 10:15.47 | _al_ | nik7: what distro are you using? |
| 10:15.58 | nik7 | _al_, arch linux |
| 10:16.08 | _al_ | ok |
| 10:16.31 | _al_ | I've noticed almost same effect on openSUSE 10.2 |
| 10:16.39 | nik7 | so it seems he is saving the networks (because its a hidden one), but he is asking for a key... |
| 10:17.03 | _al_ | I've set knetworkmanager to use kwallet to get this key |
| 10:17.15 | Fleebailey33 | is anyone here could with wine? |
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| 10:17.45 | _al_ | I dont't know if knetworkmanager should save this passphrase/key |
| 10:17.57 | _al_ | maybe somenone other on channel could answer |
| 10:18.08 | _al_ | nik7: you are using kde 3.5.5? |
| 10:18.23 | Fleebailey33 | i have some shortcuts..yes windows ones... i would like to run with wine. yet it cant find wine. it gets tricky when im doing chroot |
| 10:19.09 | ponto | nik7: once this worked for me: delete the keys in kwalletmanager and reenter them. |
| 10:19.30 | Fleebailey33 | sudo chroot /chroot password wine then all other stuff in properites to launch it in kde? |
| 10:20.24 | _al_ | ponto: I think nik7 isn't using kwallet for this |
| 10:20.25 | giedrius | thiago: thank you for answer |
| 10:20.36 | _al_ | nik7: am I wrong? |
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| 10:23.37 | _al_ | ponto: do you think there isn't possibility to save key in knetworkmanager itself? |
| 10:23.52 | ponto | _al_: don't know. |
| 10:24.02 | _al_ | I don't know either |
| 10:24.19 | ponto | _al_: but it would make sense to only store them in a wallet |
| 10:25.40 | _al_ | ponto: yes, that is the kde way |
| 10:26.13 | ponto | _al_: not all apps go this way. kmail does not store gpg mantras in the wallet. this is sad |
| 10:27.04 | pinotree | gpg keys are handled by gpg |
| 10:27.15 | pinotree | kwallet stores passwords iirc |
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| 10:27.27 | GraveDigger | true |
| 10:27.38 | ponto | pinotree: i do not mean the key. i mean the mantra to open the key |
| 10:27.46 | pinotree | "mantra"? |
| 10:27.52 | ponto | password |
| 10:27.54 | pinotree | the passphrase? |
| 10:27.58 | ponto | My gpg calls this mantra |
| 10:28.05 | skyphyr | hi all - hoping someone here knows something about kdebase-kioslaves :-) I've got it working and automount is happy, but someone it trying to plug in ntfs formatted drives and they get mounted with root ownership |
| 10:28.06 | ponto | pinotree: yes the passphrase |
| 10:28.19 | pinotree | it belongs to gpg |
| 10:29.09 | pinotree | (if you want, you can always add something manually in the wallet yourself) |
| 10:29.23 | ponto | pinotree: yes. but kmail could store it in a wallet to pass it to gpg instead of asking me for each mail. |
| 10:29.38 | pinotree | secutiry, i'd say |
| 10:29.42 | pinotree | security* |
| 10:30.23 | pinotree | it could keep it temporarily for eg 3 minutes (like enigmail does iirc), but not permanently |
| 10:30.39 | ponto | I use the kwallet for more sensitive data. You mean it is not safe there? |
| 10:30.56 | pinotree | a gpg key is even more sensitive |
| 10:31.17 | pinotree | oh well, in any case, you have bugs.kde.org for feature requests |
| 10:31.24 | pinotree | or #kontact |
| 10:32.03 | _al_ | ponto: everyone who knows your wallet password can see your gpg-key |
| 10:32.15 | _al_ | and other saved data also |
| 10:32.30 | ponto | _al_: everyone who knows my gpg passphraase can see my key. What is the difference? |
| 10:33.10 | pinotree | while you can change your mail account password, you can NOT change the passphrase of a gpg key |
| 10:33.43 | pinotree | a gpg passphrase is immutable, once the key is created |
| 10:34.40 | pinotree | the only way is revoking the key, but you can do that only if you have a revoking certificate (generated from the key) |
| 10:35.02 | ponto | pinotree: No. You can change the passphrase |
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| 10:35.58 | _al_ | pinotree: is there possibility to set "master password" for kwallet that nobody can see your saved passwords without this "master password"? |
| 10:36.09 | ponto | _al_: of course |
| 10:36.24 | ponto | _al_: that's the reason for kwallet. |
| 10:36.33 | ponto | _al_: you did not enter a password for your kwallet? |
| 10:36.42 | _al_ | ponto: after your wallet is open? |
| 10:36.46 | _al_ | I mean that |
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| 10:37.00 | _al_ | of course I have password |
| 10:37.05 | pinotree | (oh, didn't know that) |
| 10:37.38 | _al_ | but after giving password all passwords are possibly to see |
| 10:37.49 | MrGrim | you can set the wallet to close after a set amount of time and to make it so new apps can't access an open wallet w/o the password |
| 10:37.54 | MrGrim | iirc you can also manually close a wallet |
| 10:38.12 | ponto | _al_: yes. but only to apps that are allowed to do it. |
| 10:38.27 | _al_ | ponto: I mean other user |
| 10:38.43 | _al_ | e.g. I leave my computer alone for while |
| 10:38.59 | ponto | _al_: then you have to lock your session |
| 10:39.04 | MrGrim | _al_: like I just said, you can set the wallet to close after a set amount of time or close it yourself |
| 10:39.11 | _al_ | ponto: yes I know |
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| 10:39.31 | _al_ | but without locking session it's possible to steal my passwords if wallet is open |
| 10:39.48 | MrGrim | _al_: you can also configure the screensaver so putting the mouse in one of the corners of the screen immediately locks it |
| 10:39.59 | l3mr | is it possible to share a /home/user/.kde between a 32bit kde install and a 64bit one? ( i have two partitions ) |
| 10:40.08 | ponto | There is a tradeoff: Either you leave the wallet open all the time and do not have to enter the password more than once and have to lock the screen, or you set a timeout and have to reenter you password. |
| 10:40.09 | MrGrim | _al_: how? |
| 10:40.31 | MrGrim | _al_: the kwallet program itself cannot access your wallet without entering a password |
| 10:40.50 | MrGrim | even if the wallet is open for konqeuror, it isn't open for anything else if you configure it that way |
| 10:40.55 | MrGrim | for example |
| 10:41.12 | ponto | MrGrim: how does the kwallet determine that it is speaking to konqueror? |
| 10:41.24 | ponto | MrGrim: you could start a fake konqueror programm that reads the passwords |
| 10:42.21 | MrGrim | ponto: the new program would need to open a new session with kwallet, which would ask for authentication |
| 10:42.34 | MrGrim | even if it pretends to be konqueror |
| 10:43.27 | MrGrim | and if someone has enough time to build, download, or mount a flash drive to get such a fake app and you are that paranoid then lock the screen |
| 10:43.40 | ponto | MrGrim: ok. this mode of operation is quite annoying. but what about this: I write a new kpart that is loaded into konqueror and reads the passwords. |
| 10:44.12 | MrGrim | ponto: here's a tip.. don't use kwallet.. then until they find a way to hack your brain your data is safe |
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| 10:45.14 | ponto | MrGrim: hey. I use kwallet. And I lock my screen. I just want the passphrase for my ssh key and gpg key stored in kwallet and used by kde apps. |
| 10:45.19 | MrGrim | ponto: I'm not a kwallet expert anyways, I don't know of that theoretical and highly unlikely scenario would even work |
| 10:46.32 | MrGrim | you can use a different wallet for high security data |
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| 10:49.25 | MrGrim | ponto: I do know that you make make kwallet as restrictive as you'd like.. you can have it so every time any app needs a password you have to enter the master password for kwallet |
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| 10:49.52 | MrGrim | or you can make it so you only enter it once when it's first accessed, or several variations inbetween |
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| 11:01.54 | nik7 | re |
| 11:02.16 | nik7 | ponto, "reenter them" - in knetworkmanager? so disconnect and connect to the network again? |
| 11:02.30 | ponto | nik7: yes. |
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| 11:02.48 | nik7 | _al_, yes, I use also kwallet...I think (well i in the default wallet are the keys saved, but on reboot its not there) |
| 11:03.22 | nik7 | ..I mean there is no knetworkmanager entry anymore in kwallet after reboot |
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| 11:17.46 | nik7 | re |
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| 11:18.47 | nik7 | so knetworkmanager asks after every new boot for a key because it seems that it's not saved in kwallet...the entry is gone after boot |
| 11:19.14 | nik7 | ponto, deleting the key in kwallet and diconnecting/reconnecting he uses automatically the last key I entered...there is no popup |
| 11:19.59 | ponto | nik7: i do not know what to do next |
| 11:20.10 | nik7 | hm ... :) |
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| 11:26.52 | tsb | 'kdict' is okay but very slow. are there any better alternatives? |
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| 11:37.52 | Crissi | hello |
| 11:38.14 | Crissi | how i can set a gesture in kde which send alt+f4 for example? |
| 11:38.28 | Crissi | i want to use global shortcuts for gestures |
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| 11:48.46 | easuter | hi |
| 11:54.43 | shastry | hey guys.. a little OT here.. anyone freelance ? |
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| 11:55.41 | Thundercloud | Crissi: Control Centre -> Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions |
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| 12:01.46 | XVampireX | I think I know what makes gnome themes feel better, because they have icons on their buttons by default, and kde doesn't... I just enabled it, using polyester and tango icon theme and it seems pretty polished :) |
| 12:04.01 | Jucato | (icons on buttons have nothing to do with what widget style is used, though... it's applicable to all...) |
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| 12:04.29 | XVampireX | I know |
| 12:04.42 | adamt | Funny fact; KDE 3.5.5 is faster than Xfce 4.4 rc2 at starting up. Yay for KDE. |
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| 12:06.56 | XVampireX | Is it faster than gnome? :D |
| 12:07.24 | adamt | XVampireX: Xfce or KDE? |
| 12:07.34 | XVampireX | kde |
| 12:07.40 | XVampireX | at starting up |
| 12:08.01 | adamt | it's about the same here... i think.. i haven't done any seris measurements, and i'm not using gnome anyways |
| 12:08.42 | XVampireX | ok |
| 12:08.52 | adamt | XVampireX: Try it yourself, it's free of charge |
| 12:13.08 | XVampireX | No |
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| 12:14.06 | adamt | Good boy :-) |
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| 12:27.51 | XVampireX | adamt: Right... |
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| 12:35.03 | tuxick | how come kwallet password dialog is pretty much the *only* thing failing to grab focus? |
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| 13:00.03 | islamguidedotcom | tuxick, u can manually set it to always on top under advanced options |
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| 13:08.10 | deitarion | Where is the ksystraycmd config. I need to nuke it. (Gtk-Gnutella gained it's own tray icon but ksystraycmd crashes without saving config when I choose "undock") |
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| 13:10.06 | tuxick | islamguidedotcom: where would i find those? |
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| 13:11.30 | islamguidedotcom | tuxick,right click the title bar and click advanced>special window/application settings |
| 13:12.06 | tuxick | islamguidedotcom: what title bar? i mean the little password dialog that pops up when it needs my pass again? |
| 13:12.12 | tuxick | how to force it to pop up? |
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| 13:12.54 | Crissi | Thundercloud: i had found it but it dont seem working i tried |
| 13:13.08 | Crissi | tell me exactly what to do |
| 13:13.14 | Thundercloud | Crissi: no. |
| 13:13.20 | Thundercloud | Check mouse gestures aren't disabled. |
| 13:13.23 | Thundercloud | And other settings. |
| 13:13.24 | islamguidedotcom | tuxick, the title bar is the top part of the window where the close button and window title is |
| 13:13.32 | deitarion | Can anyone remember the name of that KDE equivalent to gconf-editor? I suspect ksystraycmd stores it's settings in the "registry" and, unlike GConf and Windows, I don't even know where the on-disk version IS, let alone how to edit it by hand. |
| 13:13.38 | tuxick | i know that :) |
| 13:13.39 | Crissi | is enabled |
| 13:13.41 | Thundercloud | I'm not going to walk through it holding your hand. I've tried that too many times with people and they never learn. |
| 13:14.02 | Thundercloud | Sorry. |
| 13:14.02 | Thundercloud | I'd be a bit nicer about it, but this is a crap day for me. |
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| 13:14.10 | islamguidedotcom | tuxick, simply right click that and a menu will appear |
| 13:14.10 | Crissi | i ask for another user and i'm not stupid but we cant get it working |
| 13:14.38 | XVampireX | Can anyone please help me with xkb? |
| 13:14.39 | Crissi | only for sending normal shortcut to the window |
| 13:15.22 | tuxick | islamguidedotcom: so i have to wait for the dialog to pop up again? |
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| 13:16.04 | islamguidedotcom | tuxick, that's the easiest way unless u want to manually specify the window in kde control center |
| 13:16.07 | XVampireX | islamguidedotcom: Are you frmo Arch Linux? |
| 13:16.11 | XVampireX | from^ |
| 13:16.18 | islamguidedotcom | XVampireX, ye |
| 13:16.22 | XVampireX | Oh |
| 13:16.27 | XVampireX | It's me, too :P |
| 13:16.29 | islamguidedotcom | how many of me can there be |
| 13:16.37 | tuxick | thousands! |
| 13:16.38 | XVampireX | haha |
| 13:16.49 | morten | is it possible to use dcop commands, like "dcop amarok player play", without having kde installed? |
| 13:16.56 | islamguidedotcom | ya i you're the one who replied to my posts |
| 13:17.14 | Thundercloud | morten: KDE has to be installed for dcop to exist. |
| 13:17.24 | Thundercloud | Whether you RUN it is up to you. |
| 13:17.26 | morten | Thundercloud: it can't be installed without installing the rest of KDE? |
| 13:17.35 | Thundercloud | morten: You need kdelibs and kdebase for dcop to work. |
| 13:17.42 | Thundercloud | Which is the bare minimum install of KDE anyway. |
| 13:17.48 | morten | right |
| 13:17.54 | morten | but installing those two would be sufficient? |
| 13:17.58 | Thundercloud | Should be. |
| 13:18.02 | morten | thanks |
| 13:18.45 | morten | seems those two have a lot of dependencies. i guess i'll just have to play along. |
| 13:19.28 | morten | or do you think i'd be better off forcing apt to ignore dependencies, since i won't be running kde? |
| 13:19.43 | Thundercloud | Not a clue. |
| 13:19.50 | Thundercloud | I don't understand you GNOME people. |
| 13:19.58 | morten | i don't run gnome... |
| 13:20.04 | Thundercloud | morten: Okay that's good enough. |
| 13:20.15 | morten | this is for a media centre. it runs fluxbox |
| 13:21.14 | Thundercloud | Nothing annoys me more than GNOME people who use, in my opinion, a severely inferior desktop environment compared to KDE, and yet install/run like HALF OF KDE just to get amarok running. |
| 13:21.16 | morten | no point running a bloated environment like either KDE or Gnome on a HTPC |
| 13:21.23 | Thundercloud | morten: Very good point. |
| 13:21.26 | Thundercloud | You using MythTV? |
| 13:21.28 | smileaf | morten: kdelibs *must* be installed for *any* KDE application to run. |
| 13:21.29 | morten | yea |
| 13:21.36 | Thundercloud | morten: Word. |
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| 13:21.43 | Thundercloud | I wish I had the money to build a HTPC. |
| 13:21.57 | morten | doesn't cost that much. i used old parts, and bought a slick Silverstone case to put them in |
| 13:22.05 | shadowsa | is there anybody who can help with xorg and beryl? |
| 13:22.06 | Thundercloud | morten: I have _no money_ :D |
| 13:22.13 | morten | throw in some noiseless fans and i think i checked in at less than 250 bucks |
| 13:22.35 | smileaf | shadowsa: try #xorg or #beryl maybe? thats not at all related to KDE. |
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| 13:22.48 | shadowsa | sorry guys |
| 13:22.56 | shadowsa | didnt mean to annoy |
| 13:23.53 | morten | Thundercloud: http://silverstonetek.com/products-lc20m.htm |
| 13:23.56 | Jucato | what happened what happened?!?! :) |
| 13:24.09 | Jucato | hi smileaf! |
| 13:24.21 | Jucato | hi annma!!!! |
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| 13:26.06 | XVampireX | Can anyone PLEASE help me with xkb? |
| 13:26.14 | XVampireX | I can't change groups with the keyboard... |
| 13:26.48 | smileaf | Jucato: Hi! |
| 13:27.03 | smileaf | Jucato: your really hyper it seems o.o |
| 13:27.15 | Jucato | lol no |
| 13:27.46 | XVampireX | I can't change groups with the keyboard... |
| 13:27.48 | XVampireX | I can't change groups with the keyboard... |
| 13:27.50 | XVampireX | I can't change groups with the keyboard... |
| 13:28.10 | Jucato | hm.... |
| 13:28.10 | *** mode/#kde [+o annma] by ChanServ |
| 13:28.17 | Jucato | incoming!!!!!!!! |
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| 13:28.52 | annma | hi Jucato :) |
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| 13:29.24 | XVampireX | You know, this is not fair. |
| 13:29.30 | XVampireX | Fucking op abuse |
| 13:29.36 | DeadFishMan | LOL |
| 13:29.53 | MrGrim | ooo what happened |
| 13:29.54 | annma | yeah, carry on swearing |
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| 13:29.56 | Jucato | You know, this is not fair... fscking Entery key abuse |
| 13:30.18 | XVampireX | Jucato: You know, this is not fair.... fscking no-help abuse |
| 13:30.34 | annma | XVampireX: now please stop it |
| 13:31.00 | MrGrim | XVampireX: it's ok to imply swear words.. just don't actually use the REAL letter combination cause that's bad mmk? :P |
| 13:31.07 | Jucato | XVampireX: 1) you can't expect everyone to be here *when* you need help; 2) you can't expect everyone to know the answer to your problem; 3) you can't expect anyone to help you after what you've been doing |
| 13:31.31 | XVampireX | You can't everyone to expect to help you after what YOU have been doing |
| 13:31.45 | MrGrim | omg... |
| 13:31.53 | MrGrim | I have an IP with a PTR record! |
| 13:31.59 | MrGrim | it's a freakin miracle! |
| 13:32.03 | DeadFishMan | You know what they say about IRC, right? That it is a courtesy and all... :) |
| 13:32.22 | XVampireX | annma: Who are you? A god? |
| 13:32.25 | XVampireX | Geeks never learn |
| 13:32.46 | XVampireX | nerds, actually. |
| 13:33.23 | XVampireX | All I'm asking is for some help |
| 13:33.28 | XVampireX | I even asked with the magic word |
| 13:33.32 | XVampireX | Why can't anyone help me? |
| 13:33.33 | pinotree | XVampireX: then just sits down and WAITS |
| 13:33.39 | morten | god damn it. i installed kdelibs and kdebase, and dcop still says "couldn't attach to dcop server" |
| 13:33.42 | pinotree | be PATIENT |
| 13:33.55 | XVampireX | Patience is not my middle name |
| 13:34.01 | MrGrim | XVampireX: nobody here is actually paid to do this |
| 13:34.02 | pinotree | asking every 5 seconds like a cronjob is BAD |
| 13:34.07 | Jucato | because maybe not everyone in here knows what the solution to your problem is |
| 13:34.17 | XVampireX | I've been struggling with this same problem for quite some time |
| 13:34.19 | MrGrim | you get what you pay for |
| 13:34.20 | MrGrim | etc. |
| 13:34.22 | XVampireX | And that's not just today |
| 13:34.33 | morten | do i need to launch dcop or something? |
| 13:34.43 | morten | i'm not seeing a script in init.d |
| 13:34.57 | XVampireX | http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+xkb+group+change&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=10&sa=N |
| 13:35.00 | XVampireX | It's a bug with kde |
| 13:35.05 | XVampireX | it works fine in gnome |
| 13:35.10 | pinotree | have you reported it? |
| 13:35.17 | XVampireX | It has been there for a while |
| 13:35.20 | pinotree | have you checked if it's already reported? |
| 13:35.22 | annma | morten: maybe try a new user to see |
| 13:35.47 | XVampireX | Check the versions people have been reporting this problem |
| 13:36.00 | XVampireX | And I'm reporting this under kde 3.5.5 |
| 13:36.36 | XVampireX | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1660974 |
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| 13:36.52 | pinotree | XVampireX: i'll repeat: have you checked in bugs.kde.org? |
| 13:36.56 | XVampireX | "Not great, as this used to work in Gnome " |
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| 13:37.04 | XVampireX | What am I supposed to do in bugs.kde.org? |
| 13:37.10 | XVampireX | It should have been fixed by now, sorry mate. |
| 13:37.15 | pinotree | a) check if it's already reported |
| 13:37.29 | pinotree | a) if not, report it |
| 13:37.42 | pinotree | XVampireX: developers can't fix your rants |
| 13:38.04 | pinotree | if you don't report the problems you find, developer won't EVER know about your problems |
| 13:38.06 | XVampireX | What the.... |
| 13:38.16 | XVampireX | DUDE, CHECK THE VERSIONS PEOPLE HAVE HAD THESE PROBLEMS IN! |
| 13:38.25 | Sho_ | XVampireX: You have three options: a) Report a bug, b) Develop a fix, c) Hire someone to do 'a' or 'b' if you're unwilling or incapable |
| 13:38.37 | Sho_ | XVampireX: One more yell -> ban |
| 13:38.38 | pinotree | XVampireX: i'm not the one with a bug, YOU are the one |
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| 13:38.54 | pinotree | i can NOT check problems that i have NOT |
| 13:38.56 | Jucato | if the bug hasn't been reported, then there is very little chance that it would come to the attention of the developer |
| 13:38.58 | XVampireX | pinotree: Because you don't USE anything other than english. |
| 13:39.04 | pinotree | lol |
| 13:39.07 | annma | lol |
| 13:39.13 | Jucato | ... |
| 13:39.23 | pinotree | my whole desktop is in a language different than english, dear troll |
| 13:39.33 | XVampireX | Right |
| 13:39.34 | annma | besides kxkb has seen a lot of improvement |
| 13:39.42 | annma | so reporting a bug is worth it |
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| 13:41.04 | XVampireX | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1660974 |
| 13:41.06 | XVampireX | err |
| 13:41.12 | XVampireX | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99009 |
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| 13:41.36 | annma | Alt-Shift is the bug? |
| 13:41.46 | pinotree | XVampireX: where do you see it'f fixed |
| 13:41.48 | pinotree | ? |
| 13:42.08 | XVampireX | alt shift is not the bug, people have it with ctrl+shift and everything else. |
| 13:42.14 | XVampireX | I tried ctrl+shift too |
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| 13:42.18 | pinotree | i see an open bug, reported almost two years ago |
| 13:42.22 | annma | that's what the fuss was about? |
| 13:42.47 | XVampireX | annma: Huh? |
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| 13:44.18 | annma | just add your remark here XVampireX |
| 13:44.24 | annma | in the bug report |
| 13:44.45 | Jucato | hm... I can change keyboard layouts to be able to type these characters: é ñ or ツ... I'm guessing that's a different thing? |
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| 13:46.33 | Jucato | hm.... |
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| 14:07.18 | shadok | is the field Use custom CTCP reply blank and greyed by default ? (box unchecked) |
| 14:07.33 | shadok | oops bad channel, sorry |
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| 14:13.33 | Washboy | When i try to compile kde 3.5.5 on slackware 11, when i compile the kdebase tarball (arts and kdelibs compiled fine) i run into this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RFNVFy28.html |
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| 14:14.10 | islamguidedotcom | is there a way to have a line separating nicknames and what is said in Konversation (as in Xchat) |
| 14:14.12 | Washboy | Google tells me nothing >< |
| 14:14.22 | annma | Washboy: first time you comile kde?* |
| 14:14.26 | annma | Washboy: first time you compile kde? |
| 14:14.45 | Washboy | annma: On this configuration? yes. On another distro? No. |
| 14:15.02 | annma | can you past the whole last compiling line? |
| 14:15.11 | Sho_ | islamguidedotcom: no |
| 14:15.43 | islamguidedotcom | Sho_, display screen's kinda messy... can this be done in ksirc? |
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| 14:16.00 | Sho_ | islamguidedotcom: I don't know, I neither use nor work on KSirc |
| 14:16.03 | Washboy | annma: compile line, nope. But the first line is the last "active" line so to speak. |
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| 14:16.19 | islamguidedotcom | Sho_, what do u use? |
| 14:16.25 | MrGrim | :P |
| 14:16.28 | Sho_ | islamguidedotcom: I use Konversation |
| 14:16.34 | islamguidedotcom | ah ok |
| 14:16.43 | Sho_ | (and develop it, for that matter) |
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| 14:16.59 | annma | Washboy: where did you install kdelibs? |
| 14:17.16 | Jucato | islamguidedotcom: Sho_ is the current maintainer of konversation :) |
| 14:17.26 | Jucato | (also the maintainer of Yakuake, iirc) |
| 14:17.57 | icwiener | If I get that Idea with the line right, it would really suck with long nicknames like islamguidedotcom. |
| 14:18.00 | annma | Sho_: my Konsole or Yakuake does not show the prompt, what happened? |
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| 14:19.05 | Sho_ | annma: Either the environment variable that holds bash's prompt layout, PS1, got damaged (i.e. is exported improperly by the files sourced on shell startup), or possibly the file describing Konsole's default session |
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| 14:19.15 | Jucato | Sho_: btw, I finally got compiled stuff to be detected by KDE. I don't know exactly what I did, but now it works (I think something with a wrong KDEDIRS line...) |
| 14:19.40 | Sho_ | Jucato: cool |
| 14:19.40 | annma | Sho_: It showed in 2 tabs but when I su anpother user it disappeared |
| 14:19.42 | Sho_ | Imrahil: Glad you like it :) |
| 14:19.43 | Washboy | annma: .... damned! I remember now, the kdelibs dir is not in the path... could that be the source of the problem? |
| 14:20.04 | annma | Washboy: doesn't Slackware have a manual? |
| 14:20.15 | annma | what is your kdelibs install dir? |
| 14:20.21 | Jucato | Sho_: compiled KPlayer from SVN as my second app. looks good. I'll play around with it for a few more days. might become my default :) |
| 14:20.27 | Washboy | annma: yes, but it doesnt solve compilation problems ;). |
| 14:20.33 | Washboy | Brb, g2g try something. |
| 14:20.34 | annma | what is your kdelibs install dir? |
| 14:20.54 | Jucato | (too bad I need to have mplayer installed too... another app installed that I don't actually/directly use...) |
| 14:20.59 | annma | Washboy: if you don't answer my questions i won't be able to help |
| 14:21.05 | annma | Washboy: no need to ask then |
| 14:21.33 | Imrahil | Jucato: that is one of the reasons I prefer kaffeine, since it just uses xinelib, cleaner imho |
| 14:22.06 | Sho_ | Jucato: Note that the actively developed version of KPlayer is in SourceForge CVS, not KDE SVN |
| 14:22.29 | Jucato | Imrahil: I used to just use kaffeine too, because it just worked... and was too lazy to try out others... but I've had some issues lately |
| 14:22.38 | Jucato | Sho_: ooops... I used the one on KDE SVN... :( |
| 14:22.39 | Sho_ | Jucato: If you use KPlayer, you -are- actively using MPlayer |
| 14:23.00 | Jucato | oh yeah... frontend... keep on forgetting that... |
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| 14:23.23 | Sho_ | Jucato: And unlike xine, MPlayer is not a library, i.e. it does in fact run |
| 14:23.28 | teclo- | Hi guys... How slow/fast will KDE be on a iBook at 600 MHz with 640 MB of RAM ? |
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| 14:23.43 | icwiener | Sho_: Wasn't that the other way around? sourceforge => old, KDE SVN => new? |
| 14:23.49 | Sho_ | teclo-: Usable for office/web/mail |
| 14:23.56 | Sho_ | icwiener: No |
| 14:24.14 | icwiener | Sho_: Ok, then I remember wrong. |
| 14:24.21 | Jucato | apparently :) |
| 14:24.34 | teclo- | yeah it's just for browsing the web, and typing stuff in openoffice writer |
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| 14:25.32 | Sho_ | teclo-: Should work fine, though you might want to use KOffice, since it's generally speedier and less resource-intensive than OpenOffice, and since you already got the KDE libraries loaded, you avoid the memory overhead of a different toolkit (OOos) |
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| 14:26.40 | dopez | i'm trying to figure out where i can change the setting so that 'run command' (alt-f2) will autocomplete the typed commands, instead of having to press tab first, anyone an idea ? |
| 14:27.30 | Jucato | right-click on the text input field? |
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| 14:27.46 | Jucato | right-click -> Text completion ? |
| 14:27.57 | teclo- | Sho_: well I prefer the interface of openoffice... but I don't wanna troll :) ... Indeed koffice will prolly be less resource-intensive, and will take much less space on the hard drive... |
| 14:28.11 | XVampireX | I managed to partially fix it |
| 14:28.13 | XVampireX | But the only key that works with ctrl+alt+k |
| 14:28.20 | dopez | *ouch* should have tried that, thank you Jucato :) |
| 14:28.31 | Sho_ | teclo-: Well, of course you should use what you prefer - just outlining possible advantages |
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| 14:29.18 | teclo- | what I know is that I *dont* wanna run MacOSX. I like its internals, but I don't like its GUI, not enough customizable. Also there's nothing more memory-hungry than MacOSX... |
| 14:29.31 | Washboy | annma: sorry. The computer that i compile kde on is in the cellar. So i have to run up and down ><. kdelibs should have installed in /usr/local/kde/lib, as far as i can tell. I just ran configure without any options. |
| 14:30.10 | annma | in /usr/local then |
| 14:30.26 | annma | Washboy: redo make install iin kdelibs and look |
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| 14:31.28 | Jucato | wb annma :) |
| 14:31.31 | annma | Sho_: my prompt is back after a reboot |
| 14:31.37 | annma | weird |
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| 14:31.45 | Washboy | Sorry, but itll be a wait :/... i just reran configure with a specified prefix, sorry. ><. |
| 14:32.14 | annma | you have no previous kde install? |
| 14:32.20 | Washboy | Nope. |
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| 14:39.28 | Imrahil | Sho_: was wondering if you would entertain an idea I had for konversation? when using the option for close buttons on tabs and switching between tabs with the alt-# shortcuts it is hard to know the number of the tab. propose to extend the close buttons with a numeric overlay, perhaps only when the alt modifier is pressed. clear and workable? I was thinking of submitting a patch. |
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| 14:40.54 | Sho_ | Imrahil: Is that really useful? The tabs already underline their access keys, after all |
| 14:41.17 | Jucato | underline? |
| 14:41.30 | Sho_ | Imrahil: Other than that, I'd probably prefer standard tooltips consistent with KHTML's access key visualization on CTRL |
| 14:41.55 | Sho_ | Jucato: The treelist doesn't, presently |
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| 14:41.59 | Jucato | aah |
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| 14:42.49 | swanfl | hello Jucato can you help me with setting up my logitech webcam? |
| 14:43.22 | MrRagga | hi, i would like to apply akregator to use with firefox rss feeds. but when i choose within firefox to use akregator as the application, nothing happens if i subscribe to a feed |
| 14:43.38 | Jucato | swanfl: sorry... know nothing about those... |
| 14:43.50 | swanfl | ok, thanks anyway |
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| 14:44.31 | icwiener | MrRagga: I know the problem... and judged firefox for that. ;) But I do not know whose fault it is. :( |
| 14:45.05 | MrGrim | MrRagga: try drag 'n drop |
| 14:45.54 | MrRagga | icwiener: ok, that's a pity. i tried akreagtor -a in firefox, but that doesn't work too |
| 14:46.03 | icwiener | MrGrim: akregator knows (and needs?) the "--addfeed URL" switch but I saw no way to give it through firefox. |
| 14:46.46 | MrGrim | I mean.. if firefox has the little icon like konqi you may be able to drag from the icon into akregators tree view.. maybe even directly on a folder |
| 14:46.58 | MrRagga | icwiener: maybe it could be down via a little shell script? |
| 14:47.02 | MrGrim | tho non kde app shave spotty support for things like that |
| 14:47.03 | icwiener | MrGrim: http://www.trebol-a.com/2006/11/01/feed-de-firefox-a-akregator/ :D |
| 14:47.05 | MrGrim | but it's worth a shot |
| 14:47.20 | MrRagga | liferea has a mozilla-akregator connection |
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| 14:47.34 | icwiener | MrGrim: I do not understand a word, but there is a script, that should work. :) |
| 14:47.43 | MrGrim | drag and drop |
| 14:47.43 | MrRagga | icwiener: ahh, thanks |
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| 14:48.02 | MrGrim | one of the most convenient and useful ideas ever conceived in the GUI world |
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| 14:48.22 | MrGrim | one which KDE does exceptionally well |
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| 14:49.07 | XVampireX | How do I change ctrl+alt+k into something else? |
| 14:49.12 | XVampireX | to switch between groups |
| 14:49.24 | XVampireX | because the one in xkb options in kcontrol doesn't work, none of the keys there work. |
| 14:50.13 | MrRagga | icwiener: the script works fine, thanks |
| 14:50.34 | XVampireX | Where does kxkb look for the key ctrl+alt+k ? |
| 14:50.39 | icwiener | MrRagga: Cool, setting it up for me as well. :) |
| 14:51.17 | Jucato | XVampireX: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts |
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| 14:53.17 | XVampireX | It doesn't let me change into anything normal... |
| 14:54.05 | XVampireX | Can I change it into alt+shift somehow? :D |
| 14:54.41 | Jucato | (next keyboard layout) |
| 14:55.08 | XVampireX | So much for usability... |
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| 14:56.32 | MrGrim | XVampireX: ever heard of the saying "Don't bite the hand that feeds you"? |
| 14:56.55 | XVampireX | No, but I can't, I'm a vampire ;) |
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| 14:57.50 | MrGrim | popping off a snide quip every time a free program doesn't meet your particular requirements is not the best way to build support for your side |
| 14:58.51 | XVampireX | The closest thing I could get it to alt+shift was alt+> |
| 14:58.59 | XVampireX | אני שונא את כולכם |
| 14:59.07 | XVampireX | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.48 | Jucato | トチハチイスカイカチテステミスナ< <-- means nothing... just showing the result... |
| 15:00.11 | XVampireX | err, alt+< |
| 15:00.16 | MrGrim | Jucato: it worked |
| 15:00.35 | XVampireX | ג'וקטו... אני כותב בעיברית |
| 15:00.50 | MrGrim | you probably don't have a font installed that supports those characters |
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| 15:00.58 | XVampireX | lol |
| 15:00.59 | MrGrim | konvi even shows it right to left as it should be |
| 15:01.02 | XVampireX | It's hebrew |
| 15:01.22 | Jucato | I just don't have the fonts for hebrew. but it works (I see boxes) |
| 15:01.26 | XVampireX | lol |
| 15:01.32 | XVampireX | hebrew is not boxes :D |
| 15:01.43 | MrGrim | I'm frequently amazed at just how many characters this font has |
| 15:01.44 | Jucato | duh |
| 15:01.50 | Jucato | I know that |
| 15:01.54 | MrGrim | japanese, chinese, arabic, hebrew, etc. |
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| 15:02.19 | Jucato | I purposely didn't install the default fonts that came with the distro |
| 15:02.28 | Jucato | anyway. time to hit the sack. bye!! |
| 15:02.31 | MrGrim | it wouldn't surprise me if it had egyptian hieroglyphics |
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| 15:03.17 | MrGrim | not to mention the regular latin alphabet looks awesome in it.. and it's bitmap, and it's fixed width |
| 15:03.17 | MrGrim | the perfect irc/konsole font |
| 15:03.36 | MrGrim | Terminus ftw |
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| 15:08.26 | XVampireX | What does fixed width mean? :P |
| 15:08.41 | MrGrim | all characters are the same width |
| 15:08.53 | MrGrim | like a console |
| 15:09.06 | MrGrim | and since ascii art is common on irc I use it for irc too |
| 15:09.12 | XVampireX | Don't know, don't really notice the difference |
| 15:09.13 | MrGrim | plus irc just looks weird with a variable width font |
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| 15:10.37 | icwiener | XVampireX: An 'i' is the same width as an 'm'. You have to notice that. :) |
| 15:11.00 | wolsni | maybe he doesn't look at the letters when he's reading |
| 15:11.11 | XVampireX | Yeah, I look at the words :D |
| 15:11.12 | tafsen | How do I get Opera to open the new url's I press instead of Firefox? |
| 15:11.27 | XVampireX | tafsen: default applications |
| 15:11.32 | annma | tafsen: in KControl KDE Components |
| 15:11.35 | XVampireX | yeah |
| 15:11.45 | pinotree | annma: with opera? |
| 15:11.58 | pinotree | oh |
| 15:12.00 | XVampireX | kxkb still should fix this thing |
| 15:12.07 | annma | Component Choosser |
| 15:12.11 | annma | -s |
| 15:12.28 | pinotree | :P |
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| 15:13.06 | tafsen | yeah. But the commando for using Firefox is "firefox -new-tab %u" |
| 15:13.21 | annma | tafsen: explain better thne |
| 15:13.21 | tafsen | I want the same to work with opera(new links = new tab , same window) |
| 15:13.37 | annma | tafsen: you are in a KDE channel and KDE browser is Konqueror |
| 15:13.50 | annma | open opera settings and look |
| 15:13.57 | tafsen | annma, sorry for asking then... |
| 15:13.57 | shadok | and above all in a gpl-software channel :) |
| 15:14.12 | annma | opera is not gpl? |
| 15:14.30 | shadok | hum not a all |
| 15:14.36 | shadok | License: OPERA-9.0 |
| 15:15.06 | shadok | not even opensource |
| 15:15.17 | shadok | just freeware |
| 15:15.20 | annma | tafsen: you can make opera your default browser in kdse but the rest of config is in opera |
| 15:16.43 | XVampireX | alphabet is coming from alpha-beta or from aleph-bet in hebrew? :P |
| 15:16.55 | shadok | yep XVampireX |
| 15:17.00 | shadok | arf |
| 15:17.13 | XVampireX | which one? |
| 15:17.16 | shadok | i think the greek words come from hebrew |
| 15:17.48 | XVampireX | Oh, gotta check this out in wiki :D |
| 15:17.59 | shadok | but alphabet in english is from greek |
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| 15:18.57 | shadok | (even in french which is a latin language we use alphabet) |
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| 15:20.11 | shadok | (a good excuse to speak english as i do ^^ |
| 15:20.35 | XVampireX | omg.... this is really awkward |
| 15:20.44 | XVampireX | alt+letter is so awkward |
| 15:21.24 | shadok | huh ? |
| 15:21.42 | Kyral | Hey anyone know how to set Active mode for Konq's FTP interface? |
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| 15:23.31 | XVampireX | NOO! |
| 15:23.42 | XVampireX | Konq is kparts based |
| 15:23.43 | MrGrim | control center -> internet & network -> connection preferences |
| 15:23.50 | XVampireX | Yes :P |
| 15:23.55 | XVampireX | kcontrol |
| 15:24.11 | MrGrim | I actually had no idea, but took all of 5 seconds to find it.. |
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| 15:24.23 | Kyral | ty MrGrim :D |
| 15:24.37 | Kyral | Yah I was just lazy (b/c I'm doing something else ATM) |
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| 15:30.33 | sdogi | hello |
| 15:30.54 | sdogi | i'm wondering here... i see that konqueror has some actions when you right click on the file... can i somehow add more actions there? |
| 15:32.38 | MrGrim | sdogi: there was an article on dot.kde.org about that some time ago |
| 15:32.44 | MrGrim | search the archives for context menu |
| 15:32.48 | MrGrim | or something like that |
| 15:32.52 | MrGrim | might be documented elsewhere too |
| 15:33.34 | sdogi | ok. thanks, i'll check it out |
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| 15:47.18 | Ze_M | can anyone tell me what kpalmdoc buildrequires? |
| 15:47.45 | annma | "kontact |
| 15:47.51 | annma | #kontact |
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| 15:48.10 | annma | and no need to send 2 mails about that |
| 15:48.20 | Ze_M | they 2 different mails |
| 15:48.24 | annma | no |
| 15:48.30 | annma | same topic |
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| 15:48.40 | Ze_M | one dont even have a subject |
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| 15:48.43 | annma | did you pass through your previous error then? |
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| 15:48.51 | Ze_M | thats why i did sent another but its a litle different |
| 15:49.23 | Ze_M | annma: yes |
| 15:49.47 | annma | what was it then? |
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| 15:56.47 | pacho2 | Is there any configure option for change where icons and meny entries are placed when I compile kde apps like kdvi, konqueror... |
| 15:56.48 | pacho2 | ? |
| 15:56.51 | pacho2 | thanks |
| 15:57.38 | annma | pacho2: what is your problem? |
| 15:57.47 | pacho2 | I am a gentoo user |
| 15:57.50 | pacho2 | and I wantr |
| 15:57.52 | pacho2 | want |
| 15:58.11 | pacho2 | that kde apps install their menu entries in /usr/share/applications |
| 15:58.24 | pacho2 | and their icons in /usr/share/icons (or a subdirectory) |
| 15:58.44 | pacho2 | for being able to view these menu entries from gnome/xfce menus |
| 15:58.45 | annma | yes so you set KDEDIR to be /usr |
| 15:58.58 | annma | ./configure --prefix=/usr |
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| 15:59.16 | annma | you need to do that for kdelibs and all though |
| 15:59.23 | pacho2 | is not available a "more specific" prefix for this purpose? |
| 15:59.37 | pacho2 | Should I change general KDE prefix? |
| 15:59.37 | annma | maybe |
| 15:59.43 | annma | do: ./configure --help |
| 15:59.49 | annma | and read the options |
| 16:00.27 | pacho2 | I didn't find anything related to menu entries and icons prefixes :-/ |
| 16:00.57 | annma | why woulod gnome find menus only in /usr? |
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| 16:01.43 | pacho2 | seems that gnome and xfce find menus in /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/applnk :-/ |
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| 16:02.25 | mni | anma, |
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| 16:02.37 | annma | pacho2: set your XDG vars maybe |
| 16:02.46 | pacho2 | I will check it |
| 16:02.59 | pacho2 | are they in etc? |
| 16:03.08 | Kyral | Ah the joys of packing for home |
| 16:03.47 | Bille | Kyral: tar cvjf suitcase.tar.bz2 * ? |
| 16:04.00 | Kyral | lol |
| 16:04.07 | mni | annma:How is work? |
| 16:04.28 | Kyral | With the highest compression level possible :D |
| 16:05.06 | annma | fine, mni and you? |
| 16:05.24 | mni | fine |
| 16:05.39 | mni | Yet i didn't hear from kde |
| 16:05.39 | annma | :) |
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| 16:05.52 | pacho2 | I should go out |
| 16:05.53 | pacho2 | thanks |
| 16:05.55 | vignesh | hey.. |
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| 16:05.57 | vignesh | i use kopete and all my other friends use yahoo messenger on windows.. so when they start a conference i don`t get the invitation |
| 16:06.01 | vignesh | my kopete version is 0.10.3 |
| 16:06.03 | vignesh | any help ? |
| 16:06.14 | annma | mni: because you did not ask a question |
| 16:06.28 | annma | vignesh: #kopete |
| 16:06.36 | vignesh | i am there too annma |
| 16:06.37 | mni | but i am still continue with my work i.e translation |
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| 16:06.42 | vignesh | i am kdeuser^ annma |
| 16:06.45 | annma | mni: yes |
| 16:06.48 | vignesh | remember me ? |
| 16:06.50 | annma | hi vignesh |
| 16:06.55 | vignesh | hi |
| 16:06.57 | annma | :) |
| 16:07.00 | vignesh | my real name is Vignesh |
| 16:07.02 | mni | But i ask the question if i can remember |
| 16:07.47 | mni | They have even publish my mail on their mailing list |
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| 16:08.01 | annma | mni: yes I saw it |
| 16:08.13 | annma | mni: I htink nobody understood your question |
| 16:08.25 | mni | I dont know whats wrong |
| 16:08.30 | mni | may be |
| 16:08.44 | mni | should i send another mail? |
| 16:09.14 | mni | on the same topic? |
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| 16:09.47 | annma | what is your question exactly? |
| 16:10.31 | mni | Translation of KDE into Hausa Language |
| 16:11.12 | annma | that's not a question, mni |
| 16:11.19 | mni | ok |
| 16:11.49 | annma | mni: people should have welcome you maybe but they are all busy |
| 16:11.49 | annma | the list is never very active |
| 16:12.08 | annma | see when I asked about adding a doc I only got 2 answers |
| 16:12.30 | mni | please what should i do? |
| 16:12.46 | mni | yes. |
| 16:13.42 | mni | But why? |
| 16:14.36 | annma | when you have enough translation files you should put them in svn |
| 16:15.07 | annma | follow the translation howto |
| 16:15.08 | mni | But i dont have acesses to the cvs |
| 16:15.15 | mni | ok |
| 16:16.57 | annma | i think nobody works on your language |
| 16:17.05 | mni | yes |
| 16:17.07 | annma | so you will be hausa team leader |
| 16:17.15 | mni | ok |
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| 16:18.06 | annma | you can contact Claudiu Costin to have Hausa listed on the page |
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| 16:18.38 | mni | i have mailed him last week |
| 16:18.47 | annma | e |
| 16:18.52 | mni | but no response from him |
| 16:18.54 | annma | he did not add it yet? |
| 16:19.02 | annma | maybe mail him again |
| 16:19.46 | migi | hello. which CMake section and flags in CMakeLists.txt is responsible for generating and linking files in the CMakeFiles/CMakeRelink.dir/ directory? |
| 16:20.00 | mni | ok |
| 16:20.11 | mni | i will mail him again |
| 16:20.44 | annma | yes |
| 16:20.54 | annma | maybe CC to kde-i18n |
| 16:21.08 | annma | don't put personal details |
| 16:21.29 | annma | if Claudiu is not active anymore someone will know |
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| 16:22.14 | mni | you mean i should not include my details |
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| 16:23.53 | smallfoot- | Winkey+M minimizes all windows? |
| 16:23.54 | annma | not in a mailing list, mni |
| 16:23.57 | mni | if i have problem i will contact you |
| 16:23.57 | smallfoot- | Winkey+L logs out? |
| 16:24.09 | mni | ok |
| 16:24.19 | annma | mni: yes |
| 16:24.23 | annma | good luck |
| 16:24.52 | mni | Thanks |
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| 16:26.39 | smallfoot- | make it |
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| 16:48.30 | imagine | I'm havin a problem with my trash bin, I wanna clean it.. but there is empty folders I can't delete for good, it says access denied... |
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| 16:50.27 | Q-collective | imagine: open konsole -> su - -> rm -rf /path/to/trashdir |
| 16:50.33 | gregarei | i cant figure out how to use dcop cross-user, i am writing a script to control my music from a website and i get an error that the user could not open network socket |
| 16:50.35 | Kyral | This is why I always bypass Trash and use Delete :D |
| 16:50.45 | Q-collective | Kyral: same :) |
| 16:50.56 | imagine | what's the path to my trashdir? trash:/ ? |
| 16:51.17 | Kyral | Meh I wish I could ditch Noatun |
| 16:51.40 | gregarei | amarok, i would use mplayer if i had a method of communicating to it |
| 16:51.40 | imagine | damn didn't work |
| 16:52.07 | Kyral | hmm anyone ever build kdemultimedia from scratch? |
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| 16:52.28 | Kyral | (or any of the KDE Components for that matter) |
| 16:53.14 | imagine | woot it worked ty ! |
| 16:54.08 | Kyral | I wanna know if you can ./configure out some programs from the split package |
| 16:54.26 | gregarei | typically ./configure --help is what you wanna look at |
| 16:54.48 | Kyral | yah but that would mean me going to root and jumping into ABS and downloading the source ball :P |
| 16:55.49 | Kyral | Ah what the hell |
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| 16:58.42 | Kyral | meh there is no option in ./configure --help about not compiling some programs |
| 16:59.06 | annma | Kyral: what's up? |
| 16:59.12 | annma | gentoo? |
| 16:59.16 | Kyral | Nope Arch |
| 16:59.32 | Kyral | I'm just trying to prune the system to programs I use |
| 16:59.41 | Kyral | And I realized I don't use half the programs in the KDE menus |
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| 17:00.25 | annma | make uninstall in programs you don't want |
| 17:00.38 | annma | if you still have the source |
| 17:00.52 | Kyral | yah I can |
| 17:00.55 | Kyral | but I'm lazy lol |
| 17:01.10 | annma | lazy? |
| 17:01.19 | annma | lazy to type make uninstall? |
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| 17:01.34 | hollywoodb | or even use checkinstall if you're tgz/deb/rpm |
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| 17:01.50 | Kyral | hollywoodb: Mesa on Arch :D |
| 17:01.50 | annma | you want to snap your fingers and your system will clean itself? |
| 17:02.03 | Kyral | annma: No, I'm spoiled by Apache's ./configure :D |
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| 17:04.15 | annma | you can also add something in the Makefile.am if you don't want to build specific progs in the future Kyral |
| 17:04.28 | Kyral | yah I know |
| 17:04.45 | Kyral | Actually I prolly don't never NEED kdemultimedia... |
| 17:05.15 | Kyral | I just realized AmaroK, Kaffeine, and Codiene aren't in it (And those are the three main multimedia programs I use) |
| 17:05.20 | annma | just don't build the whole module then |
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| 17:05.44 | annma | that's why other distros split packages Kyral |
| 17:05.57 | Kyral | (Excuse my idiocy, I just finished the semester, I don't have to think for a week :D) |
| 17:06.27 | annma | I go for dinner |
| 17:06.31 | annma | bye all |
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| 17:22.44 | _cosmo | hi all |
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| 17:34.57 | swanfl | can anyone help me with my logitech quickcam? |
| 17:35.17 | LiquidNerd | swanfl: what distro are you using? |
| 17:35.44 | swanfl | kubuntu edgy using the 2.6.19 kernel |
| 17:35.45 | pinotree | hey PhilRod |
| 17:35.52 | LiquidNerd | it's broken in edgy |
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| 17:36.03 | swanfl | happy happy joy joy |
| 17:36.03 | pinotree | swanfl: --> #kubuntu |
| 17:36.19 | LiquidNerd | heh.. I was looking into about 2 weeks ago |
| 17:36.20 | PhilRod | hiya pinotree |
| 17:36.36 | swanfl | pinotree, for just kopete or all my questions? |
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| 17:36.59 | pinotree | well you didn't say that was a "problem with kopete" |
| 17:37.24 | pinotree | if kopete does not see your webcam, then indeed you should ask in #kubuntu |
| 17:37.58 | pinotree | if kopete sees it, but has other issues with it, then it might be worth asking in #kopete |
| 17:38.17 | pinotree | for the other kde-related question, here you go |
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| 17:38.51 | Q-collective | Sho_: can I switch off the textballoons when someone chats in pm chat when I'm looking in that pm chat? It's a bit annoying really :( |
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| 17:39.21 | pinotree | Q-collective: right click on the tab -> uncheck "enable notifications" |
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| 17:40.38 | Q-collective | pinotree: no, I don't want to disable them, I want to disable them only for pm chat |
| 17:42.19 | Q-collective | pinotree: hmm, do I have to do this for every pm now? |
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| 17:46.08 | pinotree | Q-collective: or just wait for Sho_ ;) |
| 17:47.14 | Q-collective | willdo :p |
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| 17:52.53 | hydrogen | i'd assume its a bug |
| 17:53.00 | hydrogen | bubble notifications being OSD? |
| 17:53.08 | hydrogen | they don't show up for highlights if one in the channel |
| 17:53.16 | hydrogen | so i'd assume that it should be the same for pm's if one is in the pm |
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| 17:57.31 | bkudria | does there exist a dcop call that makes kontact switch to a specific component? |
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| 19:07.05 | rindolf | Hi all! |
| 19:07.43 | rindolf | Opening the URL http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2006/12/telling-truth-about-telling-fact.html crashes my konqueror in KDE 3.5.4 (Mandriva and Vanilla) on Mandriva 2007. Can you reproduce it? |
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| 19:21.58 | PhilRod | rindolf: no crash here (svn from about a week ago) |
| 19:22.20 | PhilRod | but is there any flash or something on that page? I don't have flash here |
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| 19:26.42 | Dunedan | hm? |
| 19:26.52 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 19:27.00 | Q-collective | where is dolphin.kde.org? :p |
| 19:27.37 | qupada | Q-collective: so long, and thanks for all the fish |
| 19:27.50 | Q-collective | meh (: |
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| 19:33.35 | rindolf | PhilRod: I don't have flash enabled for Konqi either. |
| 19:33.59 | rindolf | PhilRod: thanks for checking. |
| 19:34.54 | PhilOut | rindolf: you can probably find someone in #kde-devel with recent svn who can also check |
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| 19:49.24 | rindolf | PhilOut: I'm interested in KDE 3.5.x. |
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| 20:02.09 | pinotree | ~root |
| 20:02.11 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, root is not a Good Thing to use when using IRC. Please use a different account. You will probably not be able to speak until change your user account. |
| 20:02.15 | root | ؟ |
| 20:02.16 | pinotree | root: ^^^ |
| 20:02.25 | pinotree | please don't irc as root |
| 20:03.14 | oGALAXYo | heh |
| 20:03.17 | oGALAXYo | what a lamer |
| 20:04.24 | Q-collective | pinotree++ |
| 20:04.43 | Q-collective | .karma pinotree |
| 20:04.44 | DDB | q-collective: the karma of pinotree is 1.0 |
| 20:04.46 | Q-collective | ;) |
| 20:04.55 | pinotree | ~karma pinotree |
| 20:04.55 | apt | pinotree has neutral karma |
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| 20:06.57 | Q-collective | silly apt, don't you see how kool pinotree is?! :p |
| 20:09.25 | imagine | hey if I wanna change from XGL to nvidia, I only need to switch it with beryl-manager? or I need to kill Xgl and restart? |
| 20:09.43 | Imrahil | rindolf: you say no flash for konqi in kde 3.5.4? |
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| 20:10.52 | Imrahil | rindolf: nevermind misread |
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| 20:15.24 | Imrahil | ~karma Imrahil |
| 20:15.24 | apt | imrahil has neutral karma |
| 20:16.57 | pinotree | imagine: please ask in your distro channel, that is not related to kde |
| 20:18.50 | imagine | pinotree: sry .. haha I thought I was in #beryl ;) |
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| 20:18.58 | pinotree | np |
| 20:19.16 | Polly_Morf | Am I the only one experiencing problems with kopete notifications since kde 3.5.5? The bubbles wont show.. |
| 20:19.27 | pinotree | Polly_Morf: --> #kopete |
| 20:19.32 | Polly_Morf | ah |
| 20:19.38 | Polly_Morf | there is one of those too :D |
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| 20:25.55 | SJr|Work | Hmmmm what commmand can I execute to change the theme of KDE? |
| 20:27.48 | oGALAXYo | control center |
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| 20:29.00 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Hm it shouldn't OSD for focussed tabs |
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| 20:37.54 | serialpinguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.03 | serialpinguin | still missing,, any suggestions , were I can see my task bar again ? |
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| 20:39.59 | imagine | alt+f2 then type "kicker" |
| 20:40.04 | imagine | hehe might helkp |
| 20:41.48 | serialpinguin | imagine: thx |
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| 20:58.07 | tricks | hello how can i automatic startup superkaramba in my kde? |
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| 20:58.50 | tricks | any suggestions ??? Please and thank you |
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| 21:00.39 | oGALAXYo | tricks: what kde version, what distro ? |
| 21:02.15 | Q-collective | [21:29:00] <Sho_> Q-collective: Hm it shouldn't OSD for focussed tabs |
| 21:02.18 | Q-collective | it does do |
| 21:02.22 | Q-collective | with konv 1.0.1 |
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| 21:04.21 | tricks | kde 3.5 |
| 21:04.23 | tricks | gentoo distro |
| 21:04.59 | tricks | i know that there is the Autostart directory |
| 21:05.12 | tricks | but i don't know what to put in there? a shortcut or something? |
| 21:05.18 | oGALAXYo | what superkaramba do we speak about here ? |
| 21:05.47 | tricks | i'll tell you in a minute |
| 21:06.45 | tricks | it's 3.5.5 |
| 21:06.47 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Bug then, I guess ... since I don't use the OSD I don't notice |
| 21:06.54 | oGALAXYo | <oGALAXYo> what superkaramba do we speak about here ? |
| 21:06.59 | tricks | it's 3.5.5 |
| 21:07.12 | oGALAXYo | so its the one that comes with kde 3.5.5 ? |
| 21:07.17 | Q-collective | Sho_: hereby noticed ;) |
| 21:07.19 | tricks | yeah right |
| 21:07.47 | oGALAXYo | tricks: ok just wanted to be sure here.. there are still people who compile the old ones.. |
| 21:07.58 | Sho_ | Q-collective: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98735 ... apparently I already tried once to reproduce it and couldn't |
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| 21:09.27 | Q-collective | Sho_: hmm, odd |
| 21:09.55 | Sho_ | Q-collective: I'll look into it after Christmas ... I'm already in holiday mode ;) |
| 21:10.16 | Q-collective | hehe, then I won't bug you any longer :p |
| 21:10.34 | Sho_ | Q-collective: Bugging the bug tracker is always a good idea ;) |
| 21:10.45 | Sho_ | that way things don't fall through the cracks |
| 21:10.54 | Q-collective | true that |
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| 21:11.06 | tricks | so dude any suggestions? |
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| 21:18.08 | XVampireX | Does anyone here use Opera? |
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| 21:31.03 | Q-collective | XVampireX: yes? |
| 21:31.20 | XVampireX | Can I somehow make Opera apply my Qt theme to the pages like in konq? |
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| 21:48.22 | hlieberman | Is there any news on Hashcash integration into kmail? (Bug 78816) |
| 21:48.41 | pinotree | hlieberman: --> #kontact |
| 21:48.49 | hlieberman | Kay! :) |
| 21:48.55 | hlieberman | Sorry to bother. |
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| 22:06.03 | robert_ | [amsg] brb, rebooting X |
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| 22:17.21 | Agiofws | how do i install a dictionary in abiword any help ? |
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| 22:17.39 | pinotree | no help |
| 22:17.47 | pinotree | as abiword is not a kde application |
| 22:18.07 | pinotree | you could ask in #gnome, or #abiword if exists |
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| 22:23.02 | bluekb | Which application is responsible for the screensaver? It seems to sometimes forget to lock after the specified interval--which is a Very Bad Thing |
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| 22:24.20 | Jahboy | how do I get IceWM themes to work with KDE 3.5. Do they work with theme manager? |
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| 22:28.12 | pinotree | ~kdewm |
| 22:28.15 | apt | You can change the window manager used by KDE with the $KDEWM environment variable. See http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ |
| 22:28.18 | pinotree | Jahboy: ^ |
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| 22:29.00 | Jahboy | thanks |
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| 22:30.50 | XVampireX | שלום |
| 22:33.56 | Jahboy | XVampireX, is that Hebrew? |
| 22:34.20 | XVampireX | yes sir |
| 22:34.27 | Jahboy | nice |
| 22:34.40 | Jahboy | I took Koine Greek in College |
| 22:34.42 | XVampireX | alt+shift too |
| 22:34.46 | Jahboy | that's as close as I come to that language |
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| 22:36.57 | Imrahil | Sho_: is there a dcop call to activate a given tab? such as konsole exposing calls for activatesession(sessionId) |
| 22:37.05 | Sho_ | Imrahil: No |
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| 22:46.56 | unity | does anyone know if there is a way to make digikam view and process RAW pictures? |
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| 22:51.26 | aseigo | unity: yes. http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-graphics/digikam/using-kapp-fileformatsupport.html |
| 22:51.47 | aseigo | unity: search for "raw" on that page |
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| 22:52.51 | unity | aseigo: thanks |
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| 22:54.55 | XVampireX | aseigo: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99009 |
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| 22:55.25 | XVampireX | please fix for 3.5.6 |
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| 23:14.39 | yumigator | Is there any way to have Konqueror open separate windows for different profiles? |
| 23:14.59 | yumigator | For example, when I'm using it as a web browser, I want a new window when I click on my desktop links, not a new tab. |
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| 23:15.29 | yumigator | However, I'd still like my links to be opened in new tabs if i'm using the web browing profile. |
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| 23:17.45 | JonJ | Are there any known problems with gmail and kmail? |
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| 23:25.11 | JohnFlux | JonJ: yeah |
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| 23:25.23 | JohnFlux | JonJ: oh wait, gmail and kmail? |
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| 23:25.35 | JohnFlux | JonJ: i didn't know you could use gmail in kmail |
| 23:26.36 | bluekb | I had kmail fetch mail from the gmail pop server for several months without problems. |
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| 23:32.11 | stoned | hi |
| 23:32.20 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | anyone can help with knetwork manager failing to compile ? i use the svn build script provided by them..... http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hGRiEd23.html |
| 23:33.51 | PhilRod | FaeLLe[gentoo]: run 'make' manually in that directory. Do you get the same error? |
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| 23:35.04 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | PhilRod, i will try |
| 23:35.07 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | sec |
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| 23:36.00 | XVampireX | ebuilds :P |
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| 23:36.53 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | XVampireX, if you can find me one :D |
| 23:37.38 | XVampireX | http://www.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=225&Itemid=2 |
| 23:37.50 | XVampireX | Don't know if it will help |
| 23:38.02 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | XVampireX, their ebuild needs unstable dbus .... |
| 23:38.12 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | i dont run ~arch |
| 23:38.29 | XVampireX | okey |
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| 23:40.13 | XVampireX | http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/gentopia/browser/overlay/kde-misc/knetworkmanager/Manifest?rev=572 |
| 23:41.15 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | XVampireX, gentopia ebuild for it needs you to use their own dbus which installs a few other dbus's which dont work with some apps :p |
| 23:41.43 | XVampireX | MAKE YOUR OWN DAMN EBUILD |
| 23:41.58 | XVampireX | I don't know |
| 23:42.06 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | chill dude |
| 23:42.11 | XVampireX | It seems like it's generating configure script a few times there |
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| 23:44.10 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | let me nopaste you the build script |
| 23:44.31 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/rNG9Ug18.html |
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| 23:45.42 | PhilRod | the build script looks correct. Could be an autohell version problem |
| 23:45.50 | XVampireX | Doesn't look bad |
| 23:46.09 | XVampireX | autohell? :P |
| 23:46.52 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | automake ? |
| 23:47.22 | FaeLLe[gentoo] | on version 1.9.6-r2 of automake.... its the latest stable version |
| 23:52.24 | PhilRod | that might be the reason |
| 23:52.46 | PhilRod | (lack of) backwards-compatibility between autohell versions is known to cause problems |
| 23:53.03 | XVampireX | that's why you call it autohell? :D |
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| 23:53.28 | benJIman | It's autohell because it takes longer to work out how to use it than to write the code |
| 23:53.47 | XVampireX | haha |
| 23:54.43 | Renze | cmake is much better than autohell, yes? |
| 23:55.05 | benJIman | I've not had much experience with it, allegedly |
| 23:57.14 | Renze | Agiofws: #gnome |
| 23:57.15 | PhilRod | cmake has one very annoying feature, from an end-user POV: running "cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/somedir" actually creates a directory called "~" |
| 23:57.31 | Agiofws | i am there |
| 23:57.34 | PhilRod | (actually, that's probably a bash problem, but one that happened not to turn up with ./configure) |
| 23:58.06 | PhilRod | suffice to say that trying to remove that directory can have unfortunate consequences, as I nearly found out |
| 23:58.08 | MinceR | weird. |
| 23:58.11 | MinceR | lol |
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| 23:58.17 | MinceR | rmdir \~ |
| 23:58.47 | PhilRod | MinceR: I suspect that configure has some code inside it to manually look at the path and do ~ replacement |
| 23:58.55 | PhilRod | which cmake doesn't bother with |
| 23:59.02 | PhilRod | which is fair enough, I guess |
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| 23:59.33 | PhilRod | well, I got as far as pressing Enter before I even thought about ~ expanding to something else |
| 23:59.34 | pinotree | PhilRod: use $HOME as "workaround" |
| 23:59.53 | PhilRod | pinotree: yeah, I will in future - once bitten, twice shy, and all that |
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