IRC log for #iteam on 20090416

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01:00.57DARKGuyJesus!
01:01.02DARKGuyAw, KIAaze's not on :(
01:09.15JudoYou rang?
01:10.11adamorjamesDARKGuy: you stayed late at work eh?
01:10.59DARKGuylol Judo
01:11.04DARKGuyyup
01:11.13DARKGuylong days this week
01:11.39DARKGuyI like it, too. My boss is the coolest boss ever
01:13.31adamorjamesDARKGuy: What have you been achieving at work?
01:13.56adamorjamesany major progress that will give you company the leading edge?
01:14.00adamorjames*your
01:14.06adamorjames>.>
01:15.21DARKGuyadamorjames, I'm one of the leading programmers in creating every new app in .NET and some systems they want to improve and redo in .NET because ASP classic just sucks
01:15.58adamorjamesthat's what it is about when you work for a company! you don't work just to get money, you work to get more money by making the business you work for be in a good light.. if you just follow what other businesses do and don't think for yourself you will just be another working that has no value
01:16.00DARKGuyand getting points with your boss means that in my possible evaluation this 22th because of the end of my contract might come up real good and I might get a raise
01:16.16adamorjames*another worker
01:16.31adamorjamesDARKGuy: so it's going well eh?
01:16.36DARKGuypretty good right now
01:16.41DARKGuyat least the tempest is over
01:16.48DARKGuynow I can think clearly and with less stress
01:16.55DARKGuythough, the system -must- be finished by friday
01:16.59Judo<3 Naruto
01:17.02adamorjamesDARKGuy: so you have pride in your work?
01:17.13adamorjamesDARKGuy: it's the best you can possibly do?
01:17.18adamorjamesxD
01:17.23DARKGuythe client is gonna have a VIP presentation this monday then they'll do presentations all over the country, so my app is like, important
01:17.41DARKGuyadamorjames, well, it's not the best because some stuff isn't in my hands, but certainly my first and for now best project in ASP.NET
01:17.57adamorjamesahh DG
01:17.59DARKGuyand I've learnt stuff about relational databases, ASM, stored procedures, triggers, constraints, primary keys, etc.
01:18.34adamorjamessee? other people will drag you down! you can't let the boss think the stuff you are doing sux because some idiot doesn't give his or her best
01:19.11DARKGuywell I must do what the client wants
01:19.23DARKGuybut most of the time I'll try to overcome it
01:19.24DARKGuyI mean
01:19.32DARKGuyprovide alternatives or suggestions that they (and I) might like
01:19.54DARKGuyso we're both happy, and I have to keep my boss happy, so my suggestions or/and alternatives are influenced by his directives
01:19.57DARKGuy:P
01:20.38DARKGuyAnd my boss likes my work. As far as we've spoken when he has to denote my work he has said that I've been done great up until that time
01:20.46DARKGuyand he once asked me for help on some coding problem he had
01:20.48DARKGuyso I feel good ^_^.
01:20.49adamorjamesbut you probably know more about some stuff than he does and you may know that what he wants to use is bad.. what would you do?
01:21.26DARKGuyI would say it, as he knows he isn't god and knows everything so he's open to suggestions and alternatives and ideas, just like me
01:21.50DARKGuyin fact he used the idea in one of my codings last week :p
01:21.55adamorjameslol
01:22.06DARKGuyyeah
01:22.10DARKGuyhe's like a clone of me, but older o_O.
01:22.11adamorjamesDARKGuy: have you e-mailed KIAaze even once?
01:22.14DARKGuyno
01:22.15DARKGuy:(
01:22.17adamorjameswtf
01:22.23adamorjamese-mail him
01:22.24DARKGuyI'm going to x)
01:22.26DARKGuyyeah
01:22.58adamorjamesoh and DARKGuy
01:23.08adamorjamesJorge is still not responding
01:23.21adamorjames>':(
01:23.33adamorjames>:(
01:23.52adamorjamesI don't know what he could be so busy with.
01:25.09DARKGuyhuh
01:25.15DARKGuyk
01:25.22DARKGuywhat do you need exactly?
01:25.40adamorjamesDARKGuy: you think you can make that spritesheet tester soon? or add some code to the old iteam (rev 2007 12 25) that allows changing of characters?
01:25.58adamorjamesI like the last idea best
01:26.01adamorjameshaha
01:26.07adamorjamesbut prob more work
01:26.08DARKGuyhuh, old code won't compile in windows
01:26.14DARKGuynot at that state anyways
01:26.18adamorjamesDARKGuy: Linux
01:26.23DARKGuybuy me a HD =)
01:26.27adamorjames...
01:26.32DARKGuy:P
01:26.32adamorjamesuse VB
01:26.37adamorjamesvirtualbox
01:26.45DARKGuyyeah, and where do I get the GBs from?
01:26.47DARKGuy:P
01:26.54adamorjamesremove all those movies
01:27.04DARKGuylmao :(
01:27.04DARKGuyI could remove a game
01:27.07adamorjamesI don't keep movies on my HD
01:27.11DARKGuybut I'm like, 5 championships left to the end of GRID
01:27.17DARKGuyand I wanna finish it, installing it in a PITA
01:27.21adamorjamesxD
01:27.35DARKGuyI can certainly make a spritesheet tester
01:27.47DARKGuywith the new GP2D (which compiles on windows) it'll be easy
01:27.51adamorjamesright now?
01:28.01DARKGuyI'm eating dinner >_>
01:28.03DARKGuyand not right now
01:28.08DARKGuybut for this weekend, yeah
01:28.08adamorjamesok ok after dinner
01:28.10adamorjameslol
01:28.24DARKGuylol, maybe if I feel like it tonight =)
01:28.28DARKGuyelse, tomorrow
01:28.28adamorjameshow big is your HD?
01:28.34DARKGuy40Gb x2
01:28.37adamorjameshaha
01:28.50adamorjamesmy Linux partition is 58.93 GB
01:28.54DARKGuydamn you
01:29.00adamorjamesand I am using 29.03 GB
01:29.03adamorjamessee?
01:29.04DARKGuyxD
01:29.09DARKGuybut Linux is small :p
01:29.10adamorjamesyou can get rid of some bloat
01:29.12DARKGuymy HD is split in...
01:29.13adamorjameshaha
01:29.15DARKGuyI can, but I can't xD
01:29.47adamorjamesgames take up so much space
01:29.52DARKGuyC: has Windows, apps (including office, VS2008 + sql + etc), personal data, 2 movies and 2 apps downloaded. 10gb free I must leave around 4 free in case I need to burn a DVD
01:30.05adamorjames2 movies!?
01:30.10adamorjameshow big are those movies
01:30.12adamorjames>:(
01:30.29DARKGuyD: has games, 2 VB machines (XP SP3 (6Gb) + W2003 Server (6Gb) + snapshots of each ones) + data = 1Gb free.
01:30.33DARKGuy700Mb
01:30.36DARKGuy>_>;.
01:30.38adamorjamesburn the movies on to cds
01:30.45DARKGuyif I had CDs I would.
01:30.51DARKGuyI need to buy dvds xD.
01:31.07adamorjameswtf
01:31.15adamorjameswhy xp sp3 and w2003
01:31.23DARKGuyI need to simulate my work environment
01:31.28adamorjamesget rid of xp sp3
01:31.29DARKGuymy apps use active directory & sql
01:31.39adamorjamesmake it go poof
01:31.40DARKGuyI need XP SP3 because I need it as a client to connect to the w2003 server
01:31.45adamorjamessigh
01:31.51adamorjamesWindows is so flawed
01:31.53adamorjamessigh
01:32.14DARKGuyI can't connect my local user to the server because that would mean logging off, and logging off would mean closing the vbox server which would literally take the point off
01:32.33DARKGuyit's not flawed, you say so because I don't want to remove what works for me
01:33.04adamorjamesyou need a bigger HD
01:33.19DARKGuyand besides, even if I do Fast User Switching(tm), that would mean getting my PC into the domain and "converting" it to have the environment my work PC has, which I don't really want to. Both for privacy and usability
01:33.21adamorjamesthey are getting cheap y'know?
01:33.24DARKGuyyeah
01:33.41adamorjamesget like a 100 GB
01:33.43DARKGuyI just need to stop paying for my iphone (yay, today was the last part of the payment) and save up some more
01:34.01adamorjamesya
01:34.05adamorjameshmm
01:34.11adamorjamesI need to backup my art
01:34.21DARKGuyI would've bought a 160Gb one today, if it weren't because I had to pay the interwebz or else I won't have interwebz D:
01:34.35adamorjamesthinking about putting my art on to a usb stick
01:34.40DARKGuyAnd you guys would miss me, and I would miss you guys
01:34.40DARKGuy:'(
01:34.48adamorjamesso if my HD crashes I will still have my art
01:34.49DARKGuy.... kidding.
01:34.49DARKGuy:D.
01:34.53adamorjamesxD
01:34.57DARKGuyUSB stick? mmmmh
01:35.00DARKGuyI prefer external HDs.
01:35.10adamorjamesmy usb stick has 8 gb
01:35.12adamorjames*GB
01:35.17adamorjamesand I don't use it much
01:35.41adamorjamesand it is ALWAYS attached to my keychain
01:35.49adamorjamesso I won't lose it
01:36.01DARKGuy:p
01:36.11adamorjamesseems like a good idea no?
01:36.16DARKGuykinda
01:36.20DARKGuyif you lose the keys, you're doomed
01:36.21DARKGuy:D
01:36.29adamorjamesDARKGuy: what if I rar it?
01:36.38adamorjamesand password protect it
01:36.42adamorjameshaha
01:36.44DARKGuywho can't unrar a password-protected rar?
01:36.48DARKGuybesides
01:36.55DARKGuywhoever gets the pendrive would just format it and use it
01:37.01adamorjameshmm
01:37.07adamorjameswell DARKGuy
01:37.14adamorjamesit seems it's my only option
01:37.20adamorjamesI don't have anything else
01:37.22adamorjamesxD
01:37.28DARKGuystore it at home
01:37.30DARKGuywhat can happen?
01:37.33adamorjamesI don't think I'll rar it
01:37.49adamorjamesI will lose it at home
01:37.50adamorjamesxD
01:38.00adamorjamesI've never lost my keys
01:38.06DARKGuylol
01:38.08adamorjamesand I've had them since middle school
01:38.38adamorjameswhat are you eating btw?
01:38.51adamorjamesi ate like 30 mins ago
01:39.03DARKGuyuh
01:39.05DARKGuyrice with tuna
01:39.12adamorjames:S
01:39.20DARKGuywhat?
01:39.27adamorjamessounds bland
01:39.27DARKGuyoh I also ate two meat empanadas
01:39.32adamorjamesahhh
01:39.44DARKGuyand some leftover bread that was around
01:39.47DARKGuyand yes, it's bland, and plain
01:39.49DARKGuybut eh, it's cheap
01:40.19adamorjamesi've never had empanadas.. actually I may have had a desert one before
01:40.44adamorjameswith apples in it and cinnamon
01:40.49adamorjamesnot good
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01:41.08DARKGuyoh
01:41.09DARKGuythat's a pastel here
01:41.11DARKGuywell
01:41.15DARKGuyin Spanish
01:41.17DARKGuy:p
01:41.19adamorjamesno no it was an empanada
01:41.20DARKGuyin english it's pie
01:41.40adamorjamesxD
01:41.49adamorjamesnope
01:41.50DARKGuybut we don't say apple empanada
01:41.53adamorjameslol
01:41.59adamorjamesI know
01:42.02adamorjamesbut it was!
01:42.05DARKGuyit's apple pie here
01:42.06DARKGuylol
01:42.14adamorjamesit's apple pie here too
01:42.15adamorjamesbut
01:42.18DARKGuywtf
01:42.27adamorjamesempanadas have a certain shape and stuff
01:42.36DARKGuyyeah
01:42.44adamorjamesso it was an apple empanada
01:42.47adamorjamesxD
01:42.50DARKGuylol
01:43.34adamorjamesjust got through fixing Lini's walking animation a little
01:44.01adamorjamesstill not 100% sure it's perfect but it's good enough for me
01:44.09adamorjamesor so I think
01:44.16adamorjamesoh DARKGuy
01:44.26adamorjamesyou know what I did a week or so ago
01:44.41DARKGuy=
01:44.43DARKGuy?
01:44.44adamorjamesI accidentally upload pr0n to the iteam server
01:44.46adamorjamesxD
01:45.00DARKGuyWHAAT
01:45.07DARKGuywhy didn't you tell me!
01:45.07adamorjamesi didn't notice it until a couple days later
01:45.09adamorjameswell
01:45.17adamorjamesI thought I deleted it
01:45.21adamorjamesbut then I saw it
01:45.29adamorjamesand was like O___O
01:45.36adamorjamesand deleted it
01:45.48adamorjamesDARKGuy: it wasn't that great
01:46.00DARKGuy:(
01:46.01adamorjamesoh DARKGuy
01:46.05adamorjamesdid you hear?
01:46.05DARKGuy:(
01:46.08DARKGuy:(?
01:46.17adamorjamesI am going on a sexual abstinence
01:46.24DARKGuywtflol
01:46.28adamorjamesno fapping
01:46.33adamorjamestoday is day 3
01:46.39DARKGuyyou'll only last a week
01:46.50adamorjamesI will prove that I have self-control
01:47.03adamorjamesDARKGuy: I will be glad to prove you wrong
01:47.09DARKGuygood
01:47.17DARKGuythen I'll laugh at you at day 7 by showing you pr0n pics
01:47.20adamorjamesxD
01:47.25DARKGuy=D
01:47.29adamorjamesoh DARKGuy
01:47.36adamorjamesI am using an aircard
01:47.37adamorjames:O
01:47.43DARKGuyoh, yeah
01:47.45adamorjamesoh ya I told you
01:47.59DARKGuyyup
01:48.00DARKGuyxD
01:48.07adamorjamesI had to change the /etc/resolv thing or w/e
01:48.21adamorjamesbecause the nameserver was wrong
01:48.27adamorjamesand then it connected
01:48.33adamorjamesand I was so happy
01:48.48adamorjamesI am using opendns for the nameserver
01:49.21adamorjamesopendns.com
01:49.30DARKGuy:o
01:49.50DARKGuysee
01:49.57adamorjamesjust network talk you probably don't understand any of it
01:49.58DARKGuyin windows you would just use the card's software
01:49.59adamorjames:P
01:50.03adamorjameseh?
01:50.12DARKGuyI assume that card came with windows drivers, or has ?
01:50.19adamorjamesprobably
01:50.22adamorjamesbut
01:50.27adamorjamesthe linux kernel has the drivers
01:50.32adamorjames:D
01:50.53DARKGuyyeah, but maybe the windows drivers had an app that would autoconfigure everything itself
01:51.00DARKGuysome stuff in linux is just counter-intuitive :(
01:51.21adamorjamesso I only had to change the nameserver to a different IP address and type the wvdial configuartion stuff
01:52.02adamorjamesthe wvdial stuff just tells it what provider I am connecting to and such
01:52.11adamorjamesand it is the app I use
01:52.21adamorjamesyep
01:52.48adamorjamesDARKGuy: so, tomorrow is day 4
01:52.55adamorjames:O
01:53.11adamorjamesit takes a lot of control
01:53.31adamorjamesit's like trying to quit an addiction like smoking or something
01:53.36adamorjamesxD
02:03.12DARKGuylol
02:08.27adamorjamesDARKGuy: can you go 2 weeks?
02:08.28DARKGuyno
02:08.29DARKGuy^
02:08.32DARKGuy^^
02:08.38adamorjames:O
02:09.04adamorjamesI'll go at least 2 weeks
02:09.07adamorjames>:(
02:09.14adamorjamesjust to show you I'm strong-willed
02:09.18adamorjamesxD
02:10.06adamorjamesI may want to kill myself but either I do it or I die trying!
02:10.10adamorjamesxD
02:10.21adamorjames>:(
02:10.21DARKGuyyou'd die of abstinence
02:10.22DARKGuylol
02:10.30adamorjames>:*(
02:10.33adamorjames*tear*
02:10.43DARKGuy^^
02:10.53adamorjameshmm
02:11.03adamorjamessound isn't working
02:11.28adamorjamesgoing to check mpd and see if it's just Flash
02:11.53adamorjamesaww crap
02:11.56adamorjamesmpd is down
02:12.09adamorjamesit's because of the aircard
02:12.27adamorjamesDARKGuy: How am i suppose to have a localhost when I have an aircard?>
02:12.52adamorjamesfor some reason i don't have localhost
02:12.59DARKGuyadd it?
02:13.00DARKGuyI dunno
02:13.03adamorjameslol
02:13.05DARKGuylocalhost = 127.0.0.1
02:13.08DARKGuylocalhost = loopback
02:13.09DARKGuysame thing
02:13.19adamorjamesidk DARKGuy
02:13.29adamorjamesit works without the aircard
02:13.53adamorjamesit's strange because the aircard doesn't use a local network
02:14.03adamorjamesit goes directly to the ISP
02:14.08adamorjamesxD
02:14.16adamorjameshow to fix this...
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02:21.48DARKGuyadamorjames, what do you exactly need from jorge? I'm writing an email for him
02:22.19adamorjamesDARKGuy: let me list
02:22.31adamorjames*find the
02:24.01adamorjames1. Fidori with fedora (hat)
02:24.02adamorjames2. Grassy Mt. sky extended
02:24.02adamorjames3. Fin Land
02:24.09adamorjamesthat's all
02:24.15DARKGuyhuh
02:24.18DARKGuycan you extend please?
02:24.18DARKGuyxD
02:24.22adamorjamesnope
02:24.26DARKGuy>_>
02:24.28adamorjamesI don't have the 3d file
02:24.31adamorjamesor the app
02:24.38DARKGuyI don't understand "Fin Land" and "Grassy Mt. sky extended"
02:24.50adamorjamesGrassy Mt. level
02:25.01adamorjamesthe one with the green hills
02:25.10DARKGuyoh
02:25.13DARKGuy3D file or png
02:25.13DARKGuy?
02:25.31adamorjamesI think the source is 3d
02:25.35adamorjamesand he made it png
02:25.36DARKGuyyup
02:25.52DARKGuywhat's his other email? (pm)
02:25.59DARKGuyand what is "fin land" ?
02:26.05adamorjamesI need the png but I will GLADLY take both
02:26.09adamorjamesxD
02:26.18adamorjamesit's a new level
02:26.23adamorjameshehe
02:26.35adamorjamesseriously
02:26.39DARKGuyo_O
02:26.40DARKGuybut he made it ?
02:26.43adamorjamesthat is the only thing he has to make
02:26.49adamorjamesthat one level
02:26.53DARKGuyuh
02:26.59adamorjamesthe other two things he has to find
02:27.00DARKGuyif he's busy I wouldn't ask him for a new level
02:27.02adamorjamesxD
02:27.03DARKGuywe aren't programming iteam anyways
02:27.07DARKGuyso it'll be kinda useless
02:27.14adamorjamesno it won't
02:27.18adamorjamesit's for the site baka
02:27.25adamorjamesthe theme
02:27.27DARKGuyuh, okay
02:27.33adamorjamesit's so simple
02:27.46adamorjamesjust like 3 layer.. sky clouds and ground
02:27.46DARKGuybut please, if he doesn't make the level in time just release the site with whatever other theme
02:27.49DARKGuyI don't care, k?
02:27.49DARKGuylol
02:27.52adamorjamesxD
02:27.57DARKGuyif it's so simple why don't you do it?
02:28.02adamorjameshaha
02:28.02DARKGuyit's so simple I could even do it, right?
02:28.03DARKGuy<.<
02:28.07DARKGuyI mean
02:28.07DARKGuy:p
02:28.09adamorjamesnope
02:28.10adamorjamesyou sux at art
02:28.15adamorjameswell
02:28.15DARKGuythen it isn't simple and it takes work
02:28.19adamorjamesyou are ok at art
02:28.22DARKGuyyou gotta take that into account too
02:28.22adamorjamesbut not like me
02:28.23DARKGuylol thanks
02:28.25adamorjameshahaha
02:28.26DARKGuy:(
02:28.55adamorjames~ilove DARKGuy
02:29.02adamorjamespokes ibot
02:29.05adamorjamesslaps ibot
02:29.07adamorjames>:(
02:29.07DARKGuylol ibot fail
02:29.28adamorjames~ilove
02:29.29ibotACTION casts +300 iteam love to all <3 *~
02:29.36adamorjameshaha
02:29.47adamorjameslooks just like chi
02:29.49adamorjamesxD
02:30.16adamorjamesDARKGuy: if it comes down to it I may have to make the level
02:30.23adamorjamesbut I hope it doesn't
02:30.25adamorjamesxD
02:31.43adamorjamesDARKGuy
02:31.51adamorjamesI am using kernel 2.6.29
02:31.54adamorjamesand
02:32.11adamorjamesthere is two annoying but useful things I have encountered with it
02:32.33adamorjames1.) No more zapping by default (ctrl alt backspace)
02:33.20DARKGuy:(
02:33.34adamorjames2.) Headphone sound volume control (it is muted by default!!! I need to change it...)
02:33.48adamorjamesfor alsamixer
02:34.05DARKGuylulz
02:34.39adamorjamesit's nice that I can change headphone volume (if a bit useless) but serious it is annoying me that is muted by default
02:34.55adamorjamesit makes sense but GRAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
02:35.31adamorjamesDARKGuy: I guess they added driver stuff to allow me to adjust headphone volume
02:35.39DARKGuy:P
02:35.52adamorjamesI haven't noticed anything else
02:35.58DARKGuyhey what's jorge's other mail ?
02:36.14adamorjamesDARKGuy: http://www.imeem.com/boysxt20/music/_O0NUHLB/atc-around-the-world-la-la-la-la-la/?rel=1
02:36.41DARKGuygood song :p
02:36.46adamorjamesjorgerosadesign at gmail dor commmmm
02:36.49adamorjames*dot
02:38.03DARKGuylol
02:38.40adamorjamesoh one more thing.. battery status seems different.. seems a little off.. could be a gnome update who knows
02:38.55adamorjamesI think I am using 2.26
02:39.02adamorjamesfor gnome
02:39.13adamorjamesbut I'm not using gnome
02:39.17adamorjamesjust some gnome apps
02:39.20adamorjameshaha
02:39.35adamorjamesI'm addicted to openbox
02:40.01adamorjamesit stays out of the way and lets me do what I have to do
02:40.13adamorjamesminimal ftw!
02:40.50adamorjamesDARKGuy: I think I will need to fix Susi's animation a bit
02:40.53DARKGuywell I sent him an email
02:40.58adamorjameshis hand goes back too far
02:41.07adamorjamesor too fast
02:41.13DARKGuyand you need to make heads more bouncy
02:41.14DARKGuyimo
02:41.20adamorjameslol
02:41.29DARKGuymaybe :p
02:41.42adamorjamesDARKGuy: maaaaybe
02:41.54adamorjamesI think it would look odd in the game when you stop
02:41.55DARKGuywell they're not static if you look closely
02:42.16adamorjamesbe like all squished when you stop in the game
02:42.17adamorjamesxD
02:42.32DARKGuymake an in-between frame
02:42.36adamorjamesya
02:42.43DARKGuy:P
02:42.43adamorjamesor DARKGuy
02:43.11adamorjamesmake the animation only stop after it has gone all the way through both sheets back to frame 1
02:43.44DARKGuyit'd look a bit weird
02:43.45adamorjamesbut ya
02:43.57adamorjameslol
02:44.02adamorjamesI made them move a little
02:44.04adamorjamesxD
02:44.16adamorjamesyou are a pretty close observer DG
02:45.26adamorjamesDARKGuy: I think most other animations will be easier except for maybe the disintegrating one
02:45.36JudoHARD GAY
02:45.45DARKGuylol adamorjames
02:45.46DARKGuylol Judo
02:45.49DARKGuyHard gay ftw
02:47.48adamorjamesDARKGuy: it's annoying how Jorge has all of the source artwork... I can't do anything! gah.. all I have is the character stuff.. he has the iteam santa claus svg... the missle svg...
02:48.17DARKGuyI know
02:48.18adamorjamesthe rock svg, the banana svg...
02:48.24DARKGuybut he was the only artist back then :p
02:48.42DARKGuyof I think I have some high-res png of those
02:48.42adamorjamesI am only asking for  3 things >.>
02:48.49adamorjamesxD
02:49.05adamorjamesyea I didn't know about SVG back then
02:49.19adamorjamesI have high res of the banana and rock and dynamite
02:49.25adamorjameseveryone does
02:49.33adamorjameswell I knew about SVG
02:49.45adamorjamesbut I didn't know how to use Inkscape well
02:50.12adamorjamesomg I'm still listening to lalalala
02:50.47adamorjamesok it's closed
02:52.07adamorjamesDARKGuy: why do you have so many avatars?
02:52.12adamorjamesyou should use one for all sites
02:52.17adamorjameslike I do
02:52.19DARKGuymakes me unfindable
02:52.22DARKGuyI'm paranoid
02:52.41adamorjamessomeday I'll make a new avatar
02:53.03DARKGuyadamorjames, hey, any email I can forward items SVG to you ?
02:53.04adamorjamesfunny how I made that one I have in to SVG
02:53.12adamorjamesit was png
02:53.29adamorjamesya
02:53.54adamorjamesuse the e-mail you have
02:54.34DARKGuyuh
02:54.44DARKGuythe yourname at gmail ?
02:55.14adamorjamesyes
02:55.47DARKGuysent
02:56.42adamorjames:O
02:57.06adamorjamesthink I may have those
02:57.08adamorjamesxD
02:57.11adamorjameswill check
02:58.48adamorjames"It's a little chilly out, wear a sweater." "HEY! You're my mother not my thermometer! *evil eye squinting*" xD
02:59.03DARKGuylol
02:59.45adamorjamesah I don't have those svgs
02:59.53adamorjameswell
02:59.58adamorjamesI have the last one
03:00.04adamorjamesbut not the weapons
03:01.11adamorjamesargh DARKGuy
03:01.58Judofooooooooooooooooooooooooo
03:02.17adamorjamesif I knew you had the bomb svg I could have used that for the svg logo I made that almost looks exactly like the old one (which I didn't have an SVG for) except the bomb is lighter
03:03.33adamorjamesI made the new logo a long time ago because Jorge never gave me the original logo SVG...
03:03.40adamorjames>.>
03:03.42DARKGuyu.u
03:03.49DARKGuyit happens
03:03.53adamorjameshe's always busy
03:03.55DARKGuynow, brb
03:03.55adamorjames>.>
03:03.57DARKGuyhe is
03:03.58DARKGuylike me
03:03.59adamorjamescya
03:04.00DARKGuybut oh well
03:04.04adamorjamesyou are less busy
03:04.05DARKGuyI gotta test some stuff
03:04.06DARKGuyya, brb
03:04.08adamorjamesa lot less
03:04.12DARKGuysometimes xD
03:04.17adamorjamesmost of the time
03:04.22DARKGuy:P
03:04.26DARKGuygood to know
03:04.26DARKGuyXD.
03:04.28adamorjameshe hasn't talked to me in 2 weeks
03:04.29DARKGuyanyways, brb
03:04.32adamorjamescya
03:12.24antiyou:P
03:16.03adamorjamesantiyou
03:17.14antiyou?
03:24.15adamorjameswhat are you doing?
03:27.01adamorjamesantiyou!
03:27.08antiyounothing you?
03:27.31adamorjamestrying to do other stuff to stop from being bored
03:28.17theY4KmanPOTATO SECKS
03:28.43adamorjamesantiyou: translate
03:31.22adamorjamesTRANSLATE!
03:31.25adamorjamesslaps antiyou
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03:45.54theY4KmanFucking XChat
03:58.11adamorjamesyour mom
03:58.20adamorjamesoh and g'night
04:11.20theY4Kmanoh and RAEP
09:04.44Azzkikroh hi
12:18.11adamorjamesmorning
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12:26.53adamorjamesKIAaze!
12:27.03KIAazehello :)
12:27.15adamorjamesDG has been looking for you
12:27.17KIAazeI like the new animations.
12:27.21adamorjamesthanks
12:27.23adamorjames:P
12:27.33KIAazeI know, he wrote me an email and I already answered him. ;_)
12:27.42adamorjamesah
12:27.52KIAazedo you have static images of the new chars too?
12:27.58adamorjamesyes
12:28.06adamorjamesthe spritesheets are in the forum
12:29.15adamorjamesor what do you mean?
12:29.37KIAazeI mean something like susi.png
12:29.41KIAazeonly one image
12:29.51KIAazeit's easier to use for non-animation tests
12:29.53adamorjameswell
12:30.09adamorjamesthe background in the spritesheets is transparent
12:30.12adamorjamesso
12:30.17KIAazeof course I can get it from the spritesheet... ^^
12:30.20adamorjamesit shouldn't be hard to cut one out
12:30.23adamorjamesxD
12:30.35adamorjamesjust draw a rectangle and poof
12:30.38adamorjamesxD
12:31.32adamorjamesI guess i'll make some single sprites too
12:31.40adamorjames>.>
12:31.59adamorjamesI actually already have single sprites
12:32.18adamorjamesbecause when I make a gif I have to do it that way
12:32.58adamorjamesI'll upload single sprites KIAaze
12:33.16adamorjamesthe first frame of each
12:33.25KIAazeIok, thx :)
12:33.29KIAazeok*
12:34.51adamorjamesI'll put them in a zip
12:34.56adamorjameseasier for you
12:34.59adamorjames:P
12:35.11KIAazeeasiest for me is svn trunk :p
12:35.26adamorjameshaha
12:35.34adamorjamesI don't have access to svn
12:36.18KIAazebtw, I still had a pb with comicget: the onemanga URLs aren't always incremental
12:36.49KIAazeI found a python script on the net which almost worked but downloaded some pages into the wrong dirs
12:38.02KIAazehttp://files.mrofiq.com/svn/scripts/onemanga.py
12:43.56adamorjamesahh crap... I don't have time to do the char thing right now
12:44.50adamorjamesI'll do it when I get back in 5 hours
12:44.53adamorjameslol
12:44.58adamorjamescya
12:52.40adamorjamesoh and when I get back, what size do you want the sprites in? just the normal 64x64?
12:57.41adamorjamesI'll put the two I have up
13:19.57KIAazeyes, 64x64
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18:39.40adamorjamesback
18:43.25Judohttp://kotaku.com/5183249/final-fantasy-vii-advent-children-blu+ray-comes-stateside
18:43.50Judohttp://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-VII-Children-Blu-ray/dp/B001YYQ9SS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1239907418&sr=8-3
18:43.52Judoomgomgomg
18:46.44adamorjameslol
18:46.59adamorjamesKIAaze: I'm about to upload the three other sprites
18:47.09KIAazeok
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18:54.24adamorjamesdone
18:54.27adamorjamesKIAaze: done
18:55.15adamorjamesKIAaze: those aren't really the standing up sprites tho
18:55.24KIAazeok, thx. I'll play around with them in my branch soon. :D
18:55.28adamorjamesthose are the first frame of the walking sprites
18:55.32adamorjames*frames
18:55.32KIAazedoesn't matter
18:55.35adamorjamesok
18:55.51adamorjamesKIAaze: do some animation test too!
18:55.53adamorjamesxD
18:56.16adamorjamesI want to try an animation test out so make one!
18:56.17adamorjamesxD
18:56.29KIAazeyes, I plan to have pixel perfect collisions with animated/scaled/rotated sprites! xD
18:56.46adamorjamesnice
18:56.51adamorjamesthe spritesheets are there
18:56.54adamorjameshaha
18:57.02adamorjamesfun
18:57.06KIAazethis is all not mandatory to have a working iteam game, but it would be nice for the engine. :)
19:08.22TheMaverick`wishes to not his dislike for his Data Analysis class :-S
19:08.26TheMaverick`note*
19:09.35adamorjameslol
19:10.02adamorjamesKIAaze: DG said you had to fix a bug
19:10.12KIAaze?
19:10.19KIAazewhere?what?
19:21.48adamorjames"Apr 07 21:01:33 <DARKGuy>and KIAaze was working on getting a routine to make a polygon out of a sprite image"
19:22.01adamorjamesKIAaze: did you finish that yet?
19:22.48adamorjamesoh and Judo
19:22.49adamorjames"Apr 07 21:01:15 <DARKGuy>as far as I could see Judo's code worked but it had some bug I don't know if he solved already or not"
19:23.07adamorjames"Apr 07 21:02:01 <DARKGuy>so, until they fix those bugs and say that it works, I don't think this will progress"
19:23.13KIAazeyes
19:23.33KIAazeI posted on the forums
19:23.37adamorjamesoh
19:23.45adamorjamesso then the only thing left is
19:23.47adamorjamesJudo
19:23.52adamorjameslooks at Judo!
19:23.57adamorjamesO_O
19:24.07KIAazehttp://iteamgame.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=19&p=200#p200
19:25.13KIAazethe triangulation only works for counter-clockwise polys btw
19:26.02adamorjameso_O
19:26.14adamorjamesKIAaze: won't that require a fast computer?
19:26.45KIAazeit runs on my more than 5 year old PC
19:26.51adamorjamesxD
19:26.56KIAazebut it is relativeley slow indeed
19:27.25KIAazethat's why we need another function which creates a set of big convex polygons instead of triangles only
19:27.32adamorjamesso KIAaze
19:27.44KIAaze(or we use a simple convex hull or bounding box)
19:27.56adamorjameswill polygonal collision work with animated sprites?
19:28.07adamorjamesor does it need to be improved?
19:28.09KIAazeyes, I think it's possible. :)
19:28.19adamorjamesah
19:28.23adamorjamesyou should try it
19:28.29adamorjamesto make sure it works
19:28.50adamorjamessee how fast or slow it is
19:28.51KIAazethe main pb is changing the shape in chipmunk
19:28.59adamorjamesah
19:29.07KIAazethis might be slow
19:29.08adamorjamesso that is still a bug
19:29.17adamorjamesahhh
19:29.22adamorjamesnot good
19:29.35KIAazewe would have to remove the shape from the universe and replace it with the new one
19:29.52KIAazeso if there are lots of animated sprites, it's not good :(
19:30.24adamorjamesouch
19:30.26KIAazeother more complex solution: Use sprites made of multiple body parts like in Wormux
19:30.45KIAazethis means bye bye spritesheets ^^\
19:30.57KIAazeand hello dismemberment
19:31.27adamorjamesisn't there a way to load the shapes beforehand?
19:31.55adamorjamesand use like a loading screen
19:35.12KIAazethe shapes are created when a GP2D_Chipmunk object is created, i.e. before the loop.
19:35.32KIAazethe problem is that they are then also put into the physics world
19:36.02KIAazewhen the sprite switches to the next texture, it should also switch shape.
19:36.08adamorjamesI don't see why we don't use bounding boxes
19:36.22adamorjamesmuch easier
19:36.36KIAazethis means removing the old from the physics world so it isn't used for collisions and replace it with the next
19:37.05adamorjameslook at this game's collisions http://www.30daygame.com/
19:37.15adamorjamesmuch simpler
19:37.32KIAazebounding boxes + pixel-perfect collsions work for non-scaled, non-rotated sprites
19:37.52KIAazeI don't know how to make it work for scaled/rotated sprites yet
19:37.59adamorjameswhy do we have to have pixel-perfect?
19:38.00KIAazebut I think it's doable.
19:38.45KIAazewell, walking on irregular terrain looks better with pixel-perfect collision
19:39.18adamorjamesbut it takes forever to make the code and uses more cpu
19:39.28KIAazeI would like to know what other worms-like games use though
19:39.48adamorjamesyou look at that site I showed you?
19:39.56TheMaverick`adamorjames: we're not running this on Pentiums :P
19:40.15adamorjamesTheMaverick`: I don't want my laptop seering hot
19:40.59KIAaze:)
19:41.00adamorjamesthe site http://www.30daygame.com/ uses two layer for terrain.. one for looks and the other to check
19:41.10KIAazethat's a good idea: smaller bounding boxes
19:41.28adamorjamesyep
19:41.42adamorjamesif we did that iteam would already be done
19:41.49adamorjamesseriously
19:41.59KIAazeyep, quite possible
19:42.04adamorjamesso
19:42.10adamorjamesKIAaze: I want you to talk to DG
19:42.20adamorjamesabout this stuff
19:42.20KIAazeand we could still use chipmunk physics with bounding boxes of course! :P
19:42.25adamorjamesyep
19:42.28adamorjamesMUCH EASIER!
19:42.32adamorjamesand faster
19:42.47adamorjamesI like it
19:43.07adamorjamesthe polygonal stuff could be used for more advanced games later on
19:43.28adamorjamesjust bounding boxes is what we need for iteam
19:43.46adamorjamesthey can be rotated and everything easily
19:44.01KIAazewhy don't you talk to DG about it?
19:44.06adamorjameslol
19:44.13adamorjamesyou are the coder
19:44.19KIAazeok ^^
19:44.21adamorjamesI am just the observer
19:44.23adamorjames:P
19:44.33KIAazeand the artist ;)
19:44.36adamorjamesya
19:44.51KIAazedid you manage to recontact jorgerosa?
19:44.55adamorjamesnope
19:45.05adamorjamesI may talk to DG but you NEED to talk to him
19:45.25adamorjamesif we both talk to him he will be more likely to accept
19:45.34adamorjamesyep..
19:45.52adamorjamesKIAaze: not sure what Jorge is doing
19:46.25KIAazemaybe he'll come back once we have a working game. :)
19:46.39adamorjamesKIAaze: we already have bounding box collision ya?
19:46.47KIAazeI think so.
19:46.50adamorjamesso we don't have to make it
19:46.52adamorjamesnice
19:46.57adamorjamesso we can start iteam
19:46.58KIAazeit's very easy to do anyway.
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19:47.01adamorjameshaha
19:47.04adamorjameswb antiyou
19:47.18antiyouty
19:47.18adamorjamesKIAaze: so we can start iteam
19:47.32KIAazeyes
19:47.38adamorjamesstill there was something Judo was suppose to do
19:47.46adamorjames...
19:47.46adamorjameshmmm
19:47.52adamorjamesnot sure what it was
19:48.08KIAazeI'll finish merging what's done into gp2d trunk and then I'll concentrate on iteam
19:48.17adamorjamesKIAaze: ok cool
19:48.20KIAazegp2d will evolve as needed as it was before
19:48.25adamorjamesyea
19:48.44adamorjameswe have pretty much everything ready to make iteam
19:48.57KIAazeI don't know how far the GUI is.
19:49.01adamorjamescept the spritesheets :P
19:49.20adamorjamesKIAaze: the GUI will use gp2d?
19:50.05KIAazeyes
19:50.11adamorjamescool
19:50.16KIAazeunless we use an existing GUI lib
19:50.23KIAazelike the xml based one
19:50.33KIAazecrazy ed or something like that
19:50.43adamorjamesI am going to make a forum topic about using just bounding box collisions
19:50.56adamorjamesyou should reply to it
19:50.58KIAazehttp://www.cegui.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
19:51.01KIAazethat one
19:51.27KIAazethe problem is that DG wants to keep the libs to a minimum
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19:56.14JudoWhy yes, there is something I'm supposed to do
19:58.58adamorjamesKIAaze: http://iteamgame.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=45
19:59.07adamorjamesJudo: What was it?
19:59.10adamorjames*is
20:00.16KIAazethe GUI?
20:03.11theY4KmanIt's a PAINFUL decision
20:03.36adamorjamestheY4Kman: let's hope not
20:03.41adamorjamesKIAaze?
20:04.51adamorjamesthen again I know you like pain theY4Kman
20:05.03adamorjamesmasochist
20:10.14KIAazei answered. :)
20:15.35KIAazeadamorjames, there is something non-coders like you could do too: Create a diagram of how the game works and how the menus are linked together.
20:15.47KIAazethis will help coding
20:16.19KIAazeI have no exact idea of game rules for example
20:25.11theY4KmanMooo
20:25.11theY4Kmanhttp://dustfilms.com/literalvideos
20:26.11adamorjamesKIAaze: sure
20:26.54JudotheY4Kman: What's so great about that website?
20:27.37JudoIt's amusing, I guess.
20:27.44theY4KmanOh, die.
20:28.22JudoI give it a 9/10 for having RHCP
20:28.34theY4Kmanlol
20:31.41Judohttp://narutocentral.com/manga.php?s=naruto&c=348&p=17 <--- sexually confused?
20:32.56theY4KmanNo Naruto!
20:39.08JudoTAKE YOUR PROTEIN PILLS AND PUT YOUR HELMET ON
23:19.49Judosomeone just asked me if I've found God, and...
23:19.52JudoI said "No."
23:28.25adamorjamesok?
23:29.53adamorjamessomeone just asked me if I'm an atheist, and...
23:29.54adamorjamesI said "No".
23:30.01adamorjamesomg omg am I cool now?
23:30.20JudoYeah, but no one does that on college campuses
23:31.04adamorjamesbout to watch the new Naruto episode
23:31.12adamorjamesyou seen it yet Judo?
23:31.34JudoWhich one?
23:31.42adamorjames105
23:31.44JudoOh, Shippuden 105 is out
23:31.52adamorjamescame out today yes
23:31.54adamorjameslol
23:32.56Judowhen will this filler be over, anyway?
23:33.25adamorjamesthe three tails is a filler eh?
23:33.54Judoyes and no
23:34.04Judoin the manga, tobi and his gay partner just find the lake
23:34.06Judono one else is there
23:34.26Judotobi seals it, complains, and then they go back to that place where they extract the spirits
23:34.42JudoI have no idea as to how the anime will handle it, though
23:34.44adamorjamesffs why the spoilers
23:34.49adamorjames...
23:34.49Judobut one way or another, we know akatsuki will get it
23:34.54JudoIT'S NOT A DAMN SPOILER
23:34.59adamorjamesyes it is
23:35.07Judowe already know they'll get all of the tailed beasts
23:35.13Judoexcept one
23:37.33Judoadamorjames, heard of Vampire Night?
23:37.54adamorjamesnope
23:38.24adamorjamesit seems with this sexual abstinence thing I have been less productive Judo
23:38.40adamorjamesI'm still going to go at least 2 weeks
23:38.45Judothat's not exactly abstinence
23:38.45adamorjames>:(
23:38.49adamorjameswell
23:39.05adamorjamesw/e you want to call it
23:39.42adamorjamesit definitely changes how I feel... for better or worse we'll see
23:40.08adamorjamesI haven't made any new animations since I started I think
23:40.09adamorjamesxD
23:40.12adamorjamessad sad
23:55.42Judoadamorjames, is dattebayo still subbing naruto?

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