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| 06:00.34 | gdane | hmm its strange htc x7510 hungs when i do too mach moves |
| 06:00.59 | gdane | i mean if i make apt-get update it works correctly, but it hangs on some minute |
| 06:01.09 | gdane | its randome thing |
| 06:01.44 | gdane | i thought its a bug of apt-get, but if i change shell`s strings too fast, its hangs too |
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| 08:35.28 | stybla | gdane: could be I/O wait (?) |
| 08:35.43 | stybla | gdane: have two ssh sessions and run # top; in one of them |
| 08:36.31 | gdane | ok |
| 08:39.39 | gdane | here is top http://pastebin.com/y2EHU5MC |
| 08:41.08 | stybla | watch it when it gets stuck. also, you're interested in information located in 'header' not just a list of processes. |
| 08:41.48 | gdane | this is info in stuck time |
| 08:42.48 | stybla | http://pastebin.com/rwJzBFBC |
| 08:43.23 | gdane | hmm its just my mynd, but will swap help me to fix it? |
| 08:43.50 | stybla | answer would be pure guess. |
| 08:44.23 | stybla | can you post the full output of # top; ? |
| 08:44.41 | gdane | its full |
| 08:44.48 | stybla | it is not. |
| 08:45.04 | gdane | do u need top with some keys? |
| 08:45.18 | stybla | ? |
| 08:45.27 | stybla | have you checked link I've posted? |
| 08:45.33 | gdane | yes |
| 08:45.56 | stybla | that's header of # top; I was talking about and which has useful information. |
| 08:46.35 | stybla | ok, what has # free; to say? |
| 08:47.17 | gdane | here is my top`s header |
| 08:47.21 | gdane | http://pastebin.com/YhmXYNeB |
| 08:47.49 | gdane | is it ok for ya, or u need something elese? |
| 08:48.17 | stybla | and this is when it is stuck? |
| 08:48.25 | gdane | yes |
| 08:49.39 | gdane | only reset will help me to restart htc |
| 08:49.55 | stybla | 'si' seems to be a bit high to me. perhaps some crappy user-space driver/application? |
| 08:50.11 | gdane | may be |
| 08:50.18 | stybla | and this happens via ssh, correct? |
| 08:50.20 | gdane | but i used only apt-get update |
| 08:50.26 | gdane | yes via ssh |
| 08:50.44 | gdane | i have no x working... may be only xdm |
| 08:51.52 | stybla | well, you can try to stop httpd and all crap you actually don't need, but I don't think it's caused by not having a swap. embedded devices don't have swap and they work. |
| 08:52.51 | stybla | you can try to run something lik # apt-get update >/dev/null 2>&1; and see if it helps. |
| 08:54.23 | gdane | the worst stuf that i see the same if i scroll faster |
| 08:54.37 | gdane | scroll shell command |
| 08:54.40 | gdane | s |
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| 08:55.48 | stybla | then don't do fast scroll :P |
| 08:55.54 | gdane | i can try to scroll and make a #top |
| 08:58.42 | stybla | hm? |
| 08:58.59 | stybla | try the command I've posted. |
| 08:59.35 | stybla | # apt-get update >/dev/null 2>&1; and see if it helps. |
| 09:00.50 | gdane | http://pastebin.com/Gv57YV1w |
| 09:00.54 | gdane | the same |
| 09:01.08 | gdane | its header of my #top |
| 09:01.18 | gdane | my comunicator stucked |
| 09:01.28 | stybla | and are you sure it never wakes up? |
| 09:01.32 | gdane | yes |
| 09:01.35 | stybla | I mean, have you let it be for some time? |
| 09:01.52 | gdane | yes |
| 09:01.58 | stybla | hm. |
| 09:02.06 | gdane | i even dont see pings from it |
| 09:02.28 | gdane | even buttons on that htc arent work |
| 09:03.45 | gdane | no pings and nmap said that no host up |
| 09:07.42 | stybla | I see. however, I have no idea how to debug it right now. |
| 09:08.02 | gdane | thats ok |
| 09:08.08 | stybla | what version of kernel do you have there? |
| 09:08.14 | gdane | 3.4.7 |
| 09:08.52 | stybla | I'd try to get it to 3.4.24 to begin with. well, search a bit and then update kernel and see if it helps. |
| 09:08.56 | stybla | ? |
| 09:09.09 | gdane | i found new rootfs |
| 09:09.18 | gdane | i thnik it can help me |
| 09:09.40 | gdane | ill use the same kernel but with other rootfs |
| 09:09.42 | stybla | you don't need new rootfs, just a newer kernel, btw/imo. although yes, many things can be wrong with it. |
| 09:09.45 | stybla | ok |
| 09:10.05 | stybla | sounds reasonable as well. |
| 09:10.11 | gdane | no, i mean that i fixed my old craps with new rootfs |
| 09:10.35 | gdane | remmember i had some problems with ttyAM0 |
| 09:10.50 | gdane | now i have no such problems |
| 09:11.28 | gdane | i just took new rootfs and mixed it with my old one + added my old configes |
| 09:11.33 | gdane | passwd + shadow |
| 09:11.40 | stybla | yes, but not everything can be solved like that ;) |
| 09:11.48 | gdane | i know |
| 09:12.10 | gdane | but this rootfs compiled with xserver and desktop |
| 09:12.20 | gdane | in any way i have backup |
| 09:17.19 | gdane | am i right that all difference between operation systems are different kernels + modules? |
| 09:17.36 | stybla | I don't understand the question. |
| 09:18.04 | gdane | ok let me explain... |
| 09:18.06 | stybla | and I almost think you got it backwards. the only thing they have in common is kernel ;) |
| 09:19.04 | gdane | i dont think that this two rootfs will work on the same kernel |
| 09:19.08 | gdane | or they will |
| 09:19.15 | gdane | ? |
| 09:19.51 | stybla | shrugs |
| 09:20.30 | stybla | try it and you'll see. but yes, even kernel has some requirements like certain version of udev, for example. so yeah, it's possible it won't work. |
| 09:20.33 | gdane | i mean that this rootfs did for arm based comunicators, but my rootfs did for old armv5 |
| 09:21.21 | stybla | I don't know what difference is between arm and armv5, so *shrug*. but yeah, you can't run binaries from arch X on arch Y. |
| 09:21.22 | gdane | ok ok, may be i am wrong - i am newbe at arm computers |
| 09:21.27 | stybla | I don't know, sorry. |
| 09:21.40 | stybla | well, then you're further than I'm! ;) |
| 09:22.15 | gdane | i asked this cos i need to understand what things i have to take from my old system |
| 09:22.53 | gdane | i mean ill take .configs, passwd and shadow... what else? |
| 09:23.06 | stybla | I don't think you can drop-in replace kernel in rootfs like that. you have to build image, don't you? |
| 09:23.55 | gdane | yes, but if u need something new from ur kernel - to switch on some module or something like this u will make a new kernel |
| 09:24.09 | gdane | but my kernel is ok |
| 09:24.36 | gdane | i mean i dont see fetel errors when i turn on the kernel |
| 09:25.05 | gdane | the guy who compiled it said that he has problems with sound |
| 09:25.17 | gdane | i think to fix it, but in future |
| 09:32.07 | stybla | I don't follow, but it's ok :) |
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| 15:00.58 | noobhands | Cotulla blyad |
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| 15:04.31 | Cotulla | u? |
| 15:04.34 | Cotulla | well |
| 15:04.39 | Cotulla | good to know |
| 15:04.41 | Cotulla | who-is-who |
| 15:04.56 | Cotulla | u know diff between 'blyad' and 'blyat' ? :P :D |
| 15:05.01 | Cotulla | I guess u no |
| 15:05.03 | Cotulla | hahaha |
| 15:05.08 | Cotulla | and u won't ever know |
| 15:05.10 | Cotulla | :D |
| 15:05.19 | stroughtonsmith | :P |
| 15:05.30 | Cotulla | lol |
| 15:14.09 | noobhands | nope |
| 15:14.15 | noobhands | suka |
| 15:14.34 | noobhands | i got new phone |
| 15:14.38 | noobhands | HTC Desire X |
| 15:14.40 | noobhands | :D |
| 15:26.29 | Cotulla | why |
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| 15:33.42 | noobhands | 100 of htem |
| 15:34.02 | noobhands | they need Android devices for some project i've been drafted into |
| 15:34.08 | noobhands | 100 low end, 100 mid range, 100 high |
| 15:35.12 | Cotulla | :O |
| 15:35.13 | Cotulla | joker? |
| 15:36.01 | noobhands | no |
| 15:41.15 | noobhands | HTC Desire X is the mid range device, we got it cheap too |
| 15:41.26 | noobhands | i asked for N4 for high end, but they can't get it - it's a retail thing only |
| 15:41.27 | noobhands | :( |
| 15:41.37 | noobhands | so i guess it will be either HTC One X or S3 |
| 15:46.08 | noobhands | http://pic.twitter.com/k5DESaR8 |
| 15:49.43 | Willd | noobhands: If you compare it to Desire HD, how does it handle? |
| 15:50.04 | noobhands | Willd, DHD vs DX? |
| 15:50.17 | Willd | Yeah |
| 15:50.28 | Willd | Mostly feeling-wise though |
| 15:50.40 | noobhands | it feels small, but it's 4" i think |
| 15:50.44 | noobhands | DHD = 4.3? |
| 15:50.45 | noobhands | like HD2 |
| 15:50.46 | Willd | Yeah |
| 15:50.53 | noobhands | but it's solid, made me jelly |
| 15:50.57 | noobhands | as i have a Samsung atm |
| 15:51.00 | Willd | Ah |
| 15:51.02 | Willd | Metal case? |
| 15:51.15 | noobhands | hmm, not metal from the feel |
| 15:51.25 | noobhands | but it's strong plastic |
| 15:51.47 | noobhands | i'm annoyed how this thing says BeatsAudio etc all over it |
| 15:51.57 | noobhands | i look in the box, and it's regular HTC headphones :| |
| 15:52.00 | Willd | Ersch |
| 15:52.08 | noobhands | i was hoping to take the headphones out of all the boxes eventually |
| 15:52.09 | Willd | Yeah, it's all about the speaker |
| 15:52.24 | Cotulla | did u try it with ur clock already fakker? ^^ |
| 15:52.45 | noobhands | my clock? |
| 15:54.36 | noobhands | all i did was unlock bootloader, make backup, install 3 apps, and back up again |
| 15:55.39 | Cotulla | clockpoo |
| 15:55.45 | noobhands | lol |
| 15:55.47 | Cotulla | :D |
| 15:56.00 | noobhands | clockpoo recovery mod |
| 15:56.01 | noobhands | :D |
| 15:56.20 | Cotulla | lol |
| 15:56.31 | Cotulla | I played BF1942 under that need few days |
| 15:56.35 | Cotulla | *nick |
| 15:58.11 | noobhands | haha |
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| 16:02.35 | Cotulla | ha |
| 16:02.37 | Cotulla | Konversation |
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| 16:20.49 | gauner1986 | hey guys |
| 16:21.05 | Cotulla | hey gauners |
| 16:21.12 | noobhands | hihi gauner1986 |
| 16:21.22 | Cotulla | lets troll him |
| 16:21.39 | Cotulla | sorry wrong window |
| 16:21.42 | gauner1986 | i'm on one month vacation |
| 16:21.46 | gauner1986 | *trolling back* |
| 16:21.51 | Cotulla | gauner1986 don't read my text |
| 16:22.11 | Cotulla | okay |
| 16:22.20 | Cotulla | how do u want to spent it ? vacation |
| 16:22.55 | gauner1986 | probably visit some friends and stuff |
| 16:23.02 | gauner1986 | visit parents |
| 16:23.21 | gauner1986 | nothing special |
| 16:23.37 | gauner1986 | just chill, like in good old student times |
| 16:42.03 | noobhands | suck some cocks |
| 16:42.04 | noobhands | yea |
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