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| 15:55.24 | zeusk_ | hi |
| 15:55.44 | helicopter88 | zeusk_: i rate your hi 2/10 |
| 15:55.59 | zeusk_ | why ? :o |
| 15:56.27 | helicopter88 | you could have done a much better "hi" |
| 15:56.53 | vladimir_putin | hi |
| 15:57.10 | vladimir_putin | can install android on my nuclear device ? |
| 15:57.29 | helicopter88 | now this is a nice hi |
| 15:57.34 | zeusk_ | :) |
| 16:01.33 | jonpry | in soviet russia android installs user |
| 16:07.53 | zeusk_ | so does that mean i can have vladimir putin on my hd2 ? |
| 16:08.11 | helicopter88 | yes |
| 16:09.10 | jonpry | zeusk, did you exer fix the mmu problem? |
| 16:09.15 | zeusk_ | i rate that (2^32 - 1) |
| 16:09.45 | jonpry | is that -1 ? |
| 16:09.58 | zeusk_ | nope, i shifted to an rtos, will need cotulla for that |
| 16:10.01 | zeusk_ | yep |
| 16:10.38 | Cotulla | lol wtf guys wtf . . . . wtf |
| 16:10.41 | jonpry | i'm going to try and port 3.4 to omap4 |
| 16:10.48 | zeusk_ | marc1706 had a try at that, though we both still dunno what's wrong.. |
| 16:11.01 | helicopter88 | zeusk_: 4294967295 ? |
| 16:11.20 | zeusk_ | yes helicopter, but i rate your bit maths 1/10 |
| 16:11.31 | helicopter88 | zeusk: i did 2^32 - 1 |
| 16:12.05 | zeusk_ | oh, then i rate my telepathy power 1/10 |
| 16:12.27 | Cotulla | not odd right |
| 16:12.51 | helicopter88 | jonpry: fastboot flash system vladimir_putin |
| 16:13.06 | helicopter88 | duh,it was for zeusk_ |
| 16:13.28 | zeusk_ | error: vladimir_putin not found.. guess i need to be in russia |
| 16:14.10 | jonpry | lol |
| 16:14.29 | Cotulla | troll time |
| 16:14.33 | Cotulla | for smb |
| 16:15.48 | zeusk_ | now i have to fit a system into 8k ram, challenge accepted |
| 16:16.01 | Cotulla | foo |
| 16:16.18 | helicopter88 | zeusk_: vladimir_putin is 6k |
| 16:16.40 | zeusk_ | noh helicopter, i rate your physics 0/10, he is 80kg |
| 16:17.04 | helicopter88 | do you think that 80kg can't fit in 8k of ram? |
| 16:17.18 | Cotulla | lol |
| 16:17.19 | Cotulla | :D |
| 16:17.20 | Cotulla | ;D: |
| 16:17.20 | Cotulla | D: |
| 16:17.21 | Cotulla | ;D |
| 16:17.23 | Cotulla | :D |
| 16:17.43 | zeusk_ | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Vladimir_Putin |
| 16:17.49 | zeusk_ | read it... |
| 16:19.22 | helicopter88 | zeusk_: i'll put him in 8k of ram |
| 16:21.11 | zeusk_ | helicopter88: you cannot :) http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/RAM |
| 16:22.07 | zeusk_ | I rate it 10/10 "Your computer randomly accesses software and eventually causes all sorts of errors due to over-stimulation from poorly labeled pornography." |
| 16:22.23 | helicopter88 | EMO RAM - Same as above, but stores errors in bulk, causing your computer superficial depression and wrist lacerations. |
| 16:22.55 | zeusk_ | :D |
| 16:23.08 | Cotulla | LOL |
| 16:23.10 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 16:23.15 | zeusk_ | Burst EDO DRAM (BEDORAM) - Same as above, but can cause 4 errors at once; designed for Windows 98. |
| 16:23.17 | zeusk_ | LOL |
| 16:23.27 | helicopter88 | Rambus DRAM (RDRAM) - Very expensive RAM that is specially designed to give you more errors when you need them the least. |
| 16:24.20 | zeusk_ | evil microsoft On the 22nd February, 2008, the fourth film in the Rambo series, RAMbo, was released. The story follows Rambo as he attempts to rescue 900 billion dollars worth of RAM from evil, sociopathic, sardonic Russian mercenaries, and return the RAM to its rightful owner, Microsoft. |
| 16:24.44 | zeusk_ | is that russian you cotulla ? 900 billion dollars of ram :o |
| 16:25.09 | Cotulla | what is ram here?> |
| 16:26.03 | zeusk_ | Random Access(crash) memory |
| 16:26.07 | zeusk_ | :D |
| 16:28.15 | Cotulla | nope |
| 16:30.58 | zeusk_ | ? |
| 16:31.56 | zeusk_ | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070124074542/uncyclopedia/images/f/fe/Homelessvader.JPG |
| 16:35.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: you'd better port fastboot to uboot |
| 16:35.35 | Cotulla | fastboot sucks |
| 16:35.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, DFU then |
| 16:35.52 | Cotulla | dunno never used it |
| 16:35.53 | zeusk_ | DFU ? |
| 16:36.10 | Cotulla | fastboot is extremely funnt |
| 16:36.12 | Cotulla | fastboot is extremely funny |
| 16:36.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk_: that's the standard for firmware update approved by the USB consortium |
| 16:36.18 | Cotulla | hm is it? |
| 16:36.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: DFU is |
| 16:36.25 | zeusk_ | btw, helicopter88, must read this, they're teaching russian to linux :D http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Linux |
| 16:36.43 | Cotulla | but anyway it doesn't good for MAGLDR usage :( |
| 16:36.47 | zeusk_ | cotulla, fastboot is google product |
| 16:36.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, does anyone know how to cross-compile haskell code and link it without C library? anyone had that experience? |
| 16:37.18 | Cotulla | me no |
| 16:38.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, we can compile natively in an arm chroot. now need to figure out about linking and PIC code |
| 16:39.01 | helicopter88 | zeusk_: NYET |
| 16:39.10 | Cotulla | but it's more near to BDSM I think Alexx |
| 16:39.15 | Cotulla | be careful |
| 16:39.36 | zeusk_ | what is BDSM ? |
| 16:40.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: using C++ is more BDSM then |
| 16:40.04 | Cotulla | google it, but sure nobody is else near |
| 16:40.12 | Cotulla | *be sure |
| 16:41.03 | zeusk_ | holy mother of vladimir putin .. |
| 16:43.15 | Cotulla | yep hexual revolution happens |
| 16:43.27 | Cotulla | now we can edit java code in HEX |
| 16:47.59 | jonpry | i've booted fastboot from uboot before |
| 16:48.58 | zeusk_ | just use fastboot module in lk ? |
| 16:49.04 | jonpry | touchpad had this weird notion of chainboot |
| 16:49.24 | jonpry | like a 20 instruction prologue they would link in at entry |
| 16:49.41 | Cotulla | ? |
| 16:49.45 | jonpry | just checks that pc is at some value. if not it relocates itself to that address |
| 16:49.54 | jonpry | and enters |
| 16:50.01 | Cotulla | bad? |
| 16:50.10 | jonpry | it was cool imho |
| 16:50.49 | jonpry | mkuimage fastboot was essentially all it took |
| 16:51.41 | jonpry | so we could uboot fasboot and fastboot uboot |
| 16:52.21 | jonpry | and that was so much fun that we had to uboot moboot which had its own fastboot |
| 16:53.06 | zeusk_ | why can't just port fastboot to uboot ? |
| 16:53.33 | Cotulla | fastboot stupid . . . |
| 16:53.39 | zeusk_ | yep.. |
| 16:53.45 | Cotulla | I ported it to MAGLDR and understand that . . . |
| 16:53.51 | Cotulla | only stuitable for small files |
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| 16:55.46 | zeusk_ | i think they don't even work on it cuz most manufactuer implement their own RUU |
| 16:56.38 | Cotulla | but they did some crap |
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| 17:41.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: I want fastboot inside uboot, not a separate binary. to avoid porting mmc driver and to have a single bootloader. Will probably do it tomorrow at work because I have a pandaboard with uart there. Probably even jtag,but I'm afraid it uses the stupid TI header with 1.8V |
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| 18:05.44 | jonpry | 1.8v jtag is fun |
| 18:11.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, in addition to olimex usb-tiny and some noname jtag I have http://www.cutedigi.com/programmeremulator/openjtag-for-arm-usb-jtag.html .seems to support anything from 1.2V but need to figure out what's about openocd and gdb |
| 18:15.06 | jonpry | looks pretty nice |
| 18:15.36 | jonpry | i'm trying to get uart on the moto still |
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| 18:16.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: does moto allow unsigned kernels? |
| 18:17.06 | jonpry | kexec |
| 18:19.08 | phh | jonpry: aren't usb pins remuxable as uart ? |
| 18:19.24 | jonpry | i think so. but i need a cable |
| 18:38.48 | jonpry | phh are you going to do any droid3 hacking? |
| 18:39.20 | phh | this summer is going to be boring, so that sounds likely |
| 18:39.36 | phh | well not if i'm alone |
| 18:40.40 | jonpry | i'm trying |
| 18:41.25 | jonpry | but i haven't been able to get it off the ground |
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| 19:05.10 | phh | there could be an usb transceiver between omap and usb plug |
| 19:05.23 | phh | there is one on archos' omap4 devices at least |
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| 20:58.05 | jonpry | i suppose. there was no trouble with serial on other motor omap4 devices though |
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| 21:14.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | hmm. i've applied the patch for android bootimage to uboot, the images without ramdisk seem to load. need to figure out the initrd issue and push a kernel patch to cm. probably will be able to boot unmodified cm9 kernel one day |
| 21:16.07 | Cotulla | and all that because no standards |
| 21:16.08 | Cotulla | :) |
| 21:16.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes. and because google first codes and then fights with the community to push their patches upstream instead of first discussing standards |
| 21:17.08 | Cotulla | uboot could include it also long time already |
| 21:17.16 | Cotulla | including android popularity |
| 21:17.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway uboot is such a mess of legacy code and ifdefs.. it is imho much worse than LK |
| 21:17.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | I guess it's time to write yet another bootloader. in haskell. |
| 21:17.45 | Cotulla | do it |
| 21:17.56 | Cotulla | I refactored a lot of code in MAGLDR today pfff |
| 21:18.07 | Cotulla | some code which was written by me 1.5 years ago looks awful now for me :D |
| 21:18.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | that's good. means you've learnt something new |
| 21:18.23 | Willd | Cotulla: How come you refactored? :) |
| 21:18.34 | Cotulla | yes. |
| 21:18.59 | Cotulla | there is big function (800 lines), need to refactor it now |
| 21:19.02 | Cotulla | :O |
| 21:19.36 | Cotulla | Willd, refactored == make code better |
| 21:20.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | refucktoring |
| 21:20.13 | Cotulla | LOLLOLO |
| 21:20.17 | Cotulla | that part is funny |
| 21:20.18 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.18 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.18 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.18 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.18 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.19 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.19 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.20 | Willd | Cotulla: Yeah, but why? Are you putting in minecraft or something now :D? |
| 21:20.20 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.20 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.29 | Cotulla | to make code better, stable and more clear |
| 21:20.34 | Cotulla | also reach new functionality |
| 21:20.48 | Willd | Are you going to release a new version? :p |
| 21:20.48 | jonpry | finally make work on rhod |
| 21:20.56 | Cotulla | yes . . . very close now |
| 21:20.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | camelcase and hungarian notation together. what could've been worse.. only spaces for indentation |
| 21:21.09 | Cotulla | Alex why? |
| 21:21.19 | Cotulla | I am using own notation actually |
| 21:21.28 | Cotulla | some parts comes from Hungarian one, yes |
| 21:21.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: because camelcase is unpleasant for eyes and.. well, one thing i hate hungarian notation and M$ code is that word/dword sizes differ across platforms |
| 21:22.24 | Cotulla | it's normal. for me both are same - big letters or '_' |
| 21:22.34 | Cotulla | no DWORD is always 32 bit |
| 21:22.39 | Cotulla | and WORD is 16 bits |
| 21:22.46 | Cotulla | while ARM word is 32 bits |
| 21:22.50 | Cotulla | and 16 bits is half word |
| 21:23.26 | Cotulla | actually Java coders like also to use big letters to separate words . . . |
| 21:23.49 | Cotulla | so no real advantage in linux style than that style |
| 21:24.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. Haskell and Ocaml actually force you to use some sort of CamelCase and for large module names it is indeed better than underscore |
| 21:24.56 | marc1706 | Cotulla: java is not really a good example for coding style :P |
| 21:25.07 | Cotulla | yes why not. it should be more personal |
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| 21:25.32 | Cotulla | so u code everything like my_foo_var? |
| 21:25.38 | Cotulla | Alexx |
| 21:25.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | marc1706: java is a good example of how to make programming not funny |
| 21:26.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: in C, yes. generally, depends on the general code style if it is not my project |
| 21:26.21 | Cotulla | okay |
| 21:26.38 | Cotulla | but god gave us a big letters? why not use them too? |
| 21:26.40 | Cotulla | :P |
| 21:27.21 | Cotulla | sometimes I am using combo style, to make terms separated |
| 21:27.31 | Cotulla | like that: USBFlasher_Fls_Handle_NAND_WM |
| 21:28.24 | marc1706 | regarding Java I'd like to quote this: "Saying Java is good because it works on all platforms is like saying anal sex is good because it works on all genders." |
| 21:28.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | speaking of using high-level languages like haskell for low-level programming I remember there was a project called dotNET micro |
| 21:28.35 | Cotulla | yes it's there |
| 21:29.26 | Cotulla | but there is no dynamic generation |
| 21:30.54 | Cotulla | :( |
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